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Job interview advice.....Drug screen negative Update on page 16 (1 Viewer)

How are you going to prove how hard of a worker you are?  Saying without proof is silly.  Really have to show and doesn't look good if you are currently unemployed.

There can be good reasons to not go to college but will need to explain that as well.

 
Congrats(?) To the folks sniffing this out as an insurance job early on.

Sounds like they are one of those companies that gets you to call friends and family and set up meetings for ways you can save them money.  If anyone bites, you can then go through the script and at the end say "look, we can save you $100 a month.  Now don't you think you need some life insurance for $50 a month?"

 
RokNRole said:
For the sake of arguement

yes I do know and it varies by person. Less so with follicle but no company is going to do a follicle test for an office job.
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Somebody in my family is a Lab Tech that works in a lab where they do substance abuse testing on urine and blood samples. She laughs at the people that submit samples that clearly show somebody has drank excessive amounts of water to "beat the test". They also can spot the "test cheat" substances sold in head shops. But, I'm sure you know more about it.

 
RokNRole said:
I'm guessing you don't realize I'm not talking about weed
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Didn't you state you would be switching from weed to coke? Either way, I think you are underestimating how long you can still test positive after you use.

But, your methods have put you on the road to success, so keep up the good work.  :thumbup:

 
cincredfan said:
How are you going to prove how hard of a worker you are?  Saying without proof is silly.  Really have to show and doesn't look good if you are currently unemployed.

There can be good reasons to not go to college but will need to explain that as well.
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I have references that can vouch for my work ethic.

 
SpurrierisisGod said:
Congrats(?) To the folks sniffing this out as an insurance job early on.

Sounds like they are one of those companies that gets you to call friends and family and set up meetings for ways you can save them money.  If anyone bites, you can then go through the script and at the end say "look, we can save you $100 a month.  Now don't you think you need some life insurance for $50 a month?"
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What's the usual base salary for something like that?

 
After crunching the numbers I just can't swing a suit or sport jacket at the moment. The only way is if I'm able to sell some of the musical instruments I have up for sale but nobody has bit on my ads in over a week.

I have 2 options. I could wear the blue Lacoste's, khakis and a blue button up with no tie 

or

i could get a cheapo white shirt and tie from Walmart to go with my black slacks but then the only matching shoes I have are black dock martens

if neither is good enough for them and they don't even see the potential I have then there is nothing I can do.

what would be the best course of action?

 
-OZ- said:
Fwiw my wife, with no working experience outside the home was called in for a similar (sounds similar from what you wrote anyway) position, or so they said.  Turned out to be a sales pitch for an almost exclusively commission-sales job.  She, without having worked in over a decade, was easily the most put together person there.  She declined the "job". 

Hopefully this isn't that.  If it's a decent job, be upfront and honest about your experience.  They will figure it out if you're not.  But emphasize your motivation. 

Business appropriate, imo anyway means suit. Honestly if you can't afford it they may not want you.  

One of my interviews, which job I declined, was as a "financial advisor" but really selling whole life was how they make most of their commission.  Couldn't do it, I won't work somewhere where I'm encouraged to push a specific product that might not be right for the client.  
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I remember in the far reaches of my back history an experience like this, could happen. But imo every interview was a step forward and learning experience. Be prepared, look good, go through the exercise and you will be readier when the real thing hits.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
I remember in the far reaches of my back history an experience like this, could happen. But imo every interview was a step forward and learning experience. Be prepared, look good, go through the exercise and you will be readier when the real thing hits.
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I think the best I could do is pick up a white shirt and tie to go with my black slacks and boots.

do you think that would be adequate for "business professional" attire?

i could always explain that my previous career was business casual attire and I do not own a full suit

 
RokNRole said:
I think the best I could do is pick up a white shirt and tie to go with my black slacks and boots.

do you think that would be adequate for "business professional" attire?

i could always explain that my previous career was business casual attire and I do not own a full suit
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If you iron the shirt, yes.

I think you ultimately need to get yourself a 80-100$ suit to get yourself in gear, but yeah given the job description you can probably swing it.

But get a suit.

 
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Commence eye gouging. Are you serious?

Edit: Never mind, carry on. Light blue Lacoste shoes will look marvelous with the jacket and khakis. 

 
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@RokNRole - you need a pair of loafers. I prefer brown w khakis, but if want to go black fine. Check out your local WalMart/TJMaxx/Ross/Marshalls or thrift shop. Stop w the blue Lacoste....it's not interview appropriate. 

 
Quint said:
@RokNRole - you need a pair of loafers. I prefer brown w khakis, but if want to go black fine. Check out your local WalMart/TJMaxx/Ross/Marshalls or thrift shop. Stop w the blue Lacoste....it's not interview appropriate. 
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If I went with brown shoes do I need a brown jacket?

 
Quint said:
No. Navy blue blazer/sport coat is fine. Works w chinos, light blue or white shirt too. 

Belt = matches shoes  
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I only have a black/brown reversible belt

would that work? Do they make light blue belts?

edit- just released you meant for the brown shoes.

i was just looking at Burlington coat factory website. There is one down the block and they seem to have some great deals on 2 piece suits.

if I can find a way to get a blue or grey suit from them can I wear my baby blue button down underneath with appropriate footwear?

is a tie necessary if I'm wearing a 2 piece suit? I'm not even sure I can wear a tie because I have a very thick neck from a lifetime of head banging and there is no way I could button the collar comfortably

 
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Just tried on my blue shirt and a can't get the top button fastened without being noticeably choked.

tie necessary?

