Jerious Norwood (1 Viewer)

[Weiner Dog]

Of the recent dynasty RB-ranking threads, Norwood has had the following rankings:

EBF - #47

Bracie Smathers - #33

Yitbos69 - not ranked (only ranked 24 RB's)

Travdogg - not ranked (only ranked 25 RB's)

The infamous "Sons of the Tundra Dynasty Rankings" has Norwood more generiously ranked at #25.

When I analyze Norwood, I see only opportunity and upside.

* 24 years-old

* Has averaged over 6.0 yards/carry in BOTH of his NFL seasons. Career average (on 202 carries) of 6.2 yards.

* Has over 1600+ yards rushing and receiving in his first two NFL seasons sharing the rock with Dunn and (partially) Vick.

* 900 yards rushing/receiving in '07. He was within 100 yards of Maroney, Bush and S Young. He exceeded DeAngelo Williams.

* He can catch the ball. Has 40 receptions over the past two seasons.

* Warrick Dunn is 33 years-old and due $4mm in '08. He will never sniff this amount.

* Norwood ran the fastest 40 time (4.33) at the '06 NFL combine.

* At 6' and 205lbs, he is built very much like Darren McFadden (6'2" 205lbs). Norwood's size is also comparable to Westbrook, FWP and Bush.



Where do I rank Norwood in dynasty/keeper leagues?? #22

Ahead of Earnest Graham, Selvin Young, K Jones, Edge, Bradshaw, M Bush, Henry, T Jones, J Jones, Fargas, etc. Comparable players seem to be Michael Turner, Lendale White, DeAngelo Williams, Jamal Lewis, and Brandon Jacobs.

 

[Beaumont]

If you believe the Falcons they are going to a smash-mouthed running attack ... speculation is they are looking for a larger back and Norwood will be complimentary only ...



I just dont know outside of a PPR league ...

 

[Sopranos]

Of the recent dynasty RB-ranking threads, Norwood has had the following rankings:

EBF - #47

Bracie Smathers - #33

Yitbos69 - not ranked (only ranked 24 RB's)

Travdogg - not ranked (only ranked 25 RB's)

The infamous "Sons of the Tundra Dynasty Rankings" has Norwood more generiously ranked at #25.

When I analyze Norwood, I see only opportunity and upside.

* 24 years-old

* Has averaged over 6.0 yards/carry in BOTH of his NFL seasons. Career average (on 202 carries) of 6.2 yards.

* Has over 1600+ yards rushing and receiving in his first two NFL seasons sharing the rock with Dunn and (partially) Vick.

* 900 yards rushing/receiving in '07. He was within 100 yards of Maroney, Bush and S Young. He exceeded DeAngelo Williams.

* He can catch the ball. Has 40 receptions over the past two seasons.

* Warrick Dunn is 33 years-old and due $4mm in '08. He will never sniff this amount.

* Norwood ran the fastest 40 time (4.33) at the '06 NFL combine.

* At 6' and 205lbs, he is built very much like Darren McFadden (6'2" 205lbs). Norwood's size is also comparable to Westbrook, FWP and Bush.



Where do I rank Norwood in dynasty/keeper leagues?? #22

Ahead of Earnest Graham, Selvin Young, K Jones, Edge, Bradshaw, M Bush, Henry, T Jones, J Jones, Fargas, etc. Comparable players seem to be Michael Turner, Lendale White, DeAngelo Williams, Jamal Lewis, and Brandon Jacobs.

I agree with all of it. I guess people are sick of waiting for him.

 

[EBF]

* At 6' and 205lbs, he is built very much like Darren McFadden (6'2" 205lbs)

You say that like it's a good thing. Norwood is too lanky to ever be a starting RB in the NFL. He is a skilled player, but he's best suited to a change of pace role. I don't see him as a guy who will consistently get more than 8-12 carries each week.

 

[AllVolUT]

Of the recent dynasty RB-ranking threads, Norwood has had the following rankings:

EBF - #47

Bracie Smathers - #33

Yitbos69 - not ranked (only ranked 24 RB's)

Travdogg - not ranked (only ranked 25 RB's)

The infamous "Sons of the Tundra Dynasty Rankings" has Norwood more generiously ranked at #25.

When I analyze Norwood, I see only opportunity and upside.

* 24 years-old

* Has averaged over 6.0 yards/carry in BOTH of his NFL seasons. Career average (on 202 carries) of 6.2 yards.

* Has over 1600+ yards rushing and receiving in his first two NFL seasons sharing the rock with Dunn and (partially) Vick.

* 900 yards rushing/receiving in '07. He was within 100 yards of Maroney, Bush and S Young. He exceeded DeAngelo Williams.

* He can catch the ball. Has 40 receptions over the past two seasons.

* Warrick Dunn is 33 years-old and due $4mm in '08. He will never sniff this amount.

* Norwood ran the fastest 40 time (4.33) at the '06 NFL combine.

* At 6' and 205lbs, he is built very much like Darren McFadden (6'2" 205lbs). Norwood's size is also comparable to Westbrook, FWP and Bush.



Where do I rank Norwood in dynasty/keeper leagues?? #22

Ahead of Earnest Graham, Selvin Young, K Jones, Edge, Bradshaw, M Bush, Henry, T Jones, J Jones, Fargas, etc. Comparable players seem to be Michael Turner, Lendale White, DeAngelo Williams, Jamal Lewis, and Brandon Jacobs.

I agree with all of it. I guess people are sick of waiting for him.

That makes two that agree with everything you said. If its going to happen, it should start to turn this year now that Mike Smith is at the helm.

 

[Blue-Kun]

He's finished #47 and #40 in PPR leagues in 06 and 07. From all reports he isn't going to be 'the guy' on any rushing attack on ATL. Plus the franchise is in a state of serious rebuilding.

