Justin Blackmon Can't Put the Bottle Down! (1 Viewer)

[werdnoynek]

I take a different point of view. I'd be even more worried if he had been out drinking the night before and woke up feeling fine to drive at an alcohol level of > 0.15!! For most of us, we would be stumbling around at > 0.15.....it appears Blackmon can handle way more than that if he had been drinking last night and was still > 0.15 this AM!! This is an extremely bad sign.So I disagree with your point a view. This is not maturity. This spells a big time problem with alcohol....something that likely isn't going to be cured anytime soon for Blackmon.

you're making an awfully big assumption with very little as far as facts go... might want to tone it down a bit until we learn what was really going on. lol

Okay, you are right. This is just a minor blip on the radar of what will turn out to be a life filled full of wonderful contributions to society!

i guess toning it down is too much to ask. carry on with your circlejerk.

What's going on is the guy has two DUIs at age 22 and neither one was by a small margin. I'm not sure what you think needs toned down.

the OP was basically saying blackmon is an alcoholic. don't you think that's a bit far fetched without knowing the situation?honestly, i don't like blackmon and i have said why in other threads about how he plays the game... but this is getting pretty ridiculous. all we know is he's gotten pulled over 2 times driving intoxicated... i just think we should hold back on naming him the league drunk until we know a bit more.

Do you know anyone who has had 2 DUIs by age 22 (or any age) who isn't an alcoholic (or at least someone with a very serious drinking problem)?

getting multiple DUI's doesn't make you an alcoholic - it makes you an idiot. i think there's a difference, but i also think you knew that.and to answer your questions yes... me - i had 5 underage drinking tickets and an OWI before age 18 and a DUI at age 21. i don't drink anymore (i'm now 28).ETA: as we all know drinking in excess clouds your judgement - this could have been the second time he's gotten behind the wheel drunk and the second time he was pulled over lol... or you could be right he does have a problem. we just don't know. i'm just disagreeing with the certainty of the OP's post.

 

[jurb26]

Do you know anyone who has had 2 DUIs by age 22 (or any age) who isn't an alcoholic (or at least someone with a very serious drinking problem)?

This seems to be what is most alarming to me. I'm not going to say he is an alcoholic, but clearly there are signs of a drinking problem. 2 DUI's by 22 is not a good thing.

 

[werdnoynek]

Do you know anyone who has had 2 DUIs by age 22 (or any age) who isn't an alcoholic (or at least someone with a very serious drinking problem)?

This seems to be what is most alarming to me. I'm not going to say he is an alcoholic, but clearly there are signs of a drinking problem. 2 DUI's by 22 is not a good thing.

agreed, especially for a "professional" athlete.

 

[Hoosier16]

I take a different point of view. I'd be even more worried if he had been out drinking the night before and woke up feeling fine to drive at an alcohol level of > 0.15!! For most of us, we would be stumbling around at > 0.15.....it appears Blackmon can handle way more than that if he had been drinking last night and was still > 0.15 this AM!! This is an extremely bad sign.So I disagree with your point a view. This is not maturity. This spells a big time problem with alcohol....something that likely isn't going to be cured anytime soon for Blackmon.

you're making an awfully big assumption with very little as far as facts go... might want to tone it down a bit until we learn what was really going on. lol

Okay, you are right. This is just a minor blip on the radar of what will turn out to be a life filled full of wonderful contributions to society!

i guess toning it down is too much to ask. carry on with your circlejerk.

What's going on is the guy has two DUIs at age 22 and neither one was by a small margin. I'm not sure what you think needs toned down.

the OP was basically saying blackmon is an alcoholic. don't you think that's a bit far fetched without knowing the situation?honestly, i don't like blackmon and i have said why in other threads about how he plays the game... but this is getting pretty ridiculous. all we know is he's gotten pulled over 2 times driving intoxicated... i just think we should hold back on naming him the league drunk until we know a bit more.

Do you know anyone who has had 2 DUIs by age 22 (or any age) who isn't an alcoholic (or at least someone with a very serious drinking problem)?

getting multiple DUI's doesn't make you an alcoholic - it makes you an idiot. i think there's a difference, but i also think you knew that.and to answer your questions yes... me - i had 5 underage drinking tickets and an OWI before age 18 and a DUI at age 21. i don't drink anymore (i'm now 28).ETA: as we all know drinking in excess clouds your judgement - this could have been the second time he's gotten behind the wheel drunk and the second time he was pulled over lol... or you could be right he does have a problem. we just don't know. i'm just disagree with the certainty of the OP's post.

