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Keith Olbermann fired from Current TV. To be replaced (1 Viewer)

'Thunderlips said:
I never understood the Rights view and classification of him.....how could he have no viewers......yet still be the mouthpiece and one of the guiding voices of the Democratic Party?
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I don't know if I would be bragging about that. It's guys like Olbermann that make the partisan division worse, not better.
 
'jonessed said:
'Thunderlips said:
I never understood the Rights view and classification of him.....how could he have no viewers......yet still be the mouthpiece and one of the guiding voices of the Democratic Party?
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He had quite a few viewers at one point. He just fell off the ledge.
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More like he fell in the Current. Al Gore's network is not carried by that many cable providers (including mine). You can't retain viewers or build an audience if people don't have the option to watch the show.
 
'flapgreen said:
Spitzer's intelligence is so far over Olbermann's head that he doesn't even realize it. :thumbup:
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this is the story here. Spitzer was excellent on that doc about the Crash & has shown promise when he's been on talkinghead shows. he's got that look-around-the-corner way of assessment that i like on shows. looking fwd to it. still quite a comedown, though - if he hadnt been such a hodog, he'd probably be the fave to succeed Obama by now.
 
'rude classless thugs said:
'MaxThreshold said:
'Thunderlips said:
I never understood the Rights view and classification of him.....how could he have no viewers......yet still be the mouthpiece and one of the guiding voices of the Democratic Party?
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I don't know if I would be bragging about that. It's guys like Olbermann that make the partisan division worse, not better.
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And O'Reilly doesn't? :potkettle:
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Your "pot meet kettle" is an incorrect usage of the term for our discussion. I don't recall anyone ever saying O'Reilly was the "guiding voice" of the Republican Party. I know I've never said that.
 
'rude classless thugs said:
'MaxThreshold said:
'Thunderlips said:
I never understood the Rights view and classification of him.....how could he have no viewers......yet still be the mouthpiece and one of the guiding voices of the Democratic Party?
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I don't know if I would be bragging about that. It's guys like Olbermann that make the partisan division worse, not better.
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And O'Reilly doesn't? :potkettle:
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No, he's not nearly the partisan that you think he is. He's not anywhere on the level of Hannity or Limbaugh.This week alone - he has been extremely fair in his coverage of the Zimmerman/Martin issue (he's had two lead lawyers on for Martin's family) not going around flying off the handle like some networks have, he disagrees with Republicans about voting down subsidies for oil companies, and like most Americans think's Obamacare is unconstitutional, but has had a wide range of guests (including D.Kucinich yesterday) to talk about this issue.

Big difference from several of the right wing/left wing shows flying off the handle on various issues.

 
'MaxThreshold said:
'rude classless thugs said:
'MaxThreshold said:
'Thunderlips said:
I never understood the Rights view and classification of him.....how could he have no viewers......yet still be the mouthpiece and one of the guiding voices of the Democratic Party?
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I don't know if I would be bragging about that. It's guys like Olbermann that make the partisan division worse, not better.
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And O'Reilly doesn't? :potkettle:
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Your "pot meet kettle" is an incorrect usage of the term for our discussion. I don't recall anyone ever saying O'Reilly was the "guiding voice" of the Republican Party. I know I've never said that.
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I was talking about your claim that Olbermann makes the partisan divide worse in view of your defense of O'Reilly, not suggesting that you thought that O'Reilly was the guiding voice of the Republican party. That is why I bolded It's guys like Olbermann that make the partisan division worse. And it doesn't make any sense following after what I stated, "And O'Reilly doesn't?" Fill in the rest of the sentence "And O'Reilly doesn't make the partisan division worse, not better," or "And O'Reilly doesn't one of the guiding voices of the Democratic Party."