He seems like a much lesser MJD at this point.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I don't see him as a guy who will consistently get more than 8-12 carries each week.

Or he would have done it already. It's not like Dunn and his 3.1ypc were a huge roadblock this year.

 

[Beaumont]

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/sports...=7&cxcat=21

Dunn's Falcons future in doubt

By STEVE WYCHE

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 01/30/08

Phoenix — Falcons tailback Warrick Dunn accepted the inaugural Home Depot NFL Neighborhood MVP award Thursday, cherishing yet another honor for his lengthy and heartfelt community service. If only his hard work on the football field could land him some similar hardware.

In the twilight of his career and maybe the end of his time with the Falcons, Dunn lamented on being part of the Super Bowl activities but not part of the Super Bowl. After 11 seasons — the most recent being the most taxing on his soul and mind — Dunn wants one chance to play for the ultimate prize.

"Hopefully, the right situation comes along and I get an opportunity to play in a game this big," Dunn said.

At 33, coming off a mentally and statistically rough season (227 carries, 720 yards, 4 TDs), Dunn's opportunity might not come with the Falcons. Atlanta recently hired Mike Smith from Jacksonville as its new head coach and Mike Mularkey as its offensive coordinator, and change, possibly radical change, is coming.

Smith and Mularkey said they want to establish a powerful, physical running game, something the Falcons don't have the personnel for at the moment. That could change and change quickly, but some players would have to be cut to create salary-cap room for the Falcons to go shopping in free agency.

The diminutive Dunn could be at the front of the line. His base salary for 2008 — his final year of his contract — is $4 million. At his age, he's not the type of player teams tend to build their futures around, either.

"Hopefully, that all gets worked out and I'm in Atlanta playing to win a division, getting to the playoffs and making a run for the Super Bowl," Dunn said. "Nothing is guaranteed. I'm going to meet with the head coach, but they still have to sit down and meet, figure things out on which direction they want to go. I should know my future, my fate, in February. That's the month we all find out who's going to be cut and who's going to stick around."

If Dunn is released, he said landing with former coach Tony Dungy in Indianapolis or going back to Tampa Bay, which drafted him out of Florida State in 1997, would not be a bad way to finish out his career.

"If I wasn't a Falcon, and I went back to Tampa or played for coach Dungy, it would be something that's full circle," said Dunn, who played for the Buccaneers from 1997 to 2001 under Dungy. "It's not what I'm hoping for and wishing for, but you never know."

Dunn said he has spent the past few weeks decompressing mentally and physically. He's also ready to start working out to prove that he can still play. Mularkey said Dunn can still play. Whether he will play for the Falcons is something Mularkey said he wouldn't talk about because he and the staff haven't made full evaluations on personnel.

"The first word that comes to mind is 'competitor'," said Mularkey, who recently was hired after spending the past two seasons with the Dolphins as offensive coordinator and tight ends coach, respectively. "He competes every Sunday from start to finish. It's obvious by his body language. He's a leader on the field.

"On tape I can see if he's a dog. See if it's important to him. See if he's injured. I still see that he wants it, even where he is in his career."

Dunn became the 22nd player in NFL history to rush for more than 10,000 yards last season. Other than that, he wants no memory of what occurred, starting with quarterback Michael Vick's lengthy investigation and eventual imprisonment on federal dogfighting charges to coach Bobby Petrino forcing him into a misfit system them quitting with three games left in the season.

"I'm not going back to look at any game film, anything," Dunn said. "It was one of those seasons that you wish you could erase it out of your memory. I want to be able to have amnesia."

 

[Weiner Dog]

I do not necessarily fear a RBBC for Norwood. In fact, I'd welcome it. With some extreme exceptions, every NFL team has a committee of RB's in their turn-table.

I really like that Norwood can catch the ball. If you couple 40-50 receptions along with 200-225 carries (12-14 per game), you could have a guy who averages 100 rushing/receiving yards per game. This would be very powerful in FF.

 

[MAC_32]

I do not necessarily fear a RBBC for Norwood. In fact, I'd welcome it. With some extreme exceptions, every NFL team has a committee of RB's in their turn-table. I really like that Norwood can catch the ball. If you couple 40-50 receptions along with 200-225 carries (12-14 per game), you could have a guy who averages 100 rushing/receiving yards per game. This would be very powerful in FF.

Extrapolating his two year total over one season is a recipe for setting yourself up for disappointment.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I do not necessarily fear a RBBC for Norwood. In fact, I'd welcome it. With some extreme exceptions, every NFL team has a committee of RB's in their turn-table. I really like that Norwood can catch the ball. If you couple 40-50 receptions along with 200-225 carries (12-14 per game), you could have a guy who averages 100 rushing/receiving yards per game. This would be very powerful in FF.

Extrapolating his two year total over one season is a recipe for setting yourself up for disappointment.

With a new coaching staff and a ton of new personnel, I do not think anyone can know what will happen. Even with Norwood's flashes, he still has not shown he can carry the load for a few game stretch in the NFL, much less a season. In his two-year career, Norwood has only had 10+ carries in a game four times, with a high of 13 carries.

 

[Weiner Dog]

I do not necessarily fear a RBBC for Norwood. In fact, I'd welcome it. With some extreme exceptions, every NFL team has a committee of RB's in their turn-table. I really like that Norwood can catch the ball. If you couple 40-50 receptions along with 200-225 carries (12-14 per game), you could have a guy who averages 100 rushing/receiving yards per game. This would be very powerful in FF.

Extrapolating his two year total over one season is a recipe for setting yourself up for disappointment.

With a new coaching staff and a ton of new personnel, I do not think anyone can know what will happen. Even with Norwood's flashes, he still has not shown he can carry the load for a few game stretch in the NFL, much less a season. In his two-year career, Norwood has only had 10+ carries in a game four times, with a high of 13 carries.

