Julius Jones (1 Viewer)

[bulger2holt]

Any chance he could be the main man in Dallas and be a solid #2 rb ? 1200 yds 10 tds ? He is my Portis insurance policy.

 

[Challenge Everything]

No, pick up Gore from the waiver wire instead.

 

[packersfan]

Any chance he could be the main man in Dallas and be a solid #2 rb ? 1200 yds 10 tds ? He is my Portis insurance policy.

I was a Barber owner last season and a Jones owner this season. I fully expect the same scenario to unfold this season as it did last season - Jones to be the between the 20s runner with Barber taking over near the goal line and in third-down situations. It's possible Jones could get a few more carries inside the 5 then he got last season while Barber gets a few more between the 20s. But barring injury I expect the split to be pretty much the same. I don't think Barber scores 16 TDs again so maybe Jones picks up 1 or 2 more but I don't see him reaching double digits unless Barber gets hurt. If either one were to be the full-time starter I think they both have Top 15 potential. But should both remain healthy and their roles remain the same I think both are solid RB3s in most leagues. The Cowboys have a great 1-2 punch at RB and I don't see any reason why they would want to change it.

 

[Mozeta]

No, pick up Gore from the waiver wire instead.

 

[bulger2holt]

Any chance he could be the main man in Dallas and be a solid #2 rb ? 1200 yds 10 tds ? He is my Portis insurance policy.

I was a Barber owner last season and a Jones owner this season. I fully expect the same scenario to unfold this season as it did last season - Jones to be the between the 20s runner with Barber taking over near the goal line and in third-down situations. It's possible Jones could get a few more carries inside the 5 then he got last season while Barber gets a few more between the 20s. But barring injury I expect the split to be pretty much the same. I don't think Barber scores 16 TDs again so maybe Jones picks up 1 or 2 more but I don't see him reaching double digits unless Barber gets hurt. If either one were to be the full-time starter I think they both have Top 15 potential. But should both remain healthy and their roles remain the same I think both are solid RB3s in most leagues. The Cowboys have a great 1-2 punch at RB and I don't see any reason why they would want to change it.

I heard the new regime in D really liked JJ. I am hoping he emerges as their clear cut #1. I think he is a better back than Barber also.

 

[packersfan]

Any chance he could be the main man in Dallas and be a solid #2 rb ? 1200 yds 10 tds ? He is my Portis insurance policy.

I was a Barber owner last season and a Jones owner this season. I fully expect the same scenario to unfold this season as it did last season - Jones to be the between the 20s runner with Barber taking over near the goal line and in third-down situations. It's possible Jones could get a few more carries inside the 5 then he got last season while Barber gets a few more between the 20s. But barring injury I expect the split to be pretty much the same. I don't think Barber scores 16 TDs again so maybe Jones picks up 1 or 2 more but I don't see him reaching double digits unless Barber gets hurt. If either one were to be the full-time starter I think they both have Top 15 potential. But should both remain healthy and their roles remain the same I think both are solid RB3s in most leagues. The Cowboys have a great 1-2 punch at RB and I don't see any reason why they would want to change it.

I heard the new regime in D really liked JJ. I am hoping he emerges as their clear cut #1. I think he is a better back than Barber also.

I think they're both very talented RBs who could excel as starters. But again, I think the Cowboys have a good thing going so there's no reason to change anything. As much as I'd like Jones to take over being a Jones owner I don't think it happens barring an injury. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

[Challenge Everything]

Any chance he could be the main man in Dallas and be a solid #2 rb ? 1200 yds 10 tds ? He is my Portis insurance policy.

I was a Barber owner last season and a Jones owner this season. I fully expect the same scenario to unfold this season as it did last season - Jones to be the between the 20s runner with Barber taking over near the goal line and in third-down situations. It's possible Jones could get a few more carries inside the 5 then he got last season while Barber gets a few more between the 20s. But barring injury I expect the split to be pretty much the same. I don't think Barber scores 16 TDs again so maybe Jones picks up 1 or 2 more but I don't see him reaching double digits unless Barber gets hurt. If either one were to be the full-time starter I think they both have Top 15 potential. But should both remain healthy and their roles remain the same I think both are solid RB3s in most leagues. The Cowboys have a great 1-2 punch at RB and I don't see any reason why they would want to change it.

