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Just drafted 7 straight RBs rounds 5-11 (1 Viewer)

prgromek said:
going into my drafts this year, my philosophy was to wait on RBs too. But it seems like everyone else also wants to wait too and grab the top WRs early, so I've seen some ridiculous value in the first couple rounds for RBs. I've been getting guys like Gore/D-Will at the turn and Jacobs late in the 3rd in a PPR.
:thumbup: An overall strategy is a good thing, but if you aren't willing to read the draft and adapt if needed you could find yourself trying to catch up all night.
 
keep us posted.
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Bro, I don't give a #### what anyone here thinks about the MY draft. I'm just posting to show the board what is available for waiting in the draft in what is a pretty good example of a 12 team league. I won't be updating the board during the year on my progress, or putting my team in my sig, or any other bull#### like that. I DO NOT CARE if you approve. I'm sure you are superior to my FFL skills so I could never compete with you. For the others, they may actually like to see what can happen taking 7 straight RBs in the mid rounds. Perhaps you could post the time you did the same????
apparently when you take 7 straight RB's, you get 7 straight RB's.PIN IT.
For someone who does not care about the thread you sure seem to care a lot about this thread.
 
In theory this concept sounds great but in practice I really don't want to have a roster full of 100-200 carry RBs and choosing which 2 scrubs to start every week. And probably not picking the best 2 every week because it's kind of like playing whack-a-mole.
So you'd rather choose between relative scrubs at the wr position? Qb? te? Everybody has to make these choices at some position.
 
I did the same thing in my draft on Saturday I had the 11th pick out of 12 non ppr start 1Qb,2rb,2wr,1te,1k,1dst then a flex (rb,wr,te) All the better backs were gone (d-Will, s-jax, and LT) and there is no way I take a guy like Slaton or Chris Johnson or Gore over Fitz and Randy, so with my first 2 picks I went Moss,and Fitz. Then picks 3-6 all Rb's Ryan Grant, Kevin Smith Ray Rice and Moreno.

Here is my team I really think its solid and the way to go if you get the 11th pick and the WR value is there.

Fitz

Randy moss

D Mason

D Avery

Ryan Grant

Kevin Smith

Ray Rice

Knoshown

Ahmad Bradshaw

Culter

Delhomme

Olsen

Sheffler

Chargers, Jeff Reed.

 
I did something similar. After MJD in the 1st, it wasn't until 7th/8th that I took Benson/Rice as my 2 and 3 rb.

When you take QB early, it's almost forces your hand. I took Brees in the 2nd.

 
There's definitely something strange with this year's player pool. I think it is the first time I have 3 WR's projected to score more points then the top rated RB in a PPR redraft format.

 
flranger said:
Typical non PPR league, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE/K/DEF starters. 12 team NON PPR. 6 pt QB TDThis is not intended as a look at me. It's only listed to show how you can load up on RBs in this years draft late:Round:5: Rice6: Bush7: Moreno8: Leon Washington9: Sproles10: C Taylor11: J StewartAgain, please don't blast me as a look at me, I'm not looking for comments on how the draft went, I could care less what you think. I'm pleased as punch. I'm just sharing what you can do if you wait to take RBs this year. Certainly half of them won't pan out, but there is so much depth available that I"m convinced WR and QB is the way to go. Note I took Jacobs in round 2 and am hating that pick on the backside.Message to the pool: wait for your RBs this year
I have nothing against anyone's strategies, but in this case I wonder in shark drafts where these guys will go . . . In my last draft (PPR):5: Rice (36)6: Bush (38)7: Moreno (50)8: Leon Washington (69)9: Sproles (119)10: C Taylor (115)11: J Stewart (75)
In our 12 team PPR draft it was5: Rice (36)....296: Bush (38)...447: Moreno (50)...478: Leon Washington (69)...579: Sproles (119)....9210: C Taylor (115)....9011: J Stewart (75)....75And this was with 10 WR going in first two rounds, and another 11 rounds 3/4. Guys listed as mid round value picks were pretty much gone by round 5. Main value late was QB.
 
