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Jerious Norwood finally getting his chance? (1 Viewer)

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I didn't get a chance to see the game, but in looking at the game log, it looks to me like Norwood was built in the Falcons gameplan and got his yards throughout the game, not necessarily in mop-up duty for Turner. Then I saw this article in the AJC which seems to indicate that Norwood will continue to be a key part of the offense. Although on the shorter end of a committee situation, he seems to have a lot of trick type plays potentially, too. I've read a lot about Turner's big game, but do you think there's potential for two 1,000 yard rushers to come out of the backfield? Or should I slow my roll a bit remember they were playing the Lions...

“We anticipate Jerious to be a very integral part of our offense,” Falcons coach Mike Smith said. “We feel like we have to have two guys who can carry the load. Jerious and Michael created quite a tandem in terms of what they create for defensive coordinators.”

Full article:

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/f...us_norwood.html

Norwood earns his yards

By CARROLL ROGERS

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Tuesday, September 09, 2008

Flowery Branch — For three seasons as a Falcon now, Jerious Norwood has heard coaches declare they’ve got to find a way to get him on the field, keep him involved in the offense, utilize his speed.

If Sunday’s game against Detroit was any indication, this coaching staff won’t have to talk about it anymore. They’ll be doing it.

Norwood rushed for nearly 100 yards against the Lions, while just working into the flow of the game plan. And that was with Michael Turner breaking out for 220 yards on 22 carries.

While spelling Turner, Norwood had 14 carries for 93 yards and a touchdown. He also caught two passes for six yards, returned two kickoffs for 65 yards — and would have had another 20 yards had he not stepped out of bounds — and made two tackles on special teams.

That’s 164 total yards and 18 touches. Another two passes were thrown his way that fell incomplete.

“We anticipate Jerious to be a very integral part of our offense,” Falcons coach Mike Smith said. “We feel like we have to have two guys who can carry the load. Jerious and Michael created quite a tandem in terms of what they create for defensive coordinators.”

Smith pointed out that but for one illegal block in the back penalty in the third quarter, which negated a 7-yard run by Norwood, the Falcons would have had two 100-plus yard rushers in the game.

The 14 carries from scrimmage were a career high for Norwood. The 6.64 yards per carry were right there with his 6.2 career average.

It’s all good by Norwood.

“I didn’t figure I was going to get the ball that many times,” said Norwood, the former third-round pick out of Mississippi State. “So far things are going great, just got to keep it going forward. Sky’s the limit.”

The beauty of it to offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey was that his staff didn’t have to go out of their way to make it happen. It just did.

Norwood was in the rotation about every third or fourth play, depending on the situation and when Turner needed a rest. At times, on some possessions, it was every other play.

Norwood had carries in seven of the Falcons’ 11 offensive possessions.

“It was a good mix … without purposely forcing the ball on him and the issue of who’s getting the number of carries,” Mularkey said. “It just worked out for this game. I can’t say it’s going to do this every game, but this game it just seemed to flow real well.”

From the looks of things Sunday, Mularkey has found himself a pet project in Norwood.

He had Norwood line up at quarterback for one play in the third quarter — ala Darren McFadden at Arkansas — though the play was thwarted by a false start penalty.

He also had Norwood run what was designed to be a flea flicker, where he pitches back to quarterback Matt Ryan for a deep pass. Norwood made a wise decision though and kept it after a linebacker broke free toward Ryan on a blitz.

By not pitching to Ryan, Norwood saved a potential fumble, possibly even a defensive touchdown, and some bodily harm to Ryan. Not only that, Norwood turned it up field and into a 17-yard gain.

That’s how he’ll earn the trust of his coaches. Already, they are earning his trust.

“He understands he’s got a role here, knows we know his potential and what he’s capable of doing and trusts that we’re going to handle it the right way,” Mularkey said. “[sunday] was a good start. We’ll see where it goes from there.”

 
I don't think Atlanta's going to have that many carries to spread around in most games. He'll spell Turner, and occasionally line up wide, but that's it.

