JPP tossing Prince Akawhatever in cold tub (1 Viewer)

[Premier]

Thought this was interesting and I can see the ESPN talking dopes making a big deal about this Monday.

Definitely some un-PC language here:

This stuff happens all the time, but what blows me away is a player on the team posting it. Thoughts?

 

[Raider Nation]

This came over Twitter an hour ago and I didn't even bother clicking it because I couldn't imagine it living up to the fuss.

I was right.

 

[Premier]

This came over Twitter an hour ago and I didn't even bother clicking it because I couldn't imagine it living up to the fuss.I was right.

Not sure if you were looking for him to rip his head off his shoulders or something, but the look of shame on Prince's face is pretty humiliating IMO.

 

[Raider Nation]

This came over Twitter an hour ago and I didn't even bother clicking it because I couldn't imagine it living up to the fuss.I was right.

Not sure if you were looking for him to rip his head off his shoulders or something, but the look of shame on Prince's face is pretty humiliating IMO.

Just didn't think it was a big deal. That stuff (and worse) has been going on in NFL locker rooms for decades.

 

[Premier]

This came over Twitter an hour ago and I didn't even bother clicking it because I couldn't imagine it living up to the fuss.I was right.

Not sure if you were looking for him to rip his head off his shoulders or something, but the look of shame on Prince's face is pretty humiliating IMO.

Just didn't think it was a big deal. That stuff (and worse) has been going on in NFL locker rooms for decades.

Yes, but it doesn't usually get posted on twitter.

 

[whatadai]

I'm more curious as to why this happened.

 

[Badgers Fan]

As a Giants fan, I've seen too many injuries to our defense this year and last. So JPP, if you are reading this for some odd reason, please stop throwing your teammates into water tubs. Thanks bro.

 

[Chase Stuart]

The internet would break if this had been Sanchez and Tebow.

 

[whatadai]

The internet would break if this had been Sanchez and Tebow.

I don't think Sanchez can carry Tebow.

 

[Penguin]

The internet would break if this had been Sanchez and Tebow.

I don't think Sanchez can carry Tebow.

But Tebow can surely Funk Master Flex Sanchez!

 

[buck naked]

This came over Twitter an hour ago and I didn't even bother clicking it because I couldn't imagine it living up to the fuss.I was right.

Not sure if you were looking for him to rip his head off his shoulders or something, but the look of shame on Prince's face is pretty humiliating IMO.

I think whoever believes this is bullying 1) was clearly bullied as a child, 2) needs to grow a pair.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

This came over Twitter an hour ago and I didn't even bother clicking it because I couldn't imagine it living up to the fuss.I was right.

Not sure if you were looking for him to rip his head off his shoulders or something, but the look of shame on Prince's face is pretty humiliating IMO.

Just didn't think it was a big deal. That stuff (and worse) has been going on in NFL locker rooms for decades.

Doesn't mean it's right. Just ask Penn State

 

[KCitons]

This came over Twitter an hour ago and I didn't even bother clicking it because I couldn't imagine it living up to the fuss.

I was right.

Not sure if you were looking for him to rip his head off his shoulders or something, but the look of shame on Prince's face is pretty humiliating IMO.

Just didn't think it was a big deal. That stuff (and worse) has been going on in NFL locker rooms for decades.

Doesn't mean it's right. Just ask Penn State

Not even close! What JPP did is the same as giving guys goofy haircuts or tying guys to a goal post and squirting water on them. If you must compare this to a college incident, then compare it to Florida Atlantic.

 

[DawnBTVS]

I don't have much of an issue with this although at the same time as a head coach, I'd be a little more worried that such a physical incident could result in an injury if Prince had landed wrong (as opposed to the above examples of haircuts or goal post tying up).

 

[VTjkru]

No big deal, it's a right of passage. You know who should actually feel like crap?

The rookies who arent getting "hazed" or paid any attention to by the veterans. You know why? Because those guys aren't going to make the team and aren't worth the trouble. They won't even remember his name or his face in a couple weeks. Prince is part of the team and is liked, this proves it.

 

[Raider Nation]

This came over Twitter an hour ago and I didn't even bother clicking it because I couldn't imagine it living up to the fuss.I was right.

Not sure if you were looking for him to rip his head off his shoulders or something, but the look of shame on Prince's face is pretty humiliating IMO.

Just didn't think it was a big deal. That stuff (and worse) has been going on in NFL locker rooms for decades.

Doesn't mean it's right. Just ask Penn State

 

[Sinn Fein]

No big deal, it's a right of passage. You know who should actually feel like crap?The rookies who arent getting "hazed" or paid any attention to by the veterans. You know why? Because those guys aren't going to make the team and aren't worth the trouble. They won't even remember his name or his face in a couple weeks. Prince is part of the team and is liked, this proves it.

Prince is not a rookie

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Weird to happen to a non rookie, right? And he had no reaction. No laugh. Just looked pissed and walked away as other players asked whether he was going to standup for himself. What's the backstory?

 

[netnalp]

Garafolo article on the dunking

 

[Bo Skiboski]

The issue is posting the video on the internet, not the content of the video.

 

[Premier]

"Amukamara estimated he landed in the tub eight times last year. He also had his shirt and tie cut as a prank."

 

[Mario Kart]

"Amukamara estimated he landed in the tub eight times last year. He also had his shirt and tie cut as a prank."

