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Jets / Bengals Preseason Game (1 Viewer)
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well, ppl really like to hate on the bengals. no one has mentioned how torched up the 50m dollar+ secondary of the texans has been.
but, its been 2 games of aj green and i cant help but think hes braylon edwards part 2. and maybe without the explosiveness and separation that braylon routinely displays. that falcons deal sure looks proper now.
but, its been 2 games of aj green and i cant help but think hes braylon edwards part 2. and maybe without the explosiveness and separation that braylon routinely displays. that falcons deal sure looks proper now.
doowain
Footballguy
Sigh.
He's a rookie being thrown balls by a rookie with very little off season work between the two. Not to mention there have only been two preseason games.....one of which was in pretty steady rain.
What are you people expecting?
If you have watched him at all in the limited action he has seen, he has been impressive even with the drops. He gets open at will. It is beautiful to watch. His hands will come around. I would have been concerned if he was getting no separation, etc.
If you saw his one catch tonight you would have seen what I mean. He had Revis covering him. AJ put a move on him after the catch that had Revis with a hand on the ground to keep from going down trying to recover. Liked what I saw there.
He's a rookie being thrown balls by a rookie with very little off season work between the two. Not to mention there have only been two preseason games.....one of which was in pretty steady rain.
What are you people expecting?
If you have watched him at all in the limited action he has seen, he has been impressive even with the drops. He gets open at will. It is beautiful to watch. His hands will come around. I would have been concerned if he was getting no separation, etc.
If you saw his one catch tonight you would have seen what I mean. He had Revis covering him. AJ put a move on him after the catch that had Revis with a hand on the ground to keep from going down trying to recover. Liked what I saw there.
doowain
Footballguy
I think you mean overestimate.I just don't get why people feel the need to compare Green to Jones with everything. As if only one can be successful. I happen to think they will both be top notch WRs.
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Unwrittenlaw
Footballguy
History isn't on your side.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I can't believe how people want to call A.J. Green a bust after 2 preseason games. It is easy to see that he has elite skills. As with many rookies, there were some concentration lapses and that is a big reason for things like drops and running the wrong route.
There is a reason the majority of rookie WRs struggle. It has nothing to do with skills and everything to do with the mental part of the game. It is even more magnified this year because of the loss of OTAs.
I say this every year, but it bears repeating...overreacting to preseason games will cost people good players in their drafts.
There is a reason the majority of rookie WRs struggle. It has nothing to do with skills and everything to do with the mental part of the game. It is even more magnified this year because of the loss of OTAs.
I say this every year, but it bears repeating...overreacting to preseason games will cost people good players in their drafts.
doowain
Footballguy
BallparkFrank
Footballguy
Speaking of "overreacting", I have seen ZERO people refer to AJ Green as a bust here.
Andrew Garda
Moderator
Baldwin busted his hand.... does that count?I dont know how you count Green a bust with Dalton throwing to him. Rookie on Rookie crime right there.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
well, i didnt say anything about jones, who i dont really have an opinion on.
BallparkFrank
Footballguy
My apologies. Obviously when "the next great WR since (insert potential hall of famer)" drops a series of very catchable balls he deserves any criticism that comes his way - but "bust" is definitely way off. Developments like this do make a big difference in dynasty league drafts where the talent margin between guys like Ingram, Julio and Green is so slim. I imagine Green has gone from 1.01 to 1.03 on a lot of peoples draft boards in a matter of weeks - fair or not.
it was 4 drops on 5 targets.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
The thing about drops is this: Does he have bad hands, or was it a lack of focus? Green's scouting reports all suggest that he has great hands, so I have to believe it is a lack of concentration. That does not concern me at all going forward. He is a rookie and rookies sometimes lose concentration...and it is magnified by the loss of OTAs. There is nothing wrong with Green's hands.
Shutout
Footballguy
Either way, thats BAD. And the second part is what concerns me the most. Surely, i am not the only person to notice that palyers with a lot of talent seem to go into a funk in Cincy but play a lot better once they leave or before they arrived. I honestly think that people in the league just KNOW how dysfunctional things are in Cincy that they pretty much just end up going through the motions for the last 1/2 - 2/3rds of the seasons.
If I were the Bengals I would play gradkowski. Give the rookie some time, just like they did palmer and don't get him shell-shocked like we ahve seen with david Carr and Joey harrington and those types. I actually thought that, very uncharacteristically, the Bengals made a brilliant move when they didn't rush Palmer. Other than him, they have a pretty horrific record of developing QB talent over the years. I think gradkowski would help the morale on the team by givign them a better chance to be competitive in games and probably would help the AJ Greens, Greshams, Simpsons, etc.
I have to imagine its got to be a pretty bad feeling if I were a highly touted rookie WR that has had so much success and I know that everyone is looking at me as being the next big WR to come to the league and I'm going to be in all these "no chance" games. And on top of that, I know I am going to get compared each and every week by how Julio is doing on a much better team. I know, sounds like nothing and easy to overlook, but a lot of NFL'ers say all the time that this game at this level is 90% from the neck up and if your head isn't in it, its going to be hard to produce all season.
doowain
Footballguy
I feel it's worth noting....AGAIN....that it was the 2nd preseason game. With no OTAs. We've seen less than 4 quarters of football between Dalton and AJG. And this game was played during a very steady rain.
I get that we all love football, but unfortunately that sometimes leads to overanalyzing things. This is one of those times.
On a side note...I've liked what I've seen from Dalton. He doesn't seem to get rattled/frazzled by things. That's more than I could say for Carson the last couple years. I would like to see him go down field more though. Hopefully Gruden has that in the playbook.
I get that we all love football, but unfortunately that sometimes leads to overanalyzing things. This is one of those times.
On a side note...I've liked what I've seen from Dalton. He doesn't seem to get rattled/frazzled by things. That's more than I could say for Carson the last couple years. I would like to see him go down field more though. Hopefully Gruden has that in the playbook.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Nothing I saw in college would indicate that this guy has trouble catching the football, in fact I thought that was his strength. I am happy to hear that he was easily creating separation and that some of those moments were while lined up against Revis.
Ksquared
Footballguy
I am old enough to have watched J Rice when he was a rookie. Guess what, there was a bunch of over reaction about him struggling to catch passes (ie dropped passes) in the preseason and I think in a couple of the early games of the regular season. I think he turned out ok, lol. Don't over react since he seemed to be fine catching the ball in college. If he struggled with his hands in college, then I would be a little more concerned, but that did not seem to be an issue.
i guess the concern is that maybe his hands arent as great as advertised. and since that was his main strength that separated him from the pack, then maybe hes not such a prospect. anyway, bust is indeed an overreaction so lol me.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
Yep. I got him at 1.04 last night. And I was thrilled! "never underestimate the predictability of stupidity". Folks who passed will regret it IMO.
jwb
Footballguy
AJG impressed me. His ability to get open (on Revis, no less) was noticable. Granted, they weren't deep routes or anything, but he clearly has skills.Dropping the ball in a preseason game in the rain as a rookie with no OTA's/etc this year? Not an issue at all.
