Jets RB Barlow Out Of Rotation? (1 Viewer)

[R.White]

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November 30, 2006, 08:28

Jets :: RB

Running Back Rotation Cut To Two, RB Barlow Out

Dave Hutchinson, Newark Star Ledger - [Full Article]

Two days after saying he'll stick with his three-running back committee, HC Eric Mangini has downsized the rotation to two. Rookie RB Leon Washington and RB Cedric Houston are in and veteran RB Kevan Barlow is out, a member of the organization told The Star-Ledger yesterday. The source spoke on the condition of anonymity because of Mangini's policy of not announcing lineup changes. Mangini has chosen to go with Houston over Barlow. Both are tough, physical runners. Washington is the quick, change-of-pace scat back. LINK

 

[my man otis]

Someone should let Mangini scout then. Total waste of a draft pick.

 

[zamboni]

Not too surprising. Barlow has been increasingly phased out since he carried most of the load in the NE game, and Cedric returned.

Houston and Barlow are similar in running style, although Cedric just seems to run harder and break tackles better than Barlow does. And obviously is more effective right now.

 

[Z-Dog]

First off, Mangini is a by-game decision-maker, so I wouldn't assume that this change will last past the GB game. That said, I think Cedric Houston is a high-value pickup right now.

Lots of RBs who miss the early part of the season come back and finish strongly, probably because they aren't banged up and worn down like most of the other players on the field. A fresh big back like Houston can really go on a late-season roll if given the opportunity.

 

[Gatorman]

Many coaches are guilty of this. Barlow will continue to have a "decent" career in the NFL, but his days as a starter are over.

 

[zamboni]

First off, Mangini is a by-game decision-maker, so I wouldn't assume that this change will last past the GB game.

Good clarification. All it takes is one bad game/fumble by Houston, and Barlow could get back in there.It's not like Barlow has played poorly - in fact, he's been better than most of us Jets fans were expecting. Rather, Houston is just fresher and is grinding out the tough yards better right now.

 

[Otis]

Many coaches are guilty of this. Barlow will continue to have a "decent" career in the NFL, but his days as a starter are over.

Did those days ever really start?Classic bust.

 

[rawdog]

Who's the guy to own then moving forward? Houston b/c of the GL potential?

 

[zamboni]

Who's the guy to own then moving forward? Houston b/c of the GL potential?

I would say so. He's much more likely to get the GL duty over Leon.

 

[derek19]

Beautiful news. At least we were able to get something for this loser!!!

Go Niners!!

 

[jurrassic]

Anyone think this makes Houston a decent start vs. GB this week. My other options are Rudi, Chester, and T. Jones. All have bad matchups this week.

 

[NoFBinLA]

It's interesting, if this bears out. In the Leon Washington thread we were talking about how Houston and Barlow were very similiar rushers, while Washington was bulti and plays differently - and if Houston replaced anyone, it would be Barlwo.

Should be interesting.

 

[baronson]

Anyone think this makes Houston a decent start vs. GB this week. My other options are Rudi, Chester, and T. Jones. All have bad matchups this week.

i'm wondering the same, though my options aren't so rosy. i'm looking at rolling with either Fargas or Benson. ya... so.... i'm probably starting him, esp the way Alexander carved up GB last week.

 

[MOAT]

I had Barlow as an emergency back but dropped him for Houston. Anyone that has info on who will get the carries could help a lot in determining if he's worth a start. Everyone seems to get healthy against GB.

Anyone closer to the team (for example watches them) have ideas on who gets the carries?

 

[Isotopes]

Spent my last pickup on Houston....both he and Washington were available. I hope I don't have to use him during the playoffs.

 

[hbkhbk]

Are they holding Barlow back because of that conditional draft pick they traded for him? He did run very well against the Patriots back in week 10, but has been quite ever since...

Wishful Barlow owner.

 

[-jb-]

Houston is questionable this week, no? I would think Leon's the guy...at least for now.

