Joe Flacco: I'm sold on him, let's talk about potential teams. (1 Viewer)

[Ministry of Pain]

Flacco to me is a very interesting player in the draft this year. I have no doubt he will be taken within the 1st couple of rounds of the draft but I also think there is a good chance he will be gone in the 2nd half of the 1st round.

He has the size, 6 foot 6, 230+ lbs, rocket arm. The things they speak of that are used against him are things like "He didn't try to fight Palco in pitt for the starting QB"...I think he saw Dave Wanndstedt coming into town and got out while the gettin was good. He wnet to a decent I-AA where he was showcased. He threw for over 4,000 yds and had 23 TD vs 5 Int with a 63% completion rate over his alst 2 seasons.

What I potentially like about Flacco is the idea a team that is already fairly strong will have an opp to pick him up. I went ahead and listed some teams that might want to draft him.

1.14 Chicago Bears: If Ryan and Brohm are gone already, the Bears might reach a bit...it's not like they haven't in the past.

1.17 Minnesota Vikings: makes so much sense here. He might not have to start right away but then again he could see some real playing time as a rookie. he would have one of the best OL in football blocking in front of him, plus one of the most gifted RB tandems in the league, a decent set of WR now...this would be a great place for him to land. I don't think he would be in the 2nd round if the Vikes wanted to try and get him there.

1.20 Tampa Bay: The trading for Griese makes me think they would never pick him in the 1st round but I think he would do very well in Tampa long term.

1.25 Seattle: Hasselbeck isn't getting any younger

2nd round...teams in the top of the 2nd with a need.

2.01 Miami Dolphins: I doubt they would take him but they could use another good young arm.

2.03 Atlanta Falcons: If they passed on QB int he 1st round, he would be an obvious choice here.

2.04 Kansas City: Who is their starting QB exactly?

2.07 Baltimore: Also may opt to pass on Ryan and Brohm in the 1st round

2.12 Carolina Panthers: Cannot like what they have at QB behind Delhomme who is still pretty iffy in my book. Big deal he can grip a football at this point.

The one thing I don't like about Flacco is his mobility but he reminds me a lot of Big Ben and he sure has turned out to be pretty good. He also played at a slightly less than top notch program in Miami of Ohio...just saying.

 

[T Man]

I do not think Flacco will be drafted in round one (unless it is late in the round by a team moving up from Round 2 to get him). I personally think he gets drafted in the middle of Round 2.

However, I do agree that ATL, KC, BALT and CAR as solid possibilities earlier in Round 2 -- although it depends on if they prefer Henne.

 

[Sweet Love]

Also, I think it depends on what happens to Ryan and Brohm. If Ryan falls to the 9-14 range and Brohm goes late first (instead of mid to late first), I could see teams staying put and taking the what comes to them (either Henne or Flacco) and that could last until the late 2nd round before he is chosen.

 

[cha-ching]

I Concur. The Big Ben comparison is legit!

He is a big favorite on the ATL board. The feeling is that we should spend one of our early 2nd rounders on him.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I could see the Jets grabbing him in the second.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

He's much more clumsy on the run than Big Ben, and he can't shed and duck rushers the way Big Ben can - I dont mind that Flacco left Pitt because he saw that Palko was not going to be unseated, but why not go to another DI program?

But this is not a thread to debate Flacco. I definitely think that a team that can develop him for 2 years is a better destination for him - Brohm, Ryan, and Henne are more NFL ready. I think you nailed it in the cluster of teams in the early 2nd that need a QB - although someone could trade up into the late 1st to grab him.

 

[Kiddnets]

I could see the Jets grabbing him in the second.

I read the Jets like him a lot - wouldn't shock me if they take him in the 2nd with DMC in the 1st. Rebuild the offense and let KC/Chad battle it this year with Flacco taking over in 2009.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

I see him as a slow decision making more mobile version of Andrew Walter and pray the Bears don't take him. I see him going Round 2.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I see him as a slow decision making more mobile version of Andrew Walter and pray the Bears don't take him. I see him going Round 2.

