Kelvin Benjamin - WR - FSU [UPDATE PAGE 1, 7/3] (2 Viewers)

[dblock05]

so he had a good game tonight?

I had my draft last week and got him in the 12th round.

 

[pantherclub]

so he had a good game tonight?

I had my draft last week and got him in the 12th round.

in a redraft ppr he is going 9th round, after tonight I wouldnt have a problem drafting him in the 7th. Dude was targeted a ton and caught a lot of balls in traffic. He looked like a bigger version of brandon marshall

 

[BassNBrew]

Well I said I'd be happy with a Benjamin pick. I would have been happier with Lee. I just didn't think he'd be there. With that said I think Benjamin is going to be a good fit for the Panthers. I think he likes to catch the kind of balls Cam tends to throw. He seems to be good with downfield blocking. He ran more routes than people make out that he did. And although there were drops it seemed to be when the catch wasn't as significant. I mean everyone knew who was getting the ball at the end of the championship game and he still got it. We need that. He still has to prove it at this level but if Ricky gave him the OK then I am in.

Still feel that way?

 

[BassNBrew]

Could be the biggest FF bust of the draft. I think Lee would've been a more sensible pick.

They went for the home run when a solid double was sitting there.

Ya, from what I've seen so far Gettleman seems to be in over his head as GM. I sense he's one of those types who is overconfident that he is the smartest guy in the room when he in fact is not. They needed the skills and experience of Marqise Lee, not a reach in Benjamin.

Bruce ---> <--- Gettleman

 

[BassNBrew]

Personally I think the ff hype has gotten our of control. I'm seeing high as 7th round in ppr re-draft. Liked it better when I was getting him in rd 20 of 16 team leagues. He won't be on anymore of my teams this year.

 

[DAG]

Count me as one of the people who was disappointed in the Panthers for drafting Benjamin. I'm wrong all time but in this case I'll be very happy to be wrong if he can keep this up. I don't want to overreact to preseason but many of the things I was worried about--suddenness, consistent hands--seem to actually be strengths (at least as far as early signs go).

 

[Smack Tripper]

He went 6.4 In a 16 teamer redraft I did on THURSDAY.

Wish I had him based on this thread but pick 84 was high. Might have taken him at 7.5 though

 

[Quez]

The only thing that will hold back Kelvin Benjamin is Cam Newton... Too soon?

 

[Insein]

The only thing that will hold back Kelvin Benjamin is Cam Newton.

If he keeps making catches, Cam's first second and third reads will be KB. Cam seems like a guy that gets locked in on a favorite target.

 

[Banger]

The only thing that will hold back Kelvin Benjamin is Cam Newton.

If he keeps making catches, Cam's first second and third reads will be KB. Cam seems like a guy that gets locked in on a favorite target.

Steve smith did alright there.

 

[Sweet Love]

Obviously he is shooting up the boards, and soon (if not already) he will peak. So if you own him, what do you think you could get for him?

 

[BigTex]

Can't me as a non-believer but he's starting to get my attention.

ETA: I wasn't a non-believer, more of a fence rider who needed to see more.

 

[Henry Ford]

Where's he going in rookie/free agent drafts?

 

[False Start]

Offensive R.O.T.Y.

BIG MIKE WILLIAMS

but slower, stiffer and older

Well, that's settled.

Wow looking back at some past posts from some. People were on both ends of the spectrum, even in consecutive posts.

Looks like some Benjamin supporters were getting slammed and mocked through out this thread by some.

Like I said, I'm glad those who were not supporters are jumping on board.

 

[Childress]

The only thing that will hold back Kelvin Benjamin is Cam Newton.

If he keeps making catches, Cam's first second and third reads will be KB. Cam seems like a guy that gets locked in on a favorite target.

If a QB is going to lock onto someone, make it the 6-5 240lb guy. That grab he made up high on Revis when Cam fired it in as fast as he could was impressive. His first catch as well was impressive.

