Joey Harrington soon? (1 Viewer)

[Da Guru]

Nick Saben has never been afraid to pull the trigger on a QB switch. Given the fact that Culpepper has picked up where he left off last season what are the chances of seeing Harrington soon?

We have to remember this is not the Culpepper of three years..or even two years ago. Like some baseball pitchers lose it overnight, it appears that Culpepper for whatever reason beginning last season looks lost on the field. It is kind of sad to watch him last season and the first 2 weeks of this season struggle the way he has.

 

[King of the Jungle]

10:07 am is a little early to start drinking isn't it?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

As a Vikings fan, I can't tell you how shocking it was to see Daunte fumbling like that.

Oh. Wait a sec...

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[Da Guru]

10:07 am is a little early to start drinking isn't it?

You must not have watched the last 2 weeks...or the first 6 last season

 

[Trey]

Dolphins' fan here...

And by the 3rd Quarter of yesterday's game I was already screaming "WE WANT JOEY" at the TV.

 

[King of the Jungle]

10:07 am is a little early to start drinking isn't it?

You must not have watched the last 2 weeks...or the first 6 last season

Your right I didnt, but I have watched the last four PAINFUL seasons with Joey playing in Detroit. If Joey is the answer to the problems in MIA, I would be shocked.

 

[craigboy]

If Daunte can't turn things around in the next two weeks (VS the Titans and Texans) he should be benched for the rest of the year.

Of course Harrington is about the worst thing you could have as a backup.

 

[Mordraken]

IMO he's the only reason the Fins lost that game. Maybe they need a little electric-shock thingy that goes off 3 seconds after the ball is hiked. The commetators praised him at how he was able to go through his progression - only problem is that takes 5-6 seconds, and he gets sacked after 4. Sure the blocking could have been better, but he's got the mobility to get outside & throw it away and he doesn't.

On another note, it is clear that his leg strength isn't there because as soon as somone is around his legs, he folds down.

 

[King of the Jungle]

IMO he's the only reason the Fins lost that game. Maybe they need a little electric-shock thingy that goes off 3 seconds after the ball is hiked. The commetators praised him at how he was able to go through his progression - only problem is that takes 5-6 seconds, and he gets sacked after 4. Sure the blocking could have been better, but he's got the mobility to get outside & throw it away and he doesn't.

On another note, it is clear that his leg strength isn't there because as soon as somone is around his legs, he folds down.

That may be a mental reaction as well. I am sure he is still thinking about the injury in the back of his mind.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Dolphins' fan here...And by the 3rd Quarter of yesterday's game I was already screaming "WE WANT JOEY" at the TV.

Why did they get away from the run? Was Ronnie not running well?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

IMO he's the only reason the Fins lost that game. Maybe they need a little electric-shock thingy that goes off 3 seconds after the ball is hiked. The commetators praised him at how he was able to go through his progression - only problem is that takes 5-6 seconds, and he gets sacked after 4. Sure the blocking could have been better, but he's got the mobility to get outside & throw it away and he doesn't.

Welcome to the pain of the Vikings fan for the last 4 seasons.THROW THE EFFING BALL DAUNTE!!!!

 

[seahawk 17]

If Daunte can't turn things around in the next two weeks (VS the Titans and Texans) he should be benched for the rest of the year. Of course Harrington is about the worst thing you could have as a backup.

Harrington was not the problem, Detroit was the problem. Look for Joey to get a fresh start and become a great NFL QB.

 

[Bull Dozier]

IMO he's the only reason the Fins lost that game. Maybe they need a little electric-shock thingy that goes off 3 seconds after the ball is hiked. The commetators praised him at how he was able to go through his progression - only problem is that takes 5-6 seconds, and he gets sacked after 4. Sure the blocking could have been better, but he's got the mobility to get outside & throw it away and he doesn't.On another note, it is clear that his leg strength isn't there because as soon as somone is around his legs, he folds down.

I've thought since 2004 that Culpepper is a fantastic QB to have when you have an awesome offensive line that can give you 6-7 seconds regularly (like the Vikes line used to be able to do) but the absolute worst QB to have if you have a mediocre to bad line.If Daunte can sit back and wait for someone to finally get open, he's golden, since if he doesn't he can at least run for a few. If he has to make quick decisions under fire, you'll be pining for Ryan Leaf.