I agree 100% that my assumption is based on speculation. With that being, aren't all RB's ranked in the #20-#50 range surrounded with question marks?? RB's in this domain are either too old, too small, too whatever. It's not like we're talking ADP here.The combination of 1) Dunn not returning, 2) a somewhat weak UFA market for RB's and 3) the Falcons not drafting a RB until the 2nd-round (at the earliest) needs to be considered when evaluating Norwood for '08.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I do not necessarily fear a RBBC for Norwood. In fact, I'd welcome it. With some extreme exceptions, every NFL team has a committee of RB's in their turn-table.

I really like that Norwood can catch the ball. If you couple 40-50 receptions along with 200-225 carries (12-14 per game), you could have a guy who averages 100 rushing/receiving yards per game. This would be very powerful in FF.

Extrapolating his two year total over one season is a recipe for setting yourself up for disappointment.

With a new coaching staff and a ton of new personnel, I do not think anyone can know what will happen. Even with Norwood's flashes, he still has not shown he can carry the load for a few game stretch in the NFL, much less a season. In his two-year career, Norwood has only had 10+ carries in a game four times, with a high of 13 carries.

I agree 100% that my assumption is based on speculation. With that being, aren't all RB's ranked in the #20-#50 range surrounded with question marks?? RB's in this domain are either too old, too small, too whatever. It's not like we're talking ADP here.The combination of 1) Dunn not returning, 2) a somewhat weak UFA market for RB's and 3) the Falcons not drafting a RB until the 2nd-round (at the earliest) needs to be considered when evaluating Norwood for '08.

I agree with the bolded part above. But, don't you think that a 2nd round RB should have more talent and be more of a ongterm threat to Norwood than what Dunn has been?

 

[jevy]

Norwood is bad at passblocking. If he can improve that part of his game, then he might get more playing time.

 

[ATRAIN56]

Its simple. Mr. Mcfadden.

 

[EBF]

I do not necessarily fear a RBBC for Norwood. In fact, I'd welcome it. With some extreme exceptions, every NFL team has a committee of RB's in their turn-table. I really like that Norwood can catch the ball. If you couple 40-50 receptions along with 200-225 carries (12-14 per game), you could have a guy who averages 100 rushing/receiving yards per game. This would be very powerful in FF.

Extrapolating his two year total over one season is a recipe for setting yourself up for disappointment.

With a new coaching staff and a ton of new personnel, I do not think anyone can know what will happen. Even with Norwood's flashes, he still has not shown he can carry the load for a few game stretch in the NFL, much less a season. In his two-year career, Norwood has only had 10+ carries in a game four times, with a high of 13 carries.

I agree 100% that my assumption is based on speculation. With that being, aren't all RB's ranked in the #20-#50 range surrounded with question marks?? RB's in this domain are either too old, too small, too whatever. It's not like we're talking ADP here.The combination of 1) Dunn not returning, 2) a somewhat weak UFA market for RB's and 3) the Falcons not drafting a RB until the 2nd-round (at the earliest) needs to be considered when evaluating Norwood for '08.

Most of the RBs in the 25-50 range aren't worth their weight in doggie chow. Norwood isn't necessarily horrible relative to other scrub RBs in the NFL, but he's not a guy you want on your dynasty team. If I owned him in any of my leagues I would trade him for a WR or QB prospect. You can probably get someone like Aaron Rodgers or James Jones for him. I'd much rather have a guy like that.

 

[Weiner Dog]

Norwood is bad at passblocking. If he can improve that part of his game, then he might get more playing time.

Yeah, I've read this is an area he needs to improve. It'll be tough for him to net 40-50 catches if he's not playing on 3rd-downs.

 

[Weiner Dog]

I do not necessarily fear a RBBC for Norwood. In fact, I'd welcome it. With some extreme exceptions, every NFL team has a committee of RB's in their turn-table.

I really like that Norwood can catch the ball. If you couple 40-50 receptions along with 200-225 carries (12-14 per game), you could have a guy who averages 100 rushing/receiving yards per game. This would be very powerful in FF.

Extrapolating his two year total over one season is a recipe for setting yourself up for disappointment.

With a new coaching staff and a ton of new personnel, I do not think anyone can know what will happen. Even with Norwood's flashes, he still has not shown he can carry the load for a few game stretch in the NFL, much less a season. In his two-year career, Norwood has only had 10+ carries in a game four times, with a high of 13 carries.

I agree 100% that my assumption is based on speculation. With that being, aren't all RB's ranked in the #20-#50 range surrounded with question marks?? RB's in this domain are either too old, too small, too whatever. It's not like we're talking ADP here.The combination of 1) Dunn not returning, 2) a somewhat weak UFA market for RB's and 3) the Falcons not drafting a RB until the 2nd-round (at the earliest) needs to be considered when evaluating Norwood for '08.

I agree with the bolded part above. But, don't you think that a 2nd round RB should have more talent and be more of a ongterm threat to Norwood than what Dunn has been?

Over the long-term?? Most definitely. There's a great chance a 2nd-round RB will be a bigger back than Norwood.However, Dunn is/was a baller. He was the #12 overall pick in the '97 draft and didn't top 10k yards on good lucks.

 

[Weiner Dog]

I do not necessarily fear a RBBC for Norwood. In fact, I'd welcome it. With some extreme exceptions, every NFL team has a committee of RB's in their turn-table. I really like that Norwood can catch the ball. If you couple 40-50 receptions along with 200-225 carries (12-14 per game), you could have a guy who averages 100 rushing/receiving yards per game. This would be very powerful in FF.

Extrapolating his two year total over one season is a recipe for setting yourself up for disappointment.

