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Justice Scalia Dead (1 Viewer)

Minimize campaign contributions and let the big donors fight it out in the media.  Seems more transparent.

Lesser of two evils.

If one backed media donor dominates the discourse and people follow i can handle that moreso the big donors buying governor positions while everyone asleep.

 
Wouldn't the best course of action had been "We will do our jobs, we are here to serve you."  And then vote down everybody put forth by Obama based on "MERIT" (air quotes)?   Why would they come right out and say they won't confirm anyone.  I think they missed an opportunity to look good here.   

I think the poster above who stated this is going to be the death rattle of the current Republican party is correct.  Trump isn't going to be president.  I am so hoping it's Trump vs. Bernie.  Washington is as bad as it's been since ....maybe ever.  The internet and sharing of knowledge has shifted the playing field.  

 
Given the same circumstances, the Dems would do the exact same thing.  When it comes to the courts, the Dems have been more radical in the tactics they are willing to use.  The Dems have no high horse to be riding around on this issue. 
The other guy would di it is not a good justification for your own behavior.  

 
Given the same circumstances, the Dems would do the exact same thing.  When it comes to the courts, the Dems have been more radical in the tactics they are willing to use.  The Dems have no high horse to be riding around on this issue. 
There definitely is a high horse to be riding here.  It's for people who dont give a #### whether its a republican or democratic congress doing it and think it's a horse####, baby move no matter what party is doing it.  

 
The other guy would di it is not a good justification for your own behavior.  
Actually it is.  We are talking about control over an important branch of government which could take decades to change.  Why should one side play by rules which you know the other side would not abide by.  Reid recently used the so-called nuclear option to pack the circuit courts. It would be the epitome of stupid not to fight this with every legal tool available.  

 
There definitely is a high horse to be riding here.  It's for people who dont give a #### whether its a republican or democratic congress doing it and think it's a horse####, baby move no matter what party is doing it.  
Going to a gun fight with a knife is not riding the high horse, it is just stupid.  

 
Given the same circumstances, the Dems would do the exact same thing.  When it comes to the courts, the Dems have been more radical in the tactics they are willing to use.  The Dems have no high horse to be riding around on this issue. 
Except the Dems have never not allowed a Republican president to eventually pass a nominee.

Kind of a major distinction don't you think?

 
I'm  pretty close to the farthest thing from a Scalia supporter but it's utterly classless for Obama to skip his funeral on a Saturday with no stated excuse.  

 
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Get Borked, I hope they block whoever he nominates and the GOP explodes and they take this joke of a court with them . Partisan scum bag lawyers.

 
I'm  pretty close to the farthest thing from a Scalia supporter but it's utterly classless for Obama to skip his funeral on a Saturday with no stated excuse.  
Might have had to do with the situation.  He went today to pay his respects, to a guy that was never on his side but well respected anyway.  Obama Administration generally overthinks everything but having him front and center at the SCOTUS Judge most far to the right, was not a good idea in any way.  Scalia deserves to RIP without the :bs: which he never really appreciated.  POTUS got this one right. 

 
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Get Borked, I hope they block whoever he nominates and the GOP explodes and they take this joke of a court with them . Partisan scum bag lawyers.
Just ran this through the English translator because I don't understand gutter English.  Here is what it came back with:

Obter Borked , espero que bloquean sexa el quen nomea e estoura GOP e eles levan esa broma dun tribunal con eles . Partidarias avogados bolsa de escoria


Does that sum it up? 

 
This is the death rattle of the Republican party platform.

D. Trump is not going to be POTUS.  So it's game over as far as selecting justices.  The Repblican sentiment is to blow it all up and take ur ball home.

Real patriots.
I want some of whatever you are smoking. 

 
You are on a website of mainly middle-age white guys.  For the most part.  And you are on an island on here.  What does that tell you going forward?
It tells me that middle aged white guys on a fantasy football forum lean left. Not surprising at all. 

I check in at two other forums that are much larger than fbg (50x and 10x) and they tell a different story. One is a sports forum and is comprised of a mix of mostly white males and a small percentage of blacks and hispanics, college aged up to early 40s. The other is a forum comprised of men who are college aged up to 50s from around the world and a variety of races.

