JU attempt at 2011 top 12 rookie picks (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

There has already been some threads on 2011 picks that focus on detail information about each prospect, but what I'm doing in this thread is try to figure out the order in which these prospects will be taken in dynasty leagues that use the PPR format. Also, keep in mind the potential for an NFL lockout could greatly affect who is available in the 2011 NFL Draft. There could be a lot of folks (me included in a couple leagues) who could be very disappointed if an NFL Lockout prevents some of these players from declaring for the NFL Draft. One could only hope the NFL Draft is well before the decision on a lockout, thus reducing the likelihood a lockout affects who declares (imo).

Assuming all these players make themselves available for the 2011 Draft.

1. AJ Green (WR Georgia)

2. Mark Ingram (RB Alabama)

3. Julio Jones (WR Alabama)

4. Justin Blackmon (WR Ok St) <------------- Will he declare? Some say his draft position would be better if he waited a year

5. Michael Floyd (WR Notre Dame)

6. Ryan Williams (RB Va Tech)

7. Andrew Luck (QB Stanford) <------------ Coming back for another year of college, so disregard him.

8. LaMichael James (RB Oregon)

9. Mikel Leshoure (RB Ill)

10. Ryan Broyles (WR Oklahoma)

11. Jonathan Baldwin (WR Pittsburgh)

12. Daniel Thomas (RB Kansas St)

13. Shane Vereen (RB Cal)

Honorable Mention: Ryan Mallett (QB Ark), Jake Locker (QB Wash), DeMarco Murray (RB Oklahoma), Jacquizz Rodgers (RB Oregon St), Noel Devine (RB West Virginia), (Kyle Rudolph (TE Notre Dame), Randall Cobb (WR Kentucky), Leonard Hankerson (WR Miami Fl), DeVier Posey (WR Ohio St), Derrick Locke (RB Kentucky), Austin Pettis (WR Boise St),

 

[doowain]

Still don't get the love for Ryan Williams. He only got the starting gig last year due to Darren Evans blowing his ACL a few weeks before the first game of the season. Even after a very good year, he's earned no better than a timeshare with Evans, who has outperformed Williams across the board.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I like Leshoure and Mallet, but Ive seen them play more often then the guys you list infront of them

Icould also see people at the back of round1 needing a QB snag Mallet

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Swap Quizz and Williams.

 

[Dawg Pound 69]

I haven't seen Cal play. How does Vereen compare to previous Cal backs ? Seems like that system makes it easy for just about any RB to put up strong numbers.

 

[Dave Larkin]

I've heard some negative scouting reports on Baldwin recently from the likes of Wes Bunting at NFP. I've only seen the kid play once, and he made some nice catches, but I'm unconvinced so far. I would drop him a couple of spots.

 

[JohnnyU]

I've heard some negative scouting reports on Baldwin recently from the likes of Wes Bunting at NFP. I've only seen the kid play once, and he made some nice catches, but I'm unconvinced so far. I would drop him a couple of spots.

Not sure what you've heard, but he did have some off the field issues. There's no doubting his talent however. He has beast potential.Let's not forget about Justin Blackmon's DUI recently.

 

[Glaven]

Nice list, no real surprises. Few main differences between this list and how I think it should go:

Mark Ingram much too low. Leshoure should be on that list, Daniel Thomas should not.

 

[Bri]

Murray>Broyles

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

Just for fun this is what a polling of the Shark Pool back in June produced...

1.01 RB Mark Ingram, Alabama (70%)

1.02 WR AJ Green, Georgia (49%)

1.03 tie RB Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech./WR Michael Floyd, Notre Dame (each 38% of the vote)

1.04 tie RB Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech./WR Michael Floyd, Notre Dame (each 38% of the vote)

1.05 WR Julio Jones, Alabama (45%)

1.06 WR Jonathan Baldwin, Pitt (43%)

1.07 RB Jacquizz Rodgers, Oregon St. (25%)

1.08 WR DeAndre Brown, Southern Miss (33%)

1.09 RB Evan Royster, Penn St. (23%)

1.10 QB Andrew Luck (29%)

 

[JohnnyU]

Just for fun this is what a polling of the Shark Pool back in June produced...1.01 RB Mark Ingram, Alabama (70%)1.02 WR AJ Green, Georgia (49%)1.03 tie RB Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech./WR Michael Floyd, Notre Dame (each 38% of the vote)1.04 tie RB Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech./WR Michael Floyd, Notre Dame (each 38% of the vote)1.05 WR Julio Jones, Alabama (45%) 1.06 WR Jonathan Baldwin, Pitt (43%)1.07 RB Jacquizz Rodgers, Oregon St. (25%)1.08 WR DeAndre Brown, Southern Miss (33%)1.09 RB Evan Royster, Penn St. (23%)1.10 QB Andrew Luck (29%)

A lot has changed since then and I don't know how AJ Green isn't #1 in a PPR format. If I remember correctly that poll was for PPR dynasty leagues, but I could be wrong.