That's still only 1 DUI. It's hard to get 2. And, while I'm not judging you, you clearly recognized a problem and stopped. That's all I'm saying about Blackmon. There is clearly a very serious problem (more than just a 22 year old getting drunk).And we all know that he's driven drunk way more than 2 times. The odds against him driving drunk only twice are astronomical.

 

[Donnybrook]

Vincient Jackson had 2 DUIs by the time he was 26 and 3 years later he signed a $ 55 M contract.

 

[Banemorth]

Vincient Jackson had 2 DUIs by the time he was 26 and 3 years later he signed a $ 55 M contract.

So Blackmon is better than V-Jax because he got his 2 DUI's four years faster?

 

[werdnoynek]

Vincient Jackson had 2 DUI by the time he was 26 and 3 years later he signed a $ 55 M contract.

does anyone recall what happened after his first offense? i'm trying to think of others who have gotten 1 dui and what their penalty was... i'm just drawing blanks.

 

[Donnybrook]

Vincient Jackson had 2 DUIs by the time he was 26 and 3 years later he signed a $ 55 M contract.

So Blackmon is better than V-Jax because he got his 2 DUI's four years faster?

Jared Allen also had arrests for DUIs early in his career. He has matured. I think people are over-reacting a little.

 

[Quint]

maybe he was just getting a head start on Sunday Funday?

 

[Raider Nation]

I wonder what would make Blackmon drink so heavily? http://jac.scout.com/2/1183764.html

It's not often a WR turned pro and his QB situation got worse.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Like none of you have ever knocked a few back and then driven home.

 

[Buck Stop]

I've had 14 rookie drafts and 1 dynasty startup and have taken Blackmon zero times. Whew!

 

[cstu]

"I think that's the kind of mindset that you have to have when you're competing the way we compete," he said. "With that mindset, you're always thinking about knowing no one can stop you and you can only improve."

Except the police.Here's a tip, Justin - keep your competing on the football field, not on who can do the most shots at last call.

 

[finito]

Like none of you have ever knocked a few back and then driven home.

Not the point. The point is he didn't learn from his first mistake. There's a problem here.

 

[Mimo]

.24........Wow

 

[DoubleG]

Like none of you have ever knocked a few back and then driven home.

Cases? GTFO, now.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

.24........Wow

Ballparking... at 215 pounds that's 18 drinks in six hours or 24 drinks in 12 hours.

 

[DoubleG]

I wonder what would make Blackmon drink so heavily? http://jac.scout.com/2/1183764.html

It's not often a WR turned pro and his QB situation got worse.

Nicely played, sir.

 

[kutta]

.24........Wow

Really? Is there a link for that?Holy crap. That's really really high.

 

[Mimo]

.24........Wow

Really? Is there a link for that?Holy crap. That's really really high.

http://t.co/aX95rfg5

 

[Faust]

Blackmon's arrest triggers bad memories for Jaguars

By Dan Hanzus

Writer

General manager Gene Smith put his faith in Justin Blackmon when the Jacksonville Jaguars selected the Oklahoma State wideout with the fifth overall pick in the 2012 draft.

Smith has been with the Jags since their inception, and he knows all too well about the team's checkered recent history with young wide receivers. Three of the team's first-round picks -- R. Jay Soward, 2000, Reggie Williams, 2004, and Matt Jones, 2005 -- had their careers derailed by substance-abuse issues. Blackmon's arrest on Sunday morning had to be a nasty case of déjà vu.

Blackmon had a prior DUI arrest back in 2010. You can guarantee this came up with the team in pre-draft meetings. Blackmon's attitude apparently appeased the Jags, who moved up in the first round to make sure they got the man who they foresaw as Blaine Gabbert's most-trusted ally.

You have to wonder what Smith is thinking now. Blackmon has yet to sign his rookie deal with the Jaguars, and it will be interesting to see how Jacksonville approaches contract negotiations.

As Mike Florio at PFT points out, the Jags could play hardball and offer Blackmon a one-year tender for the rookie minimum of $390,000 -- a probationary-type deal that Blackmon would undoubtedly turn down and move to re-enter the draft in 2013.

More likely is a four-year fully guaranteed deal at market value that includes provisions to remove guarantees if Blackmon trips up again. Both sides are limited in negotiations here given the new rules in place for rookie deals, but don't be surprised if the Jaguars explore every avenue in protecting themselves.

Smith has watched the Jaguars get burned before in this game. He'll do everything he can to make sure it doesn't happen again.

