KANYE WEST is AWFUL (1 Viewer)

[McGarnicle]

Doesnt get much better than Kanye rockin' with Adam Levine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elVF7oG0pQs

Levine is a ####bird too.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Lou Reed reviews Kanye West

Kanye West is a child of social networking and hip-hop. And he knows about all kinds of music and popular culture. The guy has a real wide palette to play with. That's all over Yeezus. There are moments of supreme beauty and greatness on this record, and then some of it is the same old ####. But the guy really, really, really is talented. He's really trying to raise the bar. No one's near doing what he's doing, it's not even on the same planet.

People say this album is minimal. And yeah, it's minimal. But the parts are maximal. Take "Blood on the Leaves." There's a lot going on there: horns, piano, bass, drums, electronic effects, all rhythmically matched — towards the end of the track, there's now twice as much sonic material. But Kanye stays unmoved while this mountain of sound grows around him. Such an enormous amount of work went into making this album. Each track is like making a movie.

Actually, the whole album is like a movie, or a novel — each track segues into the next. This is not individual tracks sitting on their own island, all alone.

Very often, he'll have this very monotonous section going and then, suddenly —"BAP! BAP! BAP! BAP!"— he disrupts the whole thing and we're on to something new that's absolutely incredible. That's architecture, that's structure — this guy is seriously smart. He keeps unbalancing you. He'll pile on all this sound and then suddenly pull it away, all the way to complete silence, and then there's a scream or a beautiful melody, right there in your face. That's what I call a sucker punch.

He seems to have insinuated in a recent New York Times interview that My Beautiful Dark, Twisted Fantasy was to make up for stupid #### he'd done. And now, with this album, it's "Now that you like me, I'm going to make you unlike me." It's a dare. It's braggadoccio. Axl Rose has done that too, lots of people have. "I Am a God" — I mean, with a song title like that, he's just begging people to attack him.

But why he starts the album off with that typical synth buzzsaw sound is beyond me, but what a sound it is, all gussied up and processed. I can't figure out why he would do that. It's like farting. It's another dare — I dare you to like this. Very perverse.

Still, I have never thought of music as a challenge — you always figure, the audience is at least as smart as you are. You do this because you like it, you think what you're making is beautiful. And if you think it's beautiful, maybe they'll think it's beautiful. When I did Metal Machine Music, New York Times critic John Rockwell said, "This is really challenging." I never thought of it like that. I thought of it like, "Wow, if you like guitars, this is pure guitar, from beginning to end, in all its variations. And you're not stuck to one beat." That's what I thought. Not, "I'm going to challenge you to listen to something I made." I don't think West means that for a second, either. You make stuff because it's what you do and you love it.

That explains the jump-cuts that are all over this record. Over and over, he sets you up so well — something's just got to happen — and he gives it to you, he hits you with these melodies. (He claims he doesn't have those melodic choruses anymore — that's not true. That melody the strings play at the end of "Guilt Trip," it's so beautiful, it makes me so emotional, it brings tears to my eyes.) But it's real fast cutting — boom, you're in it. Like at the end of "I Am a God," anybody else would have been out, but then pow, there's that coda with Justin Vernon, "Ain't no way I'm giving up." Un-#######-believable. It's fantastic. Or that very repetitive part in "Send It Up" that goes on five times as long as it should and then it turns into this amazing thing, a sample of Beenie Man's "Stop Live in a De Pass."

And it works. It works because it's beautiful — you either like it or you don't — there's no reason why it's beautiful. I don't know any musician who sits down and thinks about this. He feels it, and either it moves you too, or it doesn't, and that's that. You can analyze it all you want.

Many lyrics seem like the same old b.s. Maybe because he made up so much of it at the last minute. But it's the energy behind it, the aggression. Usually the Kanye lyrics I like are funny, and he's very funny here. Although he thinks that getting head from nuns and eating Asian ##### with sweet and sour sauce is funny, and it might be, to a 14-year-old — but it has nothing to do with me. Then there's the obligatory endless #######s and menages-a-trois.

But it's just ridiculous that people are getting upset about "Put my fist in her like a civil rights sign"? C'mon, he's just having fun. That's no more serious than if he said he's going to drop a bomb on the Vatican. How can you take that seriously?

And then he'll come out with an amazing line like "We could have been somebody." He's paraphrasing that famous Marlon Brando line from On the Waterfront, "I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am, let's face it. It was you, Charlie." Or he says "I'd rather be a #### than a swallower" — but then he does a whole chorus with Frank Ocean. What he says and what he does are often two different things.