In all seriousness, how many games have you watched him play? I'm betting none if you made those comments. I've seen ALL his games and, as a Bears fan, I pray to Jeebus we get him in the second.Trust me, he's the goods. If he didn't play for Delaware, he'd be a top 10 pick....

 

[Killerclown]

The Pack may consider him in the late 1st for their back up QB spot.

 

[Football_Guy]

Am I the only person who thinks Flacco will be taken over Brohm?

I've watched a good amount of Flacco film and he seems ridiculously accurate both in the pocket and while moving. He obviously has a huge arm. It is hard to say how well he reads defenses since it seemed like most of the coverages were pretty simple, but it seems like he looks through his progression well.

Brohm looks less fluid and much worse while moving/under pressure.

Am I all alone here?

 

[LBH]

I could see the Jets grabbing him in the second.

I hope not. Lets see what Clemens can do behind a much improved supporting cast. I think the Jets will look at WR or CB in the 2nd if they dont make any trades

 

[Donnybrook]

He has the size, 6 foot 6, 230+ lbs, rocket arm.

I'm curious why no one has made the comparison to Matt Schaub who is 6 foot 5, 237 lbs, strong arm etc.

 

[a_rackowski]

He's much more clumsy on the run than Big Ben, and he can't shed and duck rushers the way Big Ben can - I dont mind that Flacco left Pitt because he saw that Palko was not going to be unseated, but why not go to another DI program? But this is not a thread to debate Flacco. I definitely think that a team that can develop him for 2 years is a better destination for him - Brohm, Ryan, and Henne are more NFL ready. I think you nailed it in the cluster of teams in the early 2nd that need a QB - although someone could trade up into the late 1st to grab him.

Because - with due respect had he transferred to another D1 program wouldnt he have had to sit out of football for a year?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

He's much more clumsy on the run than Big Ben, and he can't shed and duck rushers the way Big Ben can - I dont mind that Flacco left Pitt because he saw that Palko was not going to be unseated, but why not go to another DI program? But this is not a thread to debate Flacco. I definitely think that a team that can develop him for 2 years is a better destination for him - Brohm, Ryan, and Henne are more NFL ready. I think you nailed it in the cluster of teams in the early 2nd that need a QB - although someone could trade up into the late 1st to grab him.

Because - with due respect had he transferred to another D1 program wouldnt he have had to sit out of football for a year?

He sat out 2005 so I think he still had to wait a year after the transfer. But he was assured he would start.

 

[Sabertooth]

I think Green Bay could be one of those looking at him in the second. They are razor thin at QB and Rodgers isn't known for his durability. It doesn't appear that Thompson is going to sign a vet before the draft, so I'd think the Packers are looking for a QB on day 1.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Ravens, Round 2.

 

[Lash]

Atlanta, round two

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Miami Herald Blurb

FLORIDA SPORTS BUZZ

Lots of options for Dolphins at No. 32

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By BARRY JACKSON

bjackson@MiamiHerald.com

With Jake Long set as the Dolphins' No. 1 pick, here's a look at scenarios for Miami's selection at No. 32, with several draftniks weighing in:

• Defensive front seven: ESPN's Mel Kiper advocates Miami taking Southern Cal end Lawrence Jackson or Arkansas tackle Marcus Harrison to open the second round (the pick is No. 32 because New England forfeited its first-rounder). Dolphins outside linebackers coach Jim Reid had Jackson go through linebacker drills after USC's pro day. Harrison might not be a good fit because of character issues and past knee problems.

Two draft analysts ( Mike Mayock, John Murphy) cite Purdue linebacker Cliff Avril as a good option at No. 32, though the Dolphins never brought him to Davie and some analysts believe he shouldn't go that high. Miami also never brought in Oklahoma's Curtis Lofton, who's a bit shorter (6-0) than this regime's prototype linebacker.

