Jordan Shipley's pro potential? (1 Viewer)

[Raider Nation]

I haven't watched Texas as much as some other teams. Shipley looks like he's got serious quicks... maybe a (very) poor man's Wes Welker? How does a second-day pick sound. Stick him in the slot on the next level for about 6-8 years.

 

[kevzilla]

Ideally suited to the slot in the NFL. Listed at 6'1'', I don't think so. Tough as nails, but will need to fall into the right system. Welker wasn't hugely productive right out of the box.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

2nd day pick, slot WR, punt returner, could be an absolute flop if he lands with the wrong team. Somewhere between David Kircus and Wes Welker.

 

[Raider Nation]

2nd day pick, slot WR, punt returner, could be an absolute flop if he lands with the wrong team. Somewhere between David Kircus and Wes Welker.

Could you give me a wider spectrum?Colt McCoy will be somewhere between Giovanni Carmazzi and Drew Brees?

 

[Bucco Bruce]

2nd day pick, slot WR, punt returner, could be an absolute flop if he lands with the wrong team. Somewhere between David Kircus and Wes Welker.

So he'll be a white guy? Got it.

 

[cstu]

He should be a good PPR guy in the NFL, if he gets an accurate QB that is. The only concern I have about him is his injury history, which is why he'll slip in the draft. He'll be a steal in the 3rd round.

 

[Balance]

better than Sweed, worse than Roy.

 

[Andy Herron]

better than Sweed, worse than Roy.

This is what I'm thinking as well.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I think people will be very surprised when Shipley runs. I don't know what he times, but he plays like a 4.45-4.5 , and he is very savvy and creative in the open field.

I expect Shipley to be a 3rd round pick, possibly 2nd, as long as all the medical stuff checks out. He's versatile enough to play inside and outside, and he can provide big time help in the return game.

Steve Breaston is a compare that works for me.

 

[Black]

I think people will be very surprised when Shipley runs. I don't know what he times, but he plays like a 4.45-4.5 , and he is very savvy and creative in the open field. I expect Shipley to be a 3rd round pick, possibly 2nd, as long as all the medical stuff checks out. He's versatile enough to play inside and outside, and he can provide big time help in the return game. Steve Breaston is a compare that works for me.

He seems to be very quick, but can also open up in the open field against DBs. Gets good separation, runs good routes, very good hands. Reminds me of Welker because he shows up all over the field, almost always ends up with the ball in his hands, and just casually tosses it back to the ref and jogs back to the huddle.

 

[candymanvandyfan]

Shipley's pretty good. I think where he gets drafted will almost entirely depend on how he runs at the combine and how a team views his age and injuries. I think he's probably a marginal sub 4.5 40 guy. He runs good routes, catches the ball cleanly and has a good sense for where the marker is. He's sinewy and strides through the catch well, which may show up on tape more than it might because he's been the recipient of very accurate passes in college. You have to wonder what he would look like with J. Russell throwing out of bread basket passes to him. He also can stop quickly, change direction and speeds well, and vary his stride length efficiently when running in traffic.

Everything robotic and mechanical that I hated about Brian Robiskie and Darrius Heyward-Bey this past year is completely absent in Shipley. He's fluid, naturally athletic and, watching him, at least you get the sense that he's been overcoached, not overprogrammed.

Keep in mind, he's not young. He's at least two years older than he should be at this point. For some perspective, he's 2 and 3/4 years older than Kenny Britt, two and a half years older than Percy Harvin and Jeremy Maclin, two years older than Hakeem Nicks, 16 months older than Earl Bennett, 11 months older than Johnny Knox, and half a year older than Eddie Royal.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Keep in mind, he's not young. He's at least two years older than he should be at this point. For some perspective, he's 2 and 3/4 years older than Kenny Britt, two and a half years older than Percy Harvin and Jeremy Maclin, two years older than Hakeem Nicks, 16 months older than Earl Bennett, 11 months older than Johnny Knox, and half a year older than Eddie Royal.

This is a good point to bring up, and it probably prevents him from being a top 50 pick in a strong overall class because he is closer to his physical ceiling than most of his draft class peers - on the flipside, you know you are getting a more mature and polished player who can contribute earlier than a typical rookie.

 

[aldelgreco]

Ship is amazing. His skillset translates perfectly to the NFL and you jokers talking "second day" obviously have not followed his career closely or just don't watch football.

He is the greatest WR to ever play at the University of Texas all things considered. That should tell you something.

When the ball is in the air going to Ship, it is considered caught the minute you realize it is intended for him.

He will be a second round pick at the very latest assuming (fingers crossed) that he stays healthy for 3 more games.

He was a huge injury concern during the beginning of his time at Texas, but since recovering from the hamstring that held him out in 2006, he has not had even a minor setback, so it would be a little unfair to call him injury prone.