 

[playin4beer]

If Daunte can't turn things around in the next two weeks (VS the Titans and Texans) he should be benched for the rest of the year. Of course Harrington is about the worst thing you could have as a backup.

Harrington was not the problem, Detroit was the problem. Look for Joey to get a fresh start and become a great NFL QB.

Yeah, because Detroit wrecks all QB potential. Look at all the talented QB's that left Detroit and became good/great. There's.....um.....um.......NOPE not a one.

 

[seahawk 17]

If Daunte can't turn things around in the next two weeks (VS the Titans and Texans) he should be benched for the rest of the year. Of course Harrington is about the worst thing you could have as a backup.

Harrington was not the problem, Detroit was the problem. Look for Joey to get a fresh start and become a great NFL QB.

Yeah, because Detroit wrecks all QB potential. Look at all the talented QB's that left Detroit and became good/great. There's.....um.....um.......NOPE not a one.

Detroit makes all QB's look bad, see what Kitna is going through now.

 

[King of the Jungle]

If Daunte can't turn things around in the next two weeks (VS the Titans and Texans) he should be benched for the rest of the year. Of course Harrington is about the worst thing you could have as a backup.

Harrington was not the problem, Detroit was the problem. Look for Joey to get a fresh start and become a great NFL QB.

Yeah, because Detroit wrecks all QB potential. Look at all the talented QB's that left Detroit and became good/great. There's.....um.....um.......NOPE not a one.

Detroit makes all QB's look bad, see what Kitna is going through now.

Kitna was actually 23-30 in the Bears game (no INT). Problem is the penalties and the lack of downfield passing.

 

[Nipsey]

The Pitt and Buff D's are no joke. Even in those two games when it looked like the offense seemingly couldn't get on track, he still threw for 262 and 250 yards. It'll get easier and he'll be fine

 

[Da Guru]

The Pitt and Buff D's are no joke. Even in those two games when it looked like the offense seemingly couldn't get on track, he still threw for 262 and 250 yards. It'll get easier and he'll be fine

I agree, but Peppy got around 80 yards and TD in garbage time when the game was basically over. The Bills were just letting him complete everything underneath for 10-12 yards a pass.

 

[Nipsey]

The Pitt and Buff D's are no joke. Even in those two games when it looked like the offense seemingly couldn't get on track, he still threw for 262 and 250 yards. It'll get easier and he'll be fine

I agree, but Peppy got around 80 yards and TD in garbage time when the game was basically over. The Bills were just letting him complete everything underneath for 10-12 yards a pass.

Luckilly my league counts garbage time stats.

 

[grouse]

How good would Drew Brees have looked in a Dolphins uniform? How they let him walk out of their facility this summer without a signed contract ranks right up there with Enron accounting and the Houston Texans. I'm surprised the JFK conspiracists haven't come out in droves to try and solve the mystery of how the New Orleans Saints managed to end up with Reggie Bush and Drew Brees.

 

[corpcow]

Dolphins' fan here...And by the 3rd Quarter of yesterday's game I was already screaming "WE WANT JOEY" at the TV.

I would be careful what you wish for

 

[corpcow]

The Pitt and Buff D's are no joke. Even in those two games when it looked like the offense seemingly couldn't get on track, he still threw for 262 and 250 yards. It'll get easier and he'll be fine

I said this in another thread about the doomed Miami offense. As much as I would love to say this as a Jets fan, I think they'll bounce back. Buffalo shut down Brady and company (and scored on the opening play if you remember) last week, and Pittsburgh is, well, Pittsburgh.What worried me more was his second half "lobbing" in the week 1, but it looks like he at least reversed that trend this game. Culpepper is coming off a major knee injury. He looks lighter and thinner, but he's also trying to get back in the groove. I just have a feeling he'll come around... unfortunately.(In the meantime, he's riding the pine

 

[lod2005]

If Daunte can't turn things around in the next two weeks (VS the Titans and Texans) he should be benched for the rest of the year. Of course Harrington is about the worst thing you could have as a backup.

Harrington was not the problem, Detroit was the problem. Look for Joey to get a fresh start and become a great NFL QB.

That's gold, Jerry, gold. However he couldn't be much worse than C-Pep and may be slightly better, which is still horrid.