Among players the Dolphins brought in for visits, Penn State's Dan Connor lacks ideal bulk at 231 pounds but played well at inside linebacker as a senior. And Mayock says Auburn's Quentin Groves would make sense at No. 32 -- the Dolphins like his potential as an outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense, though Kiper calls him more of a mid-to-late second rounder. (Miami also picks at No. 57.)

Miami has shown interest in Auburn defensive tackle Pat Sims (who visited) but ''32 is too high for him,'' said draft analyst Frank Coyle, a consultant for NFL teams. One wild card is UM defensive end Calais Campbell, should he fall out of Round 1.

• Quarterback: If the Dolphins take Delaware's Joe Flacco, it would be surprising to people close to Flacco and a classic case of subterfuge considering, unlike Michigan's Chad Henne, Miami never gave Flacco a private workout or reached out to him or his agent in the past two months. The Dolphins have told NFL people they like Henne. But nothing can be ruled out with a regime that isn't above setting smoke screens, and Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland -- when asked Tuesday whether he likes Flacco -- said he did. Kiper expects a team to trade into the first round for Flacco.

• Cornerback: This would be an option at No. 32, but Sporting News draft analyst/ex-Browns scout Russ Lande said waiting until later makes sense: ``There will be a lot of good corners taken in the third or fourth rounds who will make it as starters.''

Coyle said Virginia Tech's Brandon Flowers, Kansas' Aqib Talib (who could drop because of reported marijuana use) and Arizona's Antoine Cason would be worth considering at No. 32. Mayock also mentioned Auburn's Patrick Lee and Indiana's Tracy Porter. None of those five were scheduled to visit Miami, nor was Eastern Kentucky's Antwaun Molden, whom Mayock said would be a great value with the first pick of Round 3. (Obviously, Miami has interest in some players who weren't invited for visits.)

• Elsewhere: Of the top tight ends, the only one the Dolphins invited to Davie was Purdue's Dustin Keller, a skilled pass-catcher who could be available at No. 32. Kiper, incidentally, said he could see Miami picking Tennessee tight end Brad Cottam to open Round 3. . . .

Michigan receiver Mario Manningham's reported marijuana use and character issues would be a red flag for this Dolphins regime, but some draftniks see Oklahoma's Malcolm Kelly or Indiana's James Hardy also possibly available at No. 32. . . . Lande said no guards are projected for that range of 32. . . . With nine safeties on the roster, it would be somewhat surprising if the Dolphins take one at No. 32 even if Kenny Phillips slips out of Round 1.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I think we're going to be very surprised on how quickly the QB's go. Ryan, Flacco, Henne and Brohm can all be gone by 2.5 or so......

 

[Jason Wood]

If I had to guess, I would say Baltimore goes with Henne, Ryan is long gone and it comes down to Brohm or Flacco to the Falcons at some point either in the late 1st or early 2nd.

You have to think the Chiefs, Bears and Lions will look hard at a QB, but who knows if any of them like Flacco enough to take him in the 2nd.

 

[sholditch]

I see him as a slow decision making more mobile version of Andrew Walter and pray the Bears don't take him. I see him going Round 2.

In all seriousness, how many games have you watched him play? I'm betting none if you made those comments. I've seen ALL his games and, as a Bears fan, I pray to Jeebus we get him in the second.Trust me, he's the goods. If he didn't play for Delaware, he'd be a top 10 pick....

I hope.He is my QB target if we take one in round 2. If we don't take one there, I seriously hope we give Andre Woodson a chance. He'll probably be available in the 4th and his college numbers compare favorably to the other top prospects (plus he played against SEC defenses all year). I see him as similar to Jason Campbell.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I see him as a slow decision making more mobile version of Andrew Walter and pray the Bears don't take him. I see him going Round 2.