 
RokNRole said:
I only have a black/brown reversible belt

would that work? Do they make light blue belts?
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This has gotta be schtick, right? 

I'll lay it out for you: 

Black belt = black shoes

Brown belt = brown shoes

blue Lacoste = don't wear to interview 

Look, I get $$$ is tight. I've been there. Tomorrow is Sat, interview is Tue. That's 3 full days to check out various retail establishments and find some loafers (for this interview and beyond). If you absolutely cannot find some w/in your budget, then I guess you gotta strap the Blue on.

And remember , this is an Interview, and that means first impressions. When you land a job, maybe the workplace attire is jeans + tshirts. That's when you bust out the Lacoste. 

 
RokNRole said:
http://www.burlingtoncoatfactory.com/burlingtoncoatfactory/Men/Suits-Suit-Separates/Suit-Separates/Modern-Fit-Grey-Suit-Collection-ModernFitGreySuitCollectionset.aspx?h=57418,57429

ive got my eye on that one and I have the same shirt as in the pic. Would black shoes go with this? What color tie would you recommend?

thanks for the heads up on collar extenders. I didn't know those existed
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Black shoes are fine w grey. 

Look for a tie that's close to the pic, something w grey+black 

 
RokNRole said:
Think I can put this together for $200 max?
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Yes. Definitely. 

Suit = $90 (if I read that link right)

shoes = $50 (and you can probably find them for less) 

tie =$15 (at most) 

you've got shirt and belt. assuming socks are not an issue. 

After you find a gig that pays on a regular basis, you can upgrade as necessary. You're just looking to make a good 1st impression for this interview, and the ones that follow. 

 
Quint said:
Yes. Definitely. 

Suit = $90 (if I read that link right)

shoes = $50 (and you can probably find them for less) 

tie =$15 (at most) 

you've got shirt and belt. assuming socks are not an issue. 

After you find a gig that pays on a regular basis, you can upgrade as necessary. You're just looking to make a good 1st impression for this interview, and the ones that follow. 
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I have a few instruments I could probably pawn to make 2 c-notes quickly if needed. I think Burlington is the way to go. I will update once I have put something together.

i also looked at some estimators and it looks like I can get at least $700 for a title loan on my car. Does anyone have experience with title loans? Is it a scam like pay day loans?

 
$90 just for the jacket in that link. $130 for the 2 piece suit. Looks like Burlington has 2 piece suits for $100 or less that aren't as nice if I have to go that route

 
There is a Nordstrom Rack in Arlington, they have had some well priced deals in the past. Worst case scenario is you can try on some different sizes.  

Consider getting a shirt that you can button the collar.  

For shoes, consider a burgundy loafer. The Cole Haan Pinch Tassel in Oxblood has been my go to shoe for 12 years. I have 4 pairs and rotate them through and one pair is usually at the cobbler.  They work well with navy and gray suits, as well as a khaki/navy blazer combo. 

Best of luck. 

 
In all seriousness this company put an employment add on Craigslist. They really aren't expecting much. 

 
Good News

A)  If you dress too nice, they won't hire you because you think you are too good for the job.

Bad News

B)  Accounts Manager - probably doesn't mean what you think.  My guess is some kind of cold calling, maybe to existing clients.  If you don't produce after a few months, they'll let you go.  They probably hire and fire a lot of people because cold calling is not easy.

C)  It probably pays "up to 60K" meaning you have to hit some unlikely performance goals to get to 60K.

 
-OZ- said:
Fwiw my wife, with no working experience outside the home was called in for a similar (sounds similar from what you wrote anyway) position, or so they said.  Turned out to be a sales pitch for an almost exclusively commission-sales job.  She, without having worked in over a decade, was easily the most put together person there.  She declined the "job". 

Hopefully this isn't that.  If it's a decent job, be upfront and honest about your experience.  They will figure it out if you're not.  But emphasize your motivation. 

Business appropriate, imo anyway means suit. Honestly if you can't afford it they may not want you.  

One of my interviews, which job I declined, was as a "financial advisor" but really selling whole life was how they make most of their commission.  Couldn't do it, I won't work somewhere where I'm encouraged to push a specific product that might not be right for the client.  
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You guys all realize that this is exactly what this is. 

RnR, you need the clothes for interviews anyhow, but don't go in expecting anything but the above. 

 
RokNRole said:
I only have a black/brown reversible belt

would that work? Do they make light blue belts?

edit- just released you meant for the brown shoes.

i was just looking at Burlington coat factory website. There is one down the block and they seem to have some great deals on 2 piece suits.

if I can find a way to get a blue or grey suit from them can I wear my baby blue button down underneath with appropriate footwear?

is a tie necessary if I'm wearing a 2 piece suit? I'm not even sure I can wear a tie because I have a very thick neck from a lifetime of head banging and there is no way I could button the collar comfortably
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:lmao:  Sometimes you just go too far with this shtick. You sell the genius IQ plus the naivete', but then you up the ante too much and overplay your hand. Shirts come with different collar sizes, who knew?

 
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