With a new coaching staff and a ton of new personnel, I do not think anyone can know what will happen. Even with Norwood's flashes, he still has not shown he can carry the load for a few game stretch in the NFL, much less a season. In his two-year career, Norwood has only had 10+ carries in a game four times, with a high of 13 carries.

I agree 100% that my assumption is based on speculation. With that being, aren't all RB's ranked in the #20-#50 range surrounded with question marks?? RB's in this domain are either too old, too small, too whatever. It's not like we're talking ADP here.The combination of 1) Dunn not returning, 2) a somewhat weak UFA market for RB's and 3) the Falcons not drafting a RB until the 2nd-round (at the earliest) needs to be considered when evaluating Norwood for '08.

Most of the RBs in the 25-50 range aren't worth their weight in doggie chow. Norwood isn't necessarily horrible relative to other scrub RBs in the NFL, but he's not a guy you want on your dynasty team. If I owned him in any of my leagues I would trade him for a WR or QB prospect. You can probably get someone like Aaron Rodgers or James Jones for him. I'd much rather have a guy like that.

As noted in my first post, you have Norwood lower than others. I really respect your opinion on players, and I'm curious why you would choose the likes of Chris Perry, Ladell Betts, Musa Smith, Cadillac Williams, Kenny Irons, etc over Norwood.Would you really trade Norwood for either Rodgers or Jones?? I play in a 12-team, 53-player league. Guys like Norwood can become golden. On the flip-side, the can also hog a roster spot for 2-3 years and never produce.

 

[Truman]

I don't see him as a guy who will consistently get more than 8-12 carries each week.

Or he would have done it already. It's not like Dunn and his 3.1ypc were a huge roadblock this year.

Except he was because his short-sighted coach refused to start him due to pass-blocking deficiensies.

 

[Dreamer]

His legs are too skinny.

 

[Weiner Dog]

His legs are too skinny.

 

[EBF]

As noted in my first post, you have Norwood lower than others. I really respect your opinion on players, and I'm curious why you would choose the likes of Chris Perry, Ladell Betts, Musa Smith, Cadillac Williams, Kenny Irons, etc over Norwood.Would you really trade Norwood for either Rodgers or Jones?? I play in a 12-team, 53-player league. Guys like Norwood can become golden. On the flip-side, the can also hog a roster spot for 2-3 years and never produce. :X

Perry, Betts, Smith, and Williams are all better than Norwood and are more likely to become top 20 RBs in a future season. Irons could be starting for the Bengals as early as next year. I would definitely trade Norwood for Rodgers or Jones. Norwood will never be more than a fringe player. Rodgers and Jones have a chance to be starters for FF teams in the future.

 

[DoubleG]

I was simply going to answer that he couldn't even beat out a slowing-down-over-the-hill-small-RB-on-the-downside-of-his-career- 31 year old who averaged 3.1 ypc last year, but most of you covered it pretty well.

 

[awesomeness]

As noted in my first post, you have Norwood lower than others. I really respect your opinion on players, and I'm curious why you would choose the likes of Chris Perry, Ladell Betts, Musa Smith, Cadillac Williams, Kenny Irons, etc over Norwood.

Would you really trade Norwood for either Rodgers or Jones?? I play in a 12-team, 53-player league. Guys like Norwood can become golden. On the flip-side, the can also hog a roster spot for 2-3 years and never produce.

Perry, Betts, Smith, and Williams are all better than Norwood and are more likely to become top 20 RBs in a future season. Irons could be starting for the Bengals as early as next year.

I would definitely trade Norwood for Rodgers or Jones. Norwood will never be more than a fringe player. Rodgers and Jones have a chance to be starters for FF teams in the future.

when did you come to the conclusion that Perry is better than Norwood? Was it during one of his 73 carries, one of his multiple injuries, or the fact that the Bengals drafted a RB in the 2nd round even though they already had a young RB in Perry on their team?I also wouldnt say that either Betts or Smith is better than Norwood, but at least i would understand how someone could claim they are.

 

[EBF]

As noted in my first post, you have Norwood lower than others. I really respect your opinion on players, and I'm curious why you would choose the likes of Chris Perry, Ladell Betts, Musa Smith, Cadillac Williams, Kenny Irons, etc over Norwood.

Would you really trade Norwood for either Rodgers or Jones?? I play in a 12-team, 53-player league. Guys like Norwood can become golden. On the flip-side, the can also hog a roster spot for 2-3 years and never produce.

Perry, Betts, Smith, and Williams are all better than Norwood and are more likely to become top 20 RBs in a future season. Irons could be starting for the Bengals as early as next year.

I would definitely trade Norwood for Rodgers or Jones. Norwood will never be more than a fringe player. Rodgers and Jones have a chance to be starters for FF teams in the future.

when did you come to the conclusion that Perry is better than Norwood? Was it during one of his 73 carries, one of his multiple injuries, or the fact that the Bengals drafted a RB in the 2nd round even though they already had a young RB in Perry on their team?I also wouldnt say that either Betts or Smith is better than Norwood, but at least i would understand how someone could claim they are.

My opinion from watching both of them throughout their careers is that Chris Perry is more likely to be a starting RB in the NFL than Jerious Norwood is.

 

[travdogg]

Norwood averages 6 yards per carry because he only gets about 5 a game. He has little upside IMO because whenever the Falcons tried to give him more carries he got hurt. On at least three occasions Petrino tried to feature Norwood and he ended up leaving with an injury every time.

I would rather have him than all but Caddy and Irons on that list, but I don't expect him to ever be a top-25 back.

 

[Weiner Dog]

Norwood averages 6 yards per carry because he only gets about 5 a game. He has little upside IMO because whenever the Falcons tried to give him more carries he got hurt. On at least three occasions Petrino tried to feature Norwood and he ended up leaving with an injury every time. I would rather have him than all but Caddy and Irons on that list, but I don't expect him to ever be a top-25 back.