In all seriousness, how many games have you watched him play? I'm betting none if you made those comments. I've seen ALL his games and, as a Bears fan, I pray to Jeebus we get him in the second.Trust me, he's the goods. If he didn't play for Delaware, he'd be a top 10 pick....

I hope.He is my QB target if we take one in round 2. If we don't take one there, I seriously hope we give Andre Woodson a chance. He'll probably be available in the 4th and his college numbers compare favorably to the other top prospects (plus he played against SEC defenses all year). I see him as similar to Jason Campbell.

Campbell is an interesting comparison, but Flacco has deceptive mobility.I look at him like a Big Ben.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Pat. Rick. Ram. Sey.

 

[Jason Wood]

I see him as a slow decision making more mobile version of Andrew Walter and pray the Bears don't take him. I see him going Round 2.

In all seriousness, how many games have you watched him play? I'm betting none if you made those comments. I've seen ALL his games and, as a Bears fan, I pray to Jeebus we get him in the second.Trust me, he's the goods. If he didn't play for Delaware, he'd be a top 10 pick....

I hope.He is my QB target if we take one in round 2. If we don't take one there, I seriously hope we give Andre Woodson a chance. He'll probably be available in the 4th and his college numbers compare favorably to the other top prospects (plus he played against SEC defenses all year). I see him as similar to Jason Campbell.

Campbell is an interesting comparison, but Flacco has deceptive mobility.I look at him like a Big Ben.

I'm going to trust Bloom and the other guys who've scouted him in that Flacco's mobility pales in comparison to Big Ben's. Either way, I could care less b/c he's not going to be an Eagle.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I see him as a slow decision making more mobile version of Andrew Walter and pray the Bears don't take him. I see him going Round 2.

In all seriousness, how many games have you watched him play? I'm betting none if you made those comments. I've seen ALL his games and, as a Bears fan, I pray to Jeebus we get him in the second.Trust me, he's the goods. If he didn't play for Delaware, he'd be a top 10 pick....

I hope.He is my QB target if we take one in round 2. If we don't take one there, I seriously hope we give Andre Woodson a chance. He'll probably be available in the 4th and his college numbers compare favorably to the other top prospects (plus he played against SEC defenses all year). I see him as similar to Jason Campbell.

Campbell is an interesting comparison, but Flacco has deceptive mobility.I look at him like a Big Ben.

I'm going to trust Bloom and the other guys who've scouted him in that Flacco's mobility pales in comparison to Big Ben's. Either way, I could care less b/c he's not going to be an Eagle.

Granted I don't get much college scoop, but I did go to UDel for two years and I've also talked with Flacco's pro day trainers.I think he's going to be the real deal.Also as to his deceptive speed - he was the fastest QB in the QB challenge at the senior bowl (and it wasn't close ). The Top 4 prospects and Colt Brennan were involved.The knocks on him are issues with direct snaps (he played a modified shotgun), but that shouldn't be more than a question of reps. He went to 1-AA UDel, but he has the tools to be a top notch QB.I have him as my 2nd QB for talent overall - but I'll give you that I don't know much on Henne.

 

[Jason Wood]

I see him as a slow decision making more mobile version of Andrew Walter and pray the Bears don't take him. I see him going Round 2.

In all seriousness, how many games have you watched him play? I'm betting none if you made those comments. I've seen ALL his games and, as a Bears fan, I pray to Jeebus we get him in the second.Trust me, he's the goods. If he didn't play for Delaware, he'd be a top 10 pick....

I hope.He is my QB target if we take one in round 2. If we don't take one there, I seriously hope we give Andre Woodson a chance. He'll probably be available in the 4th and his college numbers compare favorably to the other top prospects (plus he played against SEC defenses all year). I see him as similar to Jason Campbell.

Campbell is an interesting comparison, but Flacco has deceptive mobility.I look at him like a Big Ben.

I'm going to trust Bloom and the other guys who've scouted him in that Flacco's mobility pales in comparison to Big Ben's. Either way, I could care less b/c he's not going to be an Eagle.

