Julius Jones Update Thread (1 Viewer)

[ko-jack]

93 yards and a TD are good stats, no doubt. However, he needed 26 carries to do so, a mediocre 3.6 YPC. If you look back to last year he did the same thing. Lots of 25-30 carry games in which he put up low YPC averages.

So what's the problem if he puts up the stats? Fantasy leagues don't count YPC. Well, the problem is that there's no way he can get 26 carries per game. Over a full season that averages out to 416 total carries. The man's liable to fall apart (literally) before he comes close to that total.

So, are you worried at all about Jones this year?

1 game is too small of a sample to get worried. this is like stating that Detriot tigers "slugger" dimitri young will hit 486 hrs after hitting 3 on opening day

 

[Ridgelake]

Would you be worried if he went 28/135/1? Thats about what he would have done had penalties not called back several very nice runs. There was little that I saw yesterday that makes me believe that he will not be a top 5 back this year.

 

[Peyton Marino]

Bump.

 

[Peyton Marino]

Buuump. 3.27 YPC today. 3.5 overall on the season. 3.6 being his game high for the year. He's on pace for roughly 400 carries which I don't think he'll get. Anyone ready to admit there's a problem yet?

 

[gigantor]

Buuump. 3.27 YPC today. 3.5 overall on the season. 3.6 being his game high for the year. He's on pace for roughly 400 carries which I don't think he'll get. Anyone ready to admit there's a problem yet?

I thought the same thing last year. But everyone is looking at the fact he is scoring, and that's all that matters at this current time.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Buuump. 3.27 YPC today. 3.5 overall on the season. 3.6 being his game high for the year. He's on pace for roughly 400 carries which I don't think he'll get. Anyone ready to admit there's a problem yet?

No. They're 2-1 with 2 wins on the road and he's getting the ball a ton, especially at the goalline.You're worried that he's not running at 4.5 ypc? Why, does your league score YPC more than total yards and TDs?

COlin

 

[Peyton Marino]

Buuump.  3.27 YPC today.  3.5 overall on the season.  3.6 being his game high for the year.  He's on pace for roughly 400 carries which I don't think he'll get.  Anyone ready to admit there's a problem yet?

No. They're 2-1 with 2 wins on the road and he's getting the ball a ton, especially at the goalline.You're worried that he's not running at 4.5 ypc? Why, does your league score YPC more than total yards and TDs?

COlin

There's no way he'll average this many carries per game. As the carries start to go down and the YPC stays the same, his production will greatly decrease.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Buuump.  3.27 YPC today.  3.5 overall on the season.  3.6 being his game high for the year.  He's on pace for roughly 400 carries which I don't think he'll get.  Anyone ready to admit there's a problem yet?

No. They're 2-1 with 2 wins on the road and he's getting the ball a ton, especially at the goalline.You're worried that he's not running at 4.5 ypc? Why, does your league score YPC more than total yards and TDs?

COlin

There's no way he'll average this many carries per game. As the carries start to go down and the YPC stays the same, his production will greatly decrease.

Are you prepared for the scenario where his carries go down and his YPC increases?COlin

 

[cowboyz]

who cares what his ypc is, jj is not a great rb. but he plays on a parcells team which means he'll have some good yardage games and multiple opportunities at tds, unlike kevin jones...

 

[doctor638]

I can't believe you people are even some what worried about this. Onto something more important. Like the fact that Priest will get hurt tomorrow night, or Ron Dayne will rush for 200 yds tomorrow night and 6 tds. Give it a break. Fart sound here_______________________. JJ is money.

 

[Futility]

I can't believe you people are even some what worried about this. Onto something more important. Like the fact that Priest will get hurt tomorrow night, or Ron Dayne will rush for 200 yds tomorrow night and 6 tds. Give it a break. Fart sound here_______________________. JJ is money.

Timmy, you're still grounded. No computer for you.

 

[Peyton Marino]

Buuump.  3.27 YPC today.  3.5 overall on the season.  3.6 being his game high for the year.  He's on pace for roughly 400 carries which I don't think he'll get.  Anyone ready to admit there's a problem yet?

No. They're 2-1 with 2 wins on the road and he's getting the ball a ton, especially at the goalline.You're worried that he's not running at 4.5 ypc? Why, does your league score YPC more than total yards and TDs?

COlin

There's no way he'll average this many carries per game. As the carries start to go down and the YPC stays the same, his production will greatly decrease.

Are you prepared for the scenario where his carries go down and his YPC increases?COlin

Sorry, but I don't see any evidence to suggest his YPC would go up.

