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Kelvin Benjamin - WR - FSU [UPDATE PAGE 1, 7/3] (1 Viewer)

Eminence said:
Well, its that time of year again and I have began to start looking at Wide Receivers and as of right now this guy is my #1 Ranked Wide Receiver. He's got the size (6 ft 5, 245 lbs) with athleticism to boot. Great hands.

With a great combine I don't see a way he falls out of the Top 15 this year. He's a freak talent that sits squarely on top of my WR Rankings.

1.) Kelvin Benjamin

2.) Sammy Watkins

3.) Jarvis Landry

4.) Mike Evans

5.) Marquise Lee

This guy is a monster.

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More props imo.

Only downfall with this list is that you didn't have Cooks #2 on it.

 
False Start said:
Awfully quiet from the haters who were awfully loud for a while. I'm sure they will come out after his first bad game and are secretly awaiting failure in the future.

Because anyone who could not see his obvious talent does not deserve to have an opinion on this game. His talent was so obvious, his situation was so great and his size is astounding, yet those haters try to come up with reasons to down this guy.

If you could not see Benjamin coming, maybe this is not the game for you.
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:rolleyes:

 
gchip said:
Digitallinh said:
Hey gchip, would you be able to get the 22 yarder where he caught the ball around 3 defenders?
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I wasn't the one who made the gif and I haven't this anywhere.
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for anyone with nfl rewind it's at 20:15. I'd make a gif but I have no idea how... to... :shrug:

 
DaveL said:
gchip said:
Digitallinh said:
Hey gchip, would you be able to get the 22 yarder where he caught the ball around 3 defenders?
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I wasn't the one who made the gif and I haven't this anywhere.
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for anyone with nfl rewind it's at 20:15. I'd make a gif but I have no idea how... to... :shrug:
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That catch to me really cemented why I like him so much, he just snatched that high ball out of the air and it vanished into his arms. Reminds me of Brandon MArshall.

 
Digitallinh said:
DaveL said:
gchip said:
Digitallinh said:
Hey gchip, would you be able to get the 22 yarder where he caught the ball around 3 defenders?
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I wasn't the one who made the gif and I haven't this anywhere.
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for anyone with nfl rewind it's at 20:15. I'd make a gif but I have no idea how... to... :shrug:
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That catch to me really cemented why I like him so much, he just snatched that high ball out of the air and it vanished into his arms. Reminds me of Brandon MArshall.
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I'd say he reminds me of CJ, but CJ couldn't do in traffic tonite what Benjamin does.

 
I think he reminds me of no one. He's just that good, he will make a name of himself rather than being named the new "someone" in crappy fantasy football forums.

Just glad I got him, so I can just sit back and enjoy :popcorn:

 
This weeks game is going to be interesting. The Lions bring their own big guy to town. Will be interesting to compare them on the field and how they are used.

 
Thank you, Benjamin for bailing me out of starting my stud RB combo of Charles and Martin this week. Pretty sure he's going to be locked into one of my starting 3WR spots all year and Fitz/Sanders will be fighting over the flex.

Ps. I love you too Matt Bryant.

 
I feel like Benjamin isn't getting enough love in the rankings this week. I thought Detroit's secondary sucks? I don't see how they are going to be able to stop him & Olsen. One of the guys is going to do well.

 
Quez said:
I feel like Benjamin isn't getting enough love in the rankings this week. I thought Detroit's secondary sucks? I don't see how they are going to be able to stop him & Olsen. One of the guys is going to do well.
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its does, the Detroit secondary stinks and it has a bunch of injuries on top, just lost Bill Bentley for the season.

 
bostonfred said:
False Start said:
Awfully quiet from the haters who were awfully loud for a while. I'm sure they will come out after his first bad game and are secretly awaiting failure in the future.

Because anyone who could not see his obvious talent does not deserve to have an opinion on this game. His talent was so obvious, his situation was so great and his size is astounding, yet those haters try to come up with reasons to down this guy.

If you could not see Benjamin coming, maybe this is not the game for you.
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Why are you like this so often?
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I know saying he is to slow and only a possession wr... I got laughed at for taking him over Allen Robinson???? Doesn't look to funny now. For the sake of embarrassment and calling shots I will not mention this persons name but I had many a heated arguments about Kelvin and even some high dollar betting saying he wouldn't catch 60-70 balls for 1000 plus. I think it's super funny now because Benjamin is uncoverable and haters want to say he is to slow constantly even though he is a little faster then Boldin was, and bigger so what does fourty times mean in that case??? absolutely nothing.... They learned their lesson on that one.

 
(HULK) said:
Well, its that time of year again and I have began to start looking at Wide Receivers and as of right now this guy is my #1 Ranked Wide Receiver. He's got the size (6 ft 5, 245 lbs) with athleticism to boot. Great hands.