Granted I don't get much college scoop, but I did go to UDel for two years and I've also talked with Flacco's pro day trainers.I think he's going to be the real deal.Also as to his deceptive speed - he was the fastest QB in the QB challenge at the senior bowl (and it wasn't close ). The Top 4 prospects and Colt Brennan were involved.The knocks on him are issues with direct snaps (he played a modified shotgun), but that shouldn't be more than a question of reps. He went to 1-AA UDel, but he has the tools to be a top notch QB.I have him as my 2nd QB for talent overall - but I'll give you that I don't know much on Henne.

I don't know, this guy strikes me as the next in a long line of smaller school QBs that people drool over. I mean, it's not like he was blocked by Philip Rivers or JaMarcus Russell, he was blocked by Tyler "No NFL Future to Speak Of" Palko and ended up leaving the bowl subdivision. No way I'm buying what he's selling until I see it on the field.

 

[ChampBailey24]

- I dont mind that Flacco left Pitt because he saw that Palko was not going to be unseated, but why not go to another DI program?

I believe he would have had to redshirt a year had he transferred to an other D1 program.

 

[teamroc]

Flacco to me is a very interesting player in the draft this year. I have no doubt he will be taken within the 1st couple of rounds of the draft but I also think there is a good chance he will be gone in the 2nd half of the 1st round.

Are you sold on him like you were sold on Jarret? I seem to remember you saying you wouldn't even draft Sydney Rice if you were a GM, and you'd take Jarret in the first round. So are you more sold on Flacco then you were Jarret? And just for giggles, you've seen Flacco play right?As for Flacco, I saw him play a couple of games last year. He does look like a poor mans Big Ben. If he goes to a decent team with a good running game, solid O-line (I dont have much faith in his ability to escape and buy time in the NFL) he has a decent shot. If goes to an awful team with no o-line he'll be a train wreck. He can't carry an offense, he needs an above average pass blocking. I don't like his pocket sense, or his sense of pressure. I saw him literally slide into sacks looking for the deep bomb. If he goes to a bad team and is thrown to the wolves, his bad habits will get even worse and he'll be out of the league in 3 years.

 

[teamroc]

Campbell is an interesting comparison, but Flacco has deceptive mobility.I look at him like a Big Ben.

If by deceptive mobility you mean no mobility at all, I agree 100%. It's deceptive because it doesn't exist. I have no faith in his ability to use his feet to buy time or avoid sacks. The Eagles are an example of a great fit. A team that builds from the lines out, with a great system/coaching/talent in place.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Flacco to me is a very interesting player in the draft this year. I have no doubt he will be taken within the 1st couple of rounds of the draft but I also think there is a good chance he will be gone in the 2nd half of the 1st round.

Are you sold on him like you were sold on Jarret? I seem to remember you saying you wouldn't even draft Sydney Rice if you were a GM, and you'd take Jarret in the first round. So are you more sold on Flacco then you were Jarret? And just for giggles, you've seen Flacco play right?As for Flacco, I saw him play a couple of games last year. He does look like a poor mans Big Ben. If he goes to a decent team with a good running game, solid O-line (I dont have much faith in his ability to escape and buy time in the NFL) he has a decent shot. If goes to an awful team with no o-line he'll be a train wreck. He can't carry an offense, he needs an above average pass blocking. I don't like his pocket sense, or his sense of pressure. I saw him literally slide into sacks looking for the deep bomb. If he goes to a bad team and is thrown to the wolves, his bad habits will get even worse and he'll be out of the league in 3 years.