 

[No Way Jose]

Good list, still a little early....I would actually bump Julio Jones to the #2 spot, since I think the 2 wr will get Drafted before the first RB (likely Ingram).

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

Just for fun this is what a polling of the Shark Pool back in June produced...1.01 RB Mark Ingram, Alabama (70%)1.02 WR AJ Green, Georgia (49%)1.03 tie RB Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech./WR Michael Floyd, Notre Dame (each 38% of the vote)1.04 tie RB Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech./WR Michael Floyd, Notre Dame (each 38% of the vote)1.05 WR Julio Jones, Alabama (45%) 1.06 WR Jonathan Baldwin, Pitt (43%)1.07 RB Jacquizz Rodgers, Oregon St. (25%)1.08 WR DeAndre Brown, Southern Miss (33%)1.09 RB Evan Royster, Penn St. (23%)1.10 QB Andrew Luck (29%)

A lot has changed since then and I don't know how AJ Green isn't #1 in a PPR format. If I remember correctly that poll was for PPR dynasty leagues, but I could be wrong.

It was for PPR I believe. I view Green and Ingram as a 1a/1b and it would depend on the makeup of my team I think. Hopefully in FLII I won't to make a decision....

 

[DansRams]

There has already been some threads on 2011 picks that focus on detail information about each prospect, but what I'm doing in this thread is try to figure out the order in which these prospects will be taken in dynasty leagues that use the PPR format. Also, keep in mind the potential for an NFL lockout could greatly affect who is available in the 2011 NFL Draft. There could be a lot of folks (me included in a couple leagues) who could be very disappointed if an NFL Lockout prevents some of these players from declaring for the NFL Draft. One could only hope the NFL Draft is well before the decision on a lockout, thus reducing the likelihood a lockout affects who declares (imo).Assuming all these players make themselves available for the 2011 Draft.1. AJ Green (WR Georgia)2. Mark Ingram (RB Alabama)3. Julio Jones (WR Alabama)4. Justin Blackmon (WR Ok St)5. Jonathan Baldwin (WR Pittsburgh)6. Ryan Williams (RB Va Tech)7. Michael Floyd (WR Notre Dame)8. Andrew Luck (QB Stanford)9. LaMichael James (RB Oregon)10. Daniel Thomas (RB Kansas St)11. Ryan Broyles (WR Oklahoma)12. Shane Vereen (RB Cal)Honorable Mention: Ryan Mallett (QB Ark), Mikel Leshoure (RB Ill), Jake Locker (QB Wash), DeMarco Murray (RB Oklahoma), Jacquizz Rodgers (RB Oregon St), Noel Devine (RB West Virginia), (Kyle Rudolph (TE Notre Dame), Randall Cobb (WR Kentucky), Leonard Hankerson (WR Miami Fl), DeVier Posey (WR Ohio St), Derrick Locke (RB Kentucky), Austin Pettis (WR Boise St),

Great list. I generally agree with everything although the team each player goes to will change things. For example, if Leshoure or Thomas went to GB, I think they could move into the top 6-7 picks.I have what looks like will be the 1,3,4,6 and 8 picks...the #2 pick is owned by a guy that is 4 deep at RB and needs a little WR help so I would think he will pick Jones or Blackman at #2....I would then get Ingram and the rest I would pick just as you have them#1 Green, #3 Ingram, #4 (Jones or Blackman), #6 R Williams, and #8 Luck!!!!!I can't wait for this draft!!!!-

 

[Texasmouth]

I love seeing stuff like this so early because everything changes once the guys get drafted by certain teams.

If one of these big name WR gets drafted by the Rams, I am bumping them up the list since Bradford appears to be a stud in the making.