He was the #22-scoring RB in my league last year.

 

[videoguy505]

ESPN's current mock as of just a minute ago (because the official ESPN mock changes every 15 minutes) has McFadden going to the Falcons with the 3 pick.

 

[Arm Chair Express]

Its simple. Mr. Mcfadden.

So you wouldn't start a 6' 205lb RB because you want to go to a power running game, but you'd go out and get a 6'2" 205 lb RB back to do that. Mr. Millen is that you?

 

[KellysHeroes]

Norwood needs to learn to pick up a blitz before he sees any type of RB1 time... I feel for any QB thats on the field when Norwood is out there in pass protect.

 

[Two Deep]

As noted in my first post, you have Norwood lower than others. I really respect your opinion on players, and I'm curious why you would choose the likes of Chris Perry, Ladell Betts, Musa Smith, Cadillac Williams, Kenny Irons, etc over Norwood.Would you really trade Norwood for either Rodgers or Jones?? I play in a 12-team, 53-player league. Guys like Norwood can become golden. On the flip-side, the can also hog a roster spot for 2-3 years and never produce.

Perry, Betts, Smith, and Williams are all better than Norwood and are more likely to become top 20 RBs in a future season. Irons could be starting for the Bengals as early as next year. I would definitely trade Norwood for Rodgers or Jones. Norwood will never be more than a fringe player. Rodgers and Jones have a chance to be starters for FF teams in the future.

I'm glad you're not running my scouting department.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Ahead of Earnest Graham, Selvin Young, K Jones, Edge, Bradshaw, M Bush, Henry, T Jones, J Jones, Fargas, etc. Comparable players seem to be Michael Turner, Lendale White, DeAngelo Williams, Jamal Lewis, and Brandon Jacobs.

3 I highlighted is the only 3 I would put below Norwood... I know Norwood is very fast and exciting w/ some decent hands. But the team is in a terrible state and the guy need to learn some other aspects of being an NFL RB; like Pass Proection.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Its simple. Mr. Mcfadden.

So you wouldn't start a 6' 205lb RB because you want to go to a power running game, but you'd go out and get a 6'2" 205 lb RB back to do that. Mr. Millen is that you?

That was his freshman year weight. Word is that he's up to 215. We'll have to see what he weighs in at the combine. If he comes in at 215 or better, he's roughly the same size as AD last year.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Its simple. Mr. Mcfadden.

So you wouldn't start a 6' 205lb RB because you want to go to a power running game, but you'd go out and get a 6'2" 205 lb RB back to do that. Mr. Millen is that you?

That was his freshman year weight. Word is that he's up to 215. We'll have to see what he weighs in at the combine. If he comes in at 215 or better, he's roughly the same size as AD last year.

Isn't DMac only 20... he still very young and can easily put on more weight. I always see these posts that "hes too lite"... not like the kids can't put on a couple of extra pounds.

 

[travdogg]

Norwood averages 6 yards per carry because he only gets about 5 a game. He has little upside IMO because whenever the Falcons tried to give him more carries he got hurt. On at least three occasions Petrino tried to feature Norwood and he ended up leaving with an injury every time. I would rather have him than all but Caddy and Irons on that list, but I don't expect him to ever be a top-25 back.

He was the #22-scoring RB in my league last year.

Does your league give points for return yardage or long TD's?In my league he finished 59th, between Julius Jones and Jesse Chatman.

 

[PranksterJD]

Norwood averages 6 yards per carry because he only gets about 5 a game. He has little upside IMO because whenever the Falcons tried to give him more carries he got hurt. On at least three occasions Petrino tried to feature Norwood and he ended up leaving with an injury every time. I would rather have him than all but Caddy and Irons on that list, but I don't expect him to ever be a top-25 back.

He was the #22-scoring RB in my league last year.

Does your league give points for return yardage or long TD's?In my league he finished 59th, between Julius Jones and Jesse Chatman.

FBG standard has him at RB73 overall, RB26 in PPG.

 

[Weiner Dog]

Norwood averages 6 yards per carry because he only gets about 5 a game. He has little upside IMO because whenever the Falcons tried to give him more carries he got hurt. On at least three occasions Petrino tried to feature Norwood and he ended up leaving with an injury every time. I would rather have him than all but Caddy and Irons on that list, but I don't expect him to ever be a top-25 back.

He was the #22-scoring RB in my league last year.

Does your league give points for return yardage or long TD's?In my league he finished 59th, between Julius Jones and Jesse Chatman.

FBG standard has him at RB73 overall, RB26 in PPG.

My league is more performance based. * 1.65 pts per 10 yards rushing/receiving* 0.50 pts per 10 yards kick/punt returning* 6.00 pts per TD* 4 pt bonus for 100+ yards rushing/receiving* 2 pt bonus for 75 yards receiving

 

[Duke1948]

As noted in my first post, you have Norwood lower than others. I really respect your opinion on players, and I'm curious why you would choose the likes of Chris Perry, Ladell Betts, Musa Smith, Cadillac Williams, Kenny Irons, etc over Norwood.

Would you really trade Norwood for either Rodgers or Jones?? I play in a 12-team, 53-player league. Guys like Norwood can become golden. On the flip-side, the can also hog a roster spot for 2-3 years and never produce.

Perry, Betts, Smith, and Williams are all better than Norwood and are more likely to become top 20 RBs in a future season. Irons could be starting for the Bengals as early as next year.

I would definitely trade Norwood for Rodgers or Jones. Norwood will never be more than a fringe player. Rodgers and Jones have a chance to be starters for FF teams in the future.

when did you come to the conclusion that Perry is better than Norwood? Was it during one of his 73 carries, one of his multiple injuries, or the fact that the Bengals drafted a RB in the 2nd round even though they already had a young RB in Perry on their team?I also wouldnt say that either Betts or Smith is better than Norwood, but at least i would understand how someone could claim they are.