It's obvious you have a personal thing against my login, since you don't me you can't have anything against me personally, however I would just invite you to please think about what you spew into the Shark pool thread, especially mine as no one is forcing you to read them. What did Rice do exactly? Jarrett was hardly given a chance as most players who are rookie at Carolina(see DWill the past 2 seasons)...and Steve Smith took a couple of years before the Panthers realized what they had in him too. I was hot for a couple of WR last season including Dwayne Bowe which you of course gloss over. My viewpoint has not changed much really and Sydney Rice is not a top20 WR IMO anytime soon.Rice had 30+ cathces for 398 yds and 4 TD...a 12.8 ypc avg is not really exciting me either. If you go back and look at his game logs in college you find his big games were against the worst competition, that's the truth. Flacco...I'm not going to defend myself against the filth you are writing as it wouldn't matter if I said I roomed with the guy in college, you obviously don't like my posts so please don't launch a personal attack in my threads, thank a lot and good luck in your drafts.I also would invite you to not reply and get into a pissing contest in here as it won't end well, thanks.

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

Mike Mayock was raving about him on the radio yesterday. He said watching him practice, he was one of the few QBs he has seen over the years who's arm made him say "Wow". As a UDel grad, I hope he does well

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

- I dont mind that Flacco left Pitt because he saw that Palko was not going to be unseated, but why not go to another DI program?

I believe he would have had to redshirt a year had he transferred to an other D1 program.

Flacco had to take a year off anyway - im not sure the specifics, but he sat out 05.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Flacco to me is a very interesting player in the draft this year. I have no doubt he will be taken within the 1st couple of rounds of the draft but I also think there is a good chance he will be gone in the 2nd half of the 1st round.

Are you sold on him like you were sold on Jarret? I seem to remember you saying you wouldn't even draft Sydney Rice if you were a GM, and you'd take Jarret in the first round. So are you more sold on Flacco then you were Jarret? And just for giggles, you've seen Flacco play right?

As for Flacco, I saw him play a couple of games last year. He does look like a poor mans Big Ben. If he goes to a decent team with a good running game, solid O-line (I dont have much faith in his ability to escape and buy time in the NFL) he has a decent shot. If goes to an awful team with no o-line he'll be a train wreck. He can't carry an offense, he needs an above average pass blocking. I don't like his pocket sense, or his sense of pressure. I saw him literally slide into sacks looking for the deep bomb. If he goes to a bad team and is thrown to the wolves, his bad habits will get even worse and he'll be out of the league in 3 years.

Campbell is an interesting comparison, but Flacco has deceptive mobility.

I look at him like a Big Ben.

If by deceptive mobility you mean no mobility at all, I agree 100%. It's deceptive because it doesn't exist. I have no faith in his ability to use his feet to buy time or avoid sacks. The Eagles are an example of a great fit. A team that builds from the lines out, with a great system/coaching/talent in place.

 

[bjabrad]

- I dont mind that Flacco left Pitt because he saw that Palko was not going to be unseated, but why not go to another DI program?

I believe he would have had to redshirt a year had he transferred to an other D1 program.

Flacco had to take a year off anyway - im not sure the specifics, but he sat out 05.

I read that he was forced to sit out because PITT was stubborn and refused to release him. I hope that makes sense because I have no idea how it works.

 

[North]

Please oh God let him be there when the Ravens pick in the 2nd round!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I have to watch the Ravens trot out Boller or Smith week 1 I'm gonna shoot myself.

If you're gonna start one of those two players you're pretty much saying that you're not looking to make the playoffs. If that's the case what do you have to lose by drafting Flacco and starting him so he can get experience. He's from the area and has all the tools to be a pro QB, lets see how the Ravens can screw up another QB situation!

 

[North]

If I had to guess, I would say Baltimore goes with Henne, Ryan is long gone and it comes down to Brohm or Flacco to the Falcons at some point either in the late 1st or early 2nd.You have to think the Chiefs, Bears and Lions will look hard at a QB, but who knows if any of them like Flacco enough to take him in the 2nd.

NO NOT HENNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WE WANT SOME FLACCO!Theres no way the Ravens go QB in the 1st unless Ryan falls to them. They will take a QB in the 2nd, hopefully Flacco.