 

[doctor638]

I can't believe you people are even some what worried about this. Onto something more important. Like the fact that Priest will get hurt tomorrow night, or Ron Dayne will rush for 200 yds tomorrow night and 6 tds. Give it a break. Fart sound here_______________________. JJ is money.

But Mommy, I enjoy pissing the big kids off. JJ is money.

 

[footloose]

I'm pretty sure JJ Marino will hang in there just fine, maybe we should be typing about his brudder Peyton Marino

 

[Ridgelake]

For what its worth, he has had about 50 yards rushing called back from penalties. Add those yards to his total, and his YPC isnt so bad...

 

[ZJilla]

another nervous JJ owner here :hi:

 

[my man otis]

He looked pretty good today. Why nervous?

 

[Colin Dowling]

Buuump.  3.27 YPC today.  3.5 overall on the season.  3.6 being his game high for the year.  He's on pace for roughly 400 carries which I don't think he'll get.  Anyone ready to admit there's a problem yet?

No. They're 2-1 with 2 wins on the road and he's getting the ball a ton, especially at the goalline.You're worried that he's not running at 4.5 ypc? Why, does your league score YPC more than total yards and TDs?

COlin

There's no way he'll average this many carries per game. As the carries start to go down and the YPC stays the same, his production will greatly decrease.

Are you prepared for the scenario where his carries go down and his YPC increases?COlin

Sorry, but I don't see any evidence to suggest his YPC would go up.

...and I don't see any evidence to suggest his touches will go down.Colin

 

[ZJilla]

He looked pretty good today. Why nervous?

it's a joke....Noah's Troopers must have said that 50 times, the moron

 

[stbugs]

For what its worth, he has had about 50 yards rushing called back from penalties. Add those yards to his total, and his YPC isnt so bad...

Actually, I don't think that is worth much at all. It seems like there are very few bad runs called back by penalties. Usually, the holding that is called is the one block that lets the RB get through the hole for a good game. So again, I don't think rushing yards called back by penalties are worth discussing as an indicator that his YPC could be better.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

His first half YPC were quite good. They just keyed on him in the second half and C-Boys made them pay for it with the long passes. If they continue to have success with the long ball his YPC should increase even more.

 

[jafo]

JJ's YPC will go up when he is able to break the long run. His longest carry in each week this year? 13, 9, & 14.Compare that with Cadillac who has long runs of 71, 31, 26 in each game. YPC=4.9Compare that with Alexander who has long runs of 36, 17, & 45. YPC=5.6Jones will get the carries (oppurtunites), and eventually he'll break some long runs and his YPC will increase. Bottom line, If he can't break the long runs, he's YPC will suffer this year.

 

[Bankerguy]

I think considering the circumstances he's done quite well. Let's review his opponets and situations:SD=Very solid Defense (93 yards and a TD) (Barber only had 60 yards last night with no TD's)Wsh=Top 3 D..... IMO (81 yards)SF-Dallas was behind 2 scores most of the game (2tds and 85 yards)Seems fine to me. He'll has some favourable match ups coming in the next few weeks (NYG/Seattle/Arizona)

 

[Marc Levin]

after three weeks, JJones is top-8 in every one of my leagues except one. He is #15 in that league.He is the #5 in quite a few, too.PPR leagues he's dominant, in "normal" leagues, he is #15 after a supposedly slow start.I am not worried in the least little bit and i think having him on three teams is going to end up as pure gold. I love him this year.The guy I'd be worried about is RB1s like DEUCE MCALLISTER - not an RB2 doing exactly what he is supposed to in JJones.

 

[Your Mom's]

after three weeks, JJones is top-8 in every one of my leagues except one. He is #15 in that league.

He is the #5 in quite a few, too.

PPR leagues he's dominant, in "normal" leagues, he is #15 after a supposedly slow start.

I am not worried in the least little bit and i think having him on three teams is going to end up as pure gold. I love him this year.

The guy I'd be worried about is RB1s like DEUCE MCALLISTER - not an RB2 doing exactly what he is supposed to in JJones.

I have had Deuce for 3 years and I am now shopping him..... can't move him fast enough!

 

[Peyton Marino]

Buuump.  3.27 YPC today.  3.5 overall on the season.  3.6 being his game high for the year.  He's on pace for roughly 400 carries which I don't think he'll get.  Anyone ready to admit there's a problem yet?

No. They're 2-1 with 2 wins on the road and he's getting the ball a ton, especially at the goalline.You're worried that he's not running at 4.5 ypc? Why, does your league score YPC more than total yards and TDs?

COlin

There's no way he'll average this many carries per game. As the carries start to go down and the YPC stays the same, his production will greatly decrease.

Are you prepared for the scenario where his carries go down and his YPC increases?COlin

Sorry, but I don't see any evidence to suggest his YPC would go up.