If Ingram ends up going to a team already set at RB he wont go as early. If Toby Gerhart had gone to a team without Adrian Peterson, he would have gone a lot earlier. Spiller slipped a bit in drafts because he went to the Bills, who sucked and had two RB already there.

Tough to look so far into the future but still fun to read.

 

[EBF]

I'm not that high on LaMichael James. I've seen him play a couple times this season and I never walked away thinking he was a future NFL star. In fact, in every game I've watched him play this season, he hasn't even been the best back on the field. He has gaudy stats, but I'm willing to chalk that up to Oregon's tricky offensive scheme, which typically provides him with wide lanes and easy big plays.

Of the Pac-10 backs who are eligible for the draft this year, I rate Jacquizz Rodgers and Shane Vereen above James. Both have shown me superior footwork, elusiveness, agility, and power. James trumps them in terms of sheer straight-line speed, but I question whether or not he'll succeed when he has to "earn" his yards.

In general I don't like this year's RB class. I think Mark Ingram is a cut above and the clear #1 rookie pick in all formats. Beyond that I think the other guys are 2nd-3rd round NFL draft material at best. My ever-fluxing second tier currently includes Mikel Leshoure, Jacquizz Rodgers, Shane Vereen, and Daniel Thomas. As I have said in other threads, I think situation will be key for these guys because none of them are transcendent talents. Quizz is the closest thing to an elite player, but he has question marks about his size. I see his career falling somewhere between Darren Sproles and Ahmad Bradshaw.

If Andrew Luck declares, I'll be looking at him in the 5-6 range. He is probably the best offensive player and NFL prospect in college football. The only question is how much your league values QBs. Most leagues don't place a huge value on the position and he's more of a game manager than a monster stats guy, so I can see dropping him below the top RB/WR.

 

[JohnnyU]

Nice list, no real surprises. Few main differences between this list and how I think it should go:

Mark Ingram much too low. Leshoure should be on that list, Daniel Thomas should not.

Not sure how Ingram is "much too low" when I have him #2. It shouldn't be surprising that a beast like Green will go #1 in most PPR dynasty leagues. Not to take anything away from Ingram, who is a hell of a RB, but he isn't even the best RB on his team

 

[JohnnyU]

I like Leshoure and Mallet, but Ive seen them play more often then the guys you list infront of them Icould also see people at the back of round1 needing a QB snag Mallet

I guess Mallet could go at the back end of rd 1 (12 teams), but more than likely he's an early 2nd rounder in most dynasty drafts unless it's a start 2 qb league.

 

[Concept Coop]

I've heard some negative scouting reports on Baldwin recently from the likes of Wes Bunting at NFP. I've only seen the kid play once, and he made some nice catches, but I'm unconvinced so far. I would drop him a couple of spots.

I watched him twice this year. I am not a fan of him. He is a talent, but he seems lazy. I could see him expecting to get by on physical gifts in the NFL, because he has up to now.

 

[Concept Coop]

Nice list, no real surprises. Few main differences between this list and how I think it should go:

Mark Ingram much too low. Leshoure should be on that list, Daniel Thomas should not.

Not sure how Ingram is "much too low" when I have him #2. It shouldn't be surprising that a beast like Green will go #1 in most PPR dynasty leagues. Not to take anything away from Ingram, who is a hell of a RB, but he isn't even the best RB on his team

I don't know if you can knock him for playing behind the only other RB in the coversation for best RB prospect. I always go RB #1, so I would take him over Green right now, before the combine/draft.

 

[JohnnyU]

Nice list, no real surprises. Few main differences between this list and how I think it should go:

Mark Ingram much too low. Leshoure should be on that list, Daniel Thomas should not.

Not sure how Ingram is "much too low" when I have him #2. It shouldn't be surprising that a beast like Green will go #1 in most PPR dynasty leagues. Not to take anything away from Ingram, who is a hell of a RB, but he isn't even the best RB on his team

I don't know if you can knock him for playing behind the only other RB in the coversation for best RB prospect. I always go RB #1, so I would take him over Green right now, before the combine/draft.

Do you always go RB #1 in a PPR league?

 

[Concept Coop]

Nice list, no real surprises. Few main differences between this list and how I think it should go:

Mark Ingram much too low. Leshoure should be on that list, Daniel Thomas should not.