 

[Bri]

I expected him to struggle. Overcoming an injury and learning a new offense, I expected it. I still think he'll be solid for FF in the second half of the season. I drafted Warner and him in a few leagues and I still plan to use Daunte once Warner gets hurt or benched for Leinart.

The Vikings fans hating on him is getting old.

 

[Bull Dozier]

I expected him to struggle. Overcoming an injury and learning a new offense, I expected it. I still think he'll be solid for FF in the second half of the season. I drafted Warner and him in a few leagues and I still plan to use Daunte once Warner gets hurt or benched for Leinart. The Vikings fans hating on him is getting old.

The Viking haters (I am one) are probably due to the fact that we were tied to the performance of the team, not just solely concerned with his fantasy numbers.

 

[Gatorman]

The truth is, as a dolphin fan, that Daunte is not ready to come back. He is worried about the knee. It shows out there. Add that to the dolphin line being not that good (especially with the losses at the guard position they have sufferred) and you are really in trouble there.

This team should be fine. Culpepper, being in such a hurry to prove the vikings wrong, may have rushed into things down here. And yes, Drew Brees leaving Miami without a contract may have been the biggest mistake of the offseason (if Daunte Doesnt STEP UP)

The chant of Joey went up at Dolphin stadium BTW in the middle of the third.

 

[wombat104]

Dolphins' fan here...And by the 3rd Quarter of yesterday's game I was already screaming "WE WANT JOEY" at the TV.

Lions fan here...You can have him

 

[King of the Jungle]

Dolphins' fan here...

And by the 3rd Quarter of yesterday's game I was already screaming "WE WANT JOEY" at the TV.

Lions fan here...You can have him

Sorry about that...me too.

 

[Bri]

I expected him to struggle. Overcoming an injury and learning a new offense, I expected it. I still think he'll be solid for FF in the second half of the season. I drafted Warner and him in a few leagues and I still plan to use Daunte once Warner gets hurt or benched for Leinart. The Vikings fans hating on him is getting old.

The Viking haters (I am one) are probably due to the fact that we were tied to the performance of the team, not just solely concerned with his fantasy numbers.

you're certainly entitled to your opinion.There's been alot of players and coaches that have left teams and become "the devil" in fans' eyes. Then they drop it and move on. I suppose I'm impatient for the "moving on" some need to do. It just doesn't add to the discussion.

 

[JuniorNB]

The Vikings fans hating on him is getting old.

Yeah, but Dolphins' fans hating on him is still quite fresh.

 

[corpcow]

The truth is, as a dolphin fan, that Daunte is not ready to come back. He is worried about the knee. It shows out there. Add that to the dolphin line being not that good (especially with the losses at the guard position they have sufferred) and you are really in trouble there.This team should be fine. Culpepper, being in such a hurry to prove the vikings wrong, may have rushed into things down here. And yes, Drew Brees leaving Miami without a contract may have been the biggest mistake of the offseason (if Daunte Doesnt STEP UP)

I agree, Culpepper may have rushed things particularly since mobility is such a big part of his game. But remember, Brees was also dealing with a major injury to his throwing shoulder, and look how well Chad - another QB not known for his arm strength - came back initially from an injured shoulder. It's only week 2, let's try to keep things in perspective. Brees has played the Browns and the Packers, neither of which possess a defense that instills fear in their opponents. Meanwhile, Culpepper has played two of the better defenses in the league.And Miami still has a lot of young talent on offense, so even if they're "ok" this year they may have felt Daunte has more upside over the next few years once he really is healthy.All I'm saying here is that we give it some time. Us sharks sometimes have a terrible tendency to overreact

 

[TwinTurbo]

If Daunte can't turn things around in the next two weeks (VS the Titans and Texans) he should be benched for the rest of the year. Of course Harrington is about the worst thing you could have as a backup.

Harrington was not the problem, Detroit was the problem. Look for Joey to get a fresh start and become a great NFL QB.

Yes if the Miami WR can learn to catch the ball with their feet, then Joey is your man. Good luck.

 

[Hoh]

If Daunte can't turn things around in the next two weeks (VS the Titans and Texans) he should be benched for the rest of the year. Of course Harrington is about the worst thing you could have as a backup.

Harrington was not the problem, Detroit was the problem. Look for Joey to get a fresh start and become a great NFL QB.

Yeah, because Detroit wrecks all QB potential. Look at all the talented QB's that left Detroit and became good/great. There's.....um.....um.......NOPE not a one.