 
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'cubd8 said:
'rude classless thugs said:
'MaxThreshold said:
'Thunderlips said:
I never understood the Rights view and classification of him.....how could he have no viewers......yet still be the mouthpiece and one of the guiding voices of the Democratic Party?
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I don't know if I would be bragging about that. It's guys like Olbermann that make the partisan division worse, not better.
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And O'Reilly doesn't? :potkettle:
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No, he's not nearly the partisan that you think he is. He's not anywhere on the level of Hannity or Limbaugh.This week alone - he has been extremely fair in his coverage of the Zimmerman/Martin issue (he's had two lead lawyers on for Martin's family) not going around flying off the handle like some networks have, he disagrees with Republicans about voting down subsidies for oil companies, and like most Americans think's Obamacare is unconstitutional, but has had a wide range of guests (including D.Kucinich yesterday) to talk about this issue.

Big difference from several of the right wing/left wing shows flying off the handle on various issues.
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:goodposting: Spot on here.

 
Details About Olbermann’s Firing Emerge: Complained Car Drivers ‘Smelled’ and ‘Talked to Him’

Alleged details surrounding Keith Olbermann's Friday dismissal from Current TV are beginning to depict the man as quite a prima donna.

According to Mediaite, a source at Current TV said the former Countdown host went through eight different car services while working at the network, complaining that the drivers "smelled" and "talked to him."

Furthermore, though Olbermann's $250,000 studio was built to his exact specifications, he allegedly refused to use the set when there were lighting problems back in December. Not only that, but he refused to let guest hosts use the elaborate studio.

Current TV is also claiming that Olbermann refused to publicize the network and the show when he wasn't hosting his program (and he took about half of January and February off). They say he even barred his staff from sending out related Twitter updates, and prevented guest hosts from promoting the show. (Jealous that they would get better ratings, perhaps?)

Network co-founders Al Gore and Joel Hyatt explained in a letter to viewers: “We created Current to give voice to those Americans who refuse to rely on corporate-controlled media and are seeking an authentic progressive outlet. We are more committed to those goals today than ever before...Current was also founded on the values of respect, openness, collegiality, and loyalty to our viewers. Unfortunately these values are no longer reflected in our relationship with Keith Olbermann and we have ended it.”

Keith Olbermann responded: “The claims against me implied in Current’s statement are untrue.” He added that the network didn’t keep its “promises and obligations and investing in a quality news program.”

Perhaps "quality" for Olbermann means eight different car services, but Mediaite notes that the network is "no worse off without him, and a good deal more flush."
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http://news.yahoo.com/details-olbermann-firing-emerge-complained-car-drivers-smelled-040944200.html
 
He was doing the show in the dark for about 3 months. and plugged the show on twitter and was on letterman and fergueson a couple times. Current the bigger weasel in my mind so far.

 
It's been 16 long years since Keith Olbermann left ESPN's SportsCenter to make his name as a political commentator at MSNBC and, most recently, Current TV. But as Variety first reported this evening, Olbermann will be returning to the network he helped put on the map as an anchor alongside Dan Patrick on SportsCenter.

Variety says ESPN is likely making the official announcement tomorrow. Olbermann will host his own hourlong show on ESPN2, which will air later this year. The move has been 14 months in the making; as recently as March, it seemed like the 54-year-old anchor was trying, but failing, to get back into ESPN after his long, tumultuous relationship with ESPN. (He had a brief stint alongside Patrick on ESPN radio's "The Big Show with Dan and Keith" until Patrick left in 2007.) The New York Times, which also reported on the story, has more:

Within ESPN, there was concern about asking Olbermann back because he left the network under emotionally charged circumstances and because it was feared by some that Olbermann had become too politicized as the host of his interim MSNBC program “Countdown,” which aired from 2003 through January 2011.

On his new show, Olbermann will be free to discuss matters other than sports, including pop culture and current events, but not politics, the two-year pact specifies.

While some ESPN insiders reportedly voiced the opinion that Olbermann was part of the network’s past, not its future, his star quality is almost unmatched in the sports television arena; he seems to draw a crowd. Rumors had been bubbling for weeks that ESPN would put aside the difficulties of the past and invite Olbermann back.

