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jwvdcw's 2006-07 NFL standings predictions (1 Viewer)

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Alright listen up, my skillets! We got predicdicdictions here, but they're not just for anywho. LIsten and learn.

What we're going to do first is to take you through a littler stats. Shall we:

In 2005, only 5 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

In 2004, only 6 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

In 2003, only 4 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

In 2002, only 6 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

In 2001, only 6 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

In 2000, only 5 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

So whats the point, jack? The point is that you can't keep putting the same teams in year in and year out. You fools continue to do this, and its making you look like morons. So stop it! Stop it! STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now, with that outta da way, lets getda hood on wit it.

NFC East

4. Phillie Billy Eagles(7-9): ITs tough TO BET AGAINST A HEALTHY McNabb. And I am a liking what they did on draft day....but t h i s division is strong. The Eagles were #4 last year, and they lost T.O. What now? Like many, I was shocked that they didn't bring in another WR. I say they finish 4th

3. Giants(8-8): This is one tough mother####ing division to ####### pick. How can I put last year's divisional leadleads at only #3? Well I think that a lot of the breaks went their way last year. And I hate how they finished the season getting spanked by [SIZE=14pt]Washington and Carolina[/SIZE]. It simply wasn't pretty. Furthermore, I think Tiki will eventually wear out. Now I know what you're saying: Isn't that the same bull#### that we've heard about their other NY RB, Curtis Maaartin? Well yeah, but eventually he ran out of oil too. It happens. I think Tiki starts to show his age this year. I love their D though. :suds:And I really love that ******* acorsi's philosophy of drafting QBs and pass rushers. But I think they falter a bit.

2. Dal(10-6): Dal is Dal. They've added TO. They were solid last year. They are better this year. I'm still not sold on the leadership on this squad. Nor am I sold on their RB situation. And I don't think they had a good draft. In fact, I could see them finishing in 3rd. But TO makes a huge differnetence.

1. Washington(12-4): Call me a homer. Go ahead and do it. You know you want to. The only possible problem here is a QB injury to Brunell. Last year they had a top 12 offense and they only added 2 solid WRs. Their D is solid. And that coaching staff might be the GOAT. Busta!



AFC North

4. Bengals(6-10): Palmer is hurt. They suck without him. :crazy:Their D sucks. He won't be full strength and it will be a most disappointing year in Cincy. Cee.

3. Cleveland(8-8): I think they make a ton of strides under Crunell. This team is going places. Only the development of Fryman will keep them at bay this year. But I'm a lovin' that D. This team plays hard and with arrows in their socks. Watch out in 2010!

2. Raven birds(8-8): A few too many holes. Boller comes through with a very good season, but its not enough. Ray ray has lost a step and the D is getting older. They are competitive as always, but fall short of the offs.

1. Steerers(11-5): Super bowl champs. Big deal. Didn't lose much. Same ####. #### yo house!

AFC West

4. Raiders(5-11): Its really hard to pick any other team in this spot. I don't think they've done a bad job this offseason, but this division is simply brut.

3. Chargers(7-9): Phillllllipe Rivers = wait one more year. :doh:

2. Broncos(10-6): I really don't like the drafting of a QB for a team that needs to win NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sTILL, they have a solid squad overall and will compete for the crown.

1. Chiefs(11-5): What is not to like here? Huh? Dominant running game, solid passing game, improving offense. This team can play with the big boys, and they are a big boy, and they can play with the other big boys, and they are a big boy. Whoooo!

AFC East

4. Bills(3-13): Horrible draft. I don't like much about this team. Blah. :popcorn:

3. New Yorke(6-10): Love their draft, but just too much uncertainty here. QB situation especially. RB too. Their D can be top 10 and maybe even better. I love how they helped the o-line first. This team really isn't far from being a contender for true. Lets go pink.

2. Patriots(10-6): See last year. Repeat. Not a great team anymore, as they've lost far too many boom booms. But Brady is still Brady, and they are still sexy.

1. Dolphins(12-4): I picked this team to be this good even before they got Pepper. Look at the end of last year. Losing RW hurts, but Brown is ready to step it up big time, you sons of #####es. Saban is a great coach. This team will be tough this year. Book it, son.

NFC North

4. Pack(3-13): Besides FAvre, What Is There To Like Here? This team is old at the important spots. They fell apart last year. What is any better this year? They'll continue to build through the draft. They should trade Favre to a team like the Redskins in exchange for future 1st rounders, but they won't because they're stupid.

3. Detroit(6-10): Martz is not a good coach. I fail to see how this group of clowns has improved. Pinner should be starting. Blah.

2. Minnesota(8-8): I just realized that I'm picking the exact same order that they finished last year and very similar records for all. I hate when I do that, but hey: Whats good for the goose is good for the puddin'.

1. Chicagoe(9-7): Chicagoe has an easy schedule for their D. Their O will be improved with Gross. I like this team. Solid, but not spectacular.