My opinion from watching both of them throughout their careers is that Chris Perry is more likely to be a starting RB in the NFL than Jerious Norwood is.

EBF i generally regard your opine as better than most but that last statement just doesn't compute.....granted perry has been injured but that's part of it too. in their NFL careers norwood has out rushed perry by about 800 yds, with the rec. yards about the same. couldn't find perry's college total but norwood had 3200 yards rushing, can't imagine perry having much more.

i own both in one or more of the dynasty leagues i play in and i consider norwood a much more valuable player than perry, simply because of injuries to perry.

 

[EBF]

As noted in my first post, you have Norwood lower than others. I really respect your opinion on players, and I'm curious why you would choose the likes of Chris Perry, Ladell Betts, Musa Smith, Cadillac Williams, Kenny Irons, etc over Norwood.

Would you really trade Norwood for either Rodgers or Jones?? I play in a 12-team, 53-player league. Guys like Norwood can become golden. On the flip-side, the can also hog a roster spot for 2-3 years and never produce.

Perry, Betts, Smith, and Williams are all better than Norwood and are more likely to become top 20 RBs in a future season. Irons could be starting for the Bengals as early as next year.

I would definitely trade Norwood for Rodgers or Jones. Norwood will never be more than a fringe player. Rodgers and Jones have a chance to be starters for FF teams in the future.

when did you come to the conclusion that Perry is better than Norwood? Was it during one of his 73 carries, one of his multiple injuries, or the fact that the Bengals drafted a RB in the 2nd round even though they already had a young RB in Perry on their team?I also wouldnt say that either Betts or Smith is better than Norwood, but at least i would understand how someone could claim they are.

My opinion from watching both of them throughout their careers is that Chris Perry is more likely to be a starting RB in the NFL than Jerious Norwood is.

EBF i generally regard your opine as better than most but that last statement just doesn't compute.....granted perry has been injured but that's part of it too. in their NFL careers norwood has out rushed perry by about 800 yds, with the rec. yards about the same. couldn't find perry's college total but norwood had 3200 yards rushing, can't imagine perry having much more.

i own both in one or more of the dynasty leagues i play in and i consider norwood a much more valuable player than perry, simply because of injuries to perry.

It all depends on how you look at things. Norwood is more likely to have value next year, but I believe that if Chris Perry can somehow come back from all these injuries to 100% then he could conceivably become a starter in the NFL. So while the odds of him ever amounting to anything are very slim, I still think he has a chance to become a top 20 type guy whereas I don't think Norwood has any probability of reaching that level.

A 1% chance at a top 20 back is more interesting to me than a 50% chance at a fringe player. It's no so much an endorsement of Perry as it is an indictment of Norwood. He just doesn't look like a guy who will ever be a difference maker. In a deep league that starts a lot of RBs he has more value since he could conceivably help you win in that type of format. But don't think he's the next Frank Gore or Brian Westbrook. I look for the Falcons to add a prominent back in the draft or in free agency.

 

[awesomeness]

As noted in my first post, you have Norwood lower than others. I really respect your opinion on players, and I'm curious why you would choose the likes of Chris Perry, Ladell Betts, Musa Smith, Cadillac Williams, Kenny Irons, etc over Norwood.

Would you really trade Norwood for either Rodgers or Jones?? I play in a 12-team, 53-player league. Guys like Norwood can become golden. On the flip-side, the can also hog a roster spot for 2-3 years and never produce.

Perry, Betts, Smith, and Williams are all better than Norwood and are more likely to become top 20 RBs in a future season. Irons could be starting for the Bengals as early as next year.

I would definitely trade Norwood for Rodgers or Jones. Norwood will never be more than a fringe player. Rodgers and Jones have a chance to be starters for FF teams in the future.

when did you come to the conclusion that Perry is better than Norwood? Was it during one of his 73 carries, one of his multiple injuries, or the fact that the Bengals drafted a RB in the 2nd round even though they already had a young RB in Perry on their team?I also wouldnt say that either Betts or Smith is better than Norwood, but at least i would understand how someone could claim they are.

My opinion from watching both of them throughout their careers is that Chris Perry is more likely to be a starting RB in the NFL than Jerious Norwood is.

EBF i generally regard your opine as better than most but that last statement just doesn't compute.....granted perry has been injured but that's part of it too. in their NFL careers norwood has out rushed perry by about 800 yds, with the rec. yards about the same. couldn't find perry's college total but norwood had 3200 yards rushing, can't imagine perry having much more.

i own both in one or more of the dynasty leagues i play in and i consider norwood a much more valuable player than perry, simply because of injuries to perry.

It all depends on how you look at things. Norwood is more likely to have value next year, but I believe that if Chris Perry can somehow come back from all these injuries to 100% then he could conceivably become a starter in the NFL. So while the odds of him ever amounting to anything are very slim, I still think he has a chance to become a top 20 type guy whereas I don't think Norwood has any probability of reaching that level.

A 1% chance at a top 20 back is more interesting to me than a 50% chance at a fringe player. It's no so much an endorsement of Perry as it is an indictment of Norwood. He just doesn't look like a guy who will ever be a difference maker. In a deep league that starts a lot of RBs he has more value since he could conceivably help you win in that type of format. But don't think he's the next Frank Gore or Brian Westbrook. I look for the Falcons to add a prominent back in the draft or in free agency.

For one, Norwood already is a fringe player, and is more likely to be a top 20 player than Perry. If you think Perry only has 1% of making it as a top 20, do you not think there is a player out there who is less risky and would be a better pickup?