I heard the new regime in D really liked JJ. I am hoping he emerges as their clear cut #1. I think he is a better back than Barber also.

I think they're both very talented RBs who could excel as starters. But again, I think the Cowboys have a good thing going so there's no reason to change anything. As much as I'd like Jones to take over being a Jones owner I don't think it happens barring an injury. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Quit talking about Jones/Barber. The answer lies in Gore. He is the sleeper this year that is still on most waiver wires except for deep leagues.

 

[bulger2holt]

Any chance he could be the main man in Dallas and be a solid #2 rb ? 1200 yds 10 tds ? He is my Portis insurance policy.

I was a Barber owner last season and a Jones owner this season. I fully expect the same scenario to unfold this season as it did last season - Jones to be the between the 20s runner with Barber taking over near the goal line and in third-down situations. It's possible Jones could get a few more carries inside the 5 then he got last season while Barber gets a few more between the 20s. But barring injury I expect the split to be pretty much the same. I don't think Barber scores 16 TDs again so maybe Jones picks up 1 or 2 more but I don't see him reaching double digits unless Barber gets hurt. If either one were to be the full-time starter I think they both have Top 15 potential. But should both remain healthy and their roles remain the same I think both are solid RB3s in most leagues. The Cowboys have a great 1-2 punch at RB and I don't see any reason why they would want to change it.

I heard the new regime in D really liked JJ. I am hoping he emerges as their clear cut #1. I think he is a better back than Barber also.

I think they're both very talented RBs who could excel as starters. But again, I think the Cowboys have a good thing going so there's no reason to change anything. As much as I'd like Jones to take over being a Jones owner I don't think it happens barring an injury. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Quit talking about Jones/Barber. The answer lies in Gore. He is the sleeper this year that is still on most waiver wires except for deep leagues.

It wasnt funny the first time

 

[Challenge Everything]

It wasnt funny the first time

Yes, yes it was. Try the search function.

 

[wilson2112]

Any chance he could be the main man in Dallas and be a solid #2 rb ? 1200 yds 10 tds ? He is my Portis insurance policy.

I was a Barber owner last season and a Jones owner this season. I fully expect the same scenario to unfold this season as it did last season - Jones to be the between the 20s runner with Barber taking over near the goal line and in third-down situations. It's possible Jones could get a few more carries inside the 5 then he got last season while Barber gets a few more between the 20s. But barring injury I expect the split to be pretty much the same. I don't think Barber scores 16 TDs again so maybe Jones picks up 1 or 2 more but I don't see him reaching double digits unless Barber gets hurt. If either one were to be the full-time starter I think they both have Top 15 potential. But should both remain healthy and their roles remain the same I think both are solid RB3s in most leagues. The Cowboys have a great 1-2 punch at RB and I don't see any reason why they would want to change it.

I heard the new regime in D really liked JJ. I am hoping he emerges as their clear cut #1. I think he is a better back than Barber also.

I think they're both very talented RBs who could excel as starters. But again, I think the Cowboys have a good thing going so there's no reason to change anything. As much as I'd like Jones to take over being a Jones owner I don't think it happens barring an injury. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Quit talking about Jones/Barber. The answer lies in Gore. He is the sleeper this year that is still on most waiver wires except for deep leagues.

It wasnt funny the first time

 

[Jeff Haseley]

As far as Jones being the better back - I disagree. Barber is a better pass-catcher, has a better nose for the end zone and will give more of an effort on every play. Jones appears to just go through the motions, he doesn't create the hole, he finds it or doesn't find it at all. I would not be surprised to see Wade Phillips decide on using a one-back approach at some time during the season. My instinct tells me it will be Barber getting the nod. Surprisingly, I liken Barber to Steven Jackson. He has that same desire when he runs and his pass-catching abilities are very impressive despite not having big numbers in that area. Just my opinion, but Barber has really impressed me in the pre-season as well as the tail end of the 2006 season.