"Hold My Liquor" is just heartbreaking, and particularly coming from where it's coming from — listen to that incredibly poignant hook from a tough guy like Chief Keef, wow. At first, West says "I can hold my liquor" and then he says "I can't hold my liquor." This is classic — classic manic-depressive, going back and forth. Or as the great Delmore Schwartz said, "Being a manic depressive is like having brown hair."

"I'm great, I'm terrible, I'm great, I'm terrible." That's all over this record. And then that synthesized guitar solo on the last minute and a half of that song, he just lets it run, and it's devastating, absolutely majestic.

There are more contradictions on "New Slaves," where he says "#### you and your Hamptons house." But God only knows how much he's spending wherever he is. He's trying to have it both ways — he's the upstart but he's got it all, so he frowns on it. Some people might say that makes him complicated, but it's not really that complicated. He kind of wants to retain his street cred even though he got so popular. And I think he thinks people are going to think he's become one of them — so he's going to very great lengths to claim that he's not. On "New Slaves," he's accusing everyone of being materialistic but you know, when guys do something like that, it's always like, "But we're the exception. It's all those other people, but weknow better."

"New Slaves" has that line "Y'all throwin' contracts at me/ You know that #####s can't read." Wow, wow,wow. That is an amazing thing to put in a lyric. That's a serious accusation in the middle of this rant at other people: an accusation of himself. As if he's some piece of #### from the street who doesn't know nothing. Yeah, right — your mom was a college English professor.

He starts off cool on that track but he winds up yelling at the top of his voice. I think he maybe had a couple of great lines already written for this song but then when he recorded the vocal, but then he just let loose with it and trusted his instincts. Because I can't imagine actually writing down most of these lines. But that's just me.

But musically, he nails it beyond belief on"New Slaves." It's mainly just voice and one or two synths, very sparse, and then it suddenly breaks out into this incredible melodic… God knows what. Frank Ocean sings this soaring part, then it segues into a moody sample of some Hungarian rock band from the '70s. It literally gives me goosebumps. It's like the visuals at the end of the new Superman movie — just overwhelmingly incredible. I played it over and over.

Some people ask why he's screaming on "I Am a God." It's not like a James Brown scream — it's a real scream of terror. It makes my hair stand on end. He knows they could turn on him in two seconds. By "they" I mean the public, the fickle audience. He could kill Taylor Swift and it would all be over.

The juxtaposition of vocal tones on "Blood on the Leaves" is incredible — that pitched-up sample of Nina Simone singing "Strange Fruit" doing a call-and-response with Kanye's very relaxed Autotuned voice. That is fascinating, aurally, nothing short of spectacular. And holy ####, it's so gorgeous rhythmically, where sometimes the vocal parts are matched and sometimes they clash. He's so sad in this song. He's surrounded by everyone except the one he wants — he had this love ripped away from him, before he even knew it. "I know there ain't nothing wrong with me… something strange is happening." Well, surprise, surprise — welcome to the real world, Kanye.

It's fascinating — it's very poignant, but there's nothing warm about it, sonically — it's really electronic, and after a while, his voice and the synth are virtually the same. But I don't think that's a statement about anything — it's just something he heard, and then he made it so you could hear it too.

At so many points in this album, the music breaks into this melody, and it's glorious — I mean, glorious. He has to know that — why else would you do that? He's not just banging his head against the wall, but he acts as though he is. He doesn't want to seem precious, he wants to keep his cred.

And sometimes it's like a synth orchestra. I've never heard anything like it — I've heard people try to do it but no way, it just comes out tacky. Kanye is there. It's like his video for "Runaway," with the ballet dancers — it was like, look out, this guy is making connections. You could bring one into the other — ballet into hip-hop — they're not actually contradictory, and he knew that, he could see it immediately. He obviously can hear that all styles are the same, somewhere deep in their heart, there's a connection. It's all the same ####, it's all music — that's what makes him great. If you like sound, listen to what he's giving you. Majestic and inspiring.

 

[shadyridr]

I always thought his verse on Run This Town was one of his best

 

[Major]

RIP Lou Reed. Like Kanye, a genius.

 

[offdee]

"I drink a Boost for breakfast, and Ensure for dessert / Somebody ordered pancakes I just sip the sizzurp"

Maybe Kanye should put the sizzurp down, awful lyric.

You do realize that lyric was in reference to when he badly broke his jaw back in the day, it was wired shut and all he could do was drink liquids? Obviously a big deal for someone in his profession.