 

[Weiner Dog]

As noted in my first post, you have Norwood lower than others. I really respect your opinion on players, and I'm curious why you would choose the likes of Chris Perry, Ladell Betts, Musa Smith, Cadillac Williams, Kenny Irons, etc over Norwood.

Would you really trade Norwood for either Rodgers or Jones?? I play in a 12-team, 53-player league. Guys like Norwood can become golden. On the flip-side, the can also hog a roster spot for 2-3 years and never produce.

Perry, Betts, Smith, and Williams are all better than Norwood and are more likely to become top 20 RBs in a future season. Irons could be starting for the Bengals as early as next year.

I would definitely trade Norwood for Rodgers or Jones. Norwood will never be more than a fringe player. Rodgers and Jones have a chance to be starters for FF teams in the future.

when did you come to the conclusion that Perry is better than Norwood? Was it during one of his 73 carries, one of his multiple injuries, or the fact that the Bengals drafted a RB in the 2nd round even though they already had a young RB in Perry on their team?I also wouldnt say that either Betts or Smith is better than Norwood, but at least i would understand how someone could claim they are.

My opinion from watching both of them throughout their careers is that Chris Perry is more likely to be a starting RB in the NFL than Jerious Norwood is.

EBF i generally regard your opine as better than most but that last statement just doesn't compute.....granted perry has been injured but that's part of it too. in their NFL careers norwood has out rushed perry by about 800 yds, with the rec. yards about the same. couldn't find perry's college total but norwood had 3200 yards rushing, can't imagine perry having much more.

i own both in one or more of the dynasty leagues i play in and i consider norwood a much more valuable player than perry, simply because of injuries to perry.

It all depends on how you look at things. Norwood is more likely to have value next year, but I believe that if Chris Perry can somehow come back from all these injuries to 100% then he could conceivably become a starter in the NFL. So while the odds of him ever amounting to anything are very slim, I still think he has a chance to become a top 20 type guy whereas I don't think Norwood has any probability of reaching that level.

A 1% chance at a top 20 back is more interesting to me than a 50% chance at a fringe player. It's no so much an endorsement of Perry as it is an indictment of Norwood. He just doesn't look like a guy who will ever be a difference maker. In a deep league that starts a lot of RBs he has more value since he could conceivably help you win in that type of format. But don't think he's the next Frank Gore or Brian Westbrook. I look for the Falcons to add a prominent back in the draft or in free agency.

Since Westbrook is essentially Norwood's extreme upside, it's interesting to see their career stats side-by-side:Westbrook

'02: 279 total rushing/receiving yards

'03: 945

'04: 1,515

'05: 1,233

'06: 1,916

'07: 2,104

Norwood

'06: 735 total rushing/receiving yards

'07: 900

'08: ???

Granted...to compare Norwood to Westbrook at this stage seems somewhat far-fetched. However, it cannot be ignored that the same negatives (undersized, not a true #1, etc, etc) being said about Norwood, were also said abut Westbrook after his second season.

It should also be noted that Westbrook was kept on the bench by Duce Staley his rookie season. In year two, Westbrook's 945 total yards outpaced Staley's 845 total yards. This past season, Norwood's 900 total yards trailed Dunn's production by only 58 yards.

It's earily similar...

...and to Norwood's defense, Staley could not hold Dunn's jock.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

Norwood is closer to a healthier version of Tavian Banks than any comparison to Westbrook. Even if Norwood did have Westbrook qualities we will prolly never know as the Falcons will be the furthest thing from a West Coast offense.

 

[Ed Wood]

A 1% chance at a top 20 back is more interesting to me than a 50% chance at a fringe player. It's no so much an endorsement of Perry as it is an indictment of Norwood. He just doesn't look like a guy who will ever be a difference maker. In a deep league that starts a lot of RBs he has more value since he could conceivably help you win in that type of format. But don't think he's the next Frank Gore or Brian Westbrook. I look for the Falcons to add a prominent back in the draft or in free agency.

EBF, like the poster a few posts before, I value your opinion quite highly but I've got to take exception with a few things here.1) You'd take the 1% chance over the 50%? No way would I do that. Given a full opportunity that "fringe" player could turn out to be pretty decent (see Grant, Ryan).2) It sounds like you're calling Norwood a fringe player. Just because he's played a fringe role because of the stupidity of the Falcons coaching staff doesn't make him a fringe player. His first game as a pro, he rushed for 66 yards on 10 carries. That same year he posted games of 9/45, 6/106, 8/64, 9/107 and 10/63. If you want to talk percentages, I'd say he has a 25% chance at being a top 20 back and a 50% chance to be a full-time starter if given the opportunity—whether it's with Atlanta or somebody else.3) I haven't heard anybody say he's going to be the next Gore or Westbrook. I'm just hearing people say let's give him a chance to SEE if he can be. His combined totals for 2 years: 202 carries, 1,246 yards (6.2 ypc) and 40 catches for 379 yards shouldn't be overlooked. Again, enjoy your posts and learn lots from 'em. Keep 'em coming.

 

[EBF]

As noted in my first post, you have Norwood lower than others. I really respect your opinion on players, and I'm curious why you would choose the likes of Chris Perry, Ladell Betts, Musa Smith, Cadillac Williams, Kenny Irons, etc over Norwood.

Would you really trade Norwood for either Rodgers or Jones?? I play in a 12-team, 53-player league. Guys like Norwood can become golden. On the flip-side, the can also hog a roster spot for 2-3 years and never produce.

Perry, Betts, Smith, and Williams are all better than Norwood and are more likely to become top 20 RBs in a future season. Irons could be starting for the Bengals as early as next year.