With a great combine I don't see a way he falls out of the Top 15 this year. He's a freak talent that sits squarely on top of my WR Rankings.

1.) Kelvin Benjamin

2.) Sammy Watkins

3.) Jarvis Landry

4.) Mike Evans

5.) Marquise Lee

This guy is a monster.

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agreed, Cooks may be 1.... Cooks, benjamin, watkins,lee,evans looks like top 5 if I had to pick today,

 
IheartGuinness said:
False Start said:
Awfully quiet from the haters who were awfully loud for a while. I'm sure they will come out after his first bad game and are secretly awaiting failure in the future.

Because anyone who could not see his obvious talent does not deserve to have an opinion on this game. His talent was so obvious, his situation was so great and his size is astounding, yet those haters try to come up with reasons to down this guy.

If you could not see Benjamin coming, maybe this is not the game for you.
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:rolleyes:
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He's basically saying you should go get a new hobby like golf, tennis, parsailing or kayaking LOL.............. :shrug:

 
slay and mathis are decent cbs.. Plus detroit has good pass rush. I don't think he lights it up... 6-80-1 td and Calvin 8-140-2

 
T with T said:
bostonfred said:
False Start said:
Awfully quiet from the haters who were awfully loud for a while. I'm sure they will come out after his first bad game and are secretly awaiting failure in the future.

Because anyone who could not see his obvious talent does not deserve to have an opinion on this game. His talent was so obvious, his situation was so great and his size is astounding, yet those haters try to come up with reasons to down this guy.

If you could not see Benjamin coming, maybe this is not the game for you.
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Why are you like this so often?
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I know saying he is to slow and only a possession wr... I got laughed at for taking him over Allen Robinson???? Doesn't look to funny now. For the sake of embarrassment and calling shots I will not mention this persons name but I had many a heated arguments about Kelvin and even some high dollar betting saying he wouldn't catch 60-70 balls for 1000 plus. I think it's super funny now because Benjamin is uncoverable and haters want to say he is to slow constantly even though he is a little faster then Boldin was, and bigger so what does fourty times mean in that case??? absolutely nothing.... They learned their lesson on that one.
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I took Robinson over him - it was a coin flip and came down to Robinson being 2.5 years younger and concern about Benjamin's hands.

As far as Benjamin being slow, that's not accurate - he's slow for a WR but he's fast for a TE and has the measureables of an elite TE.

It's not that he's uncoverable but he's able to make plays when he is covered - like a TE.

 
Not to get into a debate but what really separates Ben from Cooks is his size. I watched both games, i saw balls thrown to Cooks get batted down by the defender and one would have been an TD. Ben is so much Taller than the defenders that all Cam has to do is toss it up which is something you can't do with Cooks. Cooks is fast but you have some defenders who are fast too. You can even double team Cooks if necessary but can you do the same for Ben?

At the end of the day both player are good in their own way and if you are the own of either you will be happy for a long time.

Tex

 
I don't see KB having alot of yards but I do think he catches his second TD of the season. Lions do have above average height corners so I don't think he'll physically manhandle them like he did Jenkins.

I like that the Panthers seem to move him all over the field. Saw him line up in the slot quite a bit and a mismatch can be exploited with rookie nickel corner Lawson.

 
RBM said:
Hope you chest puffers don't jinx this kid.
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Exactly. I unfortunately own him in none of my leagues. My fault for waiting one pick too long in my non-Charlotte league (he went real fast in my Charlotte leagues), so I had to take Mike Evans, who I like as well. I can't recall who I picked, but I honestly thought I would get him with my next pick and missed by one pick.

Anyway, he has been phenomenal so far for a rookie, but let's not jinx him here as a Panther fan.

 
TheFanatic said:
BassNBrew said:
I'd say he reminds me of CJ, but CJ couldn't do in traffic tonite what Benjamin does.
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massraider said:
Some Marshall, some Boldin. But taller and heavier. Unreal.
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Guy had one good game and we're mentioning him with these three? We might want to ease off the gas just a little on this train. He looked really good, but the comparisons are a little over the top this early.
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I think a lot of the reason is because unlike guys like Lee and Latimer and other later picks, Benjamin was roundly picked as one of the potential busts of the draft.

 
chinawildman said:
I don't see KB having alot of yards but I do think he catches his second TD of the season. Lions do have above average height corners so I don't think he'll physically manhandle them like he did Jenkins.

I like that the Panthers seem to move him all over the field. Saw him line up in the slot quite a bit and a mismatch can be exploited with rookie nickel corner Lawson.
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He could easily have alot of yards. I think we can be sure of a couple things: 1) He is their best WR, by far; 2) His physical talent and size means he is going to be battling for a ton of throws, often winning; 3) Based on training camp and preseason, Cam likes him and is going to feed him the ball. All of those things = huge opportunity every week.