 

[False Start]

Packets got a much better player in round 2 with Adams.

I did notice Adams drop a few last night while Benjamin looks to be a vacuum.

 

[False Start]

As a Panthers fan, I'm hoping in dead wrong. I'm not sold on Benjamin, but he is huge and Proehl really, really wanted him from all accounts.

Could pan out, but I'm probably going to let someone else find out unless he's dirt cheap. The bigger concerns for me are low football IQ/intelligence and his former coaches saying he was a slow learner too. I realize he doesn't need to know a full route tree to run down and catch it, but... Gotta know enough to get on the field.

I'd have sure as hell felt better about it if they'd have drafted Allen Robinson in the 2nd to go with him, though I agree Ealy was a great value.

Still feel the same with Robinsons hammy and Benjamin playing like he is?

 

[massraider]

Packets got a much better player in round 2 with Adams.

I did notice Adams drop a few last night while Benjamin looks to be a vacuum.

Interesting that the last two threads I click, you are laughing at people for being concerned about preseason performances for Bell and Blount, and in here you are calling out people for obviously being wrong about Benjamin and Adams, based on preseason performance.

Nice work. You make the Shark Pool a better place.

 

[False Start]

Packets got a much better player in round 2 with Adams.

I did notice Adams drop a few last night while Benjamin looks to be a vacuum.

Interesting that the last two threads I click, you are laughing at people for being concerned about preseason performances for Bell and Blount, and in here you are calling out people for obviously being wrong about Benjamin and Adams, based on preseason performance.

Nice work. You make the Shark Pool a better place.

Sorry you were not on board the Benjamin train, clearly I was months ago unlike many and did not need preseason to think he is good. Maybe read more of the thread you will see that. Clearly you make this site much better as well, hence your awesome comment. I was trying to make this site better by telling everyone about Benjamin, maybe you should listened to me and my annoying posts.

Also, from what I said in the Bell/Blount thread (if you would have read it) was I heard that was the game plan for the entire game to rotate series, so in light of that info, yes, any panic is ridiculous.

If people would listen to others instead of getting upset because they dont like how they present their opinion, maybe those people could make this site a better place is. Problem is people only think nice people can be correct. That is a mistake. Dont get mad about it, just listen to those wiser.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

 

[Fireinside]

I love to say that I drafted Benjamin. Had a pick in the first round (in fact two)... dropped few spots back and then got him. Could have gotten many "better" receivers at the time, but

had my eye on Freeman and Benjamin (because of the opportunity and talent). Playing dynasty with 32 teams and we needed help now, rather than later.

But to tell you the truth, I had my doubts after our fantasy-draft as I kept on reading many blogs and webpages full of crap about how slow

he is, his hands suck and he wont be ready for NFL, so he will be a project. Although my first impression was that he will get ton of targets in Carolina and he's like Bears

receiver I don't think I have to mention, the constant nagging and down playing of his skills was starting to get to me. I kept reading positive news from Carolina,

but still most of the people were saying that he's a complete bust and it got into me. Never have I been more positively surprised of the pre-season performance of a player

I thought is playing like he should. This is just what I expected and still I'm like I cant believe what I'm seeing

 

[massraider]

It's always nice to see guys that are popular whipping boys do well.

I think it's really interesting that Benjamin joined a team that has Cam Newton on it. Because the overwhelming groupthink regarding Benjamin, and the rush to call him a bust, reminds me a lot of when Cam was drafted.

Gotta root for a guy that people were overwhelmingly against from day one.

 

[EBF]

I watched most of his targets last night. What surprised me was his quick burst off the line. When you combine that with his size and strength, he was a handful on short routes. He still doesn't look overly athletic and didn't make any explosive plays, so that's something I'd watch as the season goes on. I could see him playing a Colston type of role in this offense as a reliable possession target/safety valve. I guess that's why they opted for him instead of smaller, more athletic receivers who were also on the board when they picked. With the lack of other viable targets on the roster, he could catch 50+ balls this season. We also know that he has some red zone + jump ball skills. Whether or not he's ever going to become a top #1 WR is still very much in doubt though. I don't think he's quite as athletic as other big-bodied guys like Fitzgerald and VJax. With what he has shown so far, he looks like he could be a lesser Brandon Marshall though.