[SIZE=21pt]NFC South[/SIZE]

4. Saints(6-10): Bush is instant impact. Brees is back. This team was 8-8 2 years ago before Katrina. They aren't horrible, but the division is smokey.3. Bucs(7-9): You may ask how I forsee such a fall. They were competitive in most games last year. They were 11-5 last year. I think Galloway was a fluke last year. He is still old. I don't like their offense at all, adn I think their D is average. Smoke and mirrors last year. This year they are average and in a tough division, so they get 7-9. 2. Falcons(9-7): Vick is imo still one of the biggest game changers in all of football. They won't have such injury problems this year. This team is solid all around. 1. Carolina(13-3): Honest, what the #### is not to like here? This team has no thumbs up the keester. Keyshawn and that damn Rb in the draft were great signings. Championship calibre right hyar.

NFC West...

4. 49ers(5-11): Improving slowly. But just NOT ENOUGH DAMN PIECES YET.

3. Rams(6-10): I love Holt. bulger should be back. jackson is servicable. but nothing about this team excites me anymore. ho hum.

2. Seattle(9-7): Super bowl losers generally don't make the playoffs the next year. This team will be resiliant, but 9 wins is what I will to give themselves. Losing Hutch...whoa.

1. Arizona(10-6): Warner stays healthy. This team shocks the world. Results baby. Results. Yeah yeah yeah. Don't you miss out. They've already sold out season tickets according to the hot stove.

AFC SouTH

4. Titans(3-13): Regardless of whether McNair stays or not, I think Young gets playing time and its a learning process. Not a hwole lot to be hopeful with here imo.

3. Texans(8-8): REmember that they were 8-8 2 years ago. Not as horrible as some think. Williams and Moulds are big big addittions. Make or boom time for Carr.

2. Colts(9-7): Hangover from last year. Such disappointment. Losing Edge hurts. Addai = addai. WTF?

1. Jags(11-5): I really like Leftwich. They were 12-4 last year don't forget, you bums. 11-5 is doable..

[SIZE=21pt]PLAYOFFS[/SIZE]

Dallas over Chicago

Arizona over Atl

Patriots over Steelers

Chiefs over Broncos

Washington over Dallas

Carolina over Arizona

Chiefs over Jaguars

Dolphins over Patriots

Carolina over Washington

Dolphins over Chiefs

Carolina over Miami

 
4. Pack(3-13): Besides FAvre, What Is There To Like Here? This team is old at the important spots. They fell apart last year. What is any better this year? They'll continue to build through the draft. They should trade Favre to a team like the Redskins in exchange for future 1st rounders, but they won't because they're stupid.

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I'll take the over jw! I think the old man's got five wins in him this year. Name your price. :thumbup:

 
In 2005, only 5 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

In 2004, only 6 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

In 2003, only 4 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

In 2002, only 6 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

In 2001, only 6 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

In 2000, only 5 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

So whats the point, jack? The point is that you can't keep putting the same teams in year in and year out. You fools continue to do this, and its making you look like morons. So stop it! Stop it! STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now, with that outta da way, lets getda hood on wit it.

[SIZE=21pt]PLAYOFFS[/SIZE]

Dallas over Chicago

Arizona over Atl

Patriots over Steelers

Chiefs over Broncos

Washington over Dallas

Carolina over Arizona

Chiefs over Jaguars

Dolphins over Patriots

Carolina over Washington

Dolphins over Chiefs

Carolina over Miami

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I count 7 holdovers in your playoffs :P
 
you're saying Dolphins go to the Superbowl!?! I'm a huge fins fan so i'm all for that - especially seeing as the SB is in Miami this year - but it ain't happening.

 
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Isn't this a bit early? Bump in August and if you're game, we'll do a friendly one month sig bet by placing values on placed finished, playoff teams, and playoff wins.

 
4. Pack(3-13): Besides FAvre, What Is There To Like Here? This team is old at the important spots. They fell apart last year. What is any better this year? They'll continue to build through the draft. They should trade Favre to a team like the Redskins in exchange for future 1st rounders, but they won't because they're stupid.

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I'll take the over jw! I think the old man's got five wins in him this year. Name your price. :thumbup:

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Me too.
 
4. Bengals(6-10): Palmer is hurt. They suck without him. :crazy:Their D sucks. He won't be full strength and it will be a most disappointing year in Cincy. Cee.

3. Cleveland(8-8): I think they make a ton of strides under Crunell. This team is going places. Only the development of Fryman will keep them at bay this year. But I'm a lovin' that D. This team plays hard and with arrows in their socks. Watch out in 2010!

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1. Chiefs(11-5): What is not to like here? Huh? Dominant running game, solid passing game, improving offense. This team can play with the big boys, and they are a big boy, and they can play with the other big boys, and they are a big boy. Whoooo!

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4. Bills(3-13): Horrible draft. I don't like much about this team. Blah. :popcorn:

3. New Yorke(6-10): Love their draft, but just too much uncertainty here. QB situation especially. RB too. Their D can be top 10 and maybe even better. I love how they helped the o-line first. This team really isn't far from being a contender for true. Lets go pink.

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2. Seattle(9-7): Super bowl losers generally don't make the playoffs the next year. This team will be resiliant, but 9 wins is what I will to give themselves. Losing Hutch...whoa.

1. Arizona(10-6): Warner stays healthy. This team shocks the world. Results baby. Results. Yeah yeah yeah. Don't you miss out. They've already sold out season tickets according to the hot stove.