In all fairness, they usually leave Detroit on crutches, a stretcher, or clutching their AARP card.Just as a psychiatry experiment, I'd like to see Joey start a few games as a 'Fin before I label him a COMPLETE bust.Detroit's problems extend WAY beyond the QB position. I don't think there is a QB in the NFL who could be great (good, yes....great,no) in Detroit.

 

[Bull Dozier]

I expected him to struggle. Overcoming an injury and learning a new offense, I expected it. I still think he'll be solid for FF in the second half of the season. I drafted Warner and him in a few leagues and I still plan to use Daunte once Warner gets hurt or benched for Leinart. The Vikings fans hating on him is getting old.

The Viking haters (I am one) are probably due to the fact that we were tied to the performance of the team, not just solely concerned with his fantasy numbers.

you're certainly entitled to your opinion.There's been alot of players and coaches that have left teams and become "the devil" in fans' eyes. Then they drop it and move on. I suppose I'm impatient for the "moving on" some need to do. It just doesn't add to the discussion.

What's to move on about? He is a player with serious weaknesses in his game. They are still evident, knee injury or not. I don't know why that doesn't add value to the conversation. At least I don't know why that is so much less valid to discuess that Kurt Warner's impending injury.

 

[Da Guru]

RotoWire said Peppy was limping after the game. I really don`t think he is physically ready.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Joey Harrington is not good.

 

[Two Deep]

IMO he's the only reason the Fins lost that game. Maybe they need a little electric-shock thingy that goes off 3 seconds after the ball is hiked. The commetators praised him at how he was able to go through his progression - only problem is that takes 5-6 seconds, and he gets sacked after 4. Sure the blocking could have been better, but he's got the mobility to get outside & throw it away and he doesn't.

On another note, it is clear that his leg strength isn't there because as soon as somone is around his legs, he folds down.

If he only had the mental capacity to think of it.

 

[playin4beer]

If Daunte can't turn things around in the next two weeks (VS the Titans and Texans) he should be benched for the rest of the year. Of course Harrington is about the worst thing you could have as a backup.

Harrington was not the problem, Detroit was the problem. Look for Joey to get a fresh start and become a great NFL QB.

Yeah, because Detroit wrecks all QB potential. Look at all the talented QB's that left Detroit and became good/great. There's.....um.....um.......NOPE not a one.

In all fairness, they usually leave Detroit on crutches, a stretcher, or clutching their AARP card.Just as a psychiatry experiment, I'd like to see Joey start a few games as a 'Fin before I label him a COMPLETE bust.Detroit's problems extend WAY beyond the QB position. I don't think there is a QB in the NFL who could be great (good, yes....great,no) in Detroit.

I'm not labeling Joey a COMPLETE bust yet, but here are some names just off the top of my head.Andre WareRodney PeeteChuck LongGus FerrotteScott MitchellCharlie BatchEric KramerJeff GarciaMike McMahonNow have any of these QB's left the Lions and been a #1 QB with another team? Not decent back-up (Batch), but a bonefide starter?

 

[Da Guru]

If Daunte can't turn things around in the next two weeks (VS the Titans and Texans) he should be benched for the rest of the year. Of course Harrington is about the worst thing you could have as a backup.

Harrington was not the problem, Detroit was the problem. Look for Joey to get a fresh start and become a great NFL QB.

Yeah, because Detroit wrecks all QB potential. Look at all the talented QB's that left Detroit and became good/great. There's.....um.....um.......NOPE not a one.

In all fairness, they usually leave Detroit on crutches, a stretcher, or clutching their AARP card.Just as a psychiatry experiment, I'd like to see Joey start a few games as a 'Fin before I label him a COMPLETE bust.Detroit's problems extend WAY beyond the QB position. I don't think there is a QB in the NFL who could be great (good, yes....great,no) in Detroit.

I'm not labeling Joey a COMPLETE bust yet, but here are some names just off the top of my head.Andre WareRodney PeeteChuck LongGus FerrotteScott MitchellCharlie BatchEric KramerJeff GarciaMike McMahonNow have any of these QB's left the Lions and been a #1 QB with another team? Not decent back-up (Batch), but a bonefide starter?

You can throw in any Lion head coach as well. Has a Lion head coach ever got another head job??