 

[Nero]

I was a non believer, but was impressed by his performance. He did get behind a corner on one play but was over thrown. If the game against New England is any indication, he will lead them in targets. Cam even targeted him a few times with Revis in coverage. I've moved him into WR3 territory and think 7th round would be fair.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Not sure if this thread made me reach, but I drafted him at 7.7 in a 12 team draft (79)

 

[lod01]

Not sure if this thread made me reach, but I drafted him at 7.7 in a 12 team draft (79)

6.9 in 14 team redraft. If he can get the ball to Olsen, he surely can get the ball into the same zipcode as Benjamin.

 

[BassNBrew]

His huge catch radius is perfect for Cam's huge throwing radius.

 

[Quez]

How often was Revis on him? Any double teams?

 

[Eviloutsider]

Got him in round 11 last night (12 team redraft) and feel good about it. He definitely fell a bunch but he is my number three WR and that scares me a a lot.

 

[NCCommish]

Well I said I'd be happy with a Benjamin pick. I would have been happier with Lee. I just didn't think he'd be there. With that said I think Benjamin is going to be a good fit for the Panthers. I think he likes to catch the kind of balls Cam tends to throw. He seems to be good with downfield blocking. He ran more routes than people make out that he did. And although there were drops it seemed to be when the catch wasn't as significant. I mean everyone knew who was getting the ball at the end of the championship game and he still got it. We need that. He still has to prove it at this level but if Ricky gave him the OK then I am in.

Still feel that way?

Well as I read that I was mostly on the bandwagon. Once I started seeing what he was doing on practice I jumped on fully. I got a good seat,

 

[BassNBrew]

Well I said I'd be happy with a Benjamin pick. I would have been happier with Lee. I just didn't think he'd be there. With that said I think Benjamin is going to be a good fit for the Panthers. I think he likes to catch the kind of balls Cam tends to throw. He seems to be good with downfield blocking. He ran more routes than people make out that he did. And although there were drops it seemed to be when the catch wasn't as significant. I mean everyone knew who was getting the ball at the end of the championship game and he still got it. We need that. He still has to prove it at this level but if Ricky gave him the OK then I am in.

Still feel that way?

Well as I read that I was mostly on the bandwagon. Once I started seeing what he was doing on practice I jumped on fully. I got a good seat,

I know. I was right with you on your thoughts (Lee), just didn't express them so they could be bumped.

 

[NCCommish]

Well I said I'd be happy with a Benjamin pick. I would have been happier with Lee. I just didn't think he'd be there. With that said I think Benjamin is going to be a good fit for the Panthers. I think he likes to catch the kind of balls Cam tends to throw. He seems to be good with downfield blocking. He ran more routes than people make out that he did. And although there were drops it seemed to be when the catch wasn't as significant. I mean everyone knew who was getting the ball at the end of the championship game and he still got it. We need that. He still has to prove it at this level but if Ricky gave him the OK then I am in.

Still feel that way?

Well as I read that I was mostly on the bandwagon. Once I started seeing what he was doing on practice I jumped on fully. I got a good seat,

I know. I was right with you on your thoughts (Lee), just didn't express them so they could be bumped.

Well to be fair to us pre-draft it just seemed Lee was a little more ready. But so far every negative thing that was said about Benjamin has been complete smoke. Doesn't work hard? All he did was stay in Charlotte and work every minute he could. Iffy hands? All he has done is caught pretty much everything anywhere near him. Slow? See him get behind defenses regularly. Not smart enough? Seems to be right where he is supposed to be on plays. I am now completely and utterly thrilled with the pick. I expect him to put up very good rookie numbers. Maybe even be in the running for OROY.