 

[cr8f]

My brother had a BAL of .38 when he smashed his car, but >.24 is pretty bad.

 

[msommer]

F###ing H#ll!!!

 

[lbouchard]

For reference, a .27 is "possible death". To the poster above, I have no idea how your brother was even standing up, let alone driving, with a BAC of .38. That's absurd

 

[kutta]

I am not a lawyer and really know nothing about DUI laws, but a quick Google search turned up this interesting tidbit:

The Look Back Period

A look back period is the length of time of an offender’s driving record that a court can review. Oklahoma statutes allow the court to consider all previous DUI convictions, regardless of whether they occurred outside of the state, when punishing an offender. This means that if an offender has a previous DUI occurring less than 10 years ago, he will be punished with higher penalties.

Felony vs. Misdemeanor in Oklahoma

A second DUI in Oklahoma is a felony. Under state law, a felony is any crime that carries a punishment of a year or longer in prison. A misdemeanor is any crime that carries a potential punishment of less than a year in prison. An Oklahoma court can sentence a second time offender to no less than one and no more than five years in prison, making it a felony crime.

linkDoesn't sound too good...

 

[KCitons]

The 2 DUI's at the age of 22 just makes me wonder how many times Blackmon has been legally drunk when behind the wheel. I'm all for giving people an opportunity to learn from their mistakes. After all, that's pretty much what life is all about. But, as much as I believe in second chances, I am hypercritical of two-time losers.

Prior to the draft I was a supporter and fan of Blackmon, but not any more. The guy is a loser in my book, and I want nothing to do with him now or in the future.

 

[FavreCo]

Interesting that one of the reasons some people ranked Blackmon ahead of Floyd was because of Floyd's alcohol issues.

I got them both as rank. Glad someone ahead of me will waste their pick on this loser.

 

[LarryAllen'sJockstrap]

Like none of you have ever knocked a few back and then driven home.

I remember a quote Barkley made after getting his DUI. The average person who drives drunk does it about 200-300 times before they get caught. Once can be bad luck. Twice either means he completely has no sense of awareness or a serious drinking problem.

 

[LarryAllen'sJockstrap]

I am not a lawyer and really know nothing about DUI laws, but a quick Google search turned up this interesting tidbit:

The Look Back Period

A look back period is the length of time of an offender’s driving record that a court can review. Oklahoma statutes allow the court to consider all previous DUI convictions, regardless of whether they occurred outside of the state, when punishing an offender. This means that if an offender has a previous DUI occurring less than 10 years ago, he will be punished with higher penalties.

Felony vs. Misdemeanor in Oklahoma

A second DUI in Oklahoma is a felony. Under state law, a felony is any crime that carries a punishment of a year or longer in prison. A misdemeanor is any crime that carries a potential punishment of less than a year in prison. An Oklahoma court can sentence a second time offender to no less than one and no more than five years in prison, making it a felony crime.

linkDoesn't sound too good...

First was in Texas. Lucky for him that does make a difference.

 

[flapgreen]

Dude was hamnered.

 

[Banemorth]

Stillwater police spokesman Capt. Randy Dickerson told The Associated Press that the former Oklahoma State wide receiver smelled of alcohol when an officer pulled him over shortly after 3 a.m. local time. Blackmon agreed to take a breathalyzer test and blew a .24 -- three times the state's legal limit.

Under Oklahoma law, a BAC above .15 constitutes the charge of aggravated DUI. It can be prosecuted as a felony or misdemeanor.

Blackmon, the Jacksonville Jaguars' first-round draft pick, was released from jail Sunday afternoon on $1,000 bond. He's due in court Monday.

Stillwater police tried to pull over Blackmon for speeding -- he was clocked at 60 mph in a 35-mph zone -- and driving left of center early Sunday morning. Blackmon drove about four blocks before stopping in a gas-station parking lot.

"He was unsteady on his feet, his speech was slurred, and his eyes were glassy and blood shot," Dickerson said in a statement. "He admitted to consuming alcohol prior to driving."

Not a good situation for Blackmon or his new team. It will be interesting to see the legal road ahead for Blackmon, who's now a two-time DUI offender.

 

[flapgreen]

Like none of you have ever knocked a few back and then driven home.

I wonder if Blackmon has bragged about it to his buddies yet.

 

[sports_fan]

Like none of you have ever knocked a few back and then driven home.

I remember a quote Barkley made after getting his DUI. The average person who drives drunk does it about 200-300 times before they get caught. Once can be bad luck. Twice either means he completely has no sense of awareness or a serious drinking problem.

That is scary to think about.