 
If asked the same thing about Turner he would respond the same. Turner was a beast and will be the workhorse in that offense. Norwood will contribute and get his carries but probably on par with what he's gotten historically. The problem is that you can't run 36 times for 320 yards against most teams so his contributions will vary more than Turner's will.

 
Personally I thought Norwood should have gotten the chance to start. But when they brought in Turner, I figured they'd do 50/50 or something close to that... but I think they had a decent mix on Sunday between the two. I don't see why they'll change it up... they make a pretty strong duo. If Ryan and the passing game can step it up a bit more, this could be a juggernaut in the making...

 
“It was a good mix … without purposely forcing the ball on him and the issue of who’s getting the number of carries,” Mularkey said. “It just worked out for this game. I can’t say it’s going to do this every game, but this game it just seemed to flow real well.”
There is the key line in the article. It always "flows real well" when you're winning. I can't see Norwood getting the work in a close game or when they're down. As a Norwood owner, I hope he does.
 
BuckeyeArt said:
“It was a good mix … without purposely forcing the ball on him and the issue of who’s getting the number of carries,” Mularkey said. “It just worked out for this game. I can’t say it’s going to do this every game, but this game it just seemed to flow real well.”
There is the key line in the article. It always "flows real well" when you're winning. I can't see Norwood getting the work in a close game or when they're down. As a Norwood owner, I hope he does.
I have both Turner and Norwood and sat Norwood last week in favor of LJ and R. Brown....I will probably be starting both of them along with LJ next week as our PPR league counts KR at 1 pt / 15 yds
 
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BuckeyeArt said:
“It was a good mix … without purposely forcing the ball on him and the issue of who’s getting the number of carries,” Mularkey said. “It just worked out for this game. I can’t say it’s going to do this every game, but this game it just seemed to flow real well.”
There is the key line in the article. It always "flows real well" when you're winning. I can't see Norwood getting the work in a close game or when they're down. As a Norwood owner, I hope he does.
As a Turner owner, I think the big question mark is what the mix will be when the Falcons are down big (which is supposed to happen frequently this year, but who knows). If there is a weak link in Turner's game, it is as a receiver.
 
I've always wondered why Norwood wasn't getting more of a role. He should've been the feature back when Dunn was getting most of the work. I realize I'm not the coach & they see these guys every day, but playing Dunn over Norwood is right up there with the stupidest things I've ever seen in the NFL. This cat can play.

Not sure how far they'll go with a rookie QB, but Turner/Norwood might be the best RB combo in the NFL (& they compliment each other perfectly). If I were Smith, I'd run the ball as much as possible. Maybe a 65/35 on the ground favoring Burner with Norwood being the receiving back. All in all, around a 55-60/40-45 split favoring Burner. The only thing holding Turner back from having a good FF season will be if ATL has to play from behind most of the time (thus, giving Norwood more touches).

 
Norwood did more than spell Turner. He had significant time on the field, several plays in succession, and not just plays for him to run the ball. He will play a larger role than in past years. Now, this team is better than people thought it was. Don't get me wrong, not calling for a division title here, but I think 6-7 wins rather than the 3 most are calling for. And the goal will be a run-oriented, ball control offense, all day, every day.

Turner is an every week starter, Norwood is a matchup flex player.

 
I brought this up a while ago here and the general consensus seemed to be that Turner would get an overwhelming share of the workload. I didn't see it then, and I still don't see it now. Norwood may not have what it takes to be a feature back, I never claimed that he did, but he is way too talented not to get at least 40% of the touches (carries and receptions) between the two of them (Norwood and Turner).

 
Who knows for sure? But I wouldn't take the coach's word. What coach ever says anything different? Can you imagine him saying, "Norwood? Nah, he'll only get a couple of carries a game; we really don't take him too seriously"

 
Hmm, I would take the coaches word a bit, at least the nuance of it. Until now it's always seemed to be "we've got to find a way to get Jerious the ball more" but now it seems a lot more committed to him.