 

[packersfan]

As far as Jones being the better back - I disagree. Barber is a better pass-catcher, has a better nose for the end zone and will give more of an effort on every play. Jones appears to just go through the motions, he doesn't create the hole, he finds it or doesn't find it at all. I would not be surprised to see Wade Phillips decide on using a one-back approach at some time during the season. My instinct tells me it will be Barber getting the nod. Surprisingly, I liken Barber to Steven Jackson. He has that same desire when he runs and his pass-catching abilities are very impressive despite not having big numbers in that area. Just my opinion, but Barber has really impressed me in the pre-season as well as the tail end of the 2006 season.

I don't see anything changing barring injury. Why would the Cowboys change something that worked so well? Jones rushed for over 1,000 yards, played all 16 games and Barber hammered in for 16 TDs. That 1-2 punch is one of the team's biggest strengths. As someone who owned Barber last season I remember hearing plenty of people say they thought Barber was the better RB and at some point he'd take over as the starter. I never believed it then and I don't believe it now. And that has nothing to do with Barber but rather due to the fact using both was a strength of the team and not something that needs to be fixed.All of the indications so far coming out of Dallas are that the roles for both will remain the same. As much as Jones or Barber owners may hope that their guy becomes the unquestioned feature RB the reality is those owners should prepare for another season similar to what we saw in 2006 in terms of the split in carries.

 

[GoinDeep]

Any chance he could be the main man in Dallas and be a solid #2 rb ? 1200 yds 10 tds ? He is my Portis insurance policy.

I'm in he same boat. I have JJones as my Portis policy. I really think JJ is going to emerge as the solid #1 this year. I think he will get more opportunities inside the 20's. The split should still be the same, but I don't think it will be so much Barber just in 3rd downs and in red zone. I think he'll get entire series and they will let the RB at the time take the carries regardless of field position.With that being said....I'm having a hard time deciding on who to start week 1. I just can't see Portis being a 20-25 carry back without any preseason carries and the Giants run D is weaker than Miamis.Eh...guess I'll still go Portis.

 

[bulger2holt]

Any chance he could be the main man in Dallas and be a solid #2 rb ? 1200 yds 10 tds ? He is my Portis insurance policy.

I'm in he same boat. I have JJones as my Portis policy. I really think JJ is going to emerge as the solid #1 this year. I think he will get more opportunities inside the 20's. The split should still be the same, but I don't think it will be so much Barber just in 3rd downs and in red zone. I think he'll get entire series and they will let the RB at the time take the carries regardless of field position.With that being said....I'm having a hard time deciding on who to start week 1. I just can't see Portis being a 20-25 carry back without any preseason carries and the Giants run D is weaker than Miamis.Eh...guess I'll still go Portis.

I am also going with Portis. I am going to ride him untill he is officially broke. I also have sjax, Peterson, chester taylor along with j.jones. We start two and play a flex, so I really need three starters out of those 5 guys

 

[Defenze]

Any chance he could be the main man in Dallas and be a solid #2 rb ? 1200 yds 10 tds ? He is my Portis insurance policy.

I was a Barber owner last season and a Jones owner this season. I fully expect the same scenario to unfold this season as it did last season - Jones to be the between the 20s runner with Barber taking over near the goal line and in third-down situations. It's possible Jones could get a few more carries inside the 5 then he got last season while Barber gets a few more between the 20s. But barring injury I expect the split to be pretty much the same. I don't think Barber scores 16 TDs again so maybe Jones picks up 1 or 2 more but I don't see him reaching double digits unless Barber gets hurt. If either one were to be the full-time starter I think they both have Top 15 potential. But should both remain healthy and their roles remain the same I think both are solid RB3s in most leagues. The Cowboys have a great 1-2 punch at RB and I don't see any reason why they would want to change it.

I heard the new regime in D really liked JJ. I am hoping he emerges as their clear cut #1. I think he is a better back than Barber also.

I think they're both very talented RBs who could excel as starters. But again, I think the Cowboys have a good thing going so there's no reason to change anything. As much as I'd like Jones to take over being a Jones owner I don't think it happens barring an injury. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Quit talking about Jones/Barber. The answer lies in Gore. He is the sleeper this year that is still on most waiver wires except for deep leagues.