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I like your analysis overall but these are the picks that really stuck out to me as questionable.- I agree with you that Palmer is going to miss time but that offense still has a LOT of weapons and a good OL, CLE made some progress this offseason but they'll still need to make a lot more.

- So it's the same atrocious KC defense with a possibly more vanilla offense under the new coaching scheme? Even if they were returning the same coaches that made that offense so spectacular most of that offense is ancient. Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. I think next year we'll be talking about how they should have started rebuilding this year.

- BUF wasn't as bad as they played last year. NYJ, despite better QB play, may actually be worse this year than they played last year after they lost most of their OL. I like their draft but we're still talking about rookies.

- The ARZ love is getting a little ahead of itself everywhere. They still can't stop anyone and have one of the worst OL's in the NFL. Add a concusion/TO-prone immobile old QB and a rookie QB behind that line and I just don't see them winning a division this year regardless who they have playing the skill positions. ARZ may have made a few strides to get closer to SEA but they have several more strides to go.

 
3. Cleveland(8-8): I think they make a ton of strides under Crunell. This team is going places. Only the development of Fryman will keep them at bay this year. But I'm a lovin' that D. This team plays hard and with arrows in their socks. Watch out in 2010!
awesome.
 
2. Broncos(10-6): I really don't like the drafting of a QB for a team that needs to win NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sTILL, they have a solid squad overall and will compete for the crown.

1. Chiefs(11-5): What is not to like here? Huh? Dominant running game, solid passing game, improving offense. This team can play with the big boys, and they are a big boy, and they can play with the other big boys, and they are a big boy. Whoooo!

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What is not to like with the Chiefs? Um, their defense is still terrible and while Herman Edwards is a defensive guy, so is Tony Dungy and it took him years to turn the Colts defense around, so there ya go. Besides, going from Vermeil to Edwards is a dropoff, so that will impact the team, too. While the Broncos first round draft choice is a look to the future, the addition of Javon Walker will upgrade the passing game (even if he is not 100% off his injury, he is still a major upgrade over Lelie). They were 13-3 last year with a very tough first half schedule, so barring any major injuries, I don't see them being any worse than 11-5.

 
I could not disagree with the Miami pick more. I'll be surprised if they get the wildcard. Saban has them improving but they are still far behind the Pats overall and have a ways to go before they're a title contender. Their O line is mediocre, their star QB's status is still up in the air, their defense is still built around too many aging players and if Ronnie Brown gets hurt the O will take a huge step backwards. They'll be a tough opponent but there still not anywhere near being an elite team.

As for the end of the year the team I saw in the final week was barely able to hold off a Patriots team that was being lead by Matt Cassell and Bam Childress. Miami is improving and definetly headed in the right direction. Yet, they still have a lot of work to do before they fully recover from the Wanny years.

 
2. Patriots(10-6): See last year. Repeat. Not a great team anymore, as they've lost far too many boom booms. But Brady is still Brady, and they are still sexy. 1. Dolphins(12-4): I picked this team to be this good even before they got Pepper. Look at the end of last year. Losing RW hurts, but Brown is ready to step it up big time, you sons of #####es. Saban is a great coach. This team will be tough this year. Book it, son.
I think you're way off here. Miami is moving in the right direction for sure, but I think they're still at least a year away from being legitimate Super Bowl contendors. I also can't see Culpepper coming right in and mastering the offense right off the bat; I think they'll be some growing pains. Plus some key players on defense are each one year older.As for New England, they got better and better as the year went on. Had Brady not played the worst playoff game of his career, the team very well might have threepeated. They still have the best QB, the best coach, and the best personnel man ( including best drafting, though I would listen to an argument for the Steelers) in the league. They still have plenty of room to sign some veterans after the June 1 cuts (though with the high salary cap increase this year, that likely won't produce as many quality free agent options as in years past). I wouldn't bet against them quite yet.
 
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Miami and what QB? If you don't like Carson's chances then you shouldn't like Culpepper's chances at all. They are on the right track and Saban, who was under Belicheck for years, is one of the best motivational coaches. However, that O-line does need help. Culpepper will not play a snap this year, or shouldn't.

I love the Cutler pick for DEN. Plummer will be Plummer again, and J. Walker will be back from his ACL tear, maybe not 100%, but he will try to pick up the offense this season and will not be that much of an impact this season as he will in the future at DEN.

 
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Other than your complete butchery of the NFC East standings... :thumbup:

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At least he admits he's a homer. I'm another 'Skins homer and I freely acknowledge that any possible combination of season-end standings is a realistic prediction. That division is up for grabs and could well have all four teams in the running for the division title during the last 2-3 weeks.
 
.3. Bucs(7-9): adn I think their D is average.
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Alright underground-pissbody, maybe slightly above average. They were #8 in points allowed last year. Great not giving up yardage(6 vs pass, 6 vs run, 1 overall), but they weren't great at forcing turnovers(24th in the league in takeaways, which is obviously not playoff calibre), so #8 is about right- no fluke there.If you notice, the Ravens(my 2nd favorite team) were #10 in points allowed last year, and similarly I said that I think their D won't be great this year. Looking at last year's results only does so much, foster. Sure they were #8 and #10 last year, but I see other teams got better while they aged a bit. TB didn't draft a defender in the first 3 rounds and didn't bring in any big FAs. Their entire division only got better on offense with (Bree, Bush, Keyshawn, Deangelo) entering the division, and I think we can all agree that ATlanta had a down year and could easily be improved.