...and I don't see any evidence to suggest his touches will go down.Colin

You think he can handle the # of carries hes on pace for?

 

[Marc Levin]

Buuump.  3.27 YPC today.  3.5 overall on the season.  3.6 being his game high for the year.  He's on pace for roughly 400 carries which I don't think he'll get.  Anyone ready to admit there's a problem yet?

No. They're 2-1 with 2 wins on the road and he's getting the ball a ton, especially at the goalline.You're worried that he's not running at 4.5 ypc? Why, does your league score YPC more than total yards and TDs?

COlin

There's no way he'll average this many carries per game. As the carries start to go down and the YPC stays the same, his production will greatly decrease.

Are you prepared for the scenario where his carries go down and his YPC increases?COlin

Sorry, but I don't see any evidence to suggest his YPC would go up.

...and I don't see any evidence to suggest his touches will go down.Colin

You think he can handle the # of carries hes on pace for?

i can't answer that, but I can answer that Parcells will run him as much as he has been runnig him if he can.I would not be surprised to see JJ lead the league in touches - Parcells may believe in giving breathers to his starter, but he works the HECK out of his talent. If JJ stays healthy, that is.

 

[Garts]

Buuump. 3.27 YPC today. 3.5 overall on the season. 3.6 being his game high for the year. He's on pace for roughly 400 carries which I don't think he'll get. Anyone ready to admit there's a problem yet?

No. They're 2-1 with 2 wins on the road and he's getting the ball a ton, especially at the goalline.You're worried that he's not running at 4.5 ypc? Why, does your league score YPC more than total yards and TDs?

COlin

There's no way he'll average this many carries per game. As the carries start to go down and the YPC stays the same, his production will greatly decrease.

Are you prepared for the scenario where his carries go down and his YPC increases?COlin

Sorry, but I don't see any evidence to suggest his YPC would go up.

...and I don't see any evidence to suggest his touches will go down.Colin

You think he can handle the # of carries hes on pace for?

i can't answer that, but I can answer that Parcells will run him as much as he has been runnig him if he can.I would not be surprised to see JJ lead the league in touches - Parcells may believe in giving breathers to his starter, but he works the HECK out of his talent. If JJ stays healthy, that is.

I have watched every one of JJ's carries this year and he is the REAL DEAL. He is thick and can take a beating by the looks of it.He looks like a faster Curtis Martin to me....and he wears #21 instead of #28.

Remember C-Mart dropped to Rd. 3 because he was injury prone at Pitt, and he hasn't missed any time as a pro.

 

[Newman]

Wow, I would've thought that executing the goal line carries (2 1-yd TDs against SF) and his involvement in the passing game (a stated goal of Parcells this year) would've been a positive sign. I'm guessing he's performed quite nicely for owners against his ADP to date except for those of you in YPC leagues.

 

[Marc Levin]

Wow, I would've thought that executing the goal line carries (2 1-yd TDs against SF) and his involvement in the passing game (a stated goal of Parcells this year) would've been a positive sign.  I'm guessing he's performed quite nicely for owners against his ADP to date except for those of you in YPC leagues.

LOL at YPC leagues - do those really exist?See my post a bit up this page. He is in the top-8 in every PPR league I am in, and he is #15 RB in the "normal" league I have him in.

I have been VERY happy with JJ's performance so far from my RB2 spots.

 

[Newman]

Wow, I would've thought that executing the goal line carries (2 1-yd TDs against SF) and his involvement in the passing game (a stated goal of Parcells this year) would've been a positive sign.  I'm guessing he's performed quite nicely for owners against his ADP to date except for those of you in YPC leagues.

LOL at YPC leagues - do those really exist?See my post a bit up this page. He is in the top-8 in every PPR league I am in, and he is #15 RB in the "normal" league I have him in.

I have been VERY happy with JJ's performance so far from my RB2 spots.

I sure as hell hope they don't exist.

 

[Ridgelake]

For what its worth, Parcells today said that he needs to reduce JJ's plays. He was in for over 70 plays against San Fran. He is going to try to get the rookies in more plays, but he fears their mental errors/growing pains.My guess is that he will see fewer carries/plays, but will still see more than most RBs. I have said this in other threads, I project JJ to be a top 5 back this year. I have seen so far to change that opinion.

 

[14464]

Great thread guys! As a JJ owner I am a bit concerned. Yes, he scored two TDs the other day but geez, how many times will Dallas throw and the WR falls on the 1 yard line? I was currently offered LT and Hass for Peyton and JJ and seriously thinking about it. Decisions, decisions!

