Jim Irsay's recent comment about Peyton should make us think ... (1 Viewer)

[Chaka]

He makes about $12 mil/year in endorsements.

Net worth in the neighborhood of $110 mil

 

[Chaka]

Link

 

[Leonidas]

God forbid a QB's completion % fall all the way down to 63% when they are exclusively facing playoff caliber opponents.

 

[Concept Coop]

Manning is a stud and without question earns his money but has he ever given a home team discount?

If he was really all about championships he would have taken less cash in Indy to free up cash to build a better team around him. But it seems like he is really about cashing in as much as possible (how much does he make in endorsements?) and putting up his pinball numbers so he gets into the record books and hoping that he falls ### backwards into a season that allows his team to win the Super Bowl.

He's one of the best of all time on the field but I'm not sure how much of a championship guy he really is.

Is this schtick?

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Using www.pro-football-reference.com as a reference for statistics, you'll find the following data for QB's who have played in the NFL Playoffs. This comprehensive list only includes QB's where GameLogs were present. So guys like Otto Graham and Sid Luckman were left out just because of the nature of compiling their stats manually.

I surveyed a total of 58 QB's who started at least 3 games in the Playoffs. In alphabetical order you'll see a listing below with a summary of how they performed in the Playoffs compared with the regular season. Simply put a B is Better, an E is Even, and a W is Worse. I compared Completion %, Quarterback Rating, Y/A, Y/C and TD/INT ratio

27 out of 58 QB's did worse

18 out of 58 QB's did the same

13 out 58 QB's did better

Troy Aikman - B

Ken Anderson - B

Drew Bledsoe - W

Terry Bradshaw - B

Drew Brees - B

John Brodie - W

Mark Brunell - W

Kerry Collins - E

Randall Cunningham - W

Jay Cutler - E

Len Dawson - W

Jake Delhomme - E

Trent Dilfer - E

John Elway - E

Boomer Esiason - W

Brett Favre - E

Joe Ferguson - W

Vince Ferragamo - W

Joe Flacco - E

Dan Fouts - W

Rich Gannon - E

Bob Griese - W

Rex Grossman - E

Matt Hasselbeck - E

Ron Jaworski - W

Brad Johnson - W

Colin Kaepernick - B

Jim Kelly - W

Billy Kilmer - E

Daryle Larmonica - E

Eli Manning - B

Peyton Manning - W

Dan Marino - W

Jim McMahon - E

Donovan McNabb - W

Steve McNair - W

Joe Montana - E

Joe Namath - W

Dan Pastorini - B

Jake Plummer - E

Jim Plunkett - B

Philip Rivers - W

Aaron Rodgers - E

Tony Romo - W

Matt Ryan - W

Mark Rypien - W

Mark Sanchez - B

Phil Simms - E

Ken Stabler - B

Bart Starr - B

Roger Staubach - W

Fran Tarkenton - W

Joe Theismann - B

Johnny Unitas - W

Michael Vick - E

Kurt Warner - B

Doug Williams - W

Steve Young - W

As I said earlier, I am not trying to discounting Peyton's contribution to either the NFL, or his team [or any other HofF listed above ...] There is no denying the fact that most guys do not perform as well in the Playoffs [78% did the same or worse than their regular season performance]. This supports several of the arguments above. This also supports the fact that some actually do perform better, and they do deserve acknowledgement over their peers. Congratulations to the minority who rose to the occasion when the pressure was on!

You could illustrate this better by finding the pooled differences, then see where Manning's difference compares to the pool.

 

[TheFanatic]

Manning is a stud and without question earns his money but has he ever given a home team discount?

If he was really all about championships he would have taken less cash in Indy to free up cash to build a better team around him. But it seems like he is really about cashing in as much as possible (how much does he make in endorsements?) and putting up his pinball numbers so he gets into the record books and hoping that he falls ### backwards into a season that allows his team to win the Super Bowl.

He's one of the best of all time on the field but I'm not sure how much of a championship guy he really is.

Is this schtick?

I think there is something to it. Brady just took a pay cut to help the Patriots. Can you picture Manning ever doing that?

 

[dgreen]

If he was really all about championships he would have taken less cash in Indy to free up cash to build a better team around him.

That wouldn't necessarily make him "all about championships". It would make him "all about Indy", though.

 

[Adam Harstad]

Manning is a stud and without question earns his money but has he ever given a home team discount?

If he was really all about championships he would have taken less cash in Indy to free up cash to build a better team around him. But it seems like he is really about cashing in as much as possible (how much does he make in endorsements?) and putting up his pinball numbers so he gets into the record books and hoping that he falls ### backwards into a season that allows his team to win the Super Bowl.

He's one of the best of all time on the field but I'm not sure how much of a championship guy he really is.

Is this schtick?

I think there is something to it. Brady just took a pay cut to help the Patriots. Can you picture Manning ever doing that?

Tom Brady could PAY the New England Patriots $20 million a year for the right to play football, and he'd still have a higher annual household income than Peyton Manning. Gisele makes an estimated $45 million a year and is on track to become the world's first modeling billionaire. Not really the fairest of comparisons, here.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Manning is a stud and without question earns his money but has he ever given a home team discount?

If he was really all about championships he would have taken less cash in Indy to free up cash to build a better team around him. But it seems like he is really about cashing in as much as possible (how much does he make in endorsements?) and putting up his pinball numbers so he gets into the record books and hoping that he falls ### backwards into a season that allows his team to win the Super Bowl.

He's one of the best of all time on the field but I'm not sure how much of a championship guy he really is.

Is this schtick?

I think there is something to it. Brady just took a pay cut to help the Patriots. Can you picture Manning ever doing that?

Tom Brady could PAY the New England Patriots $20 million a year for the right to play football, and he'd still have a higher annual household income than Peyton Manning. Gisele makes an estimated $45 million a year and is on track to become the world's first modeling billionaire. Not really the fairest of comparisons, here.

Uhhh Peyton owns 10 Papa John's.

 

[habsfan]

Manning is a stud and without question earns his money but has he ever given a home team discount?

If he was really all about championships he would have taken less cash in Indy to free up cash to build a better team around him. But it seems like he is really about cashing in as much as possible (how much does he make in endorsements?) and putting up his pinball numbers so he gets into the record books and hoping that he falls ### backwards into a season that allows his team to win the Super Bowl.

He's one of the best of all time on the field but I'm not sure how much of a championship guy he really is.

Is this schtick?

I think there is something to it. Brady just took a pay cut to help the Patriots. Can you picture Manning ever doing that?

I don't know if I can or can't but the circumstances are so different, it doesn't really matter. I keep hearing how difficult the Manning/Luck decision was. It wasn't difficult at all. The consequences of it were but the decision itself was easy.

I speculate that knowing what was going to happen, Manning went to a "win now" team and got paid. Under those exact circumstances, can you see Brady not doing that?

 

[Penguin]

Regarding the statistics you posted, couldn't the slight dip in numbers across the board also be attributed to the fact that he's playing against playoff caliber teams in the playoffs and not every game in the regular season?

This is the first thing that popped into my mind