Not sure how Ingram is "much too low" when I have him #2. It shouldn't be surprising that a beast like Green will go #1 in most PPR dynasty leagues. Not to take anything away from Ingram, who is a hell of a RB, but he isn't even the best RB on his team

I don't know if you can knock him for playing behind the only other RB in the coversation for best RB prospect. I always go RB #1, so I would take him over Green right now, before the combine/draft.

Do you always go RB #1 in a PPR league?

I only play in 0.5 PPR and yes. Granted, I have only had the pick once in a PPR.

 

[Trumpey]

I've heard some negative scouting reports on Baldwin recently from the likes of Wes Bunting at NFP. I've only seen the kid play once, and he made some nice catches, but I'm unconvinced so far. I would drop him a couple of spots.

I'd have to second this. He's uber-talented, but he doesn't seem to have the motivation he'll need to distinguish himself in the NFL. Sunseri (Pitt's QB) has done a fairly poor job of getting accurate passes Baldwin's way, but Baldwin's effort seems to be lacking. I think he'll be a serviceable pro, but far from an elite talent.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

I've heard some negative scouting reports on Baldwin recently from the likes of Wes Bunting at NFP. I've only seen the kid play once, and he made some nice catches, but I'm unconvinced so far. I would drop him a couple of spots.

I'd have to second this. He's uber-talented, but he doesn't seem to have the motivation he'll need to distinguish himself in the NFL. Sunseri (Pitt's QB) has done a fairly poor job of getting accurate passes Baldwin's way, but Baldwin's effort seems to be lacking. I think he'll be a serviceable pro, but far from an elite talent.

From what I have seen of Sunseri that guy can't hit the broad side of a barn. Not saying that excuses Baldwin, but it has to be frustrating playing with a terrible QB.

 

[JohnnyU]

I've heard some negative scouting reports on Baldwin recently from the likes of Wes Bunting at NFP. I've only seen the kid play once, and he made some nice catches, but I'm unconvinced so far. I would drop him a couple of spots.

I'd have to second this. He's uber-talented, but he doesn't seem to have the motivation he'll need to distinguish himself in the NFL. Sunseri (Pitt's QB) has done a fairly poor job of getting accurate passes Baldwin's way, but Baldwin's effort seems to be lacking. I think he'll be a serviceable pro, but far from an elite talent.

From what I have seen of Sunseri that guy can't hit the broad side of a barn. Not saying that excuses Baldwin, but it has to be frustrating playing with a terrible QB.

I'll have to second this.

 

[JohnnyU]

Is LaMichael James (RB Oregon) moving up? Is he overrated?

 

[NorrisB]

I think James is going to have nice combine stats and be ranked about where Donald Brown was. He's got excellent speed and nice start stop with good moves, I think he could start in a number of places and see him going top 6 when the draft rolls around Chip Kelly has praised him saying he's never had a back with this kind of change direction and speed.

Thanks for the list JU.

 

[JohnnyU]

Now that most FF seasons are over, it's time to think draft for us dynasty league guys. Players are starting to state their intentions and will only heat up the next couple of months.

 

[Blackjacks]

Mikel Leshoure= very good NFL rb

 

[JohnnyU]

Brandt on Blackmon - ""I thought the best thing for (Blackmon) would be to stay in school," Brandt said. "There's another case where they've got a good quarterback and they'll be good next year and he'll improve his position."

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsext...eid=20110107_92_B6_Travis852590&rss_lnk=2http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OSU/...rss_lnk=2"

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Justin Blackmon Needs To Come Back To OSU

by Royal John on Jan 7, 2011 5:00 AM CST in Oklahoma State Cowboys Football

http://www.cowboysrideforfree.com/2011/1/7...ome-back-to-osu

Ok, the orange shades have been taken off. The OSU hat has been put away. All that remains are the cold, hard facts and a tall glass of whiskey objectivity. And still, I believe it would be to Justin Blackmon's benefit to come back for one more year before going to the NFL. First, let me throw out a disclaimer. This all really depends on Brandon Weeden's decision. If he decides to go pro then I think the odds of Blackmon coming back are very slim. With that said, I think Weeden will come back. Right now, he is at best a 5th round draft pick. He needs more experience on the field in order to take the next step. I think he realizes with another year at OSU he can climb into the 2nd round and maybe even the first depending on how much he improves.

So for the sake of argument, let's assume Brandon Weeden stays for his senior year at OSU. Now let's get down to the facts about Blackmon and why I think it is in his best interest to stay one more year in college. Click the jump for the greatest reasoning you have ever seen!

