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Jerious Norwood - Future Starter or Scatback? (1 Viewer)

How about Norwood's outlook for this year? Any chance he'll overtake Duckett on the depth chart?
Earlier in the week the ACJ reported that "The battle for the backup running back job between Norwood and TJ Duckett remains very tight."I am counting on Norwood more as a long term prospect though. Duckett will be used on the goal-line as that's all he's good for. I can't see Norwood sapping much of Dunn's playing time barring injury.Now next year, its easy to imagine Duckett in another city and Norwood being given the chance to full on compete with Dunn in training camp.
 
Another "Norwood is the future" blurb: link

For Duckett, he has to bounce back from a sub-par 2005 season and hold off rookie Jerious Norwood, who coaches feel will one day take over for Warrick Dunn as the starter. That was the same thing said about Duckett when he was drafted in the first round in 2002.
 
One more: Link

Mora wants to see whether Norwood, who was taken in the third round from Mississippi State, will deliver on the game-breaking potential he has shown in practice. While his blazing speed could make him a threat the Falcons need to compete in the NFC South and his cutback style is perfect for their system, Norwood is still settling in.

"I'm looking forward to it big-time," said Norwood, who will back up Warrick Dunn and T.J. Duckett in the offensive backfield and return kickoffs. "I'm still trying to learn how to be patient. I'm very impatient in the backfield. When I get the ball I just want to go fast, and that's not always best. I'm growing a little bit, but I still have a long way to go."
 
One more: Link

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"I'm looking forward to it big-time," said Norwood, who will back up Warrick Dunn and T.J. Duckett in the offensive backfield and return kickoffs. "I'm still trying to learn how to be patient. I'm very impatient in the backfield. When I get the ball I just want to go fast, and that's not always best. I'm growing a little bit, but I still have a long way to go."
Sounds like quotes from and about Willie Parker. Hopefully he can learn patience that FWP is still developing.
 
bump, Norwood is a playmaker
Nice to see that Vick might have a few weapons to actually pass to this year. :thumbup:TD Jerious Norwood, 34 Yd pass from Bryan Randall (Tony Yelk kick is good), 0:01. Drive: 5 plays, 72 yards in 2:56.
 
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He's built like and runs like a combination of skinny Marcus Allen and skinny OJ Simpson. Really, I cannot remember seeing someone "appear" like OJ in the open field the way Norwood does.
Both comparisons were made during this game. If you're an old fart like me, then you have to admit the moves on the TD were "Juice" - like.
 
He's built like and runs like a combination of skinny Marcus Allen and skinny OJ Simpson. Really, I cannot remember seeing someone "appear" like OJ in the open field the way Norwood does.
Both comparisons were made during this game. If you're an old fart like me, then you have to admit the moves on the TD were "Juice" - like.
:goodposting: I still think we need to see more to see if he can move between the tackles as well as he can move in space. But even if he can't, they'll still find ways to get him the ball.
 
I picked him up in the :e: dynasty league (first season dynasty) in round 14 and looking forward to seeing what he can do now and in the future :thumbup:

 
Was flipping through the channels this afternoon and got to one of the FOX sports channels and caught a rerun of the '04 Florida vs Miss State. It was the Norwood vs C Fason show. Norwood went for about 180 including the game winner. Was the first time I'd ever seen him. Wish he would have been drafted into someone else's division though. Got him and Bush to chase around now.

He looked impressive tonight, too.

 
ConstruxBoy said:
Chaos Commish said:
He's built like and runs like a combination of skinny Marcus Allen and skinny OJ Simpson. Really, I cannot remember seeing someone "appear" like OJ in the open field the way Norwood does.
Both comparisons were made during this game. If you're an old fart like me, then you have to admit the moves on the TD were "Juice" - like.
:goodposting: I still think we need to see more to see if he can move between the tackles as well as he can move in space. But even if he can't, they'll still find ways to get him the ball.
Dunn and Duckett also looked very good tonight. I have no expectations for Norwood this year.
 
I've been pimping Norwood since the draft.

I know it's preseason and all, but I feel like I just ran away with my 32 team rookie draft this year.