What I see from the game log and these quotes isn't that Turner got the first 20 carries or whatever and Norwood got his in mop up time. I see Norwood spelling him throughout series. And Smith saying sometimes they'll be switching them up after each play.

With 93 yards in the first game, Norwood needs to average just over 60 yards in the remaining 15 games to get to 1,000. Now that we've seen how carries are being split, I don't think it's completely insane to think that ATL might be able to produce two 1,000 yard rushers. Okay, maybe slightly insane but certainly not outside of the realm of possibility. Add in his receiving skills vs. Turner, and I think it's worth talking about that Norwood could really sneak up some folks as a valuable play.

 
PatrickT said:
Norwood did more than spell Turner. He had significant time on the field, several plays in succession, and not just plays for him to run the ball. He will play a larger role than in past years. Now, this team is better than people thought it was. Don't get me wrong, not calling for a division title here, but I think 6-7 wins rather than the 3 most are calling for. And the goal will be a run-oriented, ball control offense, all day, every day.Turner is an every week starter, Norwood is a matchup flex player.
:rolleyes: As a Turner owner I snatched up Norwood off the WW this week, and I can see playing both of them when the matchup is right, but mainly I feel much better knowing my Handcuff can produce if needed.
 
Now that we've seen how carries are being split...
Norwood owner and I'd like to agree but I don't think we know—after one game—how the carries are being split. It's much too small a sample size and I don't think Atlanta's going to be jumping out to many more 21-0 leads...
 
Hmm, I would take the coaches word a bit, at least the nuance of it. Until now it's always seemed to be "we've got to find a way to get Jerious the ball more" but now it seems a lot more committed to him.What I see from the game log and these quotes isn't that Turner got the first 20 carries or whatever and Norwood got his in mop up time. I see Norwood spelling him throughout series. And Smith saying sometimes they'll be switching them up after each play.With 93 yards in the first game, Norwood needs to average just over 60 yards in the remaining 15 games to get to 1,000. Now that we've seen how carries are being split, I don't think it's completely insane to think that ATL might be able to produce two 1,000 yard rushers. Okay, maybe slightly insane but certainly not outside of the realm of possibility. Add in his receiving skills vs. Turner, and I think it's worth talking about that Norwood could really sneak up some folks as a valuable play.
I'm going to talk more about this in the RB thread tomorrow, but lets have a reality check here...I watched the game, not the boxscore in Vegas this weekend...I assure you Norwood will not be taking over or even nudging the carries to a 50/50 split at all this season. Are the Atlanta Falcons committed to running the football? YES!!! Will they gash the Bucs for 320 yds on 36 carries this weekend? NO!!! If they played Detroit every week at home, I would be on board for what some of you are suggesting.Turner was the highlight reel, 120+ yds and 2 TD in the 1st quarter...it stands to reason that when Norwood took the field he was going to do well too. I can see grabbing Norwood to back up Turner but I doubt Turner is going to have another 200+ yd rush day, and Norwood likely will have less carries when the Flacons aren't playing the Detroits of the world. It sound like you didn't watch the game Sake and are going on the box score...be careful, it can get you in trouble. DJax had 68 yds and a TD the other night...Eddie Royal had 9 catches for 140 and a TD plus runs...are they great plays in the coming weeks when Brandon Marshall returns? You see my point though, there are a lot of factors besides just the box scores.Good Luck
 
