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Kelvin Benjamin - WR - FSU [UPDATE PAGE 1, 7/3] (2 Viewers)

I will give you your props because they are due EM. I admit I don't watch a lot of college football, except for my Spartans. So I didn't know a lot about this guy, or a lot of the incoming rookies. I usually do a lot of studying on this site in June, and July before our rookie draft which usually happens the week after the 4th to avoid holiday conflicts. Anyways before this turns into a cool story bro post, I drafted Benjamin at 2.03 and it feels like a steal

 
Are we worried that hes only caught TD's with the backup QB?

Regardless, I will be starting him instead of putting him in my bench.

 
Are we worried that hes only caught TD's with the backup QB?

Regardless, I will be starting him instead of putting him in my bench.
well I think Derrick Anderson throws a more catchable ball.

However the targets are there even with Cam in the game. Wouldnt worry about who the QB is

 
Are we worried that hes only caught TD's with the backup QB?

Regardless, I will be starting him instead of putting him in my bench.
well I think Derrick Anderson throws a more catchable ball.

However the targets are there even with Cam in the game. Wouldnt worry about who the QB is
I'm kind of starting to feel like this as well... That awkward attempt to catch Cam's throw to him in the endzone in the 1st half made me think KB for some reason has not adjusted to Cam's throws because that looked like an easy TD.

 
Are we worried that hes only caught TD's with the backup QB?

Regardless, I will be starting him instead of putting him in my bench.
well I think Derrick Anderson throws a more catchable ball.

However the targets are there even with Cam in the game. Wouldnt worry about who the QB is
I'm kind of starting to feel like this as well... That awkward attempt to catch Cam's throw to him in the endzone in the 1st half made me think KB for some reason has not adjusted to Cam's throws because that looked like an easy TD.
That is because Cam throws a rocket every time. 2 yards....65mph rocket, 10 yards....65 mph rocket....45 yards....65mph rocket. He's got a helluva arm but limited finesse.

 
See guys, THIS is how you win leagues. I picked him up for marbles when everyone else was avoiding him. He was drafted as bench depth for me and is producing well above.
I got him and Spiller for Josh Gordon and Latimer when people were saying Gordon could be back week 2.

 
Could pan out, but I'm probably going to let someone else find out unless he's dirt cheap.
I'd rather draft the same upside with Martavis Bryant in the late 2nd/early 3rd round.
Yep. Bryant will outperform Benjamin over the course of their careers.
Odds of that are very very slim. Not close talent wise and look no further than the guys getting paid to figure this out. I will go with NFL scouting dept over message board lod01
Benjamin has almost 30 lbs. on Bryant (some would to his detriment) but Bryant outperformed him on every metric at the combine by a good margin.

Despite the weight advantage, Benjamin did 13 bench reps to Bryant's 16.
Guys are looking like you know football.
I stand by my assessment. When Benjamin was drafted he was claiming the Panthers were happy with him on 240 but it's clear he's nowhere near that now. His questionable hands seem to have disappeared.

As for Bryant, the jury is still out. He's almost a year younger than Benjamin and has further to go with his route running. Wheaton had 6 catches his rookie year and has 11 so far, rookie WR's normally don't have a big impact with the Steelers.

 
Could pan out, but I'm probably going to let someone else find out unless he's dirt cheap.
I'd rather draft the same upside with Martavis Bryant in the late 2nd/early 3rd round.
Yep. Bryant will outperform Benjamin over the course of their careers.
Odds of that are very very slim. Not close talent wise and look no further than the guys getting paid to figure this out. I will go with NFL scouting dept over message board lod01
Benjamin has almost 30 lbs. on Bryant (some would to his detriment) but Bryant outperformed him on every metric at the combine by a good margin.

Despite the weight advantage, Benjamin did 13 bench reps to Bryant's 16.
Guys are looking like you know football.
I stand by my assessment. When Benjamin was drafted he was claiming the Panthers were happy with him on 240 but it's clear he's nowhere near that now. His questionable hands seem to have disappeared.

As for Bryant, the jury is still out. He's almost a year younger than Benjamin and has further to go with his route running. Wheaton had 6 catches his rookie year and has 11 so far, rookie WR's normally don't have a big impact with the Steelers.
The Panthers still list him at 240 and in fact the general thought was he was closer to 245 now. He just doesn't have a bit of fat on him.

 
Could pan out, but I'm probably going to let someone else find out unless he's dirt cheap.
I'd rather draft the same upside with Martavis Bryant in the late 2nd/early 3rd round.
Yep. Bryant will outperform Benjamin over the course of their careers.
Odds of that are very very slim. Not close talent wise and look no further than the guys getting paid to figure this out. I will go with NFL scouting dept over message board lod01
Benjamin has almost 30 lbs. on Bryant (some would to his detriment) but Bryant outperformed him on every metric at the combine by a good margin.