In theory this concept sounds great but in practice I really don't want to have a roster full of 100-200 carry RBs and choosing which 2 scrubs to start every week. And probably not picking the best 2 every week because it's kind of like playing whack-a-mole.
So you'd rather choose between relative scrubs at the wr position? Qb? te? Everybody has to make these choices at some position.
Yes I'd rather find a scrub waiver wire WR3 than a scrub waiver wire RB2.
 
In theory this concept sounds great but in practice I really don't want to have a roster full of 100-200 carry RBs and choosing which 2 scrubs to start every week. And probably not picking the best 2 every week because it's kind of like playing whack-a-mole.
So you'd rather choose between relative scrubs at the wr position? Qb? te? Everybody has to make these choices at some position.
Yes I'd rather find a scrub waiver wire WR3 than a scrub waiver wire RB2.
I disagree, every year there's a surprise RB found on the waiver wire that ends up scoring a tone of points. Ala Grant 2 years ago, rhodes a couple of years ago, Slaton last year. It's because there's so many injuries to RB's that so many more RB's get a chance. There's hardly any waiver wire WR's who score alot of points, maybe, you'll find one who's medicore but thats it.
 
In theory this concept sounds great but in practice I really don't want to have a roster full of 100-200 carry RBs and choosing which 2 scrubs to start every week. And probably not picking the best 2 every week because it's kind of like playing whack-a-mole.
So you'd rather choose between relative scrubs at the wr position? Qb? te? Everybody has to make these choices at some position.
Yes I'd rather find a scrub waiver wire WR3 than a scrub waiver wire RB2.
I disagree, every year there's a surprise RB found on the waiver wire that ends up scoring a tone of points. Ala Grant 2 years ago, rhodes a couple of years ago, Slaton last year. It's because there's so many injuries to RB's that so many more RB's get a chance. There's hardly any waiver wire WR's who score alot of points, maybe, you'll find one who's medicore but thats it.
What?What about guys like Bryant, Royal, and Moore last year? Colston, Welker, RWhite, Engram, SMacDonald, etc. the year before? There's always WR that went undrafted that turn out to be starter worthy.
 
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In theory this concept sounds great but in practice I really don't want to have a roster full of 100-200 carry RBs and choosing which 2 scrubs to start every week. And probably not picking the best 2 every week because it's kind of like playing whack-a-mole.
So you'd rather choose between relative scrubs at the wr position? Qb? te? Everybody has to make these choices at some position.
Yes I'd rather find a scrub waiver wire WR3 than a scrub waiver wire RB2.
I disagree, every year there's a surprise RB found on the waiver wire that ends up scoring a tone of points. Ala Grant 2 years ago, rhodes a couple of years ago, Slaton last year. It's because there's so many injuries to RB's that so many more RB's get a chance. There's hardly any waiver wire WR's who score alot of points, maybe, you'll find one who's medicore but thats it.
What?What about guys like Bryant, Royal, and Moore last year? Colston, Welker, RWhite, Engram, SMacDonald, etc. the year before? There's always WR that went undrafted that tuen out to be starter worthy.
:) Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
just want to comment that I am a little suprised that Moreno and Rice are lasting that long in some of the drafts mentioned in this thread.....that is making this strategy look a little better.....but those two for sure are not falling that far in any league I am in........wish they would but it just ain't happening.........

 
joffer said:
not sure i agree. i think the WR-early trend has gone a little overboard. i just finished a draft that had 7 WRs in the first 14 picks.for instance, the difference between Jennings and Driver was 69 picks. i just can't see 6 rounds worth of difference there. i think a RB-WR start or vice versa is the way to go.
:lmao: You said more than 3 words.I miss SRBT. Too hard to load up on WR now. RB/WR depending on position and who falls to you often is BPA.And use the LHUCKS rankings to figure out the values and landmines by doing the opposite of what he says.I am not sure if FF has ever been this easy.
 