 

[NinerK]

Are they holding Barlow back because of that conditional draft pick they drafted for him? He did run very well against the Patriots back in week 10, but has been quite ever since...Wishful Barlow owner.

You should "wish" that Barlow gets hungry again. SF got lucky that they got ANYTHING for this guy. No heart or desire. Oh and he avoids contact. Oh he also dances behing the line and refuses/can't hit the hole that the play is designed for.Hopefully he gets hungry again. He's a good guy.Oh, and thanks for the draft pick. I think we have SEVEN picks in the first FOUR rounds in 2007. Next year it'll be "Uh Oh.......SF learned how to play DEEEFENSE!!!"

 

[budguy39]

I read at CBS that the jets will squash the 3 man rotation and leave out Barlow! This weekend Washington has a nice matchup to distinguish himself playing GB! Any thoughts or will he be average??

 

[3C's]

There's other threads on the Jets rb rotation including this news, but here's my take (guess). Houston will get the goalline work. Washington and Houston will split carries between the 5's. Washington will be in on passing downs. It's better than the 3 headed mess, but still not great.

 

[JuniorNB]

My feeling on Leon Washington thsi year is as follows:

He will disappear for a few games, then have a good game (which will be worthless to you since he's planted deep on your bench), then you'll start him and Barlow and Houston will get more carries, then you'll put him back on your bench....rinse and repeat.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Cedric Houston may be the beneficiary.

12 touches for Ced vs 6 for LW last week.

Tough to say who will emerge in NYJ,

but I think it may be Ced Houston.

 

[perry147]

Cedric Houston may be the beneficiary.12 touches for Ced vs 6 for LW last week.Tough to say who will emerge in NYJ,but I think it may be Ced Houston.

 

[redman]

We may finally get to see what Houston can do with 20 carries with that team.

 

[zamboni]

We may finally get to see what Houston can do with 20 carries with that team.

I don't think Mangini is quite ready to scrap the formula that's been working, although if there is anyone that could take charge as the lead sled dog, I'd put my money on Houston.

 

[packersfan]

We may finally get to see what Houston can do with 20 carries with that team.

It's looking like he'll be a pretty good bet to get at least 15 against the Packers this week. This is from RotoWorld: The New York Daily News confirms that Kevan Barlow has been weeded out of the Jets' running back rotation.The Newark Star-Ledger reports Cedric Houston took the first-team snaps on Thursday while Leon Washington ran with the twos. Barlow may be inactive Sunday because he doesn't play special teams.Source: New York Daily News

 

[zamboni]

We may finally get to see what Houston can do with 20 carries with that team.

It's looking like he'll be a pretty good bet to get at least 15 against the Packers this week. This is from RotoWorld: The New York Daily News confirms that Kevan Barlow has been weeded out of the Jets' running back rotation.The Newark Star-Ledger reports Cedric Houston took the first-team snaps on Thursday while Leon Washington ran with the twos. Barlow may be inactive Sunday because he doesn't play special teams.Source: New York Daily News

Sounds like another instance of extrapolating a news story. It could very well point to Houston, but Mangini won't give any indication, and he's big on in-game management. Of course, if Barlow is inactive, it's pretty clear it's a dual backfield (at least for one game).

 

[baronson]

i too think that mangini has a "thing" for houston. you'd think with Leon and Barlow getting the job done, that Houston would have faded away after his injury. instead, he's part of the gameplan as soon as he comes back. seems like it was his job all along in some weird way. but i still think Leon will get his share of carries (prob 8-10 or so).

some good info in this thread. if only the Colston threads were as good.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Why the Jets ever traded for Barlow is beyond me. I think they are taking a long look at Houston to see if Leondric Housashington can be their RB combo for the next few years. They have numerous needs on defense, so it would be nice to not have to go RB in the first.

 

[zamboni]

i too think that mangini has a "thing" for houston.