 

[Major]

"I drink a Boost for breakfast, and Ensure for dessert / Somebody ordered pancakes I just sip the sizzurp"

Maybe Kanye should put the sizzurp down, awful lyric.

You do realize that lyric was in reference to when he badly broke his jaw back in the day, it was wired shut and all he could do was drink liquids? Obviously a big deal for someone in his profession.

He probably doesn't. These kids nowadays. Great double meaning re dat lean aka purple aka sippin' on syrup

 

[RBM]

Homo

 

[shadyridr]

"I drink a Boost for breakfast, and Ensure for dessert / Somebody ordered pancakes I just sip the sizzurp"

Maybe Kanye should put the sizzurp down, awful lyric.

You do realize that lyric was in reference to when he badly broke his jaw back in the day, it was wired shut and all he could do was drink liquids? Obviously a big deal for someone in his profession.

didn't he rap that whole song with his jaw wired shut?

 

[Ilov80s]

"I drink a Boost for breakfast, and Ensure for dessert / Somebody ordered pancakes I just sip the sizzurp"

Maybe Kanye should put the sizzurp down, awful lyric.

You do realize that lyric was in reference to when he badly broke his jaw back in the day, it was wired shut and all he could do was drink liquids? Obviously a big deal for someone in his profession.

didn't he rap that whole song with his jaw wired shut?

That is the legend. It was his first major national hit.

 

[Ilov80s]

Lou Reed reviews Kanye West

Kanye West is a child of social networking and hip-hop. And he knows about all kinds of music and popular culture. The guy has a real wide palette to play with. That's all over Yeezus. There are moments of supreme beauty and greatness on this record, and then some of it is the same old ####. But the guy really, really, really is talented. He's really trying to raise the bar. No one's near doing what he's doing, it's not even on the same planet.

People say this album is minimal. And yeah, it's minimal. But the parts are maximal. Take "Blood on the Leaves." There's a lot going on there: horns, piano, bass, drums, electronic effects, all rhythmically matched — towards the end of the track, there's now twice as much sonic material. But Kanye stays unmoved while this mountain of sound grows around him. Such an enormous amount of work went into making this album. Each track is like making a movie.

Actually, the whole album is like a movie, or a novel — each track segues into the next. This is not individual tracks sitting on their own island, all alone.

Very often, he'll have this very monotonous section going and then, suddenly —"BAP! BAP! BAP! BAP!"— he disrupts the whole thing and we're on to something new that's absolutely incredible. That's architecture, that's structure — this guy is seriously smart. He keeps unbalancing you. He'll pile on all this sound and then suddenly pull it away, all the way to complete silence, and then there's a scream or a beautiful melody, right there in your face. That's what I call a sucker punch.

He seems to have insinuated in a recent New York Times interview that My Beautiful Dark, Twisted Fantasy was to make up for stupid #### he'd done. And now, with this album, it's "Now that you like me, I'm going to make you unlike me." It's a dare. It's braggadoccio. Axl Rose has done that too, lots of people have. "I Am a God" — I mean, with a song title like that, he's just begging people to attack him.

But why he starts the album off with that typical synth buzzsaw sound is beyond me, but what a sound it is, all gussied up and processed. I can't figure out why he would do that. It's like farting. It's another dare — I dare you to like this. Very perverse.

Still, I have never thought of music as a challenge — you always figure, the audience is at least as smart as you are. You do this because you like it, you think what you're making is beautiful. And if you think it's beautiful, maybe they'll think it's beautiful. When I did Metal Machine Music, New York Times critic John Rockwell said, "This is really challenging." I never thought of it like that. I thought of it like, "Wow, if you like guitars, this is pure guitar, from beginning to end, in all its variations. And you're not stuck to one beat." That's what I thought. Not, "I'm going to challenge you to listen to something I made." I don't think West means that for a second, either. You make stuff because it's what you do and you love it.

That explains the jump-cuts that are all over this record. Over and over, he sets you up so well — something's just got to happen — and he gives it to you, he hits you with these melodies. (He claims he doesn't have those melodic choruses anymore — that's not true. That melody the strings play at the end of "Guilt Trip," it's so beautiful, it makes me so emotional, it brings tears to my eyes.) But it's real fast cutting — boom, you're in it. Like at the end of "I Am a God," anybody else would have been out, but then pow, there's that coda with Justin Vernon, "Ain't no way I'm giving up." Un-#######-believable. It's fantastic. Or that very repetitive part in "Send It Up" that goes on five times as long as it should and then it turns into this amazing thing, a sample of Beenie Man's "Stop Live in a De Pass."