1.8 - Vince Young

1.13 - J. Norwood

1.21 - T. Scheffler (4 rec. 54 yds)

2.5 - Daniel Bullucks - (7 tkls 1 fum rec)

6.4 - Bruce Gradkowski - 11/13 104 yds 2 td!

:pattinghimselfontheback:

 
Well, that was great for those of us hoping to steal this guy.

Only the WHOLE FREAKIN' WORLD was watching that game tonight. :wall:

 
Well, that was great for those of us hoping to steal this guy.

Only the WHOLE FREAKIN' WORLD was watching that game tonight. :wall:
Unless you are expecting a Dunn injury, I don't see Norwood contributing a lot this year. Now NEXT year on the other hand...
 
Well, that was great for those of us hoping to steal this guy.

Only the WHOLE FREAKIN' WORLD was watching that game tonight. :wall:
Yeah, I've got him on quite a few dynasty/keeper leagues, but I have a few still to come and was hoping to tie him up late. I really like what I'm seeing though. He isn't going to be a punisher between the tackles but who cares. He has looked really good and I knew he had quickness. But, I was really impressed with his vision and patience as he allowed the blockers to get set up. The guy has the potential to have a great future.
 
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Norwood is now overrated.
Just curious where you would rank him amongst rookie RBs? If you think he's overrated for redraft, I can understand; but for dynasty, I think he's right where he should be.I don't see how he's not ranked after Bush, Maroney, Williams, White, Addai and Bell due to opportunity, fit for the offense and a very good showing in his first game. He's now a top ten rookie pick IMO and has a great chance to start next year.
 
Just curious where you would rank him amongst rookie RBs? I don't see how he's not ranked after Bush, Maroney, Williams, White, Addai and Bell due to opportunity, fit for the offense and a very good showing in his first game. He's now a top ten rookie pick IMO and has a great chance to start next year.
This is only the 2nd time I've seen Norwood, the 1st was the Senior Bowl where he really didn't show much. I moved him way up in my rookie rankings. I think you could arguably put him as high as 4th and he settles in around 6th for me now. Great debut.
 
Well, that was great for those of us hoping to steal this guy.

Only the WHOLE FREAKIN' WORLD was watching that game tonight. :wall:
Unless you are expecting a Dunn injury, I don't see Norwood contributing a lot this year. Now NEXT year on the other hand...
I think almost all of us in here are thinking 2007 and beyond, guy.
He went at #6 in one of my rookie drafts last weekend and no later than 8th in 2 others. Check the rookie draft thread, if you're lucky he'll last to #10 but that is rare.The news is already out unless you play in dynasty leagues with guppies.

 
just watched the game from last night, is it me or does Norwood have incredibly long legs? i think that's where the "runs upright" comes from.

 
just watched the game from last night, is it me or does Norwood have incredibly long legs? i think that's where the "runs upright" comes from.
Yes, he's got long legs and a short torso. Definitely doesn't look like a typical RB. This guy can fly, and he will make plays. But unless he puts on some good weight in the next couple of years, I fear that his owners will always be worrying about someone breaking him clean in half.
 
just watched the game from last night, is it me or does Norwood have incredibly long legs? i think that's where the "runs upright" comes from.
Yes, he's got long legs and a short torso. Definitely doesn't look like a typical RB. This guy can fly, and he will make plays. But unless he puts on some good weight in the next couple of years, I fear that his owners will always be worrying about someone breaking him clean in half.
This has kind of been my attitude on him all along. There's no doubt that he's a player, but he still looks like a WR playing RB. I view him as a career RBBC type. He could eventually be quite valuable in PPR leagues, but I don't see him joining the 300 carry club anytime soon.
 
There's a lot of speculation that if Duckett doesn't get hurt against Green Bay tonight, this could be his last game in a Falcons uniform. LINK I'll paste the text just in case you need to register.

Falcons consider Duckett trade

By STEVE WYCHE

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 08/19/06

Green Bay, Wis. — Tailback T.J. Duckett could be playing with the Falcons for the last time Saturday night. At least four teams have contacted Atlanta over the past few days about trading for the 2002 first-round pick, two people with knowledge of the situation confirmed.