"Cause Amukamara could buy another one." [/RickJames]

 

[loqutis]

This came over Twitter an hour ago and I didn't even bother clicking it because I couldn't imagine it living up to the fuss.I was right.

Not sure if you were looking for him to rip his head off his shoulders or something, but the look of shame on Prince's face is pretty humiliating IMO.

Just didn't think it was a big deal.  That stuff (and worse) has been going on in NFL locker rooms for decades.

Shockingly, these are the same individuals that manage to blow the Millions of dollars they earn over their NFL, career and end up working as a security guard  at age 34. 

 

[Vrana]

I thought it was kind of funny.

 

[sspunisher]

Garafolo article on the dunking

I was about to share this link. You can pretty much piece together what happened dating back to last year. The comment that Bradshaw or Jacobs made about Prince being babied by 5 older sisters says it all, they think he's a punk. I don't know what bothered me more, the fact that they were "bullying" him or the fact that he didn't resist.

 

[netnalp]

Giants Fans: "We love you, Prince."

Prince: "I know."

Perry Fewell: "He's no good to me dead."

JPP: "He will not be permanently damaged."

 

[petenice15]

If this is the Giants biggest problem coming out of camp, then this season should be a great one for Big Blue.

As far as comparing this to Penn State... You're an idiot.

 

[Silver & Black]

The issue is posting the video on the internet, not the content of the video.

The idiot punter Weatherford should get his butt kicked for posting locker room stuff on the internet. That's a major no no as I understand it. As an aside, I don't think hazing or locker room hijinx should be applied to non-rookies. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Faust]

New York Giants still dealing with fallout from cold-tub incident

By Kimberly Jones

Reporter, NFL.com and NFL Network

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- The New York Giants, to a man, will admit that it didn't look good.

The chaotic cold-tub video, viewed in the singular, out of what players would call the proper context, appears to be evidence of mean-spirited bullying.

A big guy taking on a little guy. And winning. By sheer force. No contest.

Take that, Prince Amukamara: another dip in 30-degree water.

Yikes. And, no, thank you.

But this isn't a middle-school cafeteria. Or a playground. Or a kid who's just a little bit different being cruelly ostracized.

These were NFL players -- who aren't exactly like the rest of us, no matter how much we want to project -- doing what they've always done during the dark days of training camp.

This was Amukamara, a cornerback, being dumped into the tub by hulking defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul while rowdy teammates roared. The weeks-old incident wound up on Twitter, thanks to punter/videographer Steve Weatherford, who posted it Friday then apologized Sunday.

Weatherford had violated "the trust in the locker room," coach Tom Coughlin said. That, in professional sports, can be unforgivable.

The incident? If it had been featured on HBO's "Hard Knocks," as Justin Tuck noted, viewers would have been entertained and "ratings go up."

Giants safety Antrel Rolle, a leader who doesn't mince words, called the situation "silly." Said Tuck, a team captain: "If you haven't been a part of a culture like this, in this locker room, it's kind of weird. I don't expect everybody to understand it."

To know how Coughlin truly felt, consider that by late Monday afternoon, he had talked privately with Weatherford about social media but not with JPP about the dunk. (That conversation, he said, was forthcoming.)

But perception matters. The New York Giants understood how the video looked -- no one saw Amukamara drying off and fraternizing with those same teammates later, Tuck said. They also understood that the story going public was a self-inflicted wound by the punter. (In other words, the Giants could blame the media if they wanted to, but a snooping reporter didn't uncover this.)

So Monday was about owning it and owning up, which is why everyone involved stood at his locker and answered questions until there were none left to ask. That's why Coughlin, post-practice, told the media "anything you want to talk about" is fair game.

Coughlin said that one organizational objective is to abolish bullying, not tolerate it. Tuck has delivered an anti-bullying message to kids, as have some teammates. There was a lesson to be learned here.

"It is a situation that needs to be addressed," Amukamara said. "It looks like it is bullying and it looks like it is foul play ... which is why I can see (how) it is taken out of context."

Rolle said every "family" engages in "horseplay," and he said that Amukamara feels the same way.

"We wouldn't do it if he didn't feel that way," Rolle said.

Said Amukamara: "My teammates love me."

Training camps have long included rites of passages for young players. Some have to sing songs or perform skits. Others find dye in their shoes or are given embarrassing haircuts.

Tuck and Rolle said they, too, were subjected to cold tubs when they were young. (Yes, it took more than one teammate to lift Tuck in.)

Other players got the cold-tub treatment this month while at the University at Albany. That won't be happening again anytime soon, though.

Coughlin was concerned that an injury could result from such activity. "I told the players those days are over," he said.

Amukamara, whose more pressing concern is proving he was worth a first-round draft pick in 2011, is no longer interested in "pranking," saying it would take too much effort to throw another player in a tub.

Effort isn't the issue for Pierre-Paul, who could lift a Volkswagen into a pond. He said pranks will continue in the privacy of the locker room, but his days of dunking teammates are over in this, his first and last year as deliverer to the cold tub.

From here, if the Giants choose their usual path -- assuming this escapade isn't simply entirely forgotten, which could happen -- they will use the episode to galvanize, to further their belief that strength comes solely from within.

The team's slogan for the 2012 season is "Build the Bridge." It could, somehow, be forged over the cold waters of a steel tub in Albany. Imagine that.