I'm going to talk more about this in the RB thread tomorrow, but lets have a reality check here...I watched the game, not the boxscore in Vegas this weekend...I assure you Norwood will not be taking over or even nudging the carries to a 50/50 split at all this season. Are the Atlanta Falcons committed to running the football? YES!!! Will they gash the Bucs for 320 yds on 36 carries this weekend? NO!!! If they played Detroit every week at home, I would be on board for what some of you are suggesting.Turner was the highlight reel, 120+ yds and 2 TD in the 1st quarter...it stands to reason that when Norwood took the field he was going to do well too. I can see grabbing Norwood to back up Turner but I doubt Turner is going to have another 200+ yd rush day, and Norwood likely will have less carries when the Flacons aren't playing the Detroits of the world.
Norwood is going to see playing time, without a doubt. He won't be putting up 100 yards each week, but he'll get 40-50, and has the chance to break a big play here and there. He's a flex option, that's it.
It sound like you didn't watch the game Sake and are going on the box score...be careful, it can get you in trouble. DJax had 68 yds and a TD the other night...Eddie Royal had 9 catches for 140 and a TD plus runs...are they great plays in the coming weeks when Brandon Marshall returns? You see my point though, there are a lot of factors besides just the box scores.
Royal yes... Jackson no.
 
I'm going to talk more about this in the RB thread tomorrow, but lets have a reality check here...I watched the game, not the boxscore in Vegas this weekend...I assure you Norwood will not be taking over or even nudging the carries to a 50/50 split at all this season. Are the Atlanta Falcons committed to running the football? YES!!! Will they gash the Bucs for 320 yds on 36 carries this weekend? NO!!! If they played Detroit every week at home, I would be on board for what some of you are suggesting.Turner was the highlight reel, 120+ yds and 2 TD in the 1st quarter...it stands to reason that when Norwood took the field he was going to do well too. I can see grabbing Norwood to back up Turner but I doubt Turner is going to have another 200+ yd rush day, and Norwood likely will have less carries when the Flacons aren't playing the Detroits of the world.
Norwood is going to see playing time, without a doubt. He won't be putting up 100 yards each week, but he'll get 40-50, and has the chance to break a big play here and there. He's a flex option, that's it.
It sound like you didn't watch the game Sake and are going on the box score...be careful, it can get you in trouble. DJax had 68 yds and a TD the other night...Eddie Royal had 9 catches for 140 and a TD plus runs...are they great plays in the coming weeks when Brandon Marshall returns? You see my point though, there are a lot of factors besides just the box scores.
Royal yes... Jackson no.
Hijack in progress: Switz, do you think Royal will catch 8 or 9 balls in another game the entire season? Don't you think that marshall will get 75% of the targets that were funneling thru Royal?
 
Now that we've seen how carries are being split...
Norwood owner and I'd like to agree but I don't think we know—after one game—how the carries are being split. It's much too small a sample size and I don't think Atlanta's going to be jumping out to many more 21-0 leads...
:goodposting: You can't conclude anything about the split in a lopsided game like this. If you need an example close to home, look at how Turner himself started in 2006 in the first two weeks. In those two games, he had 23 carries for 175 yards to LT's 50 carries for 202 yards. People were predicting that Turner was going to get a solid share of the carries and SD was going to have two fantasy starters at running back because SD's rushing offense was so good. But both of those games were blowouts by SD. At the end of the year, Turner ended up with only 80 total carries and LT had 348. Turner got 15% of SD's total carries that year.
 
It sound like you didn't watch the game Sake and are going on the box score...be careful, it can get you in trouble. DJax had 68 yds and a TD the other night...Eddie Royal had 9 catches for 140 and a TD plus runs...are they great plays in the coming weeks when Brandon Marshall returns? You see my point though, there are a lot of factors besides just the box scores.
Point taken. I guess this is what I'm trying to figure out. It would be one thing if I looked at the play-by-play and saw Turner do all his damage, and Norwood mop up, but that's not what I'm seeing there. But you're right, I didn't watch the game and need to be careful. But it still seems to me that if you're in a league with 3 RBs or flex options, Norwood certainly has a chance to make a big impact, especially in PPR. I know he's rostered in most leagues, just not sure how many people are ready to plug him into their lineup.
 