 

[ratpfink]

Look, Daunte is a Jedi knight. It's not his fault the Force isn't strong in the rest of the team.

 

[Spartans Rule]

If Daunte can't turn things around in the next two weeks (VS the Titans and Texans) he should be benched for the rest of the year. Of course Harrington is about the worst thing you could have as a backup.

Harrington was not the problem, Detroit was the problem. Look for Joey to get a fresh start and become a great NFL QB.

Joey wasn't THE problem, but he was certainly ONE OF the problems, maybe the biggest one.I have no doubt that Harrington took some unfair blame in Detroit, and that he can play better in a different system. He might even become a serviceable NFL starter - with enough talent around him, maybe even a good one. But he will never, EVER be great. He's just too jumpy in the pocket.

 

[seahawk 17]

If Daunte can't turn things around in the next two weeks (VS the Titans and Texans) he should be benched for the rest of the year. Of course Harrington is about the worst thing you could have as a backup.

Harrington was not the problem, Detroit was the problem. Look for Joey to get a fresh start and become a great NFL QB.

Yeah, because Detroit wrecks all QB potential. Look at all the talented QB's that left Detroit and became good/great. There's.....um.....um.......NOPE not a one.

In all fairness, they usually leave Detroit on crutches, a stretcher, or clutching their AARP card.Just as a psychiatry experiment, I'd like to see Joey start a few games as a 'Fin before I label him a COMPLETE bust.Detroit's problems extend WAY beyond the QB position. I don't think there is a QB in the NFL who could be great (good, yes....great,no) in Detroit.

 

[Foosball God]

If Daunte can't turn things around in the next two weeks (VS the Titans and Texans) he should be benched for the rest of the year. Of course Harrington is about the worst thing you could have as a backup.

Harrington was not the problem, Detroit was the problem. Look for Joey to get a fresh start and become a great NFL QB.

Yeah, because Detroit wrecks all QB potential. Look at all the talented QB's that left Detroit and became good/great. There's.....um.....um.......NOPE not a one.

In all fairness, they usually leave Detroit on crutches, a stretcher, or clutching their AARP card.Just as a psychiatry experiment, I'd like to see Joey start a few games as a 'Fin before I label him a COMPLETE bust.Detroit's problems extend WAY beyond the QB position. I don't think there is a QB in the NFL who could be great (good, yes....great,no) in Detroit.

I'm not labeling Joey a COMPLETE bust yet, but here are some names just off the top of my head.Andre WareRodney PeeteChuck LongGus FerrotteScott MitchellCharlie BatchEric KramerJeff GarciaMike McMahonNow have any of these QB's left the Lions and been a #1 QB with another team? Not decent back-up (Batch), but a bonefide starter?

Kramer played relatively well for the Bears for a few seasons

 

[mike11162]

Watching the game yesterday, it's clear Daunte is not healthy enough to be starting right now. Look at how he's throwing the ball, he's not stepping into his throws. He's basically just lobbing it up. And obviously struggling with his mobility. The fact he's still starting may be an indictment how bad Joey really is.

 

[playin4beer]

If Daunte can't turn things around in the next two weeks (VS the Titans and Texans) he should be benched for the rest of the year.

Of course Harrington is about the worst thing you could have as a backup.

Harrington was not the problem, Detroit was the problem. Look for Joey to get a fresh start and become a great NFL QB.

Yeah, because Detroit wrecks all QB potential. Look at all the talented QB's that left Detroit and became good/great. There's.....um.....um.......NOPE not a one.

In all fairness, they usually leave Detroit on crutches, a stretcher, or clutching their AARP card.Just as a psychiatry experiment, I'd like to see Joey start a few games as a 'Fin before I label him a COMPLETE bust.

Detroit's problems extend WAY beyond the QB position. I don't think there is a QB in the NFL who could be great (good, yes....great,no) in Detroit.

I'm not labeling Joey a COMPLETE bust yet, but here are some names just off the top of my head.Andre Ware

Rodney Peete

Chuck Long

Gus Ferrotte

Scott Mitchell

Charlie Batch

Eric Kramer

Jeff Garcia

Mike McMahon

Now have any of these QB's left the Lions and been a #1 QB with another team? Not decent back-up (Batch), but a bonefide starter?

You can throw in any Lion head coach as well. Has a Lion head coach ever got another head job??

 

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Has a Lion head coach ever got another head job??

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