I'm really surprised that as a rookie, Benjamin's floor seems to be so high every week.

 
The Commish said:
Quez said:
Did anyone watch this game? How did he look? I heard he had some drops.
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He had a couple mind numbingly bad drops, then he pulls that fantastic one hander out. His rookie side showed a bit yesterday with the drops though.
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He actually made two long catches although the one hander was all that. But I would say the drops weren't all him. A couple were but not all. I don't think it's a coincidence he did so well with DA last week. That's who has been throwing to him the most in the preseason. I think he will get better with Cam as Cam gets reps in. I liked his comments after the game on the drops. No deflection a simple "I have to work harder to fix those issues". No more down than he was up about his TD last week. That seems like a real good thing in a long season. And it should be noted he was wide open for some stuff that Cam threw elsewhere. One of them looked like a sure touchdown if he was thrown to. Cam will get better and as he does Benji will do better.

 
He has a long way to go if he wants to be a prima donna WR in this league. First rule, nothing is ever your fault. Blame the QB, the play call, sun in your eyes, wrong gloves, tweaked hammy, etc.

 
To his credit, the team won by a large margin. Had this been a tight game or one where the Panthers were down, I would assume he would've gotten a couple more catches. Every time I saw them on the RZ channel, it seemed like they were running.

 
I was at the game and thought Benjamin looked solid. Detroit regularly put a safety over the top on him, but he didn't have much difficulty getting open. He had one drop that was horrible, one that he probably should have come down with, and one where Cam Newton threw the ball so hard, a lot of seasoned vets would have struggled with it.

Honestly, I think that's the cause of a number of issues with the drops this weekend. Derek Anderson is more of a touch passer, while Cam basically throws fastballs. He's a guy that takes a little time to learn from, especially as a rookie who hasn't spent a lot of time with Cam.

With all of that said, I noticed some things. After every drop, Kelvin came to the huddle and took responsibility for it. Two out of the three times, Cam immediately went back to him on the next play. One of those ended up being the spectacular catch.

A little off subject, but the Panthers redzone offense is insane. Cotchery, Avant, and Olsen all have fantastic hands run precise routes, Benjamin is massive and can go up and get the ball. On top of that Newton has the option to run, along with Stewart and Tolbert being excellent goal line runners. Benjamin will benefit from his size in the redzone, but with all of the options in Carolina, he may not get as many looks in that area as you'd assume in most situations.

 
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solorca said:
I was at the game and thought Benjamin looked solid. Detroit regularly put a safety over the top on him, but he didn't have much difficulty getting open. He had one drop that was horrible, one that he probably should have come down with, and one where Cam Newton threw the ball so hard, a lot of seasoned vets would have struggled with it.

Honestly, I think that's the cause of a number of issues with the drops this weekend. Derek Anderson is more of a touch passer, while Cam basically throws fastballs. He's a guy that takes a little time to learn from, especially as a rookie who hasn't spent a lot of time with Cam.

With all of that said, I noticed some things. After every drop, Kelvin came to the huddle and took responsibility for it. Two out of the three times, Cam immediately went back to him on the next play. One of those ended up being the spectacular catch.

A little off subject, but the Panthers redzone offense is insane. Cotchery, Avant, and Olsen all have fantastic hands run precise routes, Benjamin is massive and can go up and get the ball. On top of that Newton has the option to run, along with Stewart and Tolbert being excellent goal line runners. Benjamin will benefit from his size in the redzone, but with all of the options in Carolina, he may not get as many looks in that area as you'd assume in most situations.
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Really good stuff here. Thanks for insight. Good luck to your Panthers..nice start to season and Sunday night spotlight this week. :thumbup:

Saw he didn't practice yesterday with a "knee". Anything? Please say no.

 
I thought his "touchdown" catch was great as well, too bad couldn't get both feet in bounds but that ball was too high anyway. The one hander was incredible, especially considering the one he dropped before was right in his chest.

At some point this season this kid is going to have an absolute MONSTER game.

 
cstu said:
Billy Ball Thorton said:
lod01 said:
cstu said:
Could pan out, but I'm probably going to let someone else find out unless he's dirt cheap.
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I'd rather draft the same upside with Martavis Bryant in the late 2nd/early 3rd round.
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Yep. Bryant will outperform Benjamin over the course of their careers.
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Odds of that are very very slim. Not close talent wise and look no further than the guys getting paid to figure this out. I will go with NFL scouting dept over message board lod01
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Benjamin has almost 30 lbs. on Bryant (some would to his detriment) but Bryant outperformed him on every metric at the combine by a good margin.

Despite the weight advantage, Benjamin did 13 bench reps to Bryant's 16.
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Guys are looking like you know football.

 
See guys, THIS is how you win leagues. I picked him up for marbles when everyone else was avoiding him. He was drafted as bench depth for me and is producing well above.

 
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