Don't take offense to every line thats bad about your team. I think that they had a good run last year, but it ended poorly with a home playoff loss, I don't think they did a ton in Free agency, and I think others have gotten better.

I think their D finishes around 12-18 in points allowed, which is average. If you care to provide evidence as to why you think they'll improve or stay at #8 feel free, but you :lmao: are not helping the pooper.

 
I could not disagree with the Miami pick more.  I'll be surprised if they get the wildcard.  Saban has them improving but they are still far behind the Pats overall and have a ways to go before they're a title contender.  Their O line is mediocre, their star QB's status is still up in the air, their defense is still built around too many aging players and if Ronnie Brown gets hurt the O will take a huge step backwards.  They'll be a tough opponent but there still not anywhere near being an elite team.

As for the end of the year the team I saw in the final week was barely able to hold off a Patriots team that was being lead by Matt Cassell and Bam Childress.  Miami is improving and definetly headed in the right direction.  Yet, they still have a lot of work to do before they fully recover from the Wanny years.

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Two big differences between them and Cincy: 1. Pepper has had a lot more time to rehab than Palmer. 2. The Dolphins won 7 games in a row to end last year with crapola at QB. Even a hurt Pepper is an upgrade there. A hurt Palmer is obviously a downgrade for Cincy.They won their last 7 games last year including beating the SD Chargers who were fighting for the playoff lives. Were all of those teams not playing hard like the Pats?? A hurt Culpepper is an upgrade over whomever they had at QB last year. Why do you think they'll be any worse than they showed in the last half of last season?

In case you guys havn't noticed, I'm big on teams that finished strong and down on teams like Denver, TB, Indy, etc. that had great years but very disappointing finishes in the playoffs. I think that stuff carries over.

 
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Stopped reading after 4. Bengals(6-10)

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In 2004 the Falcons were 11-5, Saints were 8-8, Packers were 10-6, Eagles were 13-3, Pats were 14-2, Texans were 7-9, etc. How did those teams do last year?The fact is that nobody seems to want to go out on a limb and predict a 10+ win team last year to fall flat on their faces. But it happens every year. So I had to pick a few(TB, Cincy). I see that I'm getting critisized for it. Oh well. At least I had the balls to go out on a limb and make those predicitions. I'd love to see which 10+ win teams you think are going to fall off. Odds are that I could critisize those picks just as much.

I just don't think Cincy improved a lot, they had a horrible finish to the year, their star QB is hurt, and they lost their backup QB.

 
In 2005, only 5 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

In 2004, only 6 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

In 2003, only 4 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

In 2002, only 6 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

In 2001, only 6 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

In 2000, only 5 out of the 12 playoff teams had made it the year before.

So whats the point, jack? The point is that you can't keep putting the same teams in year in and year out. You fools continue to do this, and its making you look like morons. So stop it! Stop it! STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now, with that outta da way, lets getda hood on wit it.

[SIZE=21pt]PLAYOFFS[/SIZE]

Dallas over Chicago

Arizona over Atl

Patriots over Steelers

Chiefs over Broncos

Washington over Dallas

Carolina over Arizona

Chiefs over Jaguars

Dolphins over Patriots

Carolina over Washington

Dolphins over Chiefs

Carolina over Miami

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I count 7 holdovers in your playoffs :P
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In 1997 7/12 teams from the previous year's playoffs made it again. What I was trying to say was that I think this year will mark a return to 1997 in that regard. Jeez, you really have to spell things out for some peoples!
 
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I could not disagree with the Miami pick more.  I'll be surprised if they get the wildcard.  Saban has them improving but they are still far behind the Pats overall and have a ways to go before they're a title contender.  Their O line is mediocre, their star QB's status is still up in the air, their defense is still built around too many aging players and if Ronnie Brown gets hurt the O will take a huge step backwards.  They'll be a tough opponent but there still not anywhere near being an elite team.

As for the end of the year the team I saw in the final week was barely able to hold off a Patriots team that was being lead by Matt Cassell and Bam Childress.  Miami is improving and definetly headed in the right direction.  Yet, they still have a lot of work to do before they fully recover from the Wanny years.

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Two big differences between them and Cincy: 1. Pepper has had a lot more time to rehab than Palmer. 2. The Dolphins won 7 games in a row to end last year with crapola at QB. Even a hurt Pepper is an upgrade there. A hurt Palmer is obviously a downgrade for Cincy.They won their last 7 games last year including beating the SD Chargers who were fighting for the playoff lives. Were all of those teams not playing hard like the Pats?? A hurt Culpepper is an upgrade over whomever they had at QB last year. Why do you think they'll be any worse than they showed in the last half of last season?

In case you guys havn't noticed, I'm big on teams that finished strong and down on teams like Denver, TB, Indy, etc. that had great years but very disappointing finishes in the playoffs. I think that stuff carries over.