 

[NoCheese]

I think the Vikings would have a hard time passing him up at 2.17. Ya know, just in case T-Jack doesn't work out.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

- I dont mind that Flacco left Pitt because he saw that Palko was not going to be unseated, but why not go to another DI program?

I believe he would have had to redshirt a year had he transferred to an other D1 program.

Flacco had to take a year off anyway - im not sure the specifics, but he sat out 05.

I read that he was forced to sit out because PITT was stubborn and refused to release him. I hope that makes sense because I have no idea how it works.

thats it - pitt made it so no matter where he went he was going to have to sit out a year.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

There will definitely be trading going on at 2.01. Teams will look to leapfrog each other to grab "their guy".

I still believe Balitmore gets Flacco.

ATL or KC takes Ryan.

 

[Farmer Fran]

I had the opportunity to watch play Flacco play in a number of games over the last two years. He obviously has great size and arm strength. I think that fans who haven't seen him play will find that he is much more athletic than they expected. I have seen him make some very athletic throws that you would not expect from a guy so tall. I think he also is a pretty bright guy and reads defenses very well. He managed a wide open spread offense that often went no-huddle very well. We will see how he does under center and how he adjusts to the speed of the pro game. It took Rich Gannon a little while to make the adjustment from Delaware but once he did he became and MVP.

Another thing about Flacco is he seems very calm. Sometimes maybe too calm. That may affect people's perception of him as a leader but may also make him a better player. Flacco saw what transferring from a Division I program did for Andy Hall (drafted by the Eagles) and made a good move for himself. This year Delaware has a QB transfer from Ohio State. I hope that he does just as well. Good luck to Flacco this weekend and good luck to the Delaware Blue Hens.

 

[teamroc]

It's obvious you have a personal thing against my login, since you don't me you can't have anything against me personally, however I would just invite you to please think about what you spew into the Shark pool thread, especially mine as no one is forcing you to read them. What did Rice do exactly? Jarrett was hardly given a chance as most players who are rookie at Carolina(see DWill the past 2 seasons)...and Steve Smith took a couple of years before the Panthers realized what they had in him too. I was hot for a couple of WR last season including Dwayne Bowe which you of course gloss over. My viewpoint has not changed much really and Sydney Rice is not a top20 WR IMO anytime soon.Rice had 30+ cathces for 398 yds and 4 TD...a 12.8 ypc avg is not really exciting me either. If you go back and look at his game logs in college you find his big games were against the worst competition, that's the truth. Flacco...I'm not going to defend myself against the filth you are writing as it wouldn't matter if I said I roomed with the guy in college, you obviously don't like my posts so please don't launch a personal attack in my threads, thank a lot and good luck in your drafts.I also would invite you to not reply and get into a pissing contest in here as it won't end well, thanks.

I just found it funny that you found it so laughable that Rice was better then Jarret. As you said, you wouldn't even have drafted Rice. <lol> Rice is now ranked #25, Jarret #64 in the FBG dynasty rankings. Doesn't seem so laughable now does it? And so you haven't ever seen Flacco play. I just thought it was something to toss out. You seem very black and white in your stances; I just wondered how well you knew these players. As you mentioned, all you knew about Rice was box scores. You have an interesting way of evaluating players, you know without actually watching them play. Invite me not to reply? Awkward.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

It's obvious you have a personal thing against my login, since you don't me you can't have anything against me personally, however I would just invite you to please think about what you spew into the Shark pool thread, especially mine as no one is forcing you to read them. What did Rice do exactly? Jarrett was hardly given a chance as most players who are rookie at Carolina(see DWill the past 2 seasons)...and Steve Smith took a couple of years before the Panthers realized what they had in him too. I was hot for a couple of WR last season including Dwayne Bowe which you of course gloss over. My viewpoint has not changed much really and Sydney Rice is not a top20 WR IMO anytime soon.Rice had 30+ cathces for 398 yds and 4 TD...a 12.8 ypc avg is not really exciting me either. If you go back and look at his game logs in college you find his big games were against the worst competition, that's the truth. Flacco...I'm not going to defend myself against the filth you are writing as it wouldn't matter if I said I roomed with the guy in college, you obviously don't like my posts so please don't launch a personal attack in my threads, thank a lot and good luck in your drafts.I also would invite you to not reply and get into a pissing contest in here as it won't end well, thanks.