 

[BigTex]

i wish i could see more of him before my dynasty draft this Saturday night. With picks 1.2 & 1.7 I must choose wisely.

 

[OC Zed]

Where does he currently rank in terms of other rookie WRs in dynasty drafts? I can see the argument for anywhere from #3 (behind Watkins and Evans) to #6 right now.

 

[False Start]

i wish i could see more of him before my dynasty draft this Saturday night. With picks 1.2 & 1.7 I must choose wisely.

To be honest with what we see and know about ho teams plan to use rookies, the upside of Benjamin is gigantic, I am not sure he would last to 1.07, I do think he will be better than Evans for what its worth.

 

[BigTex]

i wish i could see more of him before my dynasty draft this Saturday night. With picks 1.2 & 1.7 I must choose wisely.

To be honest with what we see and know about ho teams plan to use rookies, the upside of Benjamin is gigantic, I am not sure he would last to 1.07, I do think he will be better than Evans for what its worth.

He does seem to be better than Evans at this time. Would you you take him over Cooks too?

 

[BigTex]

i wish i could see more of him before my dynasty draft this Saturday night. With picks 1.2 & 1.7 I must choose wisely.

To be honest with what we see and know about ho teams plan to use rookies, the upside of Benjamin is gigantic, I am not sure he would last to 1.07, I do think he will be better than Evans for what its worth.

He does seem to be better than Evans at this time. Would you you take him over Cooks too? I plan to grab either Hyde or Hill with the 2.3 pick i got in a trade as I'm hurting for running backs.

 

[zamboni]

Where does he currently rank in terms of other rookie WRs in dynasty drafts? I can see the argument for anywhere from #3 (behind Watkins and Evans) to #6 right now.

I'd take Benjamin over Evans if nothing else than situation. KB is slated to be the guy in the passing game, while Evans still has VJ next to him in a passing offense that may not provide a ton of targets.

 

[Quez]

I like Cooks & Benjamin over Evans.

 

[False Start]

i wish i could see more of him before my dynasty draft this Saturday night. With picks 1.2 & 1.7 I must choose wisely.

To be honest with what we see and know about ho teams plan to use rookies, the upside of Benjamin is gigantic, I am not sure he would last to 1.07, I do think he will be better than Evans for what its worth.

He does seem to be better than Evans at this time. Would you you take him over Cooks too?

I think he and Cooks are based off preference as both have huge upside. I like Benjamin as the best WR in this class in all formats and by just a bit over Cooks in PPR (not a fan of Watkins at all), but in TD leagues its Benjamin for me and its not close. I drafted him in a TD heavy league in the 8th round and got real excited about it.

 

[TheCommish]

He basically went undrafted in my auction league. I was saving a few bucks to get him with my last roster spot, but it turns out I could have landed him for a buck if I had to. Not sure why, but I'll take it.

 

[Quez]

In redraft ppr I would go Benjamin, Cooks, Watkins, Evans.

 

[stbugs]

In redraft ppr I would go Benjamin, Cooks, Watkins, Evans.

I would go Benjamin, Evans, Cooks and Watkins. I like Benjamin and Evans a lot, both have shown a lot in the pre-season games. Watkins has talent, loved him in college, but based on his pre-season games he has an awful QB, which tied to being a rookie could be a bad sign. Cooks is in the right place, but Colston looks fine to me, so he and Graham may get a bulk of the TDs and I think that is a big part of why I like Benjamin and Evans this year in re-draft. Cooks is just slightly above Watkins because I do think Watkins will get targets, but he doesn't have Brees.

 

[Insein]

In redraft ppr I would go Benjamin, Cooks, Watkins, Evans.

