Jonathon Stewart (1 Viewer)

[Burning Sensation]

Mcfadden is still #1.

Its one preseason game. If we let preseason totally dictate rookie rankings, Mendenhall would not even be drafted in most rookie drafts, and Chris Johnson and Hightower would be going 1/2.

I don't let a preseason game dictate anything, but I do use what I see to aide in how I rank players. I liked Stewart long before this game. The main thing I wanted to see was whether Stewart was having problems with his toe. He passed that test with flying colors. One thing I really liked in the video was Stewart stiff-arming the LB.

I agree, i liked Stewart before this game as well, and had similar concerns about his toe. However, i had Mcfadden #1 and Stewart #2 before the preseason, so i just stated that i was encouraged by Stewart, but still have Dmac as my #1 RB.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Mcfadden is still #1.

Its one preseason game. If we let preseason totally dictate rookie rankings, Mendenhall would not even be drafted in most rookie drafts, and Chris Johnson and Hightower would be going 1/2.

Mendenhall is averaging 4.2 YPC in the preseason, so his performance isn't nearly as bad as you've been making it out to be.

Mcfadden has averaged iver 4.7 YPC, has looked good in pass protection, and hasnt fumbled. He was drafted much higher than Mendehall, and has less competition for touches. As for the eye test, Mcfadden has looked good, not as good as i expected, but good. Mendenhall has looked sluggish and indecisive, he just doesnt look nearly as good as i hoped he would. The Parker/Mendenhall situation reminds me alot of the TJOnes/Benson from a few years back. I cant imagine Mendenhall being as bad as Benson, but so far, he hasnt looked any better.

 

[EBF]

Mcfadden is still #1.

Its one preseason game. If we let preseason totally dictate rookie rankings, Mendenhall would not even be drafted in most rookie drafts, and Chris Johnson and Hightower would be going 1/2.

Mendenhall is averaging 4.2 YPC in the preseason, so his performance isn't nearly as bad as you've been making it out to be.

Mcfadden has averaged iver 4.7 YPC, has looked good in pass protection, and hasnt fumbled. He was drafted much higher than Mendehall, and has less competition for touches. As for the eye test, Mcfadden has looked good, not as good as i expected, but good. Mendenhall has looked sluggish and indecisive, he just doesnt look nearly as good as i hoped he would. The Parker/Mendenhall situation reminds me alot of the TJOnes/Benson from a few years back. I cant imagine Mendenhall being as bad as Benson, but so far, he hasnt looked any better.

I thought Mendenhall looked fine last game. He's not explosive, but he was never billed as being explosive. He's a north-south back with adequate moves and agility for the position. Plug him into that offense and he'll do well. He's not a headcase like Benson and he's not on a scrub team like the Bears. As for McFadden, he looks fast, but he has no moves and no power. Just look at recent pictures of him:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=700...&prov=getty

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=675...&prov=getty

Chicken legs. The Raiders overpaid for a gimmicky speed back whose skills won't translate seamlessly to the pro game. Sure, he'll break some long runs here and there, but this is not a guy who's equipped to do the dirty work at the RB spot. Compare his wiry frame to:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=aa7...106&prov=ap

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=822...&prov=getty

These guys are stout and compact with the juice in their legs that a RB needs to break tackles and run hard. Of course, this is something I've been saying all along. By now I'm a broken record on this subject. I just think anyone who bought McFadden should try to move him while you can still get top dollar.

If Stewart can run with the suddenness he flashed on Saturday, he could be something special. And if Mendenhall can eventually wrestle that starting job away from Parker then he's going to produce solid numbers almost by default. These are the guys you want to place your bets on.

 

[JamesTheScot]

The ironic thing about this game was that it actually settled very little in my mind.

Stewart fans are encouraged by his toe and are probably just as optimistic that he will be the guy in Carolina despite the fact that the "less talented" DeAngelo Williams did just as well in alternating series.

Meanwhile DeAngelo fans are encouraged by how well he ran (between the tackles I might add) and are just as optimistic that he won't be so easily relegated to the RB2 spot on the roster despite the fact that the rookie recovering from toe surgery did just as well in alternating series.

Both guys looked like 1st round talent. Both guys ran downhill with speed and power. Both guys benefited greatly from good blocking by the O-line and the WR's.