He may now, but he sure didn't seem to early on when the team quickly went out and got Barlow after Curtis wasn't coming back.But times change, so we'll have to see how this plays out.

 

[packersfan]

We may finally get to see what Houston can do with 20 carries with that team.

It's looking like he'll be a pretty good bet to get at least 15 against the Packers this week. This is from RotoWorld: The New York Daily News confirms that Kevan Barlow has been weeded out of the Jets' running back rotation.The Newark Star-Ledger reports Cedric Houston took the first-team snaps on Thursday while Leon Washington ran with the twos. Barlow may be inactive Sunday because he doesn't play special teams.Source: New York Daily News

Sounds like another instance of extrapolating a news story. It could very well point to Houston, but Mangini won't give any indication, and he's big on in-game management. Of course, if Barlow is inactive, it's pretty clear it's a dual backfield (at least for one game).

The big thing to me is that Houston's running with the first-team offense. You don't practice a guy with the first team unless you plan to play him there. Houston has gotten 11 carries each of the past two weeks. Remove Barlow's carries and give those to Houston instead and he's looking like a good bet to get 15+ against the Packers this week. If you're looking for an upside play as a RB3 I think he's got a pretty good chance to do well based on these developments and the matchup.

 

[zamboni]

We may finally get to see what Houston can do with 20 carries with that team.

It's looking like he'll be a pretty good bet to get at least 15 against the Packers this week. This is from RotoWorld: The New York Daily News confirms that Kevan Barlow has been weeded out of the Jets' running back rotation.The Newark Star-Ledger reports Cedric Houston took the first-team snaps on Thursday while Leon Washington ran with the twos. Barlow may be inactive Sunday because he doesn't play special teams.Source: New York Daily News

Sounds like another instance of extrapolating a news story. It could very well point to Houston, but Mangini won't give any indication, and he's big on in-game management. Of course, if Barlow is inactive, it's pretty clear it's a dual backfield (at least for one game).

The big thing to me is that Houston's running with the first-team offense. You don't practice a guy with the first team unless you plan to play him there. Houston has gotten 11 carries each of the past two weeks. Remove Barlow's carries and give those to Houston instead and he's looking like a good bet to get 15+ against the Packers this week. If you're looking for an upside play as a RB3 I think he's got a pretty good chance to do well based on these developments and the matchup.

I don't disagree. I just question it coming from the NY papers. Mangini doesn't like to show his cards, and there could be more to it than what the media is reporting on the surface.

 

[redman]

to see if Leondric Housashington can be their RB combo for the next few years.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

to see if Leondric Housashington can be their RB combo for the next few years.

Inspired by Stephen Colbert's Filliam H. Muffman contraction of Felicity Huffman and William H. Macy (which was actually a clue on Jeopardy!)Back on topic - I really do think that Mangini would rather go into next season with that inside/outside combo than spend a first day pick on an RB. Houston is an underrated talent because of the untreated thyroid condition we've covered a lot on this board. Washington has shown his worth as a change of pace back. They should really be using him more as a pass catcher than they are, he's an excellent receiver. Brad Smith can also throw some wrinkles into the running game. The RB sitch there might not be as bad as it looks. Mangold and Ferguson will also be maturing and opening big holes, so a big time talent at RB may not be necessary.

 

[realamerican85]

to see if Leondric Housashington can be their RB combo for the next few years.

Championship

 

[Bri]

The big thing to me is that Houston's running with the first-team offense. You don't practice a guy with the first team unless you plan to play him there. Houston has gotten 11 carries each of the past two weeks. Remove Barlow's carries and give those to Houston instead and he's looking like a good bet to get 15+ against the Packers this week. If you're looking for an upside play as a RB3 I think he's got a pretty good chance to do well based on these developments and the matchup.

I agree, if Barlow's out then he's the goalline back. Anything more than 20-30 yards and a TD would be sweet. Although Washington doing well is always a scary possibility if you start Houston. Mangini really does seem to play the "hot hand" more in the 2nd half most weeks. Even when Washington was the hot hand, Barlow got the TDs so there's a little bit of cushion there. I don't expect the Jets to get 40 points this week but they should be able to move the ball against the Packers D. Those rookie LBers are playing well but they need help.