It wasnt funny the first time

It was funny the first time. Second time?.............reaching.

 

[teamroc]

It was funny the first time. Second time?.............reaching.

It was lame both times.

 

[Challenge Everything]

It was funny the first time. Second time?.............reaching.

It was lame both times.

Try searching than you wont get funny responses to dumb threads.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I've been drafting JJ in late 5th / early 6th all year... that awesome value for an RB #3... I think last year was a low for him, he should do better... the Tuna had man love for Barber III; now theres a fresh start.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

i drafted him as rb4 in two leagues where i can play 3 rb's..hoping he'll work his way into my starting line up. i want to see how the load shakes out before i consider it though. in my case that means sitting him for jacobs and lewis.

 

[Resident A]

I also have JJ on my bench as Portis insurance.

I had JJ rated ahead of MB3 this year & really don't care which Dallas RB is more talented or what happened in 06'. I think JJ will be the higher scoring Dallas RB this year. I look for JJ to hit 1100 yards & 8-9 TDs.

It also helps that I was able to get JJ in the 6th round, when MB3 went in the 3rd.

 

[mdog1967]

I also have JJ on my bench as Portis insurance. I had JJ rated ahead of MB3 this year & really don't care which Dallas RB is more talented or what happened in 06'. I think JJ will be the higher scoring Dallas RB this year. I look for JJ to hit 1100 yards & 8-9 TDs.It also helps that I was able to get JJ in the 6th round, when MB3 went in the 3rd.

If I were a team like the Ravens then MB the third would be my back of choice, a solid late game power runner. For most offensive schemes I would select JJ. He is faster to the outside, maybe not as tough inside, blocks better and can catch the ball as well as any back in the league. My concern is not that JJ is more or less talented than Barber, I think he is quite a bit more. My problem is the intensity of play. Barber seems to make up for the lack of speed and blocking ability by just giving more effort. JJ seems a little distant form the game. Contract year, the propensity of teams to use a single back for majority of carries, due to the predictability of the offensive play when either back "A" or "B" is in the lineup. Barber in the linupe means run more times than not. Barber gets pancacked by most DL and DB's and must resort to cut blocking, that works for about a play or two before you piss the pass rusher off and he waits for an oppertunity to take your head off. 16 TD's unlikley to happen again. Barber is being drafted ahead of JJ. The backup is being selected ahead of the starter. I think your numbers are actually a little low for JJ. Barber will make a fine occasional goal line back this year and have a good couple of games. Unless JJ gets hurt I would expect 1300 yards and 12 TD's. I beleive for a whole host of reasons that JJ will be given every chance to carry the ball the length of the field this year and will exceed. If not Dallas could do much worse than having Barber and Thompson waiting in the wings, I think any back this year in Dallas could fair well. JJ's got the first shot. JJ is known locally as a Jones favorite and if you know anything about Jerry Jones its he will get what he wants, I beleive he wants JJ to far exceed last years stats. Remember Jerry Jones and company selected JJ ahead of (gulp) Steven Jackson. Jerry dont like to be wrong.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

JJ is known locally as a Jones favorite and if you know anything about Jerry Jones its he will get what he wants, I beleive he wants JJ to far exceed last years stats. Remember Jerry Jones and company selected JJ ahead of (gulp) Steven Jackson. Jerry dont like to be wrong.

This is a lot of why I wanted Owens this year, too..though only got him in 1 league -- Jones was obviously a much easier get.

 

[Resident A]

Unless JJ gets hurt I would expect 1300 yards and 12 TD's. I beleive for a whole host of reasons that JJ will be given every chance to carry the ball the length of the field this year and will exceed.

I love your optimism & hope JJ hits those numbers, but I just think the TD total is too high unless Barber only gets 5 TDs or less.