The New York Jets are the only team that both sources would confirm, with recently demoted wide receiver Justin McCareins possibly coming to the Falcons for Duckett. Atlanta is in the market for a No. 3 wide receiver, and McCareins (6 feet 2, 215 pounds), a six-year veteran with 168 receptions and 15 touchdowns, could fit the need.

The Falcons also are looking for backup help at safety, defensive tackle and defensive end. Despite those needs, exchanging Duckett for a draft pick is a possibility.

The Falcons would not confirm any trade talks.

No trade involving Duckett is expected before Saturday's exhibition game against the Packers, which he is scheduled to start. Regular starter Warrick Dunn is being rested.

Duckett could play through the first quarter before turning things over to rookie Jerious Norwood, a speedster from Mississippi State. Since Norwood was drafted, he has inspired enough confidence for the team to engage in trade talks involving Duckett.

There is some apprehension among the Falcons coaching and personnel staffs about parting with Duckett, a four-year veteran (54 games, 552 carries, 2,175 yards), who provides a sense of security should Dunn, 31, get hurt. Norwood, though talented and a better fit in the Falcons' cutback running scheme than Duckett, is still relatively raw and is learning the system, coach Jim Mora has said.

Even so, with Duckett being in the final year of his contract, dealing him now would allow the Falcons to receive compensation instead of letting him walk away for nothing after the season.

Duckett has spent much of the summer deflecting trade speculation, which until now hit its crescendo on draft day after the Falcons' selected Norwood.

Some teams, one being the Pittsburgh Steelers, offered later-round picks, which the Falcons rejected.

After Duckett looked strong and rushedfor 59 yards on 10 carries in last week's exhibition-opening 26-23 victory over the New England Patriots, interest resurfaced.

Duckett insists he wants to remain with the Falcons and said he's going to try to have a breakout season, no matter what.

"I had a great offseason, we had a hard training camp, and I'm ready to make things happen," Duckett said Thursday.

Duckett was drafted 18th overall out of Michigan State in 2002, the same offseason the Falcons signed Dunn from Tampa Bay as a free agent.

The simultaneous pairing never allowed Duckett to emerge as a feature back, but he has earned team-wide respect for not complaining about playing time.

Duckett has been used primarily in short-yardage or change-of-pace situations and has rushed for 31 touchdowns in four seasons, 27 coming in the past three. Last season, however, he faltered down the stretch after suffering an ankle injury and averaged a career-low 3.1 yards per carry.

With Dunn nursing a sore hamstring over the final four games, Duckett's inability to provide much relief spawned trade speculation shortly after the season ended.
Anyone know the status of Dunn's contract? Could Norwood realistically start in '07? :popcorn:

 
As a Duckett owner in a Dynasty I will be following his play tonight. A trade (To the right situation) would certainly cause his value to skyrocket. I could definately use another starting RB.

 
Dunn's contract is supposedly cap friendly so my guess is he'll be the starter until his wheels fall off or Norwood overtakes him in a season or two. I think the reason why they were more than happy with trading Duckett was he was in the last year of his rookie contract, a FA next year, and Duckett has never thrilled the Falcons for what they gave up for him. Unfortunately, the Falcons got another guy, if I remember correctly, Lelie who is also in the last year of his contract, so he'll have to be resigned. I'm assuming that since they traded for him he'll be in the future plans of the club.

Another guy who I think is in the last year of his contract and is not wowing right now is Donte' Stallworth. There's been a mass exodus out of New Orelans this year so keep your ear to the ground on that one. Sean Payton is not afraid at all of booting guys out of town 1. because he gets a free pass for a year or two anyway and honestly, I'd rather finish 2-14 this year and pick at the beginning of the 2007 draft (where they'll pick Adrian Peterson and run a Wing - T with Bush, McCallister ;) :P :eek: :crazy: ) than go 8-8 like Al DAVIS is trying to do with a club that needs to be rebuilt badly. 2. Because he wants HIS guys (ala his mentor Parcells) to be on board with him. He made a statement he'd accomodate guys who wanted out. The Birds have made some very one sided (for the other team) trades so far this offseason.

One last thing, McCay is a bigtime character drafter and Blank is a bigtime character / community pe3rson. They absolutely LOVE Warrick Dunn because he is easily one of the greatest guys in the NFL. My money is on Dunn retiring a Falcon.