 

[packersfan]

The big thing to me is that Houston's running with the first-team offense. You don't practice a guy with the first team unless you plan to play him there. Houston has gotten 11 carries each of the past two weeks. Remove Barlow's carries and give those to Houston instead and he's looking like a good bet to get 15+ against the Packers this week. If you're looking for an upside play as a RB3 I think he's got a pretty good chance to do well based on these developments and the matchup.

I agree, if Barlow's out then he's the goalline back. Anything more than 20-30 yards and a TD would be sweet. Although Washington doing well is always a scary possibility if you start Houston. Mangini really does seem to play the "hot hand" more in the 2nd half most weeks. Even when Washington was the hot hand, Barlow got the TDs so there's a little bit of cushion there. I don't expect the Jets to get 40 points this week but they should be able to move the ball against the Packers D. Those rookie LBers are playing well but they need help.

Speed hasn't been a major issue against the Green Bay run defense, but they can struggle with power. This matchup reminds me of the Week 2 game against the Saints when the Packers did an excellent job shutting down Bush but struggled with McAllister. I don't think the Jets as a whole are as good as New Orleans nor am I saying Houston and Washington are as good as McAllister and Bush, but I could see a similar development in Washington not having a lot of success but Houston doing well or at least respectably. If Houston is the goal-line RB he has a good shot to score this week because the Jets should be able to move the ball through the air at least and get into the Red Zone.

 

[War Eagle]

The Newark Star-Ledger reports Cedric Houston took the first-team snaps on Thursday while Leon Washington ran with the twos.

I'm starting Houston over TJ this week and fully expect 15-20 carries for 75-100 yards and a TD.

 

[Bri]

The big thing to me is that Houston's running with the first-team offense. You don't practice a guy with the first team unless you plan to play him there. Houston has gotten 11 carries each of the past two weeks. Remove Barlow's carries and give those to Houston instead and he's looking like a good bet to get 15+ against the Packers this week. If you're looking for an upside play as a RB3 I think he's got a pretty good chance to do well based on these developments and the matchup.

I agree, if Barlow's out then he's the goalline back. Anything more than 20-30 yards and a TD would be sweet. Although Washington doing well is always a scary possibility if you start Houston. Mangini really does seem to play the "hot hand" more in the 2nd half most weeks. Even when Washington was the hot hand, Barlow got the TDs so there's a little bit of cushion there. I don't expect the Jets to get 40 points this week but they should be able to move the ball against the Packers D. Those rookie LBers are playing well but they need help.

Speed hasn't been a major issue against the Green Bay run defense, but they can struggle with power. This matchup reminds me of the Week 2 game against the Saints when the Packers did an excellent job shutting down Bush but struggled with McAllister. I don't think the Jets as a whole are as good as New Orleans nor am I saying Houston and Washington are as good as McAllister and Bush, but I could see a similar development in Washington not having a lot of success but Houston doing well or at least respectably. If Houston is the goal-line RB he has a good shot to score this week because the Jets should be able to move the ball through the air at least and get into the Red Zone.

That's probably your boy Hawk getting to the outside so quick.

 

[packersfan]

The big thing to me is that Houston's running with the first-team offense. You don't practice a guy with the first team unless you plan to play him there. Houston has gotten 11 carries each of the past two weeks. Remove Barlow's carries and give those to Houston instead and he's looking like a good bet to get 15+ against the Packers this week. If you're looking for an upside play as a RB3 I think he's got a pretty good chance to do well based on these developments and the matchup.