 

[Righetti]

IRVING -- There is an anger within Julius Jones that is almost palpable. A chip the size of a small boulder sits on his shoulder. And even when he flashes his disarming smile you're not totally comfortable.Try as he may, all the things that have been said and written about him since the Cowboys passed on St. Louis Rams running back Steven Jackson in the 2004 draft continue to bug him."Other things off the field are out of my control," Jones said. "Only thing I can do is on the field and let my actions speak. If I'm angry on the field, maybe that shows."And it does. Without fail."I'm always angry on the field. I play angry," Jones said. "It's just how I play. I'm not a nice guy on the field at all."Don't bank on that changing.The Cowboys running back enters his fourth year in the NFL knowing that every compliment that is paid to him is laden with qualifiers, and a doubt or two. But in the biggest season of his life he's set to delete all the qualifiers, and prove to his employers he's worth a big investment."No, it's not just another year," Jones said.Never is when you're scheduled to be a free agent at the end of the season."I want to stay here and play for the Cowboys," Jones said. "I gotta prove that I'm good enough to be here and that they don't need anybody else except who we have."It's always something with Julius Jones. Always something to prove.In Year 1, he had to prove to his highly critical coach, Bill Parcells, that he wasn't just an injury-prone rookie.In Year 2, he wasn't helped when a high ankle sprain dogged him all season. He had one 100-yard game, in Week 16.In Year 3, Parcells had him labeled as a back who needed to limit his carries so he wouldn't wear down. In sharing time with Marion Barber, Jones averaged 16.7 carries per game, but he was injury-free, and rushed for 1,084 yards.He was the first Cowboys' back to rush for more than 1,000 yards since Emmitt Smith in 2001. When Jones eclipsed the mark Dec. 16 at Atlanta, the look on his face screamed "Finally!""Yeah, that was [big]," Jones said. "Like I said, there are still questions at the beginning of the year about me, so it continues. I've obviously got more to prove."With the plan set for Jones to share the load with Barber again, Jones at least needs to maintain status quo. Maybe more.He's no different than any potential free agent who eyes the type of payday that could set him for life. But he's no fool. Share-the-load backs don't receive the type of money the single, feature back does. With two first-round draft picks next year, the Cowboys could always spend one on a running back... say, Darren McFadden from Arkansas. Or the Cowboys could pursue a back such as Chargers backup running back Michael Turner.And every now and again he's bound to hear disgruntled fans who insist the Cowboys would have been better had they taken Jackson and not traded out of the first round in 2004.Add it up, and sometimes Julius Jones looks as if he's a little ticked."I think all of the above," Cowboys tight end Jason Witten said. "It's Marion playing well. It's his fourth year, and if he gains over 1,000 yards I think he thinks he can have a good year and be a staple as one of the best in the league."Jones spent the off-season not in North Texas but in greater Phoenix to do his workouts and conditioning. Teammates say it's no big deal; he was here for the team activities and camps. That's the big deal.He spent the off-season celebrating that he no longer plays for a coach who he said had him running like a robot, not to mention policed his carries."I'm just running on my instincts pretty much," Jones said. "I'm letting the line do what they do. I'm running where I'm supposed to go and, after that, I'm letting it happen."There is a feeling of finality for Jones' season. He will either be, or he won't be.As a result, he will be here, or elsewhere next season.All he has to prove, he said, is, "That they don't need anybody else."JULIUS JONES' IMPACTJulius Jones believes he's good enough to carry the Cowboys. An inside-the-numbers look at Jones:The Cowboys are 5-4 when he runs for 100 or more yards, including the postseason.In 35 regular-season starts, he has rushed for 70 or more yards 23 times.He is averaging 81.8 yards per start.He owns two of the top four single-game rushing performances in club history (198 and 194).With 2,896 career rushing yards, he needs 596 to pass Herschel Walker for seventh all-time in club history.He is one of five players in club history to rush for 1,000 or more yards in a season.

 

[massraider]

"Anger that is almost palpable"?

Shoot, I wish I had know that before I drafted. I don't think I have any running backs with palpable anger.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

Remember Jerry Jones and company selected JJ ahead of (gulp) Steven Jackson.

Actually, I remember that they didn't, but I do remember from prior threads that some message board members don't understand the concept of trading down.