I would go Benjamin, Evans, Cooks and Watkins. I like Benjamin and Evans a lot, both have shown a lot in the pre-season games. Watkins has talent, loved him in college, but based on his pre-season games he has an awful QB, which tied to being a rookie could be a bad sign. Cooks is in the right place, but Colston looks fine to me, so he and Graham may get a bulk of the TDs and I think that is a big part of why I like Benjamin and Evans this year in re-draft. Cooks is just slightly above Watkins because I do think Watkins will get targets, but he doesn't have Brees.

I think for early returns, Benjamin and Cooks lead the way. For the career, I think Watkins and Evans have more upside. Can they get the right QB and situation to go with that though.

 

[shadyridr]

I think I may be too high on this guy. Got him top 24 ahead of DJax

 

[Quez]

I really like Benjamin's early schedule. The shark move may be to move him when his stock is high after he dominates Chicago. Weeks 6-9 are tougher defenses and then their bye is week 12. Not a great playoff schedule either TB, NO, Cle.

 

[cvnpoka]

I watched most of his targets last night. What surprised me was his quick burst off the line. When you combine that with his size and strength, he was a handful on short routes. He still doesn't look overly athletic and didn't make any explosive plays, so that's something I'd watch as the season goes on. I could see him playing a Colston type of role in this offense as a reliable possession target/safety valve. I guess that's why they opted for him instead of smaller, more athletic receivers who were also on the board when they picked. With the lack of other viable targets on the roster, he could catch 50+ balls this season. We also know that he has some red zone + jump ball skills. Whether or not he's ever going to become a top #1 WR is still very much in doubt though. I don't think he's quite as athletic as other big-bodied guys like Fitzgerald and VJax. With what he has shown so far, he looks like he could be a lesser Brandon Marshall though.

lol 50+ balls. try 70+. dudes all kinds a legit on a team lacking targets with a good qb.

 

[Ilov80s]

I watched most of his targets last night. What surprised me was his quick burst off the line. When you combine that with his size and strength, he was a handful on short routes. He still doesn't look overly athletic and didn't make any explosive plays, so that's something I'd watch as the season goes on. I could see him playing a Colston type of role in this offense as a reliable possession target/safety valve. I guess that's why they opted for him instead of smaller, more athletic receivers who were also on the board when they picked. With the lack of other viable targets on the roster, he could catch 50+ balls this season. We also know that he has some red zone + jump ball skills. Whether or not he's ever going to become a top #1 WR is still very much in doubt though. I don't think he's quite as athletic as other big-bodied guys like Fitzgerald and VJax. With what he has shown so far, he looks like he could be a lesser Brandon Marshall though.

lol 50+ balls. try 70+. dudes all kinds a legit on a team lacking targets with a good qb.

I thought I clicked on the Allen Hurns thread, clicked on this by mistake and thought "oh dear god people are losing their minds." I love Benjamin and feel comfortable starting him as my WR3 from day one.

 

[cvnpoka]

i mean, admittedly, 70+ is overkill. but someone's gotta catch balls on that team. newton is gonna throw it at least 450 and complete 60%. thats 270 catches. they got olsen, cotchery, rbs, and avant. theyve hardly thrown to rbs in the past, why should that change now? rbs caught 69, 65, 62. that leaves like 210 catches to the 3 wr and olsen. seems like hes got some legit upside. ofc, now hes goin in the 8th instead of the 11th and its a lot harder to justify.

 

[cvnpoka]

i wish i could see more of him before my dynasty draft this Saturday night. With picks 1.2 & 1.7 I must choose wisely.

To be honest with what we see and know about ho teams plan to use rookies, the upside of Benjamin is gigantic, I am not sure he would last to 1.07, I do think he will be better than Evans for what its worth.

He does seem to be better than Evans at this time. Would you you take him over Cooks too? I plan to grab either Hyde or Hill with the 2.3 pick i got in a trade as I'm hurting for running backs.

wait, hyde lasts until the 2nd in a rookie draft? i dont dynasty but that seems absurd. i mean, i understand theres a lot of good rooks but hyde has been killin it and gore aint gonna be around much longer. is sankey going ahead of him? thats the only rb that seem remotely plausible.