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Leinart certainly has looked poised when he's played with the Cardinals. Then again, that was during the preseason.

How do you think the Chiefs Defense is going to handle Leinart? Devour him? Or does Leinart actually have a good game?

 
Statistically, a pretty decent game. Nothing great, something along the lines of 200-250, 2 TDs and 2 INTs.

AZ will not be really in the game after the 1st quarter.

 
Statistically, a pretty decent game. Nothing great, something along the lines of 200-250, 2 TDs and 2 INTs. AZ will not be really in the game after the 1st quarter.
I doubt he gets those kinds of numbers. 250 yards and 2 scores against a defense that has allowed an average of half of that yardage and zero touchdowns all year?I see it going one of three ways: (1) the Cardinals are somewhat in the game and he's able to dink and dunk, play it safe and manage the game (typical stat-line: 18-28, 170 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT); (2) the Cardinals are forced to play catch-up and he does OK (typical stat-line: 26-40, 250 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT); or (3) the Cardinals are forced to play catch-up and the Chiefs continue their dominance (typical stat-line: 17-42, 190 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT).I'd guess it'll mix of (1) and (3). He'll begin stat-padding late in the third quarter when the game is lost, but he'll be able to manage the game until then with short, easy passes. Prediction: 15-28, 190 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT, 1 fumble.
 
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Kansas City is one of the few teams this year playing with a major chip on their shoulder. They will crush AZ six ways to Sunday, on the offense and defense.

Leinart's line will be around 150 / 1 TD / 2 Ints. KC will have the time of possession advantage like 40:20.

Ugly.

 
Statistically, a pretty decent game. Nothing great, something along the lines of 200-250, 2 TDs and 2 INTs. AZ will not be really in the game after the 1st quarter.
I doubt he gets those kinds of numbers. 250 yards and 2 scores against a defense that has allowed an average of half of that yardage and zero touchdowns all year?I see it going one of three ways: (1) the Cardinals are somewhat in the game and he's able to dink and dunk, play it safe and manage the game (typical stat-line: 18-28, 170 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT); (2) the Cardinals are forced to play catch-up and he does OK (typical stat-line: 26-40, 250 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT); or (3) the Cardinals are forced to play catch-up and the Chiefs continue their dominance (typical stat-line: 17-42, 190 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT).I'd guess it'll mix of (1) and (3). He'll begin stat-padding late in the third quarter when the game is lost, but he'll be able to manage the game until then with short, easy passes. Prediction: 15-28, 190 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT, 1 fumble.
You may be right, we'll see. I'm seeing the catchup game, but with some success. It won't be pretty, but in the end, we'll think Matt did well for his first game. (I should add we'll see a handful of sacks from Allen, DJ and Hali)
 
You may be right, we'll see. I'm seeing the catchup game, but with some success. It won't be pretty, but in the end, we'll think Matt did well for his first game. (I should add we'll see a handful of sacks from Allen, DJ and Hali)
I agree with this statement, but one thing to think about is that the Chiefs could score very quickly and give the Cards a lot of time of possession for Leinart to work with. I think early it will be ugly for AZ, but as they get their lead, I think the Chiefs go into the prevent and AZ will probably get a few cheap scores later in the game after they call the dogs off.
 
STONE COLD LOCK OF THE WEEK!!

KC pounds it down my little red tweety birds throats with LJ right LJ left LJ up the middle. LJ through the tunnel, LJ at the concession stands, LJ in the press box ect..

If Lienhart coughs up 2 turnovers in the 1st half by a fumble and INT. This game could go 38-17 KC.

 
You can get as ballsy as you want here, but I can't fathom a rookie quarterback (no, I dont care who he is, where he played, or how many NCAA Championships or awards he has) being favored in his first game in the NFL with a questionable defense and leading an offense thats not set up for ball control. Not saying he WON'T have a good game as stranger things have happened, but no doubt its against the odds.

 
I think you guys with these predictions are expecting way too many points. I see a final score in the 20-17 range.

