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John Murphy: The New Face of the Draft (1 Viewer)

So what's Murph got fo us this year??
Texas Vs The Nation RostersHe was very high on Michael Coe and Jacoby Jones at the Shrine Game.

Seriously folks, Murph was on Colston back in 05. When Stovall pulled out, he lobbied pretty hard to get Colston in the game, and then on Wednesday at the practices could not stop from raving about Colston - anyone who read my report from the 06 Shrine Game NFL Day knows that he all but compared Colston to TO.

Murphy is the one voice I trust over all others when it comes to player evaluation.

You can find a lot of his scouting reports at Yahoo

 
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FYI... Texas Vs. The Nation will happen again this year. There's some talk of NFL Network being involved :shrug: - I was the only media outside of local El Paso coverage there last year!

Murph has also told me he's thinking of starting another game in either December or March.

 
To be honest with you I'd never heard of the guy before, thanks for the heads up bloom :tinfoilhat:

Also I'm glad to see the texas vs the nation game get some more support. With the quality of players from that state the game seems like a very good idea to me

 
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To be honest with you I'd never heard of the guy before, thanks for the heads up bloom :tinfoilhat:
no reason you should have, and that's part of why I wrote the piece. He really was EVERYWHERE at the Shrine Game, Senior Bowl, Texas vs the Nation, Combine, pro days... you name it.I believe he's going to be on Sirius NFL Radio this weekend as part of their coverage.
 
Interesting...thx for posting.

It'll be interesting to see how he fares this year.

 
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From the time in between Day 1-2 of the 2006 Draft:
Day 1 of the 2006 NFL draft is complete. All 32 teams will reflect on the day that was and re-order their boards for the start of rounds four through seven on Sunday.

The draft's second day is when you build the depth chart of your franchise and find those late-round success stories, which can greatly improve your salary cap situation if you can locate a late-round starter – even if it's a special-teams ace.

The following are my 12 best players still on the board for the start of Sunday's fourth round. Let's just call them Day 2's "Dirty Dozen."
4. Mark Anderson, DE, Alabama – He's an edge rusher who stood out at the Senior Bowl and then blew scouts away with his all-around numbers at the scouting combine. Several teams that employ a 3-4 scheme evaluated Anderson to possibly switch him to outside linebacker. At worst, he's a situational pass rusher early in his career.
8. Antoine Bethea, DB, Howard University – He's a small-school defender with very good speed and range. He surprised many with his sub-4.4 time in the 40 at the combine and caught the eye of several teams with his superb private workouts. Expect him to be taken by either Cleveland or Seattle on Day 2.
9. Marques Colston, WR, Hofstra – Colston is a big, physical pass catcher that wowed scouts at the East-West Shrine Game. He caught a pair of touchdowns and then nearly won the game in the final seconds with a highlight-reel catch between two defenders. The Division I-AA program has turned out guys like Wayne Chrebet (Jets), Lance Schulters (Dolphins) and Arlen Harris (Lions). Colston is 6-foot-4 and 225 pounds and ran 4.5s at the combine. He's worth watching on the team that lands his services.
 
Not sure if it's Murphy's ranking or not, but yahoo has Ted Ginn Jr. #2 on the WR Board :)
I'm not sure either, but one of the most level-headed and solid profiles/scouting reports on Ginn can be found in Murphy's mock. He very much likes Ginn and he is realistic about what he's seen. Ginn is probably WR2 on several NFL draft boards. I wouldn't guess he is 2 on more than any other WR, but I do consider that a possibility. Bloom, if I have one complaint about Murphy (so far) it's that he's too nice. I love that in some respects, but I want to see ALL these kids succeed, but I I know they won't, and I would like to see him go south on a player a little more often.

I think he writes the best "short" analysis out there on the prospects he likes the most, and it is obvious to me (being I watch so much college football) that Murphy is also watching more than most. When he seems not to like a player he doesn't say so, he just doesn't say much at all.

Here's what I'm getting at.

Ginn he seems to like -

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/players/112415

Spencer not so much -

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/players/89815

;)

 
I believe the rankings referenced above are from rivals

It looks like Murphy's rankings are here

He still has Ginn as the 2nd best reciever.

The glaring points seem to be that he really likes Anderson, Nelson, and Houston more than most and likes Carriker while disliking Revis/Hall and he seems down on Brown more than some (though it should be noted this list is from 3/27 and if can believe the hype Brown has been rising recently)

 
Well written and very interesting piece Bloom!
There is a site with a draft guide that many folks posting here on Football guys know very well. It included a very high grade on Colston. It is reported/claimed to have been used as an additional reference by the Saints last year. I cant say that it is true, but the guide claims it so. 300 plus pages on 60 rookie offensive players. There is some very interesting and very kool stuff in it. We will see if it pans out, extensive film study of multi games with multi grade sheets on each and every player.
 
Well written and very interesting piece Bloom!
There is a site with a draft guide that many folks posting here on Football guys know very well. It included a very high grade on Colston. It is reported/claimed to have been used as an additional reference by the Saints last year. I cant say that it is true, but the guide claims it so. 300 plus pages on 60 rookie offensive players. There is some very interesting and very kool stuff in it. We will see if it pans out, extensive film study of multi games with multi grade sheets on each and every player.
What's with the secrecy?As I've said before countless times, the average fan forgets that NFL teams have scouts and player personnel people. Granted some teams like the Bengals have a dramatically smaller amount of scouts but....These scouts spend the year scouting college players. It is my opinion that some of these sites touting the use of their guides are in fact correct but they're overstating how much influence their guides have.I have much love for Bloom's work and haven't been shy about saying that. Even still, if some NFL team were to give him a nice salary and access to fancy film equipment and countless tapes and plane fare to watch any and every game and talk to any college coach and.....there's no doubt Bloom's stuff would be even better. It's just logical. However, we wouldn't hear about him anymore as you probably can't name me many of the NFL team's scouts.So let's suppose Bloom's working for the Giants and Murphy says there is this WR that he loves from a small school. Do you think Bloom never heard of this WR? I'm sure Murphy helped get the word out on Colston and deserves his share of praise, I just don't think he was the only one that knew of him like some let on. Also, FWIW, I'm sure Chrebet helped Colston some too.ETA-I guess what I'm trying to say here is GB Murphy and that he does let US read some of his stuff and all but it's not realistic to pretend that he is the sole source of research on a team drafting a player. I don't think Bloom did in that piece but I do think others around here in the past year have.
 
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I'm sure Murphy helped get the word out on Colston and deserves his share of praise, I just don't think he was the only one that knew of him like some let on. Also, FWIW, I'm sure Chrebet helped Colston some too.
He wasn't the only one that knew about Colston, but he was one of the only ones to see the possible greatness in him, and Murphy did go to bat for Colston to get in the Shrine Game.
 
Interesting to see he's got Brian Leonard going to the Eagles.

I think Leonard is on the Birds' radar screen, but not in the 1st round. It does play into my theory that Philly will trade out of the 1st round. I could see them moving down into the early 2nd and grabbing Leonard if he's on the board.

 
I'm sure Murphy helped get the word out on Colston and deserves his share of praise, I just don't think he was the only one that knew of him like some let on. Also, FWIW, I'm sure Chrebet helped Colston some too.
He wasn't the only one that knew about Colston, but he was one of the only ones to see the possible greatness in him, and Murphy did go to bat for Colston to get in the Shrine Game.
I editted that post because... well without coffee in me and morning cobwebs off, it just didn't "come across" right. I'm sure his getting Colston involved in the Shrine game helped Colston out a ton.
 

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