 
Dunn's contract is supposedly cap friendly so my guess is he'll be the starter until his wheels fall off or Norwood overtakes him in a season or two.
Dunn's contract
Salary History

2002 600000.00

2003 2000000.00

2004 2400000.00

2005 665000.00

2006 2700000.00

2007 3250000.00

2008 4000000.00
He'll be 33 when he's due to make $4M. I'm not sure that's cap-friendly. My guess is that he'll restructure, or he'll retire.

 
Dunn's contract is supposedly cap friendly so my guess is he'll be the starter until his wheels fall off or Norwood overtakes him in a season or two.
Dunn's contract
Salary History

2002 600000.00

2003 2000000.00

2004 2400000.00

2005 665000.00

2006 2700000.00

2007 3250000.00

2008 4000000.00
He'll be 33 when he's due to make $4M. I'm not sure that's cap-friendly. My guess is that he'll restructure, or he'll retire.
At least it's not a $14MIL payout like McNair.... those numbers aren't that outlandish, especially for a RB. Besides, there are two or three guys in my league that's drafting tomorrow that are heavily posting in this thread... catch my drift... ? Damn you! Didn't think anyone would post a contract. :doh: :P ;) :stirspot: :penalty: :blush: :fishy: :pokey: :fishing: Jedi mind trick, "This is not the running back you're looking for. Move along."

 
Dunn's contract is supposedly cap friendly so my guess is he'll be the starter until his wheels fall off or Norwood overtakes him in a season or two.
Dunn's contract
Salary History

2002 600000.00

2003 2000000.00

2004 2400000.00

2005 665000.00

2006 2700000.00

2007 3250000.00

2008 4000000.00
He'll be 33 when he's due to make $4M. I'm not sure that's cap-friendly. My guess is that he'll restructure, or he'll retire.
At least it's not a $14MIL payout like McNair.... those numbers aren't that outlandish, especially for a RB. Besides, there are two or three guys in my league that's drafting tomorrow that are heavily posting in this thread... catch my drift... ? Damn you! Didn't think anyone would post a contract. :doh: :P ;) :stirspot: :penalty: :blush: :fishy: :pokey: :fishing: Jedi mind trick, "This is not the running back you're looking for. Move along."
Shame on you. Serves you right for misleading the 8,000 people who aren't in your league and will read this thread.

;)

 
Dunn's contract is supposedly cap friendly so my guess is he'll be the starter until his wheels fall off or Norwood overtakes him in a season or two.
Dunn's contract
Salary History

2002 600000.00

2003 2000000.00

2004 2400000.00

2005 665000.00

2006 2700000.00

2007 3250000.00

2008 4000000.00
He'll be 33 when he's due to make $4M. I'm not sure that's cap-friendly. My guess is that he'll restructure, or he'll retire.
At least it's not a $14MIL payout like McNair.... those numbers aren't that outlandish, especially for a RB. Besides, there are two or three guys in my league that's drafting tomorrow that are heavily posting in this thread... catch my drift... ? Damn you! Didn't think anyone would post a contract. :doh: :P ;) :stirspot: :penalty: :blush: :fishy: :pokey: :fishing: Jedi mind trick, "This is not the running back you're looking for. Move along."
Shame on you. Serves you right for misleading the 8,000 people who aren't in your league and will read this thread.

;)
What's that saying, "Old age and treachery......"? :ph34r: :football: :D
 
I've been drinking the kool aid, and maybe I'm not fully awake right now, but.........a thought that popped into my head watching the first run in that highlight clip was Tatum Bell.

Help me get over it. Who has watched him - this preason, in practice as MSU, Pop Warner, anywhere - and seen him run through arm tackles, bounce of good shots, and fall forward when he does go down?

It won't take much. I'm ready to start drinking again. Just fill the glass.

 
I've been drinking the kool aid, and maybe I'm not fully awake right now, but.........a thought that popped into my head watching the first run in that highlight clip was Tatum Bell.

Help me get over it. Who has watched him - this preason, in practice as MSU, Pop Warner, anywhere - and seen him run through arm tackles, bounce of good shots, and fall forward when he does go down?