joffer said:
not sure i agree. i think the WR-early trend has gone a little overboard. i just finished a draft that had 7 WRs in the first 14 picks.for instance, the difference between Jennings and Driver was 69 picks. i just can't see 6 rounds worth of difference there. i think a RB-WR start or vice versa is the way to go.
:shrug: You said more than 3 words.
won't happen again ;)
 
drm1125 said:
puckalicious said:
In theory this concept sounds great but in practice I really don't want to have a roster full of 100-200 carry RBs and choosing which 2 scrubs to start every week. And probably not picking the best 2 every week because it's kind of like playing whack-a-mole.
So you'd rather choose between relative scrubs at the wr position? Qb? te? Everybody has to make these choices at some position.
Yes I'd rather find a scrub waiver wire WR3 than a scrub waiver wire RB2.
I disagree, every year there's a surprise RB found on the waiver wire that ends up scoring a tone of points. Ala Grant 2 years ago, rhodes a couple of years ago, Slaton last year. It's because there's so many injuries to RB's that so many more RB's get a chance. There's hardly any waiver wire WR's who score alot of points, maybe, you'll find one who's medicore but thats it.
I employed a similar strategy last year and after getting Jacobs and MJD in the 3rd and 4th, I got Forte (8), Mendenhall(10), Slaton (14), and Pierre (15). There are always a couple guys that end up top 10 and go RB30-50.
 
David Yudkin said:
drm1125 said:
puckalicious said:
In theory this concept sounds great but in practice I really don't want to have a roster full of 100-200 carry RBs and choosing which 2 scrubs to start every week. And probably not picking the best 2 every week because it's kind of like playing whack-a-mole.
So you'd rather choose between relative scrubs at the wr position? Qb? te? Everybody has to make these choices at some position.
Yes I'd rather find a scrub waiver wire WR3 than a scrub waiver wire RB2.
I disagree, every year there's a surprise RB found on the waiver wire that ends up scoring a tone of points. Ala Grant 2 years ago, rhodes a couple of years ago, Slaton last year. It's because there's so many injuries to RB's that so many more RB's get a chance. There's hardly any waiver wire WR's who score alot of points, maybe, you'll find one who's medicore but thats it.
What?What about guys like Bryant, Royal, and Moore last year? Colston, Welker, RWhite, Engram, SMacDonald, etc. the year before? There's always WR that went undrafted that turn out to be starter worthy.
They may be starter worthy but they almost never finish in the top ten, even as great as Royal was last year, in my league, he only finished 21st in WR's points and with half the points of the best WR. Slaton,on the other hand, finished 7th in points for RB's and was like only 10 points from 2nd place in points. Grant was the same way the year before. I guess what I'm saying is you have a better chance of hitting a homerun with a waiver wire RB than a waiver wire WR.
 
keep us posted.
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Typical cynical FBG Bull ####. Bro, I don't give a #### what anyone here thinks about the MY draft. I'm just posting to show the board what is available for waiting in the draft in what is a pretty good example of a 12 team league. I won't be updating the board during the year on my progress, or putting my team in my sig, or any other bull#### like that. I DO NOT CARE if you approve. I'm sure you are superior to my FFL skills so I could never compete with you. For the others, they may actually like to see what can happen taking 7 straight RBs in the mid rounds. Perhaps you could post the time you did the same????
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.Thanks, that would be very helpful.Only posted an example so those may learn what would happen. Is it overboard, absolutly but I think it shows what can happen.

 
I did something similar in my draft tonight, it's a PPR league, which I typically avoid, so I wasn't sure of my strategy, but I'm pretty happy. I didn't draft all the RBs in back to back rounds, but ended up with a decent set of RBs

4 Larry Fitzgerald, Ari

17 Calvin Johnson, Det

24 Reggie Wayne, Ind

37 Dwayne Bowe, KC

44 Darren McFadden, Oak

57 Matt Ryan, Atl

64 Matt Schaub, Hou

77 Reggie Bush, NO

84 Felix Jones, Dal

97 Larry Johnson, KC

104 Kellen Winslow, TB

117 Dustin Keller, NYJ

124 Leon Washington, NYJ

137 Patriots D/ST, NE

144 Nick Folk, Dal

157 Chris Henry, Cin

164 Kenny Britt, Ten

177 Michael Bush, Oak

184 Jamaal Charles, KC

 
Typical non PPR league, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE/K/DEF starters. 12 team NON PPR. 6 pt QB TDThis is not intended as a look at me. It's only listed to show how you can load up on RBs in this years draft late:Round:5: Rice6: Bush7: Moreno8: Leon Washington9: Sproles10: C Taylor11: J StewartAgain, please don't blast me as a look at me, I'm not looking for comments on how the draft went, I could care less what you think. I'm pleased as punch. I'm just sharing what you can do if you wait to take RBs this year. Certainly half of them won't pan out, but there is so much depth available that I"m convinced WR and QB is the way to go. Note I took Jacobs in round 2 and am hating that pick on the backside.Message to the pool: wait for your RBs this year
looks weak, lol
 