I'm going to talk more about this in the RB thread tomorrow, but lets have a reality check here...I watched the game, not the boxscore in Vegas this weekend...I assure you Norwood will not be taking over or even nudging the carries to a 50/50 split at all this season. Are the Atlanta Falcons committed to running the football? YES!!! Will they gash the Bucs for 320 yds on 36 carries this weekend? NO!!! If they played Detroit every week at home, I would be on board for what some of you are suggesting.Turner was the highlight reel, 120+ yds and 2 TD in the 1st quarter...it stands to reason that when Norwood took the field he was going to do well too. I can see grabbing Norwood to back up Turner but I doubt Turner is going to have another 200+ yd rush day, and Norwood likely will have less carries when the Flacons aren't playing the Detroits of the world.
Norwood is going to see playing time, without a doubt. He won't be putting up 100 yards each week, but he'll get 40-50, and has the chance to break a big play here and there. He's a flex option, that's it.
It sound like you didn't watch the game Sake and are going on the box score...be careful, it can get you in trouble. DJax had 68 yds and a TD the other night...Eddie Royal had 9 catches for 140 and a TD plus runs...are they great plays in the coming weeks when Brandon Marshall returns? You see my point though, there are a lot of factors besides just the box scores.
Royal yes... Jackson no.
Hijack in progress: Switz, do you think Royal will catch 8 or 9 balls in another game the entire season? Don't you think that marshall will get 75% of the targets that were funneling thru Royal?
Nah... Royal's routes were way too good for him not to get a ton of targets each week... maybe not 8 or 9 catches, but 6-7 each week. Marshall and Royal will start. Marshall will draw the double coverage. Royal will be the beneficiary. It was obvious in that game that Cutler had a lot of trust in Royal. The reason Marshall was so dominant is that Cutler didn't trust the other WRs (why should he have) IMO. Now there are two options in the offense. Notice how the TE targets appeared to go down a bit as well. Sheffler owners (myself included) will be disappointed this season.
 
switz said:
Ministry of Pain said:
switz said:
Ministry of Pain said:
I'm going to talk more about this in the RB thread tomorrow, but lets have a reality check here...I watched the game, not the boxscore in Vegas this weekend...I assure you Norwood will not be taking over or even nudging the carries to a 50/50 split at all this season. Are the Atlanta Falcons committed to running the football? YES!!! Will they gash the Bucs for 320 yds on 36 carries this weekend? NO!!! If they played Detroit every week at home, I would be on board for what some of you are suggesting.Turner was the highlight reel, 120+ yds and 2 TD in the 1st quarter...it stands to reason that when Norwood took the field he was going to do well too. I can see grabbing Norwood to back up Turner but I doubt Turner is going to have another 200+ yd rush day, and Norwood likely will have less carries when the Flacons aren't playing the Detroits of the world.
Norwood is going to see playing time, without a doubt. He won't be putting up 100 yards each week, but he'll get 40-50, and has the chance to break a big play here and there. He's a flex option, that's it.
Ministry of Pain said:
It sound like you didn't watch the game Sake and are going on the box score...be careful, it can get you in trouble. DJax had 68 yds and a TD the other night...Eddie Royal had 9 catches for 140 and a TD plus runs...are they great plays in the coming weeks when Brandon Marshall returns? You see my point though, there are a lot of factors besides just the box scores.
Royal yes... Jackson no.
Hijack in progress: Switz, do you think Royal will catch 8 or 9 balls in another game the entire season? Don't you think that marshall will get 75% of the targets that were funneling thru Royal?
Nah... Royal's routes were way too good for him not to get a ton of targets each week... maybe not 8 or 9 catches, but 6-7 each week. Marshall and Royal will start. Marshall will draw the double coverage. Royal will be the beneficiary. It was obvious in that game that Cutler had a lot of trust in Royal. The reason Marshall was so dominant is that Cutler didn't trust the other WRs (why should he have) IMO. Now there are two options in the offense. Notice how the TE targets appeared to go down a bit as well. Sheffler owners (myself included) will be disappointed this season.
So you have Royal set for 96-112 catches? Really? To borrow JB's line, can you unwrap that a little more?
 

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