So Olbermann will be back on ESPN. But of course, there's a catch. His new show won't be shot in ESPN's main campus in Bristol, Connecticut. Instead, ESPN's keeping him in New York. He'll air from the ABC News studio in Times Square.
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The problem for ESPN and Olbermann is that we got to actually find out just how much of an arrogant jerk he is. And it wasn't like just conservatives grew to hate him for his attitude, he lost lucrative jobs at MSNBC and Current because of it.

I think that it will be extremely difficult for most people to put that perception aside and just go back to Sportscenter Olbermann.

 
pittstownkiller said:
'Mr. Know-It-All said:
The funny thing about Olbermann is that he possesses one of the worst cases of self grandeur that I have ever witnessed and I think it really isn't an act. He really believes he is smarter, wittier, funnier etc than any other mortal man. His politics don't even matter - he is all about Keith and how dare anyone not realize his greatness. So classic his threats to sue. How dare they question his greatness. He needs to go away and stay there.
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It was kinda funny when he insisted that he graduated from Cornell, holding up his diploma and stating he went to an ivy League school, when he went to the State run agricultural extension, that accepts just about everyone.Link: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/03/fellow_cornellians_anne_coulte.html
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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Forgot about this.

 
GroveDiesel said:
The problem for ESPN and Olbermann is that we got to actually find out just how much of an arrogant jerk he is. And it wasn't like just conservatives grew to hate him for his attitude, he lost lucrative jobs at MSNBC and Current because of it.

I think that it will be extremely difficult for most people to put that perception aside and just go back to Sportscenter Olbermann.
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If I understand, he'll have a stand alone show, not as host on SC. There are tons of jerks still at the Worldwide Leader, this is nothing new.

 
mquinnjr said:
pittstownkiller said:
'Mr. Know-It-All said:
The funny thing about Olbermann is that he possesses one of the worst cases of self grandeur that I have ever witnessed and I think it really isn't an act. He really believes he is smarter, wittier, funnier etc than any other mortal man. His politics don't even matter - he is all about Keith and how dare anyone not realize his greatness. So classic his threats to sue. How dare they question his greatness. He needs to go away and stay there.
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It was kinda funny when he insisted that he graduated from Cornell, holding up his diploma and stating he went to an ivy League school, when he went to the State run agricultural extension, that accepts just about everyone.Link: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/03/fellow_cornellians_anne_coulte.html
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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Forgot about this.
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Olbermann is actually way more right than Coulter on this one. The University as a whole is part of the Ivy League, including all seven individual undergraduate colleges on the Ithaca campus. Three of those seven just happen to be contract colleges. They are not run by the state, but do receive state funding.

The College of Agriculture and Life Sciences isn't an agricultural extension (though it does help run the Cornell Cooperative Extension for New York). It's the second largest school in the university, and the one to go to if you want to major in business, food science, plant sciences, and many other programs. With a lot of the programs, including the Biology major, you take probably 75% of the same classes (especially the core ones) alongside students from the Arts school. The only real difference is that if you are from NYS (and it used to be even if you weren't) you pay significantly less in tuition, which makes it a bit of a no-brainer for many students.

The acceptance rate is more like 19% compared to 15% for Arts.

 
Tackling Dummies said:
GroveDiesel said:
The problem for ESPN and Olbermann is that we got to actually find out just how much of an arrogant jerk he is. And it wasn't like just conservatives grew to hate him for his attitude, he lost lucrative jobs at MSNBC and Current because of it.

I think that it will be extremely difficult for most people to put that perception aside and just go back to Sportscenter Olbermann.
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If I understand, he'll have a stand alone show, not as host on SC. There are tons of jerks still at the Worldwide Leader, this is nothing new.
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I would rather listen to Stephen A. Smith yell for 20 minutes or LeBatard's papi babble for 30 than listen to Olbermann talk for five minutes.