First off, before I start talking about Justin, how certain is anybody that there is even going to be an NFL season next year? Talk of a lockout has been brewing all season long and as the draft comes closer, the smoke is getting heavier. Does Blackmon really want to make himself eligible for the draft and then sit for a year? Why do that when he can compete at the college level, gain valuable experience and sharpen his skills? If anybody needs assurance that a lockout is looming, look no further than Stanford quarterback, Andrew Luck. Heisman runner up. The best pro QB prospect in the nation. The likely number one pick overall . He's entering the draft, right? Nope. He announced he is coming back to college for another year. Might this have to do with other reasons as well? Sure. But don't think for a second that the probable NFL lockout didn't play a huge part. Blackmon may want to give him a call.

Now let's talk about projections. Right now, Blackmon is projected as the third wide receiver to be taken behind AJ Green and Julio Jones. Upon doing a little research, I found some pretty relevent stats. In the last ten years, on average, the first receiver in the draft has been chosen 11th. The third receiver in the draft? 22nd. That, my friends, is a huge difference in cash. Some "experts" have projected Blackmon going as high as 15th. Maybe so, maybe no. What I do know is that recent history has told us otherwise. Now then, if Blackmon stays he is almost guaranteed to be the first receiver chosen in the 2012 draft and quite possibly a top 10 pick. So for those saying he would be crazy not to take the money now, I say he stands to make a lot more of it if he stays one more year (even if there is a rookie cap).

Well what if he comes back and gets injured? That is a valid concern. But take a look at Sam Bradford. Despite what others had warned, he decided to come back for his junior year. Unfortunately for him, he did sustain a season ending injury to his throwing shoulder. How much did that affect his draft status? Not one bit. He healed up, had a great combine performance, and was still selected as the first overall pick. He also took out a nice little insurance policy just in case he was injured. Blackmon can do the very same thing in both instances.

Finally, can Blackmon add to his stock by coming back? Absolutely. If you don't believe me, listen to the coaches and media members who used to either play or coach themselves. According to those who know better than any of us, Justin needs to develop better upper body strength, sharpen his route running, and work on his man-on-man receiving...basically he needs to strive to be Dez Bryant. Another year at OSU will help him attain those goals before he takes the jump to compete with the big boys. Another standout year shows the NFL scouts consistency and the experience he gains from that year guarantees a better performance at the NFL combine.

With all this said, if he decides to leave I wish him the best. In the end, he'll do what is right for himself and his family. No doubt this is a very difficult decision to make and I'm sure he is hearing suggestions from every angle. In my opinion, I think he'll come back for the reasons I have stated. It also doesn't hurt that his parents recently decided to move to Oklahoma...I wonder why that decision was made...

 

[JohnnyU]

Make some modifications. Moved Baldwin down, Leshoure in, and Michael Floyd up to #5.

 

[DansRams]

Brandt on Blackmon - ""I thought the best thing for (Blackmon) would be to stay in school," Brandt said. "There's another case where they've got a good quarterback and they'll be good next year and he'll improve his position."

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsext...eid=20110107_92_B6_Travis852590&rss_lnk=2http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OSU/...rss_lnk=2"

Justin Blackmon Needs To Come Back To OSU

by Royal John on Jan 7, 2011 5:00 AM CST in Oklahoma State Cowboys Football

http://www.cowboysrideforfree.com/2011/1/7...ome-back-to-osu

Ok, the orange shades have been taken off. The OSU hat has been put away. All that remains are the cold, hard facts and a tall glass of whiskey objectivity. And still, I believe it would be to Justin Blackmon's benefit to come back for one more year before going to the NFL. First, let me throw out a disclaimer. This all really depends on Brandon Weeden's decision. If he decides to go pro then I think the odds of Blackmon coming back are very slim. With that said, I think Weeden will come back. Right now, he is at best a 5th round draft pick. He needs more experience on the field in order to take the next step. I think he realizes with another year at OSU he can climb into the 2nd round and maybe even the first depending on how much he improves.

So for the sake of argument, let's assume Brandon Weeden stays for his senior year at OSU. Now let's get down to the facts about Blackmon and why I think it is in his best interest to stay one more year in college. Click the jump for the greatest reasoning you have ever seen!