I did something similar in my draft tonight, it's a PPR league, which I typically avoid, so I wasn't sure of my strategy, but I'm pretty happy. I didn't draft all the RBs in back to back rounds, but ended up with a decent set of RBs

4 Larry Fitzgerald, Ari

17 Calvin Johnson, Det

24 Reggie Wayne, Ind

37 Dwayne Bowe, KC

44 Darren McFadden, Oak

57 Matt Ryan, Atl

64 Matt Schaub, Hou

77 Reggie Bush, NO

84 Felix Jones, Dal

97 Larry Johnson, KC

104 Kellen Winslow, TB

117 Dustin Keller, NYJ

124 Leon Washington, NYJ

137 Patriots D/ST, NE

144 Nick Folk, Dal

157 Chris Henry, Cin

164 Kenny Britt, Ten

177 Michael Bush, Oak

184 Jamaal Charles, KC
How did Bush last that long in a PPR? I dont like the guy much, but i would have taken him in round 4, maybe higher.
 
I did the same thing in my draft on Saturday I had the 11th pick out of 12 non ppr start 1Qb,2rb,2wr,1te,1k,1dst then a flex (rb,wr,te) All the better backs were gone (d-Will, s-jax, and LT) and there is no way I take a guy like Slaton or Chris Johnson or Gore over Fitz and Randy, so with my first 2 picks I went Moss,and Fitz. Then picks 3-6 all Rb's Ryan Grant, Kevin Smith Ray Rice and Moreno.Here is my team I really think its solid and the way to go if you get the 11th pick and the WR value is there.FitzRandy mossD MasonD AveryRyan GrantKevin Smith Ray RiceKnoshownAhmad BradshawCulterDelhommeOlsen ShefflerChargers, Jeff Reed.
This is very close to what i did Sunday out of the 10 spot in a 12 team non-PPR league(same lineup requirments minus the flex). Fitz and Moss at the turn. I also drafted Smith, K, Moreno and Rice between rounds 3-6. I couldnt pass on Witten in the 4rth though, he offers such a huge advantage at the TE spot. The guy is going to put up top 12 WR numbers from a position most people will be hoping for 700 yards and 5 TD's by seasons end. Like will happen in all my drafts this year, Schaub is my QB.SchaubFavreStaffordSmith, KMorenoRiceBrown, DDavis, JScott, BFitzMoss, RRoyalBennettCraytonSchilensWittenKellerBearsPanthersDont remember if i even drafted a kicker. :lmao:
 
Burning Sensation said:
switz said:
I did something similar in my draft tonight, it's a PPR league, which I typically avoid, so I wasn't sure of my strategy, but I'm pretty happy. I didn't draft all the RBs in back to back rounds, but ended up with a decent set of RBs77 Reggie Bush, NO
How did Bush last that long in a PPR? I dont like the guy much, but i would have taken him in round 4, maybe higher.
I think PPL are scared by the knee, but early last season he was a top RB in PPR... I thought I got a steal... funny to see how some players fell, LT to end of second round, KSmith was available in the 5th ;)
 
They may be starter worthy but they almost never finish in the top ten, even as great as Royal was last year, in my league, he only finished 21st in WR's points and with half the points of the best WR. Slaton,on the other hand, finished 7th in points for RB's and was like only 10 points from 2nd place in points. Grant was the same way the year before. I guess what I'm saying is you have a better chance of hitting a homerun with a waiver wire RB than a waiver wire WR.
:shrug: When an RB goes down with an injury, his backup has a shot at coming off the waiver wire and being a RB1 or RB2 (more often)But when a WR goes down, his backup rarely makes a dent.
 