 

[fatness]

Carl Eller all or nothing fishing expeditions.

 

[Banemorth]

ESPN is reporting he blew a .24!

.24 and doing 60 in a 35. Nice combo.

 

[CalBear]

Vincient Jackson had 2 DUIs by the time he was 26 and 3 years later he signed a $ 55 M contract.

So Blackmon is better than V-Jax because he got his 2 DUI's four years faster?

Blackmon = Speed

 

[Prinefan]

Sad thing is, it's a pattern. This isn't the last of it.

 

[Mario Kart]

I'm done. Just traded for a 3rd round rookie next year. I'm out!

 

[cvnpoka]

wtf why did he blow. he should def know the law after his first one.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

wtf why did he blow. he should def know the law after his first one.

He was dead meat anyway. He'd either have a blood or urine test to determine his BAC.

 

[doowain]

The 2 DUI's at the age of 22 just makes me wonder how many times Blackmon has been legally drunk when behind the wheel.

There is no such thing as being "legally drunk". HTH. I just wish this would have happened a month ago so he would've fallen to me in the back half of the first round.

 

[Christo]

I wonder what would make Blackmon drink so heavily? http://jac.scout.com/2/1183764.html

It's not often a WR turned pro and his QB situation got worse.

 

[moderated]

From what I remember he wasn't legally drunk on his first offense. Since he was underage at the time he was given a OWI even though he wasn't drunk but admitted to having a few drinks earlier in the night.

This one on the other hand is crazy, driving around at .24 is pretty nuts.

 

[Christo]

I am not a lawyer and really know nothing about DUI laws, but a quick Google search turned up this interesting tidbit:

The Look Back Period

A look back period is the length of time of an offender’s driving record that a court can review. Oklahoma statutes allow the court to consider all previous DUI convictions, regardless of whether they occurred outside of the state, when punishing an offender. This means that if an offender has a previous DUI occurring less than 10 years ago, he will be punished with higher penalties.

Felony vs. Misdemeanor in Oklahoma

A second DUI in Oklahoma is a felony. Under state law, a felony is any crime that carries a punishment of a year or longer in prison. A misdemeanor is any crime that carries a potential punishment of less than a year in prison. An Oklahoma court can sentence a second time offender to no less than one and no more than five years in prison, making it a felony crime.

linkDoesn't sound too good...

First was in Texas. Lucky for him that does make a difference.

Oklahoma statutes allow the court to consider all previous DUI convictions, regardless of whether they occurred outside of the state, when punishing an offender

 

[werdnoynek]

wtf why did he blow. he should def know the law after his first one.

He was dead meat anyway. He'd either have a blood or urine test to determine his BAC.

yeah, if you're obviously drunk (which given the reports he was) they just detain you, get a warrant, and take blood. delaying it an hour or two with a bac of .24 isn't going to help much at all. then they could also just use that against you in court. given his showing of immense intelligence thus far, i don't think he knows what law is. if you've only had a couple to drink and are driving, then sure, decline to blow and let them take you in and hope for the best.

 

[fruity pebbles]

ESPN is reporting he blew a .24!

.24 and doing 60 in a 35. Nice combo.

And on the wrong side of the road

 

[KCitons]

The 2 DUI's at the age of 22 just makes me wonder how many times Blackmon has been legally drunk when behind the wheel.

There is no such thing as being "legally drunk". HTH. I just wish this would have happened a month ago so he would've fallen to me in the back half of the first round.

OK. maybe I should have said, "over the limit, and got behind the wheel" But, some people are impaired at .06 and are not charged with anything. So, my point was how many times he got behind the wheel and could have been arrested for DUI.

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

ESPN is reporting he blew a .24!

.24 and doing 60 in a 35. Nice combo.

And on the wrong side of the road

0.24 is nothing! I piss 0.35, but I can still keep it right of the center line!

 

[simey]

Vincient Jackson had 2 DUIs by the time he was 26 and 3 years later he signed a $ 55 M contract.

Koren Robinson had 2 DUIs also by the time he was 26, but his NFL career took a nosedive due to his alcoholism.

 

[Wadsworth]

Rumor: I have heard from multiple people that Blackmon has been obviously drunk at local bars on more than one occasion. On this past Friday, June 1st several people claim to have seen him extremely drunk and one said he was trying to pick a fight.[/rumor]

First round WRs by the Jags:

RJ Soward

Reggie Willaims

Matt Jones

Justin Blackmon

-queue Hank Williams Jr, Family Tradition with "Jaguars Tradition" substituted.