 

[ZJilla]

Great thread guys! As a JJ owner I am a bit concerned. Yes, he scored two TDs the other day but geez, how many times will Dallas throw and the WR falls on the 1 yard line? I was currently offered LT and Hass for Peyton and JJ and seriously thinking about it. Decisions, decisions!

Are you stoned right now? Take the trade.

 

[BGP]

Do not worry about Julis Jones' YPC.Look at the RBs that have played for Bill Parcells. Almost every year, his primary ballcarrier was under 4.0 YPC. The knock on Curtis Martin used to be his YPC, too. In the end, he should get his yards if he stays healthy. Parcells' RBs are noted for scoring boatloads of TDs.

 

[BGP]

Bill Parcells and his primary RB's YPC:

83 nyg - Butch Woolfolk - 3.5 ypc - 4 total TDs

84 nyg - Rob Carpenter - 3.2 ypc - 8 total TDs

85 nyg - Joe Morris - 4.5 ypc - 21 total TDs

86 nyg - Joe Morris - 4.4 ypc - 15 total TDs

87 nyg - Joe Morris - 3.4 ypc - 4 total TDs

88 nyg - Joe Morris - 3.5 ypc - 5 total TDs

89 nyg - Ottis Anderson - 3.1 ypc - 14 TDs

90 nyg - Ottis Anderson - 3.5 ypc - 11 TDs

93 nwe - Leonard Russell - 3.6 ypc - 7 TDs

94 nwe - Marion Butts - 2.9 ypc - 8 TDs

95 nwe - Curtis Martin - 4.0 ypc - 15 TDs

96 nwe - Curtis Martin - 3.6 ypc - 17 TDs

97 nyj - Adrian Murrell - 3.6 ypc - 7 TDs

98 nyj - Curtis Martin - 3.5 ypc - 9 TDs

99 nyj - Curtis Martin - 4.0 ypc - 5 TDs

03 dal - Troy Hambrick - 3.5 ypc - 5 TDs

04 dal - Julius Jones - 4.2 ypc - 7 TDs

Look at all the poor YPCs. But on average a Parcells RB scores 9.5 TDs.

Data courtesy: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/

disclosure: I own Julius Jones in my primary league.

 

[ComebackKurt]

Any news on JJones? Thanks.

 

[gunitsoldier]

youll probably find out tommorow on his parcell's news conference

 

[Loopdog]

it looked like he tweaked his groin to methey never said it on the broadcast, but that was the look i got from watching the gamehe kinda did it early in the game, then at around halftime, he hurt it a little worse and was limping off the fieldhe didnt play again.....

 

[doctor638]

He is fine. I watched the game. He was on the sideline in his full uniform running around high fiving people at the end of the game. I would think that if it was serious they would of had him in the locker room and not in his full uniform walking up and down the sidelines. But, who am I?

 

[gunitsoldier]

id def have to say it didnt look like a long term injury

 

[kevin^]

they had a 20 point lead and the eagles showed no sign of a comeback. why risk your star runningback to worsen the "injury"

 

[bmarks6161]

He is fine, Dallas had a big lead so Parcells didnt want to risk aggrevating anything further. Parcells was confident in the way the offensive line were making so holes so he let the backups stay in. You could tell JJones wanted to go back in.

 

[Cowboys#1]

i believe (and this is just an educated guess) that if the game was close.. JJ would have been in.. it was a perfect opportunity to rest JJ.. something bill has been keen on doing for the last 4 weeks (after running him for 30 touches a game)

 

[NJ OAK]

i believe (and this is just an educated guess) that if the game was close.. JJ would have been in.. it was a perfect opportunity to rest JJ.. something bill has been keen on doing for the last 4 weeks (after running him for 30 touches a game)

I agree. I would be surprised if it was announced that JJ had a serious injury.- Edited to add that I watched the entire game -

 

[coolnerd]

Local radio just said that it was a bit more iffy as whether to he would have played if it was say 7 or 10 point lead. Still wait for Bill P and at least try shift through his conference and figure our what is the truth versus a lie.

 

[ThePassion]

it was definitely a knee injury though correct? i was watching and saw his leg get stuck under a tackler... saw a post mentioning a groin injury.

 

[Chumpson]

Looked more like ankle/high ankle type to me.

 

[Da Guru]

I have watched the Cowboys all year and JJ is not the same back he was last season. That is suprising given the fact that Bledsoe is passing the ball well.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

He is fine, Dallas had a big lead so Parcells didnt want to risk aggrevating anything further. Parcells was confident in the way the offensive line were making so holes so he let the backups stay in. You could tell JJones wanted to go back in.

Sounds very similiar to Vicks injury last week. How'd Vick do today?