And it works. It works because it's beautiful — you either like it or you don't — there's no reason why it's beautiful. I don't know any musician who sits down and thinks about this. He feels it, and either it moves you too, or it doesn't, and that's that. You can analyze it all you want.

Many lyrics seem like the same old b.s. Maybe because he made up so much of it at the last minute. But it's the energy behind it, the aggression. Usually the Kanye lyrics I like are funny, and he's very funny here. Although he thinks that getting head from nuns and eating Asian ##### with sweet and sour sauce is funny, and it might be, to a 14-year-old — but it has nothing to do with me. Then there's the obligatory endless #######s and menages-a-trois.

But it's just ridiculous that people are getting upset about "Put my fist in her like a civil rights sign"? C'mon, he's just having fun. That's no more serious than if he said he's going to drop a bomb on the Vatican. How can you take that seriously?

And then he'll come out with an amazing line like "We could have been somebody." He's paraphrasing that famous Marlon Brando line from On the Waterfront, "I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am, let's face it. It was you, Charlie." Or he says "I'd rather be a #### than a swallower" — but then he does a whole chorus with Frank Ocean. What he says and what he does are often two different things.

"Hold My Liquor" is just heartbreaking, and particularly coming from where it's coming from — listen to that incredibly poignant hook from a tough guy like Chief Keef, wow. At first, West says "I can hold my liquor" and then he says "I can't hold my liquor." This is classic — classic manic-depressive, going back and forth. Or as the great Delmore Schwartz said, "Being a manic depressive is like having brown hair."

"I'm great, I'm terrible, I'm great, I'm terrible." That's all over this record. And then that synthesized guitar solo on the last minute and a half of that song, he just lets it run, and it's devastating, absolutely majestic.

There are more contradictions on "New Slaves," where he says "#### you and your Hamptons house." But God only knows how much he's spending wherever he is. He's trying to have it both ways — he's the upstart but he's got it all, so he frowns on it. Some people might say that makes him complicated, but it's not really that complicated. He kind of wants to retain his street cred even though he got so popular. And I think he thinks people are going to think he's become one of them — so he's going to very great lengths to claim that he's not. On "New Slaves," he's accusing everyone of being materialistic but you know, when guys do something like that, it's always like, "But we're the exception. It's all those other people, but weknow better."

"New Slaves" has that line "Y'all throwin' contracts at me/ You know that #####s can't read." Wow, wow,wow. That is an amazing thing to put in a lyric. That's a serious accusation in the middle of this rant at other people: an accusation of himself. As if he's some piece of #### from the street who doesn't know nothing. Yeah, right — your mom was a college English professor.

He starts off cool on that track but he winds up yelling at the top of his voice. I think he maybe had a couple of great lines already written for this song but then when he recorded the vocal, but then he just let loose with it and trusted his instincts. Because I can't imagine actually writing down most of these lines. But that's just me.

But musically, he nails it beyond belief on"New Slaves." It's mainly just voice and one or two synths, very sparse, and then it suddenly breaks out into this incredible melodic… God knows what. Frank Ocean sings this soaring part, then it segues into a moody sample of some Hungarian rock band from the '70s. It literally gives me goosebumps. It's like the visuals at the end of the new Superman movie — just overwhelmingly incredible. I played it over and over.

Some people ask why he's screaming on "I Am a God." It's not like a James Brown scream — it's a real scream of terror. It makes my hair stand on end. He knows they could turn on him in two seconds. By "they" I mean the public, the fickle audience. He could kill Taylor Swift and it would all be over.

The juxtaposition of vocal tones on "Blood on the Leaves" is incredible — that pitched-up sample of Nina Simone singing "Strange Fruit" doing a call-and-response with Kanye's very relaxed Autotuned voice. That is fascinating, aurally, nothing short of spectacular. And holy ####, it's so gorgeous rhythmically, where sometimes the vocal parts are matched and sometimes they clash. He's so sad in this song. He's surrounded by everyone except the one he wants — he had this love ripped away from him, before he even knew it. "I know there ain't nothing wrong with me… something strange is happening." Well, surprise, surprise — welcome to the real world, Kanye.

It's fascinating — it's very poignant, but there's nothing warm about it, sonically — it's really electronic, and after a while, his voice and the synth are virtually the same. But I don't think that's a statement about anything — it's just something he heard, and then he made it so you could hear it too.