Both of those sites lean right or libertarian. Neither one of them are geared towards politics, just the nature of their main boards attracts a different crowd than a fantasy sports site.

This corner of the internet tells us very little about the political beliefs of the general population. 

If this answer has nothing to do with your question, forgive me. This new quoting setup makes it challenging to keep up sometimes. 

I welcome Jon's differing opinions, and respect him for standing out in this sea of donkeys.

 
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Given the same circumstances, the Dems would do the exact same thing.  When it comes to the courts, the Dems have been more radical in the tactics they are willing to use.  The Dems have no high horse to be riding around on this issue. 
Applesauce. This is the equivalent of saying I just know you would screw my wife so I am just going to screw yours first because you are such a *******. There is literally nothing the rebublicans can do that you wouldn't roll out false equivalencies. This is unprecedented behavior and one more instance of conservatives destroying democratic institutions. 

 
You are on a website of mainly middle-age white guys.  For the most part.  And you are on an island on here.  What does that tell you going forward?
No he isn't. Just liberals seem to be way more obnoxious and post more.

 
If the GOP stonewalls Obama's nominee and Hillary of Bernie wins the presidency, they should put forward the same nominee, to drive home the point that a political party just threw a year-long tantrum for nothing.
Oh I'm sure Hillary will do her own thing and not show deference to Obama.

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
The Tragedy of Antonin Scalia
He thought he could remove politics from the Supreme Court, but he only made things worse.
By Eric Posner
Someone really should be an originalist on the Supreme Court because the Constitution was a designed document, and whenever you change something that was designed you at least need to understand the original designers intent.  As an example, you can't make changes to a 1960s nuclear power plant based on your gut feeling and emotions and current design practices, you really need to understand the original designers intent first, otherwise you might overlook something important.   Once you understand original designers intent, then you can make your decision.  Maybe you can decide contrary to original designers intent and it doesn't matter due to the passage of time but you should be able to explain that. Unfortunately, the article has it all wrong about Scalia failing to convert his colleages, Supreme Court justices don't debate or try to persuade each other, their egos are too big, so whether one guy is an originalist really doesn't matter, he can be the smartest guy with complete knowledge of the issue at hand and a Supreme Court lefty wont care whether his points are valid or not, the lefty judge can nullify his vote based on gut feel.

 
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Maurile Tremblay said:
The Tragedy of Antonin Scalia
He thought he could remove politics from the Supreme Court, but he only made things worse.
By Eric Posner
He said he wanted to remove politics from the court.  But, you know, if you look at what he actually did it suggests he wanted no such thing.  He was as openly partisan as a judge could be.

 
Time to boycott Chick-fil-A again:

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As an example, you can't make changes to a 1960s nuclear power plant based on your gut feeling and emotions and current design practices, you really need to understand the original designers intent first, otherwise you might overlook something important.   Once you understand original designers intent, then you can make your decision.  Maybe you can decide contrary to original designers intent and it doesn't matter due to the passage of time but you should be able to explain that.
This is correct, but is an argument against originalism (not for it).

Originalism isn't the idea that we should do our best to understand the framers' (and ratifiers') original intent (to the extent that such a thing may exist -- perhaps by imputing metaphorical intent from the text). If that were originalism, all nine eight Justices are originalists.

Originalism is something closer to the idea that no factors besides original intent should be taken into account: that original intent is dispositive. It's the idea that judges should never make changes to a 1960s nuclear power plant for any reason, no matter how well they understand the original designers' intent.

 
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It tells me that middle aged white guys on a fantasy football forum lean left. Not surprising at all. 

I check in at two other forums that are much larger than fbg (50x and 10x) and they tell a different story. One is a sports forum and is comprised of a mix of mostly white males and a small percentage of blacks and hispanics, college aged up to early 40s. The other is a forum comprised of men who are college aged up to 50s from around the world and a variety of races.

Both of those sites lean right or libertarian. Neither one of them are geared towards politics, just the nature of their main boards attracts a different crowd than a fantasy sports site.

This corner of the internet tells us very little about the political beliefs of the general population. 