It won't take much. I'm ready to start drinking again. Just fill the glass.
agreed
 
Wow that play on 4th 1 at the 7 where Norwood gets stuffed, but blows through contact all the way down to the goal line was impressive.

 
I've been drinking the kool aid, and maybe I'm not fully awake right now, but.........a thought that popped into my head watching the first run in that highlight clip was Tatum Bell.Help me get over it. Who has watched him - this preason, in practice as MSU, Pop Warner, anywhere - and seen him run through arm tackles, bounce of good shots, and fall forward when he does go down?It won't take much. I'm ready to start drinking again. Just fill the glass.
The aforementioned 4th and 1 play should dispell any apparent likeness to Tatum Bell.
 
cobalt_27 said:
velho said:
I've been drinking the kool aid, and maybe I'm not fully awake right now, but.........a thought that popped into my head watching the first run in that highlight clip was Tatum Bell.Help me get over it. Who has watched him - this preason, in practice as MSU, Pop Warner, anywhere - and seen him run through arm tackles, bounce of good shots, and fall forward when he does go down?It won't take much. I'm ready to start drinking again. Just fill the glass.
The aforementioned 4th and 1 play should dispell any apparent likeness to Tatum Bell.
Agreed.Not many backs have the power, balance, and body control to do what he did on that play.Norwood > Tatum Bell.
 
cobalt_27 said:
velho said:
I've been drinking the kool aid, and maybe I'm not fully awake right now, but.........a thought that popped into my head watching the first run in that highlight clip was Tatum Bell.

Help me get over it. Who has watched him - this preason, in practice as MSU, Pop Warner, anywhere - and seen him run through arm tackles, bounce of good shots, and fall forward when he does go down?

It won't take much. I'm ready to start drinking again. Just fill the glass.
The aforementioned 4th and 1 play should dispell any apparent likeness to Tatum Bell.
Agreed.Not many backs have the power, balance, and body control to do what he did on that play.

Norwood > Tatum Bell.
He's a stud. I've watched him in the SEC, and for him to avg 5 ypc for such a hideous team (sorry MSU fans) is amazing. He single-handedly beat UF in '04 despite playing 1 on 11. Here's a vid of the clinching TD run in that game:
He would have gone absolutely freaking bonkers running at LSU or USC.

 
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Just went back and looked at my Fantasy Football Forecast magazine to see what they wrote about Norwood. Something in there makes me a little uneasy. His college coach at Mississippi State, Sylvester Croom, was asked about Norwood's pro prospects. Croom has been around many successful NFL players and offenses. You'd do well to listen when he talks. Here is what he says about Norwood:

"Jerious is very similar to a guy (who used to be) in San Diego like Ronnie Harmon, but he's probably a better inside runner. He's not quite as good of a receiver, but a better inside runner. That's probably the closest guy; their body types are very similar."

Ronnie Harmon??? That's the best comparison out there? :mellow:

Harmon was strictly a 3rd-down back. And Norwood was the fastest guy in the draft. Harmon was fast, but I don't think he was a "take it to the house from anywhere on the field" type of back like Norwood is.

Is anyone else bothered by that comparison?

 
Just went back and looked at my Fantasy Football Forecast magazine to see what they wrote about Norwood. Something in there makes me a little uneasy. His college coach at Mississippi State, Sylvester Croom, was asked about Norwood's pro prospects. Croom has been around many successful NFL players and offenses. You'd do well to listen when he talks. Here is what he says about Norwood:

"Jerious is very similar to a guy (who used to be) in San Diego like Ronnie Harmon, but he's probably a better inside runner. He's not quite as good of a receiver, but a better inside runner. That's probably the closest guy; their body types are very similar."

Ronnie Harmon??? That's the best comparison out there? :mellow:

Harmon was strictly a 3rd-down back. And Norwood was the fastest guy in the draft. Harmon was fast, but I don't think he was a "take it to the house from anywhere on the field" type of back like Norwood is.