 
You may be right, we'll see. I'm seeing the catchup game, but with some success. It won't be pretty, but in the end, we'll think Matt did well for his first game. (I should add we'll see a handful of sacks from Allen, DJ and Hali)
I agree with this statement, but one thing to think about is that the Chiefs could score very quickly and give the Cards a lot of time of possession for Leinart to work with. I think early it will be ugly for AZ, but as they get their lead, I think the Chiefs go into the prevent and AZ will probably get a few cheap scores later in the game after they call the dogs off.
I suppose the best case scenario is that they get behind and he has to throw the ball a ton. Of course 3 INTs wont be good for most fantasy owners unless he gobbles up some serious yards to offset it.I don't know that they would call off the dogs unless they are up big. Being able to go after a rookie QB for a couple quarters would be a defensive players dream so I dont know how easy they'll be on him
 
The Saints are playing Tampa at home. Did you see what they did to a league-leading offense at home?

Leinhart may surprise, by which I mean 200/2/1 and a fumble, but Tampa is DOOMED.

 
Well, let's see...Arizona is 31st in rushing offense. They couldn't run their way out of a wet paper bag. Since they'll be in 2nd/3rd and long all damn day, Leinart is going to get his butt handed to him. It will be ugly.

On top of that, they can't play defense at all. 25th against the rush, 27th against the pass. Yeah...

Chiefs 31 - Cardinals 10 :banned:

 
Well, let's see...Arizona is 31st in rushing offense. They couldn't run their way out of a wet paper bag. Since they'll be in 2nd/3rd and long all damn day, Leinart is going to get his butt handed to him. It will be ugly.On top of that, they can't play defense at all. 25th against the rush, 27th against the pass. Yeah...Chiefs 31 - Cardinals 10 :banned:
That's ridiculous! It's a road game for the Chiefs, for crying out loud!! Ever hear of home field advantage??!!!Chiefs 31 - Cardinals 13 :banned:
 
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IMO predicting a KC romp is more than a little premature (although I think a huge day for LJ is a lock). KC's OL is still suspect. And BOTH QBs are also suspect. Huard just had his best game ever ie in TEN years. I see both making mistakes in this game that cost them.

Plus IMO the AZ offense is due for a big game. There's too much talent there to be this quiet for too much longer. Could go either way.

 
IMO predicting a KC romp is more than a little premature (although I think a huge day for LJ is a lock). KC's OL is still suspect. And BOTH QBs are also suspect. Huard just had his best game ever ie in TEN years. I see both making mistakes in this game that cost them. Plus IMO the AZ offense is due for a big game. There's too much talent there to be this quiet for too much longer. Could go either way.
I sort of agree with this, it will be a romp, but a strong day for the IDPs. What's the record for total sacks in a game by both teams?OTOH, Huard can just hand off all day.FWIW, if any IDPer doesn't play Hayes, Allen, and DJ this week, they're making a mistake. (not to mention the Corners and Safeties)
 
Well, let's see...Arizona is 31st in rushing offense. They couldn't run their way out of a wet paper bag. Since they'll be in 2nd/3rd and long all damn day, Leinart is going to get his butt handed to him. It will be ugly.On top of that, they can't play defense at all. 25th against the rush, 27th against the pass. Yeah...Chiefs 31 - Cardinals 10 :banned:
That's ridiculous! It's a road game for the Chiefs, for crying out loud!! Ever hear of home field advantage??!!!Chiefs 31 - Cardinals 13 :banned:
Couch Potato Rocks!!!Here's my take: Which KC offense are we gonna see? Is Herm gonna pass like Indy like he did last week or is he going to run the ball like everybody predicted that he would this year? Are they going to score first and get the AZ offense puckered up like they did to SF last week or will they try to run the ball early and keep the game close enough for AZ to gain confidence? I hope he throws early and runs late like last week because that appears to be the recipe for success for this years Chiefs. If they try to run it early I think we'll see a close low scoring game because although LJ looked great last week vs SF the Chiefs are still not man enough on the OL and LJ bouncing and half running to the outside while waiting for his blockers to set up a hole will not get it done this year.
 
IMO predicting a KC romp is more than a little premature
The Cardinals stink, and the Chiefs just absolutely murdered the one and only team Arizona competed with. If the Cardinals had blown out the 49ers, I might see where you're coming from.
And BOTH QBs are also suspect. Huard just had his best game ever ie in TEN years. I see both making mistakes in this game that cost them.
He won't need to win the game. The Chiefs have two things Matt Leinart doesn't: (1) a running game, and (2) a defense.The Chiefs will protect Huard, literally and figuratively, and he'll be able to manage the game as he did a week ago. Leinart will have no such luxury, and he won't be facing a minor league defense as Huard will.