At so many points in this album, the music breaks into this melody, and it's glorious — I mean, glorious. He has to know that — why else would you do that? He's not just banging his head against the wall, but he acts as though he is. He doesn't want to seem precious, he wants to keep his cred.

And sometimes it's like a synth orchestra. I've never heard anything like it — I've heard people try to do it but no way, it just comes out tacky. Kanye is there. It's like his video for "Runaway," with the ballet dancers — it was like, look out, this guy is making connections. You could bring one into the other — ballet into hip-hop — they're not actually contradictory, and he knew that, he could see it immediately. He obviously can hear that all styles are the same, somewhere deep in their heart, there's a connection. It's all the same ####, it's all music — that's what makes him great. If you like sound, listen to what he's giving you. Majestic and inspiring.

Kind of funny as I heard John Cale on NPR and he was gushing about "Drop It Like It's Hot".

That song knocks my socks off. Damn, this song has no genealogy. I don’t know where they came from with this. It’s so original. In my case, anyway I just get jealous. I just go, “####, why didn’t I think of that?”

http://www.mtvhive.com/2012/10/08/john-cale-interview/

 

[UniAlias]

Rogan and Franco reenactment - Bound 3

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Rogan and Franco reenactment - Bound 3

Rules.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Rogan and Franco reenactment - Bound 3

HFS

 

[Major]

Rogan and Franco reenactment - Bound 3

beat me to it....quality #nohomo

 

[mquinnjr]

Rogan and Franco reenactment - Bound 3

And, on the eighth day, God said, "Let Kanye melt-down on Twitter!"

Insta- :subscribe:

 

[Major]

Yeezus a genius....all you grown men throwing hissy fits about a rapper. Dude all up in your dome. You can't leave him alone. You addicted to dat bbc.

 

[T Bell]

Despise him on almost every level possible. First of all, good producer or not, his rap flat out sucks. Next, he's an arrogant ###. That whole Taylor Swift thing speaks to what an idiot he is. Finally, Kim Kardashian. If there is anyone I despise more than Kanye it's Kim. Wait, I despise her Mom more. Imagine that Thanksgiving dinner table. Cluster####.

"I'ma let you finish, turkey, but you ain't the biggest turkey at the table..."

 

[T Bell]

stop being racist! not a good look

How can we be racists if we like people like Jay Z and hate people like Kanye?

It's the No True Gangsta fallacy.

 

[mad sweeney]

Holy crap, that is the worst "song" I think I've ever heard. Unfathomably bad. I didn't think that poor young North's ability to be anything but a gigantic dbag could be any worse, but daaaammmmmnnnnn. The fact that he will make more from this song than I will in a year makes me lose hope in humanity. Anyone contributing a dollar towards that diarrhea fest of a song needs to be sterilized and deported.

Franco and Rogen made a spoof of it. Those guys suck too but they're geniuses in comparison.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Yeezus a genius....all you grown men throwing hissy fits about a rapper. Dude all up in your dome. You can't leave him alone. You addicted to dat bbc.

I like Kanye, but this is wretched shtick.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Why Everybody Has Missed The Point Of Kanye's Bound 2 Video

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Yeezus a genius....all you grown men throwing hissy fits about a rapper. Dude all up in your dome. You can't leave him alone. You addicted to dat bbc.

I like Kanye, but this is wretched shtick.

Major has a point though. This was Kanyes intent with this record.

 

[36th Chamber]

 

[offdee]

Why Everybody Has Missed The Point Of Kanye's Bound 2 Video

What I've been thinking all along...HAS to be something more to this video because Kanye just doesn't do things that are so obviously flawed. Whether its to make a point, get people/media talking about him, or just see if he can make something so bad be perceived as good....there is a point he's trying to make here.

 

[McGarnicle]

Good god, just actually watched the first minute of this dreck.

 

[McGarnicle]

Why Everybody Has Missed The Point Of Kanye's Bound 2 Video

What I've been thinking all along...HAS to be something more to this video because Kanye just doesn't do things that are so obviously flawed. Whether its to make a point, get people/media talking about him, or just see if he can make something so bad be perceived as good....there is a point he's trying to make here.

Then there's the old adage that there is no such thing as bad publicity. What would be the one sure fire way to force yourself into everyone's consciousness, even people like me who would never listen to his music? Be Rebecca Black for a minute. So hysterical to me, the twisted logic people are using here. He's daring us to like this crap! How challenging! How genius!