 

[EBF]

The ironic thing about this game was that it actually settled very little in my mind.Stewart fans are encouraged by his toe and are probably just as optimistic that he will be the guy in Carolina despite the fact that the "less talented" DeAngelo Williams did just as well in alternating series.Meanwhile DeAngelo fans are encouraged by how well he ran (between the tackles I might add) and are just as optimistic that he won't be so easily relegated to the RB2 spot on the roster despite the fact that the rookie recovering from toe surgery did just as well in alternating series.Both guys looked like 1st round talent. Both guys ran downhill with speed and power. Both guys benefited greatly from good blocking by the O-line and the WR's.

That's why I see this as Fred Taylor/Maurice Drew situation. It looks like both guys are worthy of prominent roles.

 

[-baller]

why would stewart come in as a 1st round rookie and vulture half the carries, when deangelo couldn't steal squat as a first round rookie?

do you think deangelo wasn't getting preseason carries?

 

[BobbyLayne]

Who would you have rather owned? Fred Taylor or MJD? Marion Barber or JJ?

Stewart or DeAngelo?

Like what we are seeing from Williams this year, both on the field and his leadership development in the locker room. Nothing but positive stuff, and I think he'll be productive.

Overall, I think you want the guy who is going to pound the rock inside the 10. Clear cut choice IMO - both have value, but all things being equal, I'd rather have the GL back.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Mcfadden is still #1.

Its one preseason game. If we let preseason totally dictate rookie rankings, Mendenhall would not even be drafted in most rookie drafts, and Chris Johnson and Hightower would be going 1/2.

Mendenhall is averaging 4.2 YPC in the preseason, so his performance isn't nearly as bad as you've been making it out to be.

Mcfadden has averaged iver 4.7 YPC, has looked good in pass protection, and hasnt fumbled. He was drafted much higher than Mendehall, and has less competition for touches. As for the eye test, Mcfadden has looked good, not as good as i expected, but good. Mendenhall has looked sluggish and indecisive, he just doesnt look nearly as good as i hoped he would. The Parker/Mendenhall situation reminds me alot of the TJOnes/Benson from a few years back. I cant imagine Mendenhall being as bad as Benson, but so far, he hasnt looked any better.

I thought Mendenhall looked fine last game. He's not explosive, but he was never billed as being explosive. He's a north-south back with adequate moves and agility for the position. Plug him into that offense and he'll do well. He's not a headcase like Benson and he's not on a scrub team like the Bears. As for McFadden, he looks fast, but he has no moves and no power. Just look at recent pictures of him:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=700...&prov=getty

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=675...&prov=getty

Chicken legs. The Raiders overpaid for a gimmicky speed back whose skills won't translate seamlessly to the pro game. Sure, he'll break some long runs here and there, but this is not a guy who's equipped to do the dirty work at the RB spot. Compare his wiry frame to:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=aa7...106&prov=ap

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=822...&prov=getty

These guys are stout and compact with the juice in their legs that a RB needs to break tackles and run hard. Of course, this is something I've been saying all along. By now I'm a broken record on this subject. I just think anyone who bought McFadden should try to move him while you can still get top dollar.

If Stewart can run with the suddenness he flashed on Saturday, he could be something special. And if Mendenhall can eventually wrestle that starting job away from Parker then he's going to produce solid numbers almost by default. These are the guys you want to place your bets on.

How many top 10 picks skinny legged RB's have been unsuccessful in the NFL? How many first round RB's with ideal BMI's have been busts in the NFL? There is a reason Mcfadden was considered one of the best RB's prospects to come out of college in the last 20 years. Put stock in EBF's BMI theory at your own risk.Should be noted i have invested early rookie picks in each of the top 3 RB's, and my opinion is unbiased. I may not be right, but i have come to my conclusions objectively.

 

[Avery]

Mcfadden is still #1.

Its one preseason game. If we let preseason totally dictate rookie rankings, Mendenhall would not even be drafted in most rookie drafts, and Chris Johnson and Hightower would be going 1/2.

Mendenhall is averaging 4.2 YPC in the preseason, so his performance isn't nearly as bad as you've been making it out to be.