Despite the weight advantage, Benjamin did 13 bench reps to Bryant's 16.
Guys are looking like you know football.
I stand by my assessment. When Benjamin was drafted he was claiming the Panthers were happy with him on 240 but it's clear he's nowhere near that now. His questionable hands seem to have disappeared.

As for Bryant, the jury is still out. He's almost a year younger than Benjamin and has further to go with his route running. Wheaton had 6 catches his rookie year and has 11 so far, rookie WR's normally don't have a big impact with the Steelers.
No offense, but you need to just accept defeat on this one. Benjamin is the real deal and Bryant shouldn't even show up to the same autograph session with him.

 
Could pan out, but I'm probably going to let someone else find out unless he's dirt cheap.
I'd rather draft the same upside with Martavis Bryant in the late 2nd/early 3rd round.
Yep. Bryant will outperform Benjamin over the course of their careers.
Odds of that are very very slim. Not close talent wise and look no further than the guys getting paid to figure this out. I will go with NFL scouting dept over message board lod01
Benjamin has almost 30 lbs. on Bryant (some would to his detriment) but Bryant outperformed him on every metric at the combine by a good margin.

Despite the weight advantage, Benjamin did 13 bench reps to Bryant's 16.
Guys are looking like you know football.
I stand by my assessment. When Benjamin was drafted he was claiming the Panthers were happy with him on 240 but it's clear he's nowhere near that now. His questionable hands seem to have disappeared.

As for Bryant, the jury is still out. He's almost a year younger than Benjamin and has further to go with his route running. Wheaton had 6 catches his rookie year and has 11 so far, rookie WR's normally don't have a big impact with the Steelers.
No offense, but you need to just accept defeat on this one. Benjamin is the real deal and Bryant shouldn't even show up to the same autograph session with him.
 
Just traded Harvin for Benjamin in a keeper league. I've been trying to pry him away from that owner since I missed him in the draft. This kid is going to have a monster year!

I can't believe I missed on him over the off season

 
Em and I have been on the K Benji train since day 1. I watched every college play the guy made and I don't see how people weren't more enamored with this guy. I really think people get too wrapped up in 40 times & measureables.

 
Just traded Harvin for Benjamin in a keeper league. I've been trying to pry him away from that owner since I missed him in the draft. This kid is going to have a monster year!

I can't believe I missed on him over the off season
Anderson, Newton or J. Russell, I do not care who his QB is. This guy looks for real and makes any QB better. Seems strange to say from a rookie. On another thought what rookie is doing better then Benjamin?

From my reading of this thread it looks like a lot of Benjamin hate with a few people who were trying to tell others about him and instead of taking what "people on a message board knew," they disregarded it and just regurgitated everything the media was saying about him as it was a guarantee. Those are the type of folks that I wonder why they even visit a board like this if people who were trying to pass on info to them and they just avoided it or try to disregard it. I see that a lot here in a lot of threads. Someone called this guy the Rookie of the year back in May that is BOLD.

I missed him in my dyno by one pick and in a few of my redrafts. I do have to say for as many people down on him, In every league I was in there were one or two guys all over him. :( I'm upset I was a supporter of his and only managed to get him in one of six leagues.

 
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Could pan out, but I'm probably going to let someone else find out unless he's dirt cheap.
I'd rather draft the same upside with Martavis Bryant in the late 2nd/early 3rd round.
Yep. Bryant will outperform Benjamin over the course of their careers.
Odds of that are very very slim. Not close talent wise and look no further than the guys getting paid to figure this out. I will go with NFL scouting dept over message board lod01
Benjamin has almost 30 lbs. on Bryant (some would to his detriment) but Bryant outperformed him on every metric at the combine by a good margin.

Despite the weight advantage, Benjamin did 13 bench reps to Bryant's 16.
Guys are looking like you know football.
I stand by my assessment. When Benjamin was drafted he was claiming the Panthers were happy with him on 240 but it's clear he's nowhere near that now. His questionable hands seem to have disappeared.

As for Bryant, the jury is still out. He's almost a year younger than Benjamin and has further to go with his route running. Wheaton had 6 catches his rookie year and has 11 so far, rookie WR's normally don't have a big impact with the Steelers.
Same here.

Yep, claim victory now guys after 3 games. Smart move. We'll see in 5-8 years.

 
this thread convinced me to target this guy in a lot of drafts and it worked out very well.

still, he has missed a few catchable balls. he had a few egregious drops in week 2. against the steelers he missed a laser from newton that was a tough catch but him on both hands and the db had fallen over. also, it seemed he mistimed a deep ball that coulda been a td. then he went out and made that amazing td catch and he made it look easy. i wonder if it is indeed and issue with getting more familiar with the type of ball newton throws.

i dont think it matters much tho. i think he still finishes top 10 this season.

 
Just traded Harvin for Benjamin in a keeper league. I've been trying to pry him away from that owner since I missed him in the draft. This kid is going to have a monster year!