 

[36th Chamber]

Boris Johnson reads Kanye West's Bound 2 on Youtube

 

[Kenny Blankenship]

Bound 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRckgn36lzY#t=223

 

[EYLive]

Why Everybody Has Missed The Point Of Kanye's Bound 2 Video

What I've been thinking all along...HAS to be something more to this video because Kanye just doesn't do things that are so obviously flawed.

You mean like creating another kardashian and naming it North?

 

[TobiasFunke]

Why Everybody Has Missed The Point Of Kanye's Bound 2 Video

What I've been thinking all along...HAS to be something more to this video because Kanye just doesn't do things that are so obviously flawed. Whether its to make a point, get people/media talking about him, or just see if he can make something so bad be perceived as good....there is a point he's trying to make here.

Have people really missed the point, though? I have a hard time believing that there are really people who thought it was earnest attempt meant to be taken at face value. That's like reading Animal Farm and complaining about how it's silly and unrealistic because animals can't talk. You don't have to get the deeper meaning to realize that the artist is trying to convey one.

 

[36th Chamber]

I think you are missing the point, what's not to get? It's just a bad video. What in the world is he attempting to convey artistically? What is his point?

To suggest it's like reading Animal Farm and complaining because animals don't talk is a ludicrous comparison at best.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Kanye briefly explains Bound 2 video

Full interview here. Definitely worth a listen for those chiming in about what they think about Kanye, regardless how you feel about him.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I think you are missing the point, what's not to get? It's just a bad video. What in the world is he attempting to convey artistically? What is his point?

To suggest it's like reading Animal Farm and complaining because animals don't talk is a ludicrous comparison at best.

It's an intentionally "bad" video.

Obviously some people have grasped a point or deeper meaning. But I'm not saying it's ridiculous to not grasp them. I'm saying it's ridiculous to think that someone with West's resources and talent created a video that looks like the backdrop screen at a Korean karaoke joint because that's just the best he could do. He's obviously going for something else. You can "get it" or not, you can like it or not. Personally I don't particularly like it. But to think its meant to be taken at face value? Yeah, that's just as bad as reading Animal Farm and thinking it's just about weird talking animals.

 

[Scoresman]

rap was so much better when it was basically just dre and snoop dog rapping about cops and smoking weed.

 

[shadyridr]

I think you are missing the point, what's not to get? It's just a bad video. What in the world is he attempting to convey artistically? What is his point?

To suggest it's like reading Animal Farm and complaining because animals don't talk is a ludicrous comparison at best.

It's an intentionally "bad" video.

Obviously some people have grasped a point or deeper meaning. But I'm not saying it's ridiculous to not grasp them. I'm saying it's ridiculous to think that someone with West's resources and talent created a video that looks like the backdrop screen at a Korean karaoke joint because that's just the best he could do. He's obviously going for something else. You can "get it" or not, you can like it or not. Personally I don't particularly like it. But to think its meant to be taken at face value? Yeah, that's just as bad as reading Animal Farm and thinking it's just about weird talking animals.

Yeah I dunno about that. Why would he choose to embarrass the mother of his child in a "spoof" video?

 

[Fritz Funk]

"yeah uh-huh yeah"

of course he's awful

 

[McGarnicle]

I think you are missing the point, what's not to get? It's just a bad video. What in the world is he attempting to convey artistically? What is his point?

To suggest it's like reading Animal Farm and complaining because animals don't talk is a ludicrous comparison at best.

It's an intentionally "bad" video.

Obviously some people have grasped a point or deeper meaning. But I'm not saying it's ridiculous to not grasp them. I'm saying it's ridiculous to think that someone with West's resources and talent created a video that looks like the backdrop screen at a Korean karaoke joint because that's just the best he could do. He's obviously going for something else. You can "get it" or not, you can like it or not. Personally I don't particularly like it. But to think its meant to be taken at face value? Yeah, that's just as bad as reading Animal Farm and thinking it's just about weird talking animals.

Yeah I dunno about that. Why would he choose to embarrass the mother of his child in a "spoof" video?

You honestly think anything embarrasses that woman or that she has any shame left at all?

 

[Scoresman]

I think you are missing the point, what's not to get? It's just a bad video. What in the world is he attempting to convey artistically? What is his point?

To suggest it's like reading Animal Farm and complaining because animals don't talk is a ludicrous comparison at best.

It's an intentionally "bad" video.