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I noticed the only team you mentioned were the Chargers.The others: Oak, Buf, NYJ, Ten, 2nd team NE. Not exactly a murderer's row there.

 
I could not disagree with the Miami pick more.  I'll be surprised if they get the wildcard.  Saban has them improving but they are still far behind the Pats overall and have a ways to go before they're a title contender.  Their O line is mediocre, their star QB's status is still up in the air, their defense is still built around too many aging players and if Ronnie Brown gets hurt the O will take a huge step backwards.  They'll be a tough opponent but there still not anywhere near being an elite team.

As for the end of the year the team I saw in the final week was barely able to hold off a Patriots team that was being lead by Matt Cassell and Bam Childress.  Miami is improving and definetly headed in the right direction.  Yet, they still have a lot of work to do before they fully recover from the Wanny years.

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Two big differences between them and Cincy: 1. Pepper has had a lot more time to rehab than Palmer. 2. The Dolphins won 7 games in a row to end last year with crapola at QB. Even a hurt Pepper is an upgrade there. A hurt Palmer is obviously a downgrade for Cincy.They won their last 7 games last year including beating the SD Chargers who were fighting for the playoff lives. Were all of those teams not playing hard like the Pats?? A hurt Culpepper is an upgrade over whomever they had at QB last year. Why do you think they'll be any worse than they showed in the last half of last season?

In case you guys havn't noticed, I'm big on teams that finished strong and down on teams like Denver, TB, Indy, etc. that had great years but very disappointing finishes in the playoffs. I think that stuff carries over.

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I noticed the only team you mentioned were the Chargers.The others: Oak, Buf, NYJ, Ten, 2nd team NE. Not exactly a murderer's row there.

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Proving that you can beat the teams you should beat is what makes you a good team imo. There are no easy wins in the NFL. Oakland went on the road and beat a Washington team that went to the 2nd round of the playoffs. Buffalo won at Cincy in week 16 in a game that was crucial for Cincy to have. The Jets beat the Bucs.
 
4. Pack(3-13): Besides FAvre, What Is There To Like Here? This team is old at the important spots. They fell apart last year. What is any better this year? They'll continue to build through the draft. They should trade Favre to a team like the Redskins in exchange for future 1st rounders, but they won't because they're stupid.

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I'll take the over jw! I think the old man's got five wins in him this year. Name your price. :thumbup:

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So since you predict 5 and I predict 3, I think we should set the bar at 4. Any more, you win. Any less, I win. Deal? Loser has to run in the Boston Marathon next year. Its a deal!
 
4. Bengals(6-10): Palmer is hurt. They suck without him. :crazy:Their D sucks. He won't be full strength and it will be a most disappointing year in Cincy. Cee.

3. Cleveland(8-8): I think they make a ton of strides under Crunell. This team is going places. Only the development of Fryman will keep them at bay this year. But I'm a lovin' that D. This team plays hard and with arrows in their socks. Watch out in 2010!

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1. Chiefs(11-5): What is not to like here? Huh? Dominant running game, solid passing game, improving offense. This team can play with the big boys, and they are a big boy, and they can play with the other big boys, and they are a big boy. Whoooo!

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4. Bills(3-13): Horrible draft. I don't like much about this team. Blah. :popcorn:

3. New Yorke(6-10): Love their draft, but just too much uncertainty here. QB situation especially. RB too. Their D can be top 10 and maybe even better. I love how they helped the o-line first. This team really isn't far from being a contender for true. Lets go pink.

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2. Seattle(9-7): Super bowl losers generally don't make the playoffs the next year. This team will be resiliant, but 9 wins is what I will to give themselves. Losing Hutch...whoa.

1. Arizona(10-6): Warner stays healthy. This team shocks the world. Results baby. Results. Yeah yeah yeah. Don't you miss out. They've already sold out season tickets according to the hot stove.

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I like your analysis overall but these are the picks that really stuck out to me as questionable.- I agree with you that Palmer is going to miss time but that offense still has a LOT of weapons and a good OL, CLE made some progress this offseason but they'll still need to make a lot more.

- So it's the same atrocious KC defense with a possibly more vanilla offense under the new coaching scheme? Even if they were returning the same coaches that made that offense so spectacular most of that offense is ancient. Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. I think next year we'll be talking about how they should have started rebuilding this year.

- BUF wasn't as bad as they played last year. NYJ, despite better QB play, may actually be worse this year than they played last year after they lost most of their OL. I like their draft but we're still talking about rookies.

- The ARZ love is getting a little ahead of itself everywhere. They still can't stop anyone and have one of the worst OL's in the NFL. Add a concusion/TO-prone immobile old QB and a rookie QB behind that line and I just don't see them winning a division this year regardless who they have playing the skill positions. ARZ may have made a few strides to get closer to SEA but they have several more strides to go.

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All fair points. No matter what I go on to say, let me first let you know that I think you're a man after a bread sammich and that is to be respected. Laof! I respect that. and you should do to. Heres my thinking:-Cincy and Baltimore have improved. Pit is Pit. Cincy lost their franchise QB and they have a bad taste in their gullets after the way last season ended. The offense is very very good, but without Palmer, I see them being only slightly above average. Their D on the other hand was #22 last year. I don't see how a slightly above average offense can make up for that, especially in an improved division.