 

[Longhorn daddy]

I think people will be very surprised when Shipley runs. I don't know what he times, but he plays like a 4.45-4.5 , and he is very savvy and creative in the open field. I expect Shipley to be a 3rd round pick, possibly 2nd, as long as all the medical stuff checks out. He's versatile enough to play inside and outside, and he can provide big time help in the return game. Steve Breaston is a compare that works for me.

He seems to be very quick, but can also open up in the open field against DBs. Gets good separation, runs good routes, very good hands. Reminds me of Welker because he shows up all over the field, almost always ends up with the ball in his hands, and just casually tosses it back to the ref and jogs back to the huddle.

Definitely a Wes Welker clone. I would say quicker. Not as much power. Really gonna miss him. True gamer. :(

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

better than Sweed, worse than Roy.

This is what I'm thinking as well.

Only because of size limitations. If Roy had this kids heart...

 

[Longhorn daddy]

better than Sweed, worse than Roy.

This is what I'm thinking as well.

Only because of size limitations. If Roy had this kids heart...

Quicker than Roy, much better route runner than Roy, slightly better hands than Roy, not as much downfield speed, not as tall. Shipley > R Williams

 

[Steelfan7]

better than Sweed, worse than Roy.

This is what I'm thinking as well.

Only because of size limitations. If Roy had this kids heart...

Quicker than Roy, much better route runner than Roy, slightly better hands than Roy, not as much downfield speed, not as tall. Shipley > R Williams

 

[Raider Nation]

Ship is amazing. His skillset translates perfectly to the NFL and you jokers talking "second day" obviously have not followed his career closely or just don't watch football.

The very first site I looked at this morning said this about him:

A first day selection in the NFL draft might be stretching it for a player who will never be a team's top receiver and who could be considered an injury risk due to his lack of size. However, Shipley has great hands and a ton of speed; that will be enough for him to be drafted in the third or fourth round.

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile...rospect_id=1758Not familiar with the credentials of the writers on that site, but again, it was the first place I looked.

 

[Your Mom]

I was just thinking this last night watching the game. First thing that came to my mind was Anthoney Gonzalez. He was drafted in the 1st rd. He doesn't seem to be a guy that will ever be a #1, but a very good WR. 2nd rounder.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

He looks like a Mason/Driver kind of player to me. I think he's going to have a long, productive career.

For FF dynasty pruposes, I don't care about his age.

 

[candymanvandyfan]

I was just thinking this last night watching the game. First thing that came to my mind was Anthoney Gonzalez. He was drafted in the 1st rd. He doesn't seem to be a guy that will ever be a #1, but a very good WR. 2nd rounder.

With respect, this kid's so much better than Gonzalez. He may not end up in a better situation, but he's a much better player. The only thing to like about Gonzalez has been the guy throwing him the ball.

 

[Your Mom]

I was just thinking this last night watching the game. First thing that came to my mind was Anthoney Gonzalez. He was drafted in the 1st rd. He doesn't seem to be a guy that will ever be a #1, but a very good WR. 2nd rounder.

With respect, this kid's so much better than Gonzalez. He may not end up in a better situation, but he's a much better player. The only thing to like about Gonzalez has been the guy throwing him the ball.

He was drafted in the 1st rd. for a reason. People are talking about Shipley being a 2nd day guy. Don't think your giving Gonzalez enough credit, but that's your opinion. I could be wrong.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Ship is amazing. His skillset translates perfectly to the NFL and you jokers talking "second day" obviously have not followed his career closely or just don't watch football.

The very first site I looked at this morning said this about him:

A first day selection in the NFL draft might be stretching it for a player who will never be a team's top receiver and who could be considered an injury risk due to his lack of size. However, Shipley has great hands and a ton of speed; that will be enough for him to be drafted in the third or fourth round.

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile...rospect_id=1758Not familiar with the credentials of the writers on that site, but again, it was the first place I looked.

If you do more of a survey of draft sites you'll see that 2nd-3rd round is the consensus and that his stock seems to be rising. ---------

As far as Gonzales goes, I still can't believe he went in the first after his cowardly performance in the Championship game.

 

[Doug Drinen]

The over/under on the number of Shipley-Welker comparisons in the month of April has tentatively been set at eleventy kazillion. I'm hammering the over.

 

[RustyFA2]

You could have a 6'8" 270 lb white WR coming out of college and everyone would hammer the Wes Welker comparisons. Just funny.

IMO Shipley goes early in the 2nd round and becomes a low WR1/ high WR2 in FF.

 

[Raider Nation]

The over/under on the number of Shipley-Welker comparisons in the month of April has tentatively been set at eleventy kazillion. I'm hammering the over.

They are very similar players, you have to admit. It's not like we're comparing Leon Washington to Jim Brown.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Shipley is built more like Austin Collie than Wes Welker.