 

[Shiggy Shaol]

"Anger that is almost palpable"? Shoot, I wish I had know that before I drafted. I don't think I have any running backs with palpable anger.

Jeez, where did you do your research?

 

[texasheat]

Jones will average 18-20 carries this year and will see more chances inside the 20. This will be his best season yet. Of course Barber will be used, and used heavily... but the TD's will not be so lopsided this season. J Jones = value.

Jones - 1150 yds 9 TD 21 rec 170 yds 1 TD (yes he will more than double his receptions from last year)

Barber 12 TD's

 

[Crusaderfan]

It was funny the first time. Second time?.............reaching.

It was lame both times.

Try searching than you wont get funny responses to dumb threads.

Try ignoring the threads that you have no interest in. Then the adults that are having a conversation about something they want to talk about don't get interrupted.

 

[texasheat]

It was funny the first time. Second time?.............reaching.

It was lame both times.

Try searching than you wont get funny responses to dumb threads.

Try ignoring the threads that you have no interest in. Then the adults that are having a conversation about something they want to talk about don't get interrupted.

 

[NYGus]

Quit talking about Jones/Barber. The answer lies in Gore. He is the sleeper this year that is still on most waiver wires except for deep leagues.

Way to bring it. I think Barber is still the main TD guy in Dallas.

 

[Challenge Everything]

It was funny the first time. Second time?.............reaching.

It was lame both times.

Try searching than you wont get funny responses to dumb threads.

Try ignoring the threads that you have no interest in. Then the adults that are having a conversation about something they want to talk about don't get interrupted.

Assistant coach topics are meant for that forum. Plus, searching will answer most questions about players already talked about. Thank you for playing.

 

[texasheat]

From: Wisconsin

explains alot

 

[Challenge Everything]

From: Wisconsinexplains alot

Aint no better place.

 

[mdog1967]

Remember Jerry Jones and company selected JJ ahead of (gulp) Steven Jackson.

Actually, I remember that they didn't, but I do remember from prior threads that some message board members don't understand the concept of trading down.

Your correct, I stated they selected him ahead of Steven Jackson wich is false, the accurate statment should have been they swapped picks with the Bills passing on Jackson. By trading out of the first round, Dallas passed on a chance to get Steven Jackson. Instead, they gambled on Notre Dame’s Julius Jones (2-43), who is roughly the same size as Curtis Martin and Emmitt Smith but has more speed. The talk around Texas was Jones Liked Jones and was happy to have him over Steven Jackson. I just cant find a qoute for Jerry saying such a thing. So my reasons for JJ being a stud this year are really based on Rumor. So I dont Know. But thanks for pointing out my inaccurate and misleading statment, blows my whole thesis out the water.

 

[BigTex]

I recently saw JJ since camp started he was with TO. I don't think I've ever seen him look this good and confident. Take it for what you will.

I'm casting my lot with him.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

try to keep this way from WSIS status.. but i came across this and it might help me decide against julius in week 1.

2006:

wk 7 vs NYG 13 for 30 (2.3 ypc) with 1 rec for 25 yards, no TDs

wk 13 @ NYG 11 for 24 (2.2 ypc) with 1 rec for 11 yards, no TDs

i like him this year, but might look elsewhere in week 1

 

[packersfan]

try to keep this way from WSIS status.. but i came across this and it might help me decide against julius in week 1.2006:wk 7 vs NYG 13 for 30 (2.3 ypc) with 1 rec for 25 yards, no TDswk 13 @ NYG 11 for 24 (2.2 ypc) with 1 rec for 11 yards, no TDsi like him this year, but might look elsewhere in week 1

Just for the sake of completeness here are his other career numbers vs. the Giants:200523-74 (9 receptions, 88 yards)200429-149-1 (5 receptions, 46 yards)

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

try to keep this way from WSIS status.. but i came across this and it might help me decide against julius in week 1.2006:wk 7 vs NYG 13 for 30 (2.3 ypc) with 1 rec for 25 yards, no TDswk 13 @ NYG 11 for 24 (2.2 ypc) with 1 rec for 11 yards, no TDsi like him this year, but might look elsewhere in week 1

Just for the sake of completeness here are his other career numbers vs. the Giants:200523-74 (9 receptions, 88 yards)200429-149-1 (5 receptions, 46 yards)

thanks packersfan. im assuming those are 2 games in each season? regardless those #s are decidedly better in 04 and 05 than in 06.