First off, before I start talking about Justin, how certain is anybody that there is even going to be an NFL season next year? Talk of a lockout has been brewing all season long and as the draft comes closer, the smoke is getting heavier. Does Blackmon really want to make himself eligible for the draft and then sit for a year? Why do that when he can compete at the college level, gain valuable experience and sharpen his skills? If anybody needs assurance that a lockout is looming, look no further than Stanford quarterback, Andrew Luck. Heisman runner up. The best pro QB prospect in the nation. The likely number one pick overall . He's entering the draft, right? Nope. He announced he is coming back to college for another year. Might this have to do with other reasons as well? Sure. But don't think for a second that the probable NFL lockout didn't play a huge part. Blackmon may want to give him a call.

Now let's talk about projections. Right now, Blackmon is projected as the third wide receiver to be taken behind AJ Green and Julio Jones. Upon doing a little research, I found some pretty relevent stats. In the last ten years, on average, the first receiver in the draft has been chosen 11th. The third receiver in the draft? 22nd. That, my friends, is a huge difference in cash. Some "experts" have projected Blackmon going as high as 15th. Maybe so, maybe no. What I do know is that recent history has told us otherwise. Now then, if Blackmon stays he is almost guaranteed to be the first receiver chosen in the 2012 draft and quite possibly a top 10 pick. So for those saying he would be crazy not to take the money now, I say he stands to make a lot more of it if he stays one more year (even if there is a rookie cap).

Well what if he comes back and gets injured? That is a valid concern. But take a look at Sam Bradford. Despite what others had warned, he decided to come back for his junior year. Unfortunately for him, he did sustain a season ending injury to his throwing shoulder. How much did that affect his draft status? Not one bit. He healed up, had a great combine performance, and was still selected as the first overall pick. He also took out a nice little insurance policy just in case he was injured. Blackmon can do the very same thing in both instances.

Finally, can Blackmon add to his stock by coming back? Absolutely. If you don't believe me, listen to the coaches and media members who used to either play or coach themselves. According to those who know better than any of us, Justin needs to develop better upper body strength, sharpen his route running, and work on his man-on-man receiving...basically he needs to strive to be Dez Bryant. Another year at OSU will help him attain those goals before he takes the jump to compete with the big boys. Another standout year shows the NFL scouts consistency and the experience he gains from that year guarantees a better performance at the NFL combine.

With all this said, if he decides to leave I wish him the best. In the end, he'll do what is right for himself and his family. No doubt this is a very difficult decision to make and I'm sure he is hearing suggestions from every angle. In my opinion, I think he'll come back for the reasons I have stated. It also doesn't hurt that his parents recently decided to move to Oklahoma...I wonder why that decision was made...

I think Blackmon would get picked by the Rams at 14....considering the rookie cap situation...this is bad advice coming from Brandt

 

[BuckeyeChaos]

I suspect that the order will be greatly influenced by where they get drafted.

I think in the right system Ingram could be a great ppr back. Did you see that flare pass he basicaly one handed and turned into a big gain? This is not a stone hands back.

AJ Green goes to Cleveland and although I love my Browns that has to be a downgrade over say Blackmon going to STL.

I think you get the point.

 

[J-Dawg]

Blackmon is IMO already ahead of Julio based off what I've seen. I think it would be stupid for him to go back to school (obviously as somebody who holds a high rookie pick I'm biased) but I think that he's a lock to go in the top half of Round 1 and even has a chance to crack the top 10. If both Blackmon and Luck are out of this year's draft it will instantly be downgraded while the 2012 draft is instantly more appealing to own picks in.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Didn't James say he was coming back to Oregon already? Guess he could always announce after tomorrow's game but I recall seeing that he already made a statement.

 

[JohnnyU]

Blackmon is IMO already ahead of Julio based off what I've seen. I think it would be stupid for him to go back to school (obviously as somebody who holds a high rookie pick I'm biased) but I think that he's a lock to go in the top half of Round 1 and even has a chance to crack the top 10. If both Blackmon and Luck are out of this year's draft it will instantly be downgraded while the 2012 draft is instantly more appealing to own picks in.

Did you ignore Julio Jones this year?

 

[J-Dawg]

Blackmon is IMO already ahead of Julio based off what I've seen. I think it would be stupid for him to go back to school (obviously as somebody who holds a high rookie pick I'm biased) but I think that he's a lock to go in the top half of Round 1 and even has a chance to crack the top 10. If both Blackmon and Luck are out of this year's draft it will instantly be downgraded while the 2012 draft is instantly more appealing to own picks in.