If this answer has nothing to do with your question, forgive me. This new quoting setup makes it challenging to keep up sometimes. 

I welcome Jon's differing opinions, and respect him for standing out in this sea of donkeys.
Traditionally I would think that middle aged white football fans leaned way to the right. It is a little surprising to me that we lean left now.

The other boards I've been to seem much less educated than this one.

 
It's been established several times that for people who lean left, the board leans right; for people who lean right, the board leans left.

 
It's been established several times that for people who lean left, the board leans right; for people who lean right, the board leans left.
Except wasn't there a poll recently that asked forum members where they stood politically and the numbers showed that the board does lean somewhat right IIRC, to the point that liberals here only represented no more than a 1/3rd participants at best - even though the absurd claim is we dominate the discussion and represent the majority of posters in all political threads.

 
I'm somewhat confident that we'd get fairly similar results today. If anything, the board may have moved very slightly further to the left.

Should we try the same poll again to see?

 
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Doctor Detroit said:
Might have had to do with the situation.  He went today to pay his respects, to a guy that was never on his side but well respected anyway.  Obama Administration generally overthinks everything but having him front and center at the SCOTUS Judge most far to the right, was not a good idea in any way.  Scalia deserves to RIP without the :bs: which he never really appreciated.  POTUS got this one right. 
Uh, no

ETA: That's some of the worst logic I've ever seen. 

Obama should go to the funeral plain and simple. 

 
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Uh, no

ETA: That's some of the worst logic I've ever seen. 

Obama should go to the funeral plain and simple. 
You see logic?  :lmao:  

If you died and Kayne West came to your funeral and no one paid any attention to the guy who died, how would you like that?  Obama went yesterday to pay his respects and there were 40 cameras on him.  It's about Scalia, not about the Prez.  He absolutely did the right thing in not going. 

 
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Obama goes, he's politicizing.  He doesn't go, he's disrespectful.  When people look for offense, they usually find it. 

 
You see logic?  :lmao:  

If you died and Kayne West came to your funeral and no one paid any attention to the guy who died, how would you like that?  Obama went yesterday to pay his respects and there were 40 cameras on him.  It's about Scalia, not about the Prez.  He absolutely did the right thing in not going. 
:goodposting:

 
Doesn't appear to be enough votes to really come to any determination...what percentage of total users is that?

But...if it is a decent representation...then it's showing 79 right to 90 left...extrapolated out...what does that come to?

As for the perception...I'd guess you'd need to include post count for each division.

Interesting that the perception of those who are neutral feel the board leans left almost twice as much as right.

 
You see logic?  :lmao:  

If you died and Kayne West came to your funeral and no one paid any attention to the guy who died, how would you like that?  Obama went yesterday to pay his respects and there were 40 cameras on him.  It's about Scalia, not about the Prez.  He absolutely did the right thing in not going. 
I hope Yeezy comes to my funeral.

 
You see logic?  :lmao:  

If you died and Kayne West came to your funeral and no one paid any attention to the guy who died, how would you like that?  Obama went yesterday to pay his respects and there were 40 cameras on him.  It's about Scalia, not about the Prez.  He absolutely did the right thing in not going. 
I don't think I'd care because I'd be dead. My youngest daughter would love it though, she's a big fan. 

 
Except wasn't there a poll recently that asked forum members where they stood politically and the numbers showed that the board does lean somewhat right IIRC, to the point that liberals here only represented no more than a 1/3rd participants at best - even though the absurd claim is we dominate the discussion and represent the majority of posters in all political threads.


im no fan of Obama, but DD is right as rain on multiple levels here 

 
Came in expecting to find some intelligent discussion about Scalia's legacy.  Found a bunch of rubes knocking Obama for not going to a funeral, someone citing an eight-year-old poll for some reason, and DD making sense as usual. 

 
you think everyone is voting accurately?
If by "accurately," you mean their "true feelings," then it's an interesting question. Not everyone will answer every poll question here honestly, there are class clowns everywhere on the internet. Heck, I do it myself in some of the sports polls. But I don't think there are enough people doing that to skew the results of polls with lots of respondents.

 

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