BTW, here is their non conference schedule for next year: KC, NE, TB, Car, Atl, SD, NO, Oak, Indy, Den. Thats not easy, girlfriend.

-KC's defense was #16 last year imo, and I see them iimproving this year imo. They drafted defensive players with their first 2 and 3 out their first 4 picks imo. Thats not bad imo. Their offense will not slow down at all imo.

-Rookie o-linemen don't take that long to develop. Those 2 should be able to plug and play the #####. This team was in the playoffs IIRC 2 years ago. Pennington, when healthy, is good NFL QB. Buffalo is just blah. I can't even talk about them they are so blah. Whenever I start to talk about them I just say blah. BLAH!

-Arizona plays in a horrible division. Edge is a great pass blocker. And they have the sun on their side. The last team to have that won the super bowl 3 straight years. You do the math, son.

 
.3. Bucs(7-9): adn I think their D is average.
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Alright underground-pissbody, maybe slightly above average. They were #8 in points allowed last year. Great not giving up yardage(6 vs pass, 6 vs run, 1 overall), but they weren't great at forcing turnovers(24th in the league in takeaways, which is obviously not playoff calibre), so #8 is about right- no fluke there.If you notice, the Ravens(my 2nd favorite team) were #10 in points allowed last year, and similarly I said that I think their D won't be great this year. Looking at last year's results only does so much, foster. Sure they were #8 and #10 last year, but I see other teams got better while they aged a bit. TB didn't draft a defender in the first 3 rounds and didn't bring in any big FAs. Their entire division only got better on offense with (Bree, Bush, Keyshawn, Deangelo) entering the division, and I think we can all agree that ATlanta had a down year and could easily be improved.

Don't take offense to every line thats bad about your team. I think that they had a good run last year, but it ended poorly with a home playoff loss, I don't think they did a ton in Free agency, and I think others have gotten better.

I think their D finishes around 12-18 in points allowed, which is average. If you care to provide evidence as to why you think they'll improve or stay at #8 feel free, but you :lmao: are not helping the pooper.

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But yet, you pick a horrid Redskins offense to bounce back to a 12-4 record, despite adding two B/C level wideouts and counting on the corpse of Mark Brunell and Jason Campbell to guide them there.The Bucs D has been ranked in the top-10 every year since 1996. I'll just go ahead and assume they'll be better than average again.

 
4. Pack(3-13): Besides FAvre, What Is There To Like Here? This team is old at the important spots. They fell apart last year. What is any better this year? They'll continue to build through the draft. They should trade Favre to a team like the Redskins in exchange for future 1st rounders, but they won't because they're stupid.

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I'll take the over jw! I think the old man's got five wins in him this year. Name your price. :thumbup:

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Me too.
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Ok, you're in on the bet too. Loser has to run in the Boston Marathon next year. O/U is 4.
 
2. Broncos(10-6): I really don't like the drafting of a QB for a team that needs to win NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sTILL, they have a solid squad overall and will compete for the crown.

1. Chiefs(11-5): What is not to like here? Huh? Dominant running game, solid passing game, improving offense. This team can play with the big boys, and they are a big boy, and they can play with the other big boys, and they are a big boy. Whoooo!

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What is not to like with the Chiefs? Um, their defense is still terrible and while Herman Edwards is a defensive guy, so is Tony Dungy and it took him years to turn the Colts defense around, so there ya go. Besides, going from Vermeil to Edwards is a dropoff, so that will impact the team, too. While the Broncos first round draft choice is a look to the future, the addition of Javon Walker will upgrade the passing game (even if he is not 100% off his injury, he is still a major upgrade over Lelie). They were 13-3 last year with a very tough first half schedule, so barring any major injuries, I don't see them being any worse than 11-5.

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homer.
 
Other than your complete butchery of the NFC East standings... :thumbup:

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At least he admits he's a homer.

I'm another 'Skins homer and I freely acknowledge that any possible combination of season-end standings is a realistic prediction. That division is up for grabs and could well have all four teams in the running for the division title during the last 2-3 weeks.
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I'm also a Ravens fan and I have them missing the playoffs. :icypots:
 
I could not disagree with the Miami pick more.  I'll be surprised if they get the wildcard.  Saban has them improving but they are still far behind the Pats overall and have a ways to go before they're a title contender.  Their O line is mediocre, their star QB's status is still up in the air, their defense is still built around too many aging players and if Ronnie Brown gets hurt the O will take a huge step backwards.  They'll be a tough opponent but there still not anywhere near being an elite team.

As for the end of the year the team I saw in the final week was barely able to hold off a Patriots team that was being lead by Matt Cassell and Bam Childress.  Miami is improving and definetly headed in the right direction.  Yet, they still have a lot of work to do before they fully recover from the Wanny years.

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Two big differences between them and Cincy: 1. Pepper has had a lot more time to rehab than Palmer. 2. The Dolphins won 7 games in a row to end last year with crapola at QB. Even a hurt Pepper is an upgrade there. A hurt Palmer is obviously a downgrade for Cincy.They won their last 7 games last year including beating the SD Chargers who were fighting for the playoff lives. Were all of those teams not playing hard like the Pats?? A hurt Culpepper is an upgrade over whomever they had at QB last year. Why do you think they'll be any worse than they showed in the last half of last season?