They may be starter worthy but they almost never finish in the top ten, even as great as Royal was last year, in my league, he only finished 21st in WR's points and with half the points of the best WR. Slaton,on the other hand, finished 7th in points for RB's and was like only 10 points from 2nd place in points. Grant was the same way the year before. I guess what I'm saying is you have a better chance of hitting a homerun with a waiver wire RB than a waiver wire WR.
Bryant was WR #8 last year, Roddy White and Bobby Engram were 14+15 in 2007, Colston was 14 in 06, Terry Glenn was #12 in 05. I don't know about your leagues, but in non-ppr standard leagues slaton was 50 pts out of first- and he was also drafted in every league I played in last year with the exception of 1 July draft. Ryan Grant was a PPG stud late in the year in 07- but finished #17 in non ppr that year. In 2006 none of the top 10 were WW pickups, Betts was #11 thanks to portis getting injured- and he wasn't a consistently startable RB until week 10. In 2005 Mike Anderson was #10- thats a good pickup, in 2004 there were no WW pickups in the top 10.
 
Great strategy...

...if you're happy to start VERY slow and possibly be out of playoff contention by week 6 or 7. Best case, an injury or two makes 2 of your RBs valuable by mid season and you make a run @ the playoffs. I put this in the "trying to be cute" category: a regular, proven strategy bores some of you so much you force yourself to look for ways to make the hobby more exciting, more often than not ignoring the risk partaking in such endeavors.

 
Great strategy...

...if you're happy to start VERY slow and possibly be out of playoff contention by week 6 or 7. Best case, an injury or two makes 2 of your RBs valuable by mid season and you make a run @ the playoffs. I put this in the "trying to be cute" category: a regular, proven strategy bores some of you so much you force yourself to look for ways to make the hobby more exciting, more often than not ignoring the risk partaking in such endeavors.
Have you actually looked at some of the teams posted by those using this strategy? I'm guessing not.It also depends on your rules, as in PPR leagues, the top-WRs really have more value than just about 2 or 3 RBs.

 
I picked 9th in a 10 team non-ppr league wieghted a little toward TD's over yards, and I did what I have never done in a fantasy draft before by going WR-WR-QB with my first three picks, 1) Randy Moss, 2) Larry Fitzgerald, 3) A.Rodgers.

After that, it was interesting, lots of RB's with potential around late in this draft. I was pleased with the results.

4 - B.Jacobs (a total steal which helped a lot)

5 - A.Gates

6 - J.Addai

7 - R.Rice

8 - NYG Defense

9 - L.Johnson

10 - K.Walter

11 - C.Taylor

12 - J.Stewart

13 - L.Moore

14 - J.Gage

 
I picked 9th in a 10 team non-ppr league wieghted a little toward TD's over yards, and I did what I have never done in a fantasy draft before by going WR-WR-QB with my first three picks, 1) Randy Moss, 2) Larry Fitzgerald, 3) A.Rodgers. After that, it was interesting, lots of RB's with potential around late in this draft. I was pleased with the results.4 - B.Jacobs (a total steal which helped a lot)5 - A.Gates6 - J.Addai7 - R.Rice8 - NYG Defense9 - L.Johnson10 - K.Walter11 - C.Taylor12 - J.Stewart13 - L.Moore14 - J.Gage
Looks like good value, but Jacobs really sticks out. How can that guy not go early in a non-PPR? That really surprises me.
 
They may be starter worthy but they almost never finish in the top ten, even as great as Royal was last year, in my league, he only finished 21st in WR's points and with half the points of the best WR. Slaton,on the other hand, finished 7th in points for RB's and was like only 10 points from 2nd place in points. Grant was the same way the year before. I guess what I'm saying is you have a better chance of hitting a homerun with a waiver wire RB than a waiver wire WR.
:rolleyes: When an RB goes down with an injury, his backup has a shot at coming off the waiver wire and being a RB1 or RB2 (more often)But when a WR goes down, his backup rarely makes a dent.
That's a little unfair because his "backup" for fantasy purposes is usually on the opposite side of the field. Teams already have a starter at WR who can get more looks, and that guy is often already on another team. But it does illustrate that RB WW value is often higher when an injury occurs.
 

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