Obviously some people have grasped a point or deeper meaning. But I'm not saying it's ridiculous to not grasp them. I'm saying it's ridiculous to think that someone with West's resources and talent created a video that looks like the backdrop screen at a Korean karaoke joint because that's just the best he could do. He's obviously going for something else. You can "get it" or not, you can like it or not. Personally I don't particularly like it. But to think its meant to be taken at face value? Yeah, that's just as bad as reading Animal Farm and thinking it's just about weird talking animals.

Yeah I dunno about that. Why would he choose to embarrass the mother of his child in a "spoof" video?

because he's kanye west. while some may see him as the next rudyard kipling, the rest of us see him simply as a dip####.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I think you are missing the point, what's not to get? It's just a bad video. What in the world is he attempting to convey artistically? What is his point?

To suggest it's like reading Animal Farm and complaining because animals don't talk is a ludicrous comparison at best.

It's an intentionally "bad" video.

Obviously some people have grasped a point or deeper meaning. But I'm not saying it's ridiculous to not grasp them. I'm saying it's ridiculous to think that someone with West's resources and talent created a video that looks like the backdrop screen at a Korean karaoke joint because that's just the best he could do. He's obviously going for something else. You can "get it" or not, you can like it or not. Personally I don't particularly like it. But to think its meant to be taken at face value? Yeah, that's just as bad as reading Animal Farm and thinking it's just about weird talking animals.

Yeah I dunno about that. Why would he choose to embarrass the mother of his child in a "spoof" video?

Not sure how it's embarrassing. Most people have seen her sex tape. Having fake sex without nudity in an intentionally subversive parody is probably the artsiest thing she's ever done.

 

[matuski]

"I drink a Boost for breakfast, and Ensure for dessert / Somebody ordered pancakes I just sip the sizzurp"

Maybe Kanye should put the sizzurp down, awful lyric.

You do realize that lyric was in reference to when he badly broke his jaw back in the day, it was wired shut and all he could do was drink liquids? Obviously a big deal for someone in his profession.

He probably doesn't. These kids nowadays. Great double meaning re dat lean aka purple aka sippin' on syrup

True genius.

How low can this bar go?

 

[PinkydaPimp]

I think you are missing the point, what's not to get? It's just a bad video. What in the world is he attempting to convey artistically? What is his point?

To suggest it's like reading Animal Farm and complaining because animals don't talk is a ludicrous comparison at best.

It's an intentionally "bad" video.

Obviously some people have grasped a point or deeper meaning. But I'm not saying it's ridiculous to not grasp them. I'm saying it's ridiculous to think that someone with West's resources and talent created a video that looks like the backdrop screen at a Korean karaoke joint because that's just the best he could do. He's obviously going for something else. You can "get it" or not, you can like it or not. Personally I don't particularly like it. But to think its meant to be taken at face value? Yeah, that's just as bad as reading Animal Farm and thinking it's just about weird talking animals.

Yeah I dunno about that. Why would he choose to embarrass the mother of his child in a "spoof" video?

Not sure how it's embarrassing. Most people have seen her sex tape. Having fake sex without nudity in an intentionally subversive parody is probably the artsiest thing she's ever done.

this. not to mention while preggers she said multiple times once she got her body back she wanted to pose nude or do something crazy. if im kanye id prefer this.

Anyway, his intent was to get the exact reaction that is in this thread.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I think you are missing the point, what's not to get? It's just a bad video. What in the world is he attempting to convey artistically? What is his point?

To suggest it's like reading Animal Farm and complaining because animals don't talk is a ludicrous comparison at best.

It's an intentionally "bad" video.

Obviously some people have grasped a point or deeper meaning. But I'm not saying it's ridiculous to not grasp them. I'm saying it's ridiculous to think that someone with West's resources and talent created a video that looks like the backdrop screen at a Korean karaoke joint because that's just the best he could do. He's obviously going for something else. You can "get it" or not, you can like it or not. Personally I don't particularly like it. But to think its meant to be taken at face value? Yeah, that's just as bad as reading Animal Farm and thinking it's just about weird talking animals.

Yeah I dunno about that. Why would he choose to embarrass the mother of his child in a "spoof" video?

Not sure how it's embarrassing. Most people have seen her sex tape. Having fake sex without nudity in an intentionally subversive parody is probably the artsiest thing she's ever done.

this. not to mention while preggers she said multiple times once she got her body back she wanted to pose nude or do something crazy. if im kanye id prefer this.

Anyway, his intent was to get the exact reaction that is in this thread.

Yup. Although he'd probably attribute the fact that so many people think the video was earnest to racism, whereas I think it's mostly just old man "rappers aren't real artists, get off my lawn" type thinking.