In case you guys havn't noticed, I'm big on teams that finished strong and down on teams like Denver, TB, Indy, etc. that had great years but very disappointing finishes in the playoffs. I think that stuff carries over.

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I noticed the only team you mentioned were the Chargers.The others: Oak, Buf, NYJ, Ten, 2nd team NE. Not exactly a murderer's row there.

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Proving that you can beat the teams you should beat is what makes you a good team imo. There are no easy wins in the NFL. Oakland went on the road and beat a Washington team that went to the 2nd round of the playoffs. Buffalo won at Cincy in week 16 in a game that was crucial for Cincy to have. The Jets beat the Bucs.
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I understand your point, and agree with it to some extent, but the fact remains that out of that win streak, there was only one quality opponent (I'm not counting 2nd team NE), and no playoff teams (again excluding 2nd team NE). In fact, minus the one quality opponent and 2nd team NE, those teams won all of 4 games each, except Buffalo who won 5.Also I just realized they won their final 6 games, not their final 7.

So we have a 6 game win streak, which included some of the very worst teams in the league, a 2nd string team, and one 9-7 team.

I just don't see that carrying over into a 12-4 season.

 
.3. Bucs(7-9): adn I think their D is average.
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Alright underground-pissbody, maybe slightly above average. They were #8 in points allowed last year. Great not giving up yardage(6 vs pass, 6 vs run, 1 overall), but they weren't great at forcing turnovers(24th in the league in takeaways, which is obviously not playoff calibre), so #8 is about right- no fluke there.If you notice, the Ravens(my 2nd favorite team) were #10 in points allowed last year, and similarly I said that I think their D won't be great this year. Looking at last year's results only does so much, foster. Sure they were #8 and #10 last year, but I see other teams got better while they aged a bit. TB didn't draft a defender in the first 3 rounds and didn't bring in any big FAs. Their entire division only got better on offense with (Bree, Bush, Keyshawn, Deangelo) entering the division, and I think we can all agree that ATlanta had a down year and could easily be improved.

Don't take offense to every line thats bad about your team. I think that they had a good run last year, but it ended poorly with a home playoff loss, I don't think they did a ton in Free agency, and I think others have gotten better.

I think their D finishes around 12-18 in points allowed, which is average. If you care to provide evidence as to why you think they'll improve or stay at #8 feel free, but you :lmao: are not helping the pooper.

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But yet, you pick a horrid Redskins offense to bounce back to a 12-4 record, despite adding two B/C level wideouts and counting on the corpse of Mark Brunell and Jason Campbell to guide them there.The Bucs D has been ranked in the top-10 every year since 1996. I'll just go ahead and assume they'll be better than average again.

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Capella, this is where your homerism gets the best of you. I really do like you as a poster, but you continue to fiddle with keester and it gets you in trouble.TB's defense last year: 8th

Wash's offense last year: 13th

TB: added nobody of significance to their D

Wash: added 2 very solid #2/#3 WRs which was their biggest weakness and one of the best o-coordinators in the history of the game

Yet Washington's offense was "horrid" according to you and its laughable that I think TB will fall to average on D. Homerism at its best, son.

Please please go on and tell me whats is so "horrid" about this:

13th in points scored

11th in total yardage

 
I count 7 holdovers in your playoffs :P
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In 1997 7/12 teams from the previous year's playoffs made it again. What I was trying to say was that I think this year will mark a return to 1997 in that regard. Jeez, you really have to spell things out for some peoples!

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I'm just givin' ya a hard time :boxing:

I enjoyed the read :)

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I know. It was just an oversight by me. Mistake made, but I'll stand by my predictions instead of editing. Oh well.
 
I could not disagree with the Miami pick more.  I'll be surprised if they get the wildcard.  Saban has them improving but they are still far behind the Pats overall and have a ways to go before they're a title contender.  Their O line is mediocre, their star QB's status is still up in the air, their defense is still built around too many aging players and if Ronnie Brown gets hurt the O will take a huge step backwards.  They'll be a tough opponent but there still not anywhere near being an elite team.

As for the end of the year the team I saw in the final week was barely able to hold off a Patriots team that was being lead by Matt Cassell and Bam Childress.  Miami is improving and definetly headed in the right direction.  Yet, they still have a lot of work to do before they fully recover from the Wanny years.

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Two big differences between them and Cincy: 1. Pepper has had a lot more time to rehab than Palmer. 2. The Dolphins won 7 games in a row to end last year with crapola at QB. Even a hurt Pepper is an upgrade there. A hurt Palmer is obviously a downgrade for Cincy.They won their last 7 games last year including beating the SD Chargers who were fighting for the playoff lives. Were all of those teams not playing hard like the Pats?? A hurt Culpepper is an upgrade over whomever they had at QB last year. Why do you think they'll be any worse than they showed in the last half of last season?

In case you guys havn't noticed, I'm big on teams that finished strong and down on teams like Denver, TB, Indy, etc. that had great years but very disappointing finishes in the playoffs. I think that stuff carries over.