Plus IMO the AZ offense is due for a big game. There's too much talent there to be this quiet for too much longer. Could go either way.
No quarterback and no offensive line.People, particularly fantasy football players, get far too caught up in overhyped, overrated skill positions.

Football starts in the trenches and a great quarterback helps. That's what enables the Chiefs of the last 5 years to be so successful; they ran the football, protected the quarterback and had a leader capable of making all the throws in pressure situations.

I'll predict a win for the Chiefs, and I don't think it's remotely going out on a limb to say it won't be close. But I might be wrong about that, and so be it. But I don't see any way I'll be wrong about the reasons for why it shouldn't be close. The Chiefs dominate the Cardinals in every single matchup on the board: pass offense, pass defense, rush offense, rush defense. The only one that is even kind of close is the Cardinals' passing attack versus the Chiefs' pass defense, but I still favor the unit ranked No. 2 in the entire NFL who didn't achieve such a ranking by facing rookie quarterbacks.

 
It seems that all you KC lovers have a take on this that differs vastly from the experts in Vegas. Looks like KC is only a three point favorite as of today. (Kansas City) -3 o39.5

Granted KC whopped SF in week four at home. Everything went right that day. But let's see, week one Loss at home to Cinci 32-10 managing one TD, week two Loss at Den 9-6, managing only 2 fgs. AZ is at home and they have enough playmakers on offense to keep this close.

 
It seems that all you KC lovers have a take on this that differs vastly from the experts in Vegas. Looks like KC is only a three point favorite as of today. (Kansas City) -3 o39.5
Vegas only gives you a line for a blowout when it's HIGHLY unlikely anything else occurs (see: TEN@IND).
But let's see, week one Loss at home to Cinci 32-10 managing one TD
:thumbdown: 23-10.

And everything went WRONG, so at least try and play on a level freaking play field here, mmkay?

week two Loss at Den 9-6, managing only 2 fgs.
And holding a semi-capable offense to 3 field goals.
AZ is at home and they have enough playmakers on offense to keep this close.
People speak of Arizona being at home as if it means anything. It doesn't. They barely beat the 49ers and lost to the Rams. For christ's sake, people, these are God-awful teams the Cardinals are eeking out wins and losses against. The Chiefs are a big question mark because their season has been up and down, but they're no pushover ala San Francisco.As for "playmakers to keep it close": OVERRATED.

Give me a good offensive line and a good quarterback before ANY skill position players.

Even if the Cardinals were to score often on the Chiefs (which is unlikely), the Chiefs have their own playmakers to score right back on a much inferior defense. That's why it shouldn't be close: the Chiefs can shut Arizona down, but if they don't, they should score at will on them. Win-win.

 
Leinart certainly has looked poised when he's played with the Cardinals. Then again, that was during the preseason.How do you think the Chiefs Defense is going to handle Leinart? Devour him? Or does Leinart actually have a good game?
"Walking into a trap"????Ever hear the one about the guy who sets the bear trap upside down, and....Never mind.... start Matt with confidence.
 
The DEN game is the one I am basing my prediction on. DEN is 4x the team ARIZ is and KC took them to OT. I don't expect non-KC homers to know this, but KC was 5-20 the last 25 games out there. Its like that in the rivalry. two of the best home field advantages in the NFL. So for KC to go to OT out there and only allowing 6 pts tells me a LOT.

And I think basing the prediction off of SF is not ideal. If the offensive performance @ DEN was a 20 on a 100 pt. scale and the Frisco game was lets say a 95, I think somewhere around a 70 would suffice down there in AZ.

I think the KC D is THAT good. You don't hold teams 10 straight QTRs w/o a TD in the NFL and it not be impressive. I see the DEF creating short fields all day, meaning Huard, LJ & Co. won't need the same type of performance they had a week ago.