 

[red]

what i recall about JJ is that during his rookie year, he began play towards the second half of the season and just looked like an animal ripping off 15-20 yards with incredible bursts. then parcells comes along and he looked more pedestrian. MB3 had his career year last year.

i guess i'm hoping for a scheme that will bring back that same burst that i saw from JJ because he looked unstoppable then.

 

[packersfan]

try to keep this way from WSIS status.. but i came across this and it might help me decide against julius in week 1.2006:wk 7 vs NYG 13 for 30 (2.3 ypc) with 1 rec for 25 yards, no TDswk 13 @ NYG 11 for 24 (2.2 ypc) with 1 rec for 11 yards, no TDsi like him this year, but might look elsewhere in week 1

Just for the sake of completeness here are his other career numbers vs. the Giants:200523-74 (9 receptions, 88 yards)200429-149-1 (5 receptions, 46 yards)

thanks packersfan. im assuming those are 2 games in each season? regardless those #s are decidedly better in 04 and 05 than in 06.

Nope, just one game per season. He missed a game against the Giants both in 2004 and 2005. I'd be astonished if he got 29 carries in any game this season barring an injury to Barber but 23 is certainly possible. He had eight games (including the playoffs) with 20 carries or more. In those eight games, he topped 100 yards five times and topped 90 yards seven times.

 

[Fantasy Fix Fred]

Barber is so much better too bad these guys split carries.

 

[Bri]

try to keep this way from WSIS status.. but i came across this and it might help me decide against julius in week 1.2006:wk 7 vs NYG 13 for 30 (2.3 ypc) with 1 rec for 25 yards, no TDswk 13 @ NYG 11 for 24 (2.2 ypc) with 1 rec for 11 yards, no TDsi like him this year, but might look elsewhere in week 1

Just for the sake of completeness here are his other career numbers vs. the Giants:200523-74 (9 receptions, 88 yards)200429-149-1 (5 receptions, 46 yards)

thanks packersfan. im assuming those are 2 games in each season? regardless those #s are decidedly better in 04 and 05 than in 06.

FWIW Marion Barber didn't do well either those days in 06

 

[Bri]

I'm probably gonna roll with both Jones and Barber this week.

Any team that established the run early last year really hurt the Giants as those DEs had to play honest. Tuck(injury) and Kiwi(out of position) are relatively inexperienced, their DTs are OK but they can be pushed around....don't ya see them running to that side?

They couldn't block Pierce last year but.....just the same I'm probably going with both RBs.

I do think both Kiwi and Tuck will be fine as the season progresses, it's just early

 

[bulger2holt]

Barber is so much better too bad these guys split carries.

Not even

 

[SSOG]

Remember Jerry Jones and company selected JJ ahead of (gulp) Steven Jackson.

Actually, I remember that they didn't, but I do remember from prior threads that some message board members don't understand the concept of trading down.

Your correct, I stated they selected him ahead of Steven Jackson wich is false, the accurate statment should have been they swapped picks with the Bills passing on Jackson. By trading out of the first round, Dallas passed on a chance to get Steven Jackson. Instead, they gambled on Notre Dame’s Julius Jones (2-43), who is roughly the same size as Curtis Martin and Emmitt Smith but has more speed. The talk around Texas was Jones Liked Jones and was happy to have him over Steven Jackson. I just cant find a qoute for Jerry saying such a thing. So my reasons for JJ being a stud this year are really based on Rumor. So I dont Know. But thanks for pointing out my inaccurate and misleading statment, blows my whole thesis out the water.

That's not how I remember it. As I recall, they were desperately hoping Tatum Bell would fall to them, and were upset when they were forced to settle for Julius Jones, instead, as Tatum went two picks earlier to Denver.

 

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No, pick up Gore from the waiver wire instead.

That might work in your league with 4 teams, You, Your Dog, and the two 90 year old ladies accross the street