 
Mr. Know-It-All said:
The funny thing about Olbermann is that he possesses one of the worst cases of self grandeur that I have ever witnessed and I think it really isn't an act. He really believes he is smarter, wittier, funnier etc than any other mortal man. His politics don't even matter - he is all about Keith and how dare anyone not realize his greatness. So classic his threats to sue. How dare they question his greatness. He needs to go away and stay there.
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^^This^^ When he was on ESPN i always got the feeling he thought that he was just as important as the games he was covering

 
MaxThreshold said:
'Zeff said:
The blowhard liberal mouthpiece was never going to work in the long run. It was a good idea from MSNBC, because as a marketer, you test everything, and there was evidence that blowardery and partisan hackery brought in numbers.

But in the long run, liberals don't want and don't need to be told what to think like conservatives do. It's the very nature of the two positions. Liberalism must be accepting, and tolerant of differing ideas, and flexible, or it isn't liberal in the first place. Conservatism must be on-message, consistent, old-fashioned, and incapable of change, or it isn't conservative. Only the latter works well with jabbering, monomaniacal mouthpieces who never stray off message.

It was a good run, but it was never going to hang around. MSNBC was able to cut bait, and they were probably glad for it. His new gig was just a latecomer to the party realizing late that the product was unviable. KO's a dinosaur.
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Have you been to Wisconsin lately? It's been on display for over a year now on how the left is so accepting, flexible and tolerant.Anyways, I don't want to get into further details of how much you clearly don't know anything about conservatism other than what you read at HuffPo, so suffice to say that the bolded part above really got me laughing. I forwarded it on to my conservative friends it was so hilarious. You're going to be a superstar among them now.

I can't wait for your next golden nugget of hard analysis.
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Zeff's post was spot on.

Conservatism is non-accepting of gays, minorities, anyone of a different faith.....; Liberalism has always been more open minded to their views.

Note I am not saying Democrat or Republican.

 
Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
Zeff's post was spot on.

Conservatism is non-accepting of gays, minorities, anyone of a different faith.....; Liberalism has always been more open minded to their views.

Note I am not saying Democrat or Republican.
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I think it used to be that way, but it isn't anymore. Hardcore liberals are just as close-minded as hardcore conservatives now.

 
GroveDiesel said:
The problem for ESPN and Olbermann is that we got to actually find out just how much of an arrogant jerk he is. And it wasn't like just conservatives grew to hate him for his attitude, he lost lucrative jobs at MSNBC and Current because of it.

I think that it will be extremely difficult for most people to put that perception aside and just go back to Sportscenter Olbermann.
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He has a penchant now for not even showing up to work. Over/Under on how many nights a week he actually does his own show? I think 3 a week. The more interesting thing will be who will fill in fo him? David Schuster?

 
Raider Nation said:
bagger said:
Premier said:
Limp Ditka said:
I have no idea what you guys are watching, because from what Ive seen, his show is awful.
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His highlight package is the best on any network. Really, it's not even close.
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He's absolutely hilarious calling highlights. Makes you remember why he was a star on SportsCenter.

I couldn't care less about his political views.
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He was a star on SportsCenter because he shared the stage. 30 straight minutes of his crap is about 20 too many

The one man sports show died with George Michael.

 
Raider Nation said:
Limp Ditka said:
30 straight minutes of his crap is about 20 too many
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I can only imagine how outraged you'll be when you find out the show is an hour long.
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oof.

Didn't even look at how long it was. I gave it an honest try. Like you said, he was a star on SportsCenter back in the day and I will readily admit that I long for the days of him and Patrick on the desk.

I never would have made it 60 minutes. He oozes arrogance and tries too hard to make jokes.

I can't even imagine how awful this is going to be when he's trying to fill up time shticking up basketball reels for 45 minutes in the middle of Feb.

 
I hate media types like Keith who use sports in order to parlay something bigger. Now he ran out of gas on the politics he is back hammering away at sports, he's a fraud, he almost killed Sunday Night Football.

 
watched his ESPN2 show a few nights ago for a few minutes, was awful. He was showing highlights and trying to come up with clever one liners for the action, but it was just awful to listen to since he was trying so hard to be funny.

 
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