 
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The DEN game is the one I am basing my prediction on. DEN is 4x the team ARIZ is and KC took them to OT. I don't expect non-KC homers to know this, but KC was 5-20 the last 25 games out there. Its like that in the rivalry. two of the best home field advantages in the NFL. So for KC to go to OT out there and only allowing 6 pts tells me a LOT.And I think basing the prediction off of SF is not ideal. If the offensive performance @ DEN was a 20 on a 100 pt. scale and the Frisco game was lets say a 95, I think somewhere around a 70 would suffice down there in AZ. I think the KC D is THAT good. You don't hold teams 10 straight QTRs w/o a TD in the NFL and it not be impressive. I see the DEF creating short fields all day, meaning Huard, LJ & Co. won't need the same type of performance they had a week ago.
what's your impression of Tamba Hali so far?
 
Leinart certainly has looked poised when he's played with the Cardinals. Then again, that was during the preseason.

How do you think the Chiefs Defense is going to handle Leinart? Devour him? Or does Leinart actually have a good game?
"Walking into a trap"????Ever hear the one about the guy who sets the bear trap upside down, and....

Never mind.... start Matt with confidence.
hold on..... i wanna hear about that... sounds like something they'd do on Jack###
 
what's your impression of Tamba Hali so far?
Not to speak on Kevin's behalf, but...http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/606/hal...edfumblehz0.gif

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He's been a relentless pass-rusher who also shows up in the running game. Personally couldn't be happier with the pick. The Chiefs have two ends who are active on every single play, always hustle and never give up. They might not be Julius Peppers and Mario Williams in terms of talent, but I'd take their motor over anyone elses in football.

Look for Leonard Davis and Oliver Ross to get abused on more than one occassion tommorow.

 
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The DEN game is the one I am basing my prediction on. DEN is 4x the team ARIZ is and KC took them to OT. I don't expect non-KC homers to know this, but KC was 5-20 the last 25 games out there. Its like that in the rivalry. two of the best home field advantages in the NFL. So for KC to go to OT out there and only allowing 6 pts tells me a LOT.And I think basing the prediction off of SF is not ideal. If the offensive performance @ DEN was a 20 on a 100 pt. scale and the Frisco game was lets say a 95, I think somewhere around a 70 would suffice down there in AZ. I think the KC D is THAT good. You don't hold teams 10 straight QTRs w/o a TD in the NFL and it not be impressive. I see the DEF creating short fields all day, meaning Huard, LJ & Co. won't need the same type of performance they had a week ago.
what's your impression of Tamba Hali so far?
The impression I get of Hali is very good. He clearly has a motor and a burst that most rookies don't. He fell in the draft because of one bad workout and it looks like KC may have lucked out. I still wonder if he is strong enough to stand out when the offense runs straight at him, but as a pass rusher, he is amazingly quick around the end.He has also been lined up all across the line, RE, LE, DT, NT and even as a stand-up rusher. His versatility and is ability to make plays from each position is a major factor in why he has made such a good impact so far.He has a decent shot to be DEF ROY.
 
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He's been a relentless pass-rusher who also shows up in the running game. Personally couldn't be happier with the pick. The Chiefs have two ends who are active on every single play, always hustle and never give up. They might not be Julius Peppers and Mario Williams in terms of talent, but I'd take their motor over anyone elses in football.
:yes: now if only some of those DT picks were to have panned out. :wall:
 
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The Jacket said:
He's been a relentless pass-rusher who also shows up in the running game. Personally couldn't be happier with the pick. The Chiefs have two ends who are active on every single play, always hustle and never give up. They might not be Julius Peppers and Mario Williams in terms of talent, but I'd take their motor over anyone elses in football.
:yes: now if only some of those DT picks were to have panned out. :wall:
Ain't that the truth.
 
Right.

James Reed and Ron Edwards have definitely been solid additions (and better than any DT I've seen in a Chiefs uniform in years), but Ryan Sims and Junior Siavii... good God do they stink.

 
I know they just ripped Lienhart a new one on NFL Match Up.

Said you don't go to the ground and curl up in the fetal position & that he reminded them of Jeff George on that play. You guys saw the highlights of it right?

Probably just rookie nerves being thrown into a game where the D were just pinning their ears back and racing each other to the QB, but it was pretty pathetic.

If KC gets after him this game, does he fold again?

 

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