Mcfadden has averaged iver 4.7 YPC, has looked good in pass protection, and hasnt fumbled. He was drafted much higher than Mendehall, and has less competition for touches. As for the eye test, Mcfadden has looked good, not as good as i expected, but good. Mendenhall has looked sluggish and indecisive, he just doesnt look nearly as good as i hoped he would. The Parker/Mendenhall situation reminds me alot of the TJOnes/Benson from a few years back. I cant imagine Mendenhall being as bad as Benson, but so far, he hasnt looked any better.

I thought Mendenhall looked fine last game. He's not explosive, but he was never billed as being explosive. He's a north-south back with adequate moves and agility for the position. Plug him into that offense and he'll do well. He's not a headcase like Benson and he's not on a scrub team like the Bears. As for McFadden, he looks fast, but he has no moves and no power. Just look at recent pictures of him:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=700...&prov=getty

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=675...&prov=getty

Chicken legs. The Raiders overpaid for a gimmicky speed back whose skills won't translate seamlessly to the pro game. Sure, he'll break some long runs here and there, but this is not a guy who's equipped to do the dirty work at the RB spot. Compare his wiry frame to:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=aa7...106&prov=ap

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=822...&prov=getty

These guys are stout and compact with the juice in their legs that a RB needs to break tackles and run hard. Of course, this is something I've been saying all along. By now I'm a broken record on this subject. I just think anyone who bought McFadden should try to move him while you can still get top dollar.

If Stewart can run with the suddenness he flashed on Saturday, he could be something special. And if Mendenhall can eventually wrestle that starting job away from Parker then he's going to produce solid numbers almost by default. These are the guys you want to place your bets on.

A whole post on McFadden and you didn't type BMI once!

 

[EBF]

How many top 10 picks skinny legged RB's have been unsuccessful in the NFL? How many first round RB's with ideal BMI's have been busts in the NFL? There is a reason Mcfadden was considered one of the best RB's prospects to come out of college in the last 20 years. Put stock in EBF's BMI theory at your own risk.

Simple physics and common sense says you should be skeptical of him. With that body, he's in trouble. Maybe he can be a great change of pace back. Maybe he can even be a great three down back. But three down backs who log 300+ touches every season dominate this hobby. I think it's clear that Stewart and Mendenhall offer better odds of developing into that type of back. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing whether or not my hunch is correct.

 

[Burning Sensation]

How many top 10 picks skinny legged RB's have been unsuccessful in the NFL? How many first round RB's with ideal BMI's have been busts in the NFL? There is a reason Mcfadden was considered one of the best RB's prospects to come out of college in the last 20 years. Put stock in EBF's BMI theory at your own risk.

Simple physics and common sense says you should be skeptical of him. With that body, he's in trouble. Maybe he can be a great change of pace back. Maybe he can even be a great three down back. But three down backs who log 300+ touches every season dominate this hobby. I think it's clear that Stewart and Mendenhall offer better odds of developing into that type of back. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing whether or not my hunch is correct.

Again, i ask, how many 6'1" 210+ lb RB's who were top 10 picks have not been able to be 300+ touch RB's in the NFL?ETA. I remember prototypical size were concerns with Portis and Parker when they were talked about as starting RB's. They were 2 of the 6 RB's with 300+ carries last year.

 

[Avery]

How many top 10 picks skinny legged RB's have been unsuccessful in the NFL? How many first round RB's with ideal BMI's have been busts in the NFL? There is a reason Mcfadden was considered one of the best RB's prospects to come out of college in the last 20 years. Put stock in EBF's BMI theory at your own risk.

Simple physics and common sense says you should be skeptical of him. With that body, he's in trouble. Maybe he can be a great change of pace back. Maybe he can even be a great three down back. But three down backs who log 300+ touches every season dominate this hobby. I think it's clear that Stewart and Mendenhall offer better odds of developing into that type of back. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing whether or not my hunch is correct.

If you are in a PPR league, maybe not so much any more. The landscape of RBs and their roles are changing and with Deangelo in town, who knows if Stewart will be a 300+ touch RB and with receptions in play, McFadden may well receive more touches than Stewart.

 

[PSULions]

I am just glad that the Panthers selected him in the draft. He is like a younger version of Stephen Davis, that has more speed than Davis had. Our OL looked very good and based on what I saw from DW, the opponents Ds better strap it on as they are going to be staying a lot of both Stewart and Williams.