I agree, if Barlow's out then he's the goalline back. Anything more than 20-30 yards and a TD would be sweet. Although Washington doing well is always a scary possibility if you start Houston. Mangini really does seem to play the "hot hand" more in the 2nd half most weeks. Even when Washington was the hot hand, Barlow got the TDs so there's a little bit of cushion there. I don't expect the Jets to get 40 points this week but they should be able to move the ball against the Packers D. Those rookie LBers are playing well but they need help.

Speed hasn't been a major issue against the Green Bay run defense, but they can struggle with power. This matchup reminds me of the Week 2 game against the Saints when the Packers did an excellent job shutting down Bush but struggled with McAllister. I don't think the Jets as a whole are as good as New Orleans nor am I saying Houston and Washington are as good as McAllister and Bush, but I could see a similar development in Washington not having a lot of success but Houston doing well or at least respectably. If Houston is the goal-line RB he has a good shot to score this week because the Jets should be able to move the ball through the air at least and get into the Red Zone.

That's probably your boy Hawk getting to the outside so quick.

Yup. That's been a big part of it. Barnett as well. And even though he's listed as questionable Barnett is expected to play this week.

 

[Traders2001]

Who's the guy to own then moving forward? Houston b/c of the GL potential?

I would say so. He's much more likely to get the GL duty over Leon.

I say he will be the starter ( Houston i am talking about ) with Washington as a 3rd down back and 2 series a game .He is a much better all around Rb then Washington no doubt .

 

[Traders2001]

The Newark Star-Ledger reports Cedric Houston took the first-team snaps on Thursday while Leon Washington ran with the twos.I'm starting Houston over TJ this week and fully expect 15-20 carries for 75-100 yards and a TD.

 

[taz]

Going with Houston over Bush this week in a must-win game (playoff berth on the line).

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Yet another reason to like Houston's fantasy prospects for the rest of the year - he'll be running on fresh legs (hopefully sound knee too) against defenses that have a lot more mileage on their legs this year.

This is also a reason that any team lucky enough to make it to the playoffs with Shaun Alexander should have a good chance of winning their fantasy championship.

 

[packersfan]

I think Houston is a very nice sleeper pick this week as a RB3. But after this week his schedule isn't the greatest:

Week 14: vs. Buffalo

Week 15: at Minnesota

Week 16: at Miami

Week 17: vs. Oakland

If your league goes through Week 17, he has three good matchups in the next five if he remains the starter. If it doesn't, he has two this week and next and then two pretty brutal matchups to close out the season. It'll be tough to start him in any flex league in Weeks 15 and 16 in my opinion unless you're just hoping for 40-50 yards and a slim shot at a TD.

But again, I do like him a lot this week against the Packers and he's looking real good next week against Buffalo too if he's the starter.

 

[[scooter]]

KFFL:

Bob McGinn, of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, reports New York Jets RB Cedric Houston appears to be the starter for Week 13 and will likely alternate with RB Leon Washington.

All aboard!

 

[War Eagle]

This is also a reason that any team lucky enough to make it to the playoffs with Shaun Alexander should have a good chance of winning their fantasy championship.

That would be me!

 

[War Eagle]

' date='Dec 2 2006, 03:31 PM' post='5997156']

KFFL:

Bob McGinn, of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, reports New York Jets RB Cedric Houston appears to be the starter for Week 13 and will likely alternate with RB Leon Washington.

All aboard!

Rotoworld:The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports running back Cedric Houston is likely to start for the Jets on Sunday at Green Bay.

The Journal-Sentinel does a good job of getting the inside track on opponents' situations so it's a reliable source. Houston will give way to Leon Washington on third downs but has a good chance to score at Lambeau on Sunday, as his forte is in short-yardage situations.

Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

 

[Kiddnets]

Benching Thomas Jones vs Minny and going with Ced Houston - desperate times call for desperate measures. I'm a big Jets fan and can see Houston gettin a shot to be the guy with Leon the change of pace back.

 

[Chickenwang]

thinking about starting him over Kevin JOnes or MJD... non ppr league.

Wish I knew he was starting before Thursday, or I would have left Jamal on the bench