Welker's short, compact build and quicks give him RB like cuts in his routes, and neither Shipley nor Collie are quite as sudden in and out of their breaks as Welker.

 

[Doug Drinen]

The over/under on the number of Shipley-Welker comparisons in the month of April has tentatively been set at eleventy kazillion. I'm hammering the over.

They are very similar players, you have to admit. It's not like we're comparing Leon Washington to Jim Brown.

Oh yes, completely. It's hard to look at Shipley and not see Welker. I just find it somewhat amusing is all.

 

[Raider Nation]

84th overall pick to the Bengals. I think it's a nice fit. He certainly won't be the defense's main focus.

 

[chinawildman]

UT alumni here. Best comparison for Shipley is Ed McCafferey IMO. You can call him possession receiver, quickster, etc... bottom line is that he gets open and catches the ball and is deceptively fast. Would not surprise me if he were like a poor man's TJ in cincy.

 

[cj*]

With Ocho, Bryant, Caldwell, Shipley and Gresham, the bengals got some weapons for palmer in a hurry.

 

[Raider Nation]

With Ocho, Bryant, Caldwell, Shipley and Gresham, the bengals got some weapons for palmer in a hurry.

AND you have to key on Benson first! That's gonna be a offense if everything breaks right.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

better than Sweed, worse than Roy.

This is what I'm thinking as well.

Only because of size limitations. If Roy had this kids heart...

...he would be nearly unstoppable. Sadly, he has nowhere near the heart Ship has, which, combined with his talents, is why Ship will outperform him over the long term.

 

[comet909]

UT alumni here. Best comparison for Shipley is Ed McCafferey IMO. You can call him possession receiver, quickster, etc... bottom line is that he gets open and catches the ball and is deceptively fast. Would not surprise me if he were like a poor man's TJ in cincy.

My thought exactly. TJ2!!!

 

[rabidfireweasel]

UT alumni here. Best comparison for Shipley is Ed McCafferey IMO. You can call him possession receiver, quickster, etc... bottom line is that he gets open and catches the ball and is deceptively fast. Would not surprise me if he were like a poor man's TJ in cincy.

My thought exactly. TJ2!!!

I could not disagree more. McCafferey was 6'5" and at least 215 pounds. He presented size mismatches for dbs.Shipley is about 5'11 and 190ish. He has great hands and is strong in and out of his breaks. He is also a good returner. This is a classic example of "Let's compare guys who play the same position because they are white." Next let's compare Danny Woodhead to Toby Gerhart.

 

[Abraham]

84th overall pick to the Bengals. I think it's a nice fit. He certainly won't be the defense's main focus.

GREAT PICK for Cincy. I think this is a fine situation for Shipley as he can return kicks early and grow in to being a receiving threat. I he's very likely to make the Pro Bowl in 3 years and have fans and GMs saying, "Gee....how did we miss on him...."

 

[Bri]

Not sure I like the Welker comparison but I will say they are both a pain in the neck for the defense. Some guys just totally get it, as far as finding the spots to get to.

I'm not confident in him 1-on-1 up the sideline but, let him work the field and..... the Bengals got a smart player.

 

[chinawildman]

UT alumni here. Best comparison for Shipley is Ed McCafferey IMO. You can call him possession receiver, quickster, etc... bottom line is that he gets open and catches the ball and is deceptively fast. Would not surprise me if he were like a poor man's TJ in cincy.

My thought exactly. TJ2!!!

I could not disagree more. McCafferey was 6'5" and at least 215 pounds. He presented size mismatches for dbs.Shipley is about 5'11 and 190ish. He has great hands and is strong in and out of his breaks. He is also a good returner. This is a classic example of "Let's compare guys who play the same position because they are white." Next let's compare Danny Woodhead to Toby Gerhart.

If you're talking size/dimensions then no Shipley is not anything like McCafferey, but IMO projecting shipley to the pros I see him much more as a make the tough catch over the middle McCafferey-ish type of receiver than a quick and shifty welker.

 

[comet909]

UT alumni here. Best comparison for Shipley is Ed McCafferey IMO. You can call him possession receiver, quickster, etc... bottom line is that he gets open and catches the ball and is deceptively fast. Would not surprise me if he were like a poor man's TJ in cincy.

My thought exactly. TJ2!!!

I could not disagree more. McCafferey was 6'5" and at least 215 pounds. He presented size mismatches for dbs.Shipley is about 5'11 and 190ish. He has great hands and is strong in and out of his breaks. He is also a good returner. This is a classic example of "Let's compare guys who play the same position because they are white." Next let's compare Danny Woodhead to Toby Gerhart.

I wasn't speaking as much to the mcafferey as to the tj. I know they're different sizes. I just mean the role that they'll play in the offense.