Is anyone else bothered by that comparison?
Well - Harmon had an illustrious career... no? :unsure:
Code:
+--------------------------+-------------------------+				 |		  Rushing		 |		Receiving		|+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year  TM |   G |   Att  Yards	Y/A   TD |   Rec  Yards   Y/R   TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 1986 buf |  14 |	54	172	3.2	0 |	22	185   8.4	1 || 1987 buf |  12 |   116	485	4.2	2 |	56	477   8.5	2 || 1988 buf |  16 |	57	212	3.7	1 |	37	427  11.5	3 || 1989 buf |  15 |	17	 99	5.8	0 |	29	363  12.5	4 || 1990 sdg |  16 |	66	363	5.5	0 |	46	511  11.1	2 || 1991 sdg |  16 |	89	544	6.1	1 |	59	555   9.4	1 || 1992 sdg |  16 |	55	235	4.3	3 |	79	914  11.6	1 || 1993 sdg |  16 |	46	216	4.7	0 |	73	671   9.2	2 || 1994 sdg |  16 |	25	 94	3.8	1 |	58	615  10.6	1 || 1995 sdg |  16 |	51	187	3.7	1 |	62	662  10.7	5 || 1996 hou |  16 |	29	131	4.5	1 |	42	488  11.6	2 || 1997 chi |   1 |	 2	  6	3.0	0 |	 2	  8   4.0	0 || 1997 ten |  11 |	 8	 30	3.8	0 |	16	189  11.8	0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+|  TOTAL   | 181 |   615   2774	4.5   10 |   581   6065  10.4   24 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
 
Just went back and looked at my Fantasy Football Forecast magazine to see what they wrote about Norwood. Something in there makes me a little uneasy. His college coach at Mississippi State, Sylvester Croom, was asked about Norwood's pro prospects. Croom has been around many successful NFL players and offenses. You'd do well to listen when he talks. Here is what he says about Norwood:

"Jerious is very similar to a guy (who used to be) in San Diego like Ronnie Harmon, but he's probably a better inside runner. He's not quite as good of a receiver, but a better inside runner. That's probably the closest guy; their body types are very similar."

Ronnie Harmon??? That's the best comparison out there? :mellow:

Harmon was strictly a 3rd-down back. And Norwood was the fastest guy in the draft. Harmon was fast, but I don't think he was a "take it to the house from anywhere on the field" type of back like Norwood is.

Is anyone else bothered by that comparison?
Well - Harmon had an illustrious career... no? :unsure:
Code:
+--------------------------+-------------------------+				 |		  Rushing		 |		Receiving		|+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year  TM |   G |   Att  Yards	Y/A   TD |   Rec  Yards   Y/R   TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 1986 buf |  14 |	54	172	3.2	0 |	22	185   8.4	1 || 1987 buf |  12 |   116	485	4.2	2 |	56	477   8.5	2 || 1988 buf |  16 |	57	212	3.7	1 |	37	427  11.5	3 || 1989 buf |  15 |	17	 99	5.8	0 |	29	363  12.5	4 || 1990 sdg |  16 |	66	363	5.5	0 |	46	511  11.1	2 || 1991 sdg |  16 |	89	544	6.1	1 |	59	555   9.4	1 || 1992 sdg |  16 |	55	235	4.3	3 |	79	914  11.6	1 || 1993 sdg |  16 |	46	216	4.7	0 |	73	671   9.2	2 || 1994 sdg |  16 |	25	 94	3.8	1 |	58	615  10.6	1 || 1995 sdg |  16 |	51	187	3.7	1 |	62	662  10.7	5 || 1996 hou |  16 |	29	131	4.5	1 |	42	488  11.6	2 || 1997 chi |   1 |	 2	  6	3.0	0 |	 2	  8   4.0	0 || 1997 ten |  11 |	 8	 30	3.8	0 |	16	189  11.8	0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+|  TOTAL   | 181 |   615   2774	4.5   10 |   581   6065  10.4   24 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
Most of Harmon's damage came receiving. Croom admits that Norwood isn't the receiver that Harmon was. So where does that leave us?
 
"I haven't seen a RB so bow legged since Walt Garrison... looks like he just got off a palomino." :lmao: :lmao:
Umm...the way he ran through the Titans D, he looked like we was still on it. :yes: Norwood =.....Eric Dickerson? (Norwood 6' 204 lbs. Dickerson 6' 3" 220 lbs.) Not sure, just saying they have similar body types and similar skill sets. I'm not pencilling a 2,000 yard season in for Norwood just yet.

 

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