I would definitely trade Norwood for Rodgers or Jones. Norwood will never be more than a fringe player. Rodgers and Jones have a chance to be starters for FF teams in the future.

when did you come to the conclusion that Perry is better than Norwood? Was it during one of his 73 carries, one of his multiple injuries, or the fact that the Bengals drafted a RB in the 2nd round even though they already had a young RB in Perry on their team?I also wouldnt say that either Betts or Smith is better than Norwood, but at least i would understand how someone could claim they are.

My opinion from watching both of them throughout their careers is that Chris Perry is more likely to be a starting RB in the NFL than Jerious Norwood is.

EBF i generally regard your opine as better than most but that last statement just doesn't compute.....granted perry has been injured but that's part of it too. in their NFL careers norwood has out rushed perry by about 800 yds, with the rec. yards about the same. couldn't find perry's college total but norwood had 3200 yards rushing, can't imagine perry having much more.

i own both in one or more of the dynasty leagues i play in and i consider norwood a much more valuable player than perry, simply because of injuries to perry.

It all depends on how you look at things. Norwood is more likely to have value next year, but I believe that if Chris Perry can somehow come back from all these injuries to 100% then he could conceivably become a starter in the NFL. So while the odds of him ever amounting to anything are very slim, I still think he has a chance to become a top 20 type guy whereas I don't think Norwood has any probability of reaching that level.

A 1% chance at a top 20 back is more interesting to me than a 50% chance at a fringe player. It's no so much an endorsement of Perry as it is an indictment of Norwood. He just doesn't look like a guy who will ever be a difference maker. In a deep league that starts a lot of RBs he has more value since he could conceivably help you win in that type of format. But don't think he's the next Frank Gore or Brian Westbrook. I look for the Falcons to add a prominent back in the draft or in free agency.

Since Westbrook is essentially Norwood's extreme upside, it's interesting to see their career stats side-by-side:Westbrook

'02: 279 total rushing/receiving yards

'03: 945

'04: 1,515

'05: 1,233

'06: 1,916

'07: 2,104

Norwood

'06: 735 total rushing/receiving yards

'07: 900

'08: ???

Granted...to compare Norwood to Westbrook at this stage seems somewhat far-fetched. However, it cannot be ignored that the same negatives (undersized, not a true #1, etc, etc) being said about Norwood, were also said abut Westbrook after his second season.

It should also be noted that Westbrook was kept on the bench by Duce Staley his rookie season. In year two, Westbrook's 945 total yards outpaced Staley's 845 total yards. This past season, Norwood's 900 total yards trailed Dunn's production by only 58 yards.

It's earily similar...

...and to Norwood's defense, Staley could not hold Dunn's jock.

Ugh.... There's just a fundamental flaw in body type and playing style that will prevent Norwood from ever being "the guy" for an NFL team. I actually think he's a talented player who will hang around the league for a while, but all it takes is one look at those ostrich legs to realize this guy is a specialist and nothing more.

Two separate coaching staffs have had a long look at him and neither has deemed him worthy of an expanded role. And while it's true that players who spend several years on the bench sometimes emerge as studs, I just think you're trying to polish a turd into a diamond.

It's a turd. Move along.

 

[EBF]

2) It sounds like you're calling Norwood a fringe player. Just because he's played a fringe role because of the stupidity of the Falcons coaching staff doesn't make him a fringe player. His first game as a pro, he rushed for 66 yards on 10 carries. That same year he posted games of 9/45, 6/106, 8/64, 9/107 and 10/63. If you want to talk percentages, I'd say he has a 25% chance at being a top 20 back and a 50% chance to be a full-time starter if given the opportunity—whether it's with Atlanta or somebody else.

That's where we differ. I think he has a 0% chance of becoming a long-term starter in the NFL. My ranking is probably about 10 spots too low, but he's really not a guy I'd recommend drafting or acquiring.

 

[Ed Wood]

2) It sounds like you're calling Norwood a fringe player. Just because he's played a fringe role because of the stupidity of the Falcons coaching staff doesn't make him a fringe player. His first game as a pro, he rushed for 66 yards on 10 carries. That same year he posted games of 9/45, 6/106, 8/64, 9/107 and 10/63. If you want to talk percentages, I'd say he has a 25% chance at being a top 20 back and a 50% chance to be a full-time starter if given the opportunity—whether it's with Atlanta or somebody else.

That's where we differ. I think he has a 0% chance of becoming a long-term starter in the NFL. My ranking is probably about 10 spots too low, but he's really not a guy I'd recommend drafting or acquiring.

Fair enough.

 

[heidbrink]

He's one of those guys that I can see flying under the wire. Good runners come in all sizes. I can remember a guy named Tiki who was too small to be a starter. Not saying I believe that Norwood is going to be a top 10 guy like him but I can see similarities. And, more importantly, I can see an opportunity here fore value.

 

[Biabreakable]

* At 6' and 205lbs, he is built very much like Darren McFadden (6'2" 205lbs)

You say that like it's a good thing. Norwood is too lanky to ever be a starting RB in the NFL. He is a skilled player, but he's best suited to a change of pace role. I don't see him as a guy who will consistently get more than 8-12 carries each week.

I find it interesting that you say this and have Norwood ranked 47 when you could easily apply the same statement to Reggie Bush who you have ranked somthing like 8-10.

 

[EBF]

* At 6' and 205lbs, he is built very much like Darren McFadden (6'2" 205lbs)

You say that like it's a good thing. Norwood is too lanky to ever be a starting RB in the NFL. He is a skilled player, but he's best suited to a change of pace role. I don't see him as a guy who will consistently get more than 8-12 carries each week.

I find it interesting that you say this and have Norwood ranked 47 when you could easily apply the same statement to Reggie Bush who you have ranked somthing like 8-10.

They have the same body type on paper, but they definitely don't have the same body type in person. Bush has thicker legs and a stockier body. Also, he was a much higher pick and was twice the college player Norwood was.