Did you ignore Julio Jones this year?

No, I just think Blackmon is a better talent. He looks more explosive to me and makes more big plays. I'm not a scout by any means and don't watch a ton of college football so I won't pretend to be an expert on the subject but based on the eyeball test I'm a bigger fan of Blackmon.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

I'm not sure why so many football writers are suggesting Blackmon should go back to OSU for one more year. The guy just had one of the greatest statistical seasons by a WR in NCAA history. I don't see what's left for him to prove in the NCAA.

 

[cdwood]

Didn't James say he was coming back to Oregon already? Guess he could always announce after tomorrow's game but I recall seeing that he already made a statement.

I don't have a link, but yeah he said he was going back to Oregon next year.

 

[JohnnyU]

Blackmon is IMO already ahead of Julio based off what I've seen. I think it would be stupid for him to go back to school (obviously as somebody who holds a high rookie pick I'm biased) but I think that he's a lock to go in the top half of Round 1 and even has a chance to crack the top 10. If both Blackmon and Luck are out of this year's draft it will instantly be downgraded while the 2012 draft is instantly more appealing to own picks in.

Did you ignore Julio Jones this year?

No, I just think Blackmon is a better talent. He looks more explosive to me and makes more big plays. I'm not a scout by any means and don't watch a ton of college football so I won't pretend to be an expert on the subject but based on the eyeball test I'm a bigger fan of Blackmon.

Yep, based upon an eyeball test Julio Jones is a freak of nature on a running team. What scares me about Blackmon is he's only done it for one year. He didn't do much his freshman year.

 

[Steed]

Make some modifications. Moved Baldwin down, Leshoure in, and Michael Floyd up to #5.

Why'd you move Baldwin down? I don't personally like him, but he's been putting up crappy stat lines a lot this year. No reason to do it now.

 

[JohnnyU]

Make some modifications. Moved Baldwin down, Leshoure in, and Michael Floyd up to #5.

Why'd you move Baldwin down? I don't personally like him, but he's been putting up crappy stat lines a lot this year. No reason to do it now.

I watched him against Ky and he looked terrible. The one pass he did catch he caught it with his body. He didn't seem to have any burst at all and had trouble getting separation at the line of scrimmage. Maybe that's why he only caught one pass. If he had trouble against Ky I can't imagine what NFL CBs will do to him. Not liking what I see in youtube videos or what I've read about him. Let's call my initial ranking wishful thinking and a mistake.

 

[J-Dawg]

Blackmon is IMO already ahead of Julio based off what I've seen. I think it would be stupid for him to go back to school (obviously as somebody who holds a high rookie pick I'm biased) but I think that he's a lock to go in the top half of Round 1 and even has a chance to crack the top 10. If both Blackmon and Luck are out of this year's draft it will instantly be downgraded while the 2012 draft is instantly more appealing to own picks in.

Did you ignore Julio Jones this year?

No, I just think Blackmon is a better talent. He looks more explosive to me and makes more big plays. I'm not a scout by any means and don't watch a ton of college football so I won't pretend to be an expert on the subject but based on the eyeball test I'm a bigger fan of Blackmon.

Yep, based upon an eyeball test Julio Jones is a freak of nature on a running team. What scares me about Blackmon is he's only done it for one year. He didn't do much his freshman year.

That's a concern of mine too but didn't he play behind Dez Bryant in his freshman year?

 

[JohnnyU]

Blackmon is IMO already ahead of Julio based off what I've seen. I think it would be stupid for him to go back to school (obviously as somebody who holds a high rookie pick I'm biased) but I think that he's a lock to go in the top half of Round 1 and even has a chance to crack the top 10. If both Blackmon and Luck are out of this year's draft it will instantly be downgraded while the 2012 draft is instantly more appealing to own picks in.

Did you ignore Julio Jones this year?

No, I just think Blackmon is a better talent. He looks more explosive to me and makes more big plays. I'm not a scout by any means and don't watch a ton of college football so I won't pretend to be an expert on the subject but based on the eyeball test I'm a bigger fan of Blackmon.

Yep, based upon an eyeball test Julio Jones is a freak of nature on a running team. What scares me about Blackmon is he's only done it for one year. He didn't do much his freshman year.

That's a concern of mine too but didn't he play behind Dez Bryant in his freshman year?

Takes more than one unless they played the same position and he couldn't play any other position.