 

[36th Chamber]

I was a fiend, before I became a teen....

I for one am an old school hip hop fanatic.

Sure there are some "rappers aren't real artists, get off my lawn" in his thread but there are plenty of true hip hop fans out there just

There is no meaning, it's not artistic, bad video and good for Kanye for getting a reaction - pure genius. So I guess Bieber, Lady Gaga & say Miley Cyrus are geniuses as well? Because they evoke reactions like this thread for their antics?

 

[TobiasFunke]

I was a fiend, before I became a teen....

I for one am an old school hip hop fanatic.

Sure there are some "rappers aren't real artists, get off my lawn" in his thread but there are plenty of true hip hop fans out there just

There is no meaning, it's not artistic, bad video and good for Kanye for getting a reaction - pure genius. So I guess Bieber, Lady Gaga & say Miley Cyrus are geniuses as well? Because they evoke reactions like this thread for their antics?

Yeah, I gathered that from your alias.

You're conflating a couple different arguments. I didn't say he's a genius for this video- in fact I said I don't particularly like it. I think it's a bad song, plus to be honest I thought it was so obviously a parody that it was kind of heavy-handed. I do think he's a genius for making My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, but that's a whole different discussion.

What I said was that it's clearly not supposed to be taken at face value. I don't think Bieber, Lady Gaga or Miley Cyrus have anything to do with that, unless you're just throwing everything that's intentionally provocative under the same umbrella.

 

[Scoresman]

my favorite part of kanye's career was when Obama called him a jackass.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

I was a fiend, before I became a teen....

I for one am an old school hip hop fanatic.

Sure there are some "rappers aren't real artists, get off my lawn" in his thread but there are plenty of true hip hop fans out there just

There is no meaning, it's not artistic, bad video and good for Kanye for getting a reaction - pure genius. So I guess Bieber, Lady Gaga & say Miley Cyrus are geniuses as well? Because they evoke reactions like this thread for their antics?

Musically this album is pure genius. lyrically, its not my cup of tea, however, i havent had a chance to fully digest it yet. Though after these inverviews i look forward to revisiting the album.

but because you dont get the message its not genius? or its garbage? When rakim dropped that line plenty said he was just talking jibberish as well. Same with half of wu's lyrics. If you dont understand their 5 percenter talk some of that ish makes no sense at all.

 

[thatguythere]

18 years, 18 years
She got one of yo' kids, got you for 18 years
I know somebody payin' child support for one of his kids
His baby momma's car crib is bigger than his
You will see him on TV, any given Sunday
Win the Superbowl and drive off in a Hyundai
She was supposed to buy ya shorty Tyco with ya money
She went to the doctor got lipo with ya money
She walkin' around lookin' like Michael with ya money
Shoulda' got that insured, GEICO for ya moneeey(your money)
If you ain't no punk holla' we want pre-nup
WE WANT PRE-NUP!, yeah
It's something that you need to have
'Cause when she leave yo' ### she gon' leave with half
18 years, 18 years
And on her 18th birthday, he found out it wasn't his?

Pure Genius

 

[flapgreen]

He's an idiot

 

[Scoresman]

18 years, 18 years

She got one of yo' kids, got you for 18 years

I know somebody payin' child support for one of his kids

His baby momma's car crib is bigger than his

You will see him on TV, any given Sunday

Win the Superbowl and drive off in a Hyundai

She was supposed to buy ya shorty Tyco with ya money

She went to the doctor got lipo with ya money

She walkin' around lookin' like Michael with ya money

Shoulda' got that insured, GEICO for ya moneeey(your money)

If you ain't no punk holla' we want pre-nup

WE WANT PRE-NUP!, yeah

It's something that you need to have

'Cause when she leave yo' ### she gon' leave with half

18 years, 18 years

And on her 18th birthday, he found out it wasn't his?

Pure Genius

Everytime lyrics get posted in this thread like this, I cant tell if the post is sarcastic or if they really think that drivel is a work genius.

 

[Lutherman2112]

From the great mind of Kanye:

Speaking on "The Breakfast Club" morning radio program on New York Hip Hop and R&B station Power 105.1, West said: "Let me tell you something about George Bush and oil money, and Obama and no money. People want to say Obama can't make these moves, or he's not executing. That's because he ain't got those connections. Black people don't have the same level of connections as Jewish people. Black people don't have the same connections as oil people. You know we don't know nobody that got a nice house. You know we don't know nobody with paper like that, that we can go to when we're down."