I just found it funny that you found it so laughable that Rice was better then Jarret. As you said, you wouldn't even have drafted Rice. <lol> Rice is now ranked #25, Jarret #64 in the FBG dynasty rankings. Doesn't seem so laughable now does it? And so you haven't ever seen Flacco play. I just thought it was something to toss out. You seem very black and white in your stances; I just wondered how well you knew these players. As you mentioned, all you knew about Rice was box scores. You have an interesting way of evaluating players, you know without actually watching them play. Invite me not to reply? Awkward.

The only thing awkward is that you keep telling me that I don't watch any of these players.

 

[Enforcer]

I believe that Seattle is going to be very willing to deal their pick at 1.25. Perfect scenario for someone to move up and grab Flacco.

Seattle only has five picks in this draft and desperately need to replace their special teams stars that they lost in free agency (LBs Bentley and Kaz). Those middle round linebackers will fill this void nicely. Further, I think Seattle is targeting a second round TE so moving down works perfect for them as they probably don't want to waste a late first rounder on a reach like Keller from Purdue.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

There will definitely be trading going on at 2.01. Teams will look to leapfrog each other to grab "their guy".I still believe Balitmore gets Flacco.ATL or KC takes Ryan.

Jeff, I think there are at least a half dozen teams that have a serious interest in Flacco and I won't be surprised to see several teams trying to trade back up into the 1st to snag him. The guy I think that falls is Brohm...not sure how far but I think he could freefall on Saturday.but I agree that there will be a lot of movement come the end of the 1st-early 2nd round.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I had the opportunity to watch play Flacco play in a number of games over the last two years. He obviously has great size and arm strength. I think that fans who haven't seen him play will find that he is much more athletic than they expected. I have seen him make some very athletic throws that you would not expect from a guy so tall. I think he also is a pretty bright guy and reads defenses very well. He managed a wide open spread offense that often went no-huddle very well. We will see how he does under center and how he adjusts to the speed of the pro game. It took Rich Gannon a little while to make the adjustment from Delaware but once he did he became and MVP. Another thing about Flacco is he seems very calm. Sometimes maybe too calm. That may affect people's perception of him as a leader but may also make him a better player. Flacco saw what transferring from a Division I program did for Andy Hall (drafted by the Eagles) and made a good move for himself. This year Delaware has a QB transfer from Ohio State. I hope that he does just as well. Good luck to Flacco this weekend and good luck to the Delaware Blue Hens.

Several things I agree with here. Size, arm strength, only 5 picks vs Matt Ryan threw 19 last year, bright guy, reads defenses well, calm and collective.The knock could be a spread offense but these days in the NFL, lots of teams throw it a bunch so it may not be a terrible thing.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Bloom has Brohm going to Miami at the 2.01

I also believe that Brohm who was regarded as a potential top10 pick at one time will freefall thru the 1st round. But if Miami has a chance at one of the better QBs on Saturday, I would really like to see them get Flacco to compete with Beck. Flacco would not start right away but i think a year or two in the system and Miami would have their franchise QB that they desperately need.

I am not sold on Beck, he's already 28, didn't do much that made me stop and take notice last season, would really love to see them develop 2 young arms for the future.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Obviously this was one of the guys that was flying a little under the radar. We talked about him going much higher than the top of the 2nd.

He is drafted by a team with a quality defense, and lots of talent in the skills positions, he should do well and will likely start this season.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Ravens, Round 21.

 

[gheemony]

Hate the pick. Feels like Kyle Boller II. Reach for a guy with a strong arm. He couldn't start at PITT. Stats not great. I think Brohm's a better choice.