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I noticed the only team you mentioned were the Chargers.The others: Oak, Buf, NYJ, Ten, 2nd team NE. Not exactly a murderer's row there.

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Proving that you can beat the teams you should beat is what makes you a good team imo. There are no easy wins in the NFL. Oakland went on the road and beat a Washington team that went to the 2nd round of the playoffs. Buffalo won at Cincy in week 16 in a game that was crucial for Cincy to have. The Jets beat the Bucs.
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I understand your point, and agree with it to some extent, but the fact remains that out of that win streak, there was only one quality opponent (I'm not counting 2nd team NE), and no playoff teams (again excluding 2nd team NE). In fact, minus the one quality opponent and 2nd team NE, those teams won all of 4 games each, except Buffalo who won 5.Also I just realized they won their final 6 games, not their final 7.

So we have a 6 game win streak, which included some of the very worst teams in the league, a 2nd string team, and one 9-7 team.

I just don't see that carrying over into a 12-4 season.

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Sorry, 6. My mistake there. Saying that SD is just a 9-7 isn't really fair. Thats a team that was fighting for their playoff lives. Thats a team that beat Indy in Indy to give them their first loss. Three out of those 6 games were on the road too. I just think that has to carry over a bit, especially for a team that needs confidence. They all belivee in Saban now and will be ready for this season. I understand that its a reach. Thats what I'm doing here. Predicting a final 4 of Pit, Indy, Car, Sea would be boring and uninteresting. I think Miami has a good shot to be a sleeper this year and I'm going with them. I fully understand that I could be wrong. But I love what they're doing there.

 
TB's defense last year: 8th

Wash's offense last year: 13th

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Uh, Tampa was #1 in defense last year.
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They were #1 in yardage allowed. How much does that matter on the scoreboard??? They were 24th in the league in forcing turnovers though. So basically they played a very safe defense and didn't take a lot of risks. Thats fine. But I'd much rather have a team that is #5 in yardage allowed but gets opportune turnovers and finishes #1 in points allowed. They were #8 in points allowed. That is what matters. Still waiting for your reply about the "horrid" Redskins' offense, son.

 
I could not disagree with the Miami pick more.  I'll be surprised if they get the wildcard.  Saban has them improving but they are still far behind the Pats overall and have a ways to go before they're a title contender.  Their O line is mediocre, their star QB's status is still up in the air, their defense is still built around too many aging players and if Ronnie Brown gets hurt the O will take a huge step backwards.  They'll be a tough opponent but there still not anywhere near being an elite team.

As for the end of the year the team I saw in the final week was barely able to hold off a Patriots team that was being lead by Matt Cassell and Bam Childress.  Miami is improving and definetly headed in the right direction.  Yet, they still have a lot of work to do before they fully recover from the Wanny years.

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Two big differences between them and Cincy: 1. Pepper has had a lot more time to rehab than Palmer. 2. The Dolphins won 7 games in a row to end last year with crapola at QB. Even a hurt Pepper is an upgrade there. A hurt Palmer is obviously a downgrade for Cincy.They won their last 7 games last year including beating the SD Chargers who were fighting for the playoff lives. Were all of those teams not playing hard like the Pats?? A hurt Culpepper is an upgrade over whomever they had at QB last year. Why do you think they'll be any worse than they showed in the last half of last season?

In case you guys havn't noticed, I'm big on teams that finished strong and down on teams like Denver, TB, Indy, etc. that had great years but very disappointing finishes in the playoffs. I think that stuff carries over.

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I noticed the only team you mentioned were the Chargers.The others: Oak, Buf, NYJ, Ten, 2nd team NE. Not exactly a murderer's row there.

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Proving that you can beat the teams you should beat is what makes you a good team imo. There are no easy wins in the NFL. Oakland went on the road and beat a Washington team that went to the 2nd round of the playoffs. Buffalo won at Cincy in week 16 in a game that was crucial for Cincy to have. The Jets beat the Bucs.
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I understand your point, and agree with it to some extent, but the fact remains that out of that win streak, there was only one quality opponent (I'm not counting 2nd team NE), and no playoff teams (again excluding 2nd team NE). In fact, minus the one quality opponent and 2nd team NE, those teams won all of 4 games each, except Buffalo who won 5.Also I just realized they won their final 6 games, not their final 7.

So we have a 6 game win streak, which included some of the very worst teams in the league, a 2nd string team, and one 9-7 team.

I just don't see that carrying over into a 12-4 season.

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Sorry, 6. My mistake there. Saying that SD is just a 9-7 isn't really fair. Thats a team that was fighting for their playoff lives. Thats a team that beat Indy in Indy to give them their first loss. Three out of those 6 games were on the road too. I just think that has to carry over a bit, especially for a team that needs confidence. They all belivee in Saban now and will be ready for this season. I understand that its a reach. Thats what I'm doing here. Predicting a final 4 of Pit, Indy, Car, Sea would be boring and uninteresting. I think Miami has a good shot to be a sleeper this year and I'm going with them. I fully understand that I could be wrong. But I love what they're doing there.

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Well, I do disagree, but I also respect the fact that you're willing to go out on a limb rather than just go with the teams everyone else will pick. :thumbup:
 

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