I can't believe I missed on him over the off season
Anderson, Newton or J. Russell, I do not care who his QB is. This guy looks for real and makes any QB better. Seems strange to say from a rookie. On another thought what rookie is doing better then Benjamin?

From my reading of this thread it looks like a lot of Benjamin hate with a few people who were trying to tell others about him and instead of taking what "people on a message board knew," they disregarded it and just regurgitated everything the media was saying about him as it was a guarantee. Those are the type of folks that I wonder why they even visit a board like this if people who were trying to pass on info to them and they just avoided it or try to disregard it. I see that a lot here in a lot of threads. Someone called this guy the Rookie of the year back in May that is BOLD.

I missed him in my dyno by one pick and in a few of my redrafts. I do have to say for as many people down on him, In every league I was in there were one or two guys all over him. :( I'm upset I was a supporter of his and only managed to get him in one of six leagues.
:goodposting:

I "reached" (not really) for him with first pick in 7th round in a 12 team and got some confused looks and "who is that"s.

Leaguemates: :bye:

 
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I traded Bradshaw for him before week 3....was kicking myself at first when Bradshaw had another TD, but after watching his game, I'm hoping my WR squad of D. Thomas, AJ Green, and Benjamin can lead me to a victory. My RB's are all average, but Benjamin as a WR3 is pretty sweet.

 
By the time late August drafts rolled around, I started grabbing Benjamin in the 6th round. Paid 30 dollars for him in an auction draft lol, I think I'm barely breaking even now.

 
By the time redrafts came around his stock was pretty high.
Indeed, reached for him at the tail end of the 4th in a 16 teamer over the likes of Golden Tate, Decker, Wayne, Wallace and don't regret a minute of it. His preseason game against NE going up against Revis was all I needed to see.

 
Could pan out, but I'm probably going to let someone else find out unless he's dirt cheap.
I'd rather draft the same upside with Martavis Bryant in the late 2nd/early 3rd round.
Yep. Bryant will outperform Benjamin over the course of their careers.
Odds of that are very very slim. Not close talent wise and look no further than the guys getting paid to figure this out. I will go with NFL scouting dept over message board lod01
Benjamin has almost 30 lbs. on Bryant (some would to his detriment) but Bryant outperformed him on every metric at the combine by a good margin.

Despite the weight advantage, Benjamin did 13 bench reps to Bryant's 16.
Guys are looking like you know football.
I stand by my assessment. When Benjamin was drafted he was claiming the Panthers were happy with him on 240 but it's clear he's nowhere near that now. His questionable hands seem to have disappeared.

As for Bryant, the jury is still out. He's almost a year younger than Benjamin and has further to go with his route running. Wheaton had 6 catches his rookie year and has 11 so far, rookie WR's normally don't have a big impact with the Steelers.
Same here.

Yep, claim victory now guys after 3 games. Smart move. We'll see in 5-8 years.
:lmao:

Yeah lets wait 5-8 years. That's funny.

You guys clearly lack talent evaluation skills. Kelvin will most likely be a 1st-2nd round pick in startups next season.

You swung and missed BADLY on KB and your answer is wait 5-8 years.

 
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Could pan out, but I'm probably going to let someone else find out unless he's dirt cheap.
I'd rather draft the same upside with Martavis Bryant in the late 2nd/early 3rd round.
Yep. Bryant will outperform Benjamin over the course of their careers.
Odds of that are very very slim. Not close talent wise and look no further than the guys getting paid to figure this out. I will go with NFL scouting dept over message board lod01
Benjamin has almost 30 lbs. on Bryant (some would to his detriment) but Bryant outperformed him on every metric at the combine by a good margin.

Despite the weight advantage, Benjamin did 13 bench reps to Bryant's 16.
Guys are looking like you know football.
I stand by my assessment. When Benjamin was drafted he was claiming the Panthers were happy with him on 240 but it's clear he's nowhere near that now. His questionable hands seem to have disappeared.

As for Bryant, the jury is still out. He's almost a year younger than Benjamin and has further to go with his route running. Wheaton had 6 catches his rookie year and has 11 so far, rookie WR's normally don't have a big impact with the Steelers.
Same here.

Yep, claim victory now guys after 3 games. Smart move. We'll see in 5-8 years.
I watched the film. I came to a different assessment. I don't have to wait years to know you were wrong. You were wrong. Now he is still a rook and he is going to do rookie things, make rookie mistakes. He is on pace for roughly 70, 800 and 8 TDs. If he does that it will be a strong rookie season and certainly not the bust of the draft. And personally I think as Cam gets settled his numbers go up from his current pace. He is the number 1 WR and there is no doubt of that.

 
Em and I have been on the K Benji train since day 1. I watched every college play the guy made and I don't see how people weren't more enamored with this guy. I really think people get too wrapped up in 40 times & measureables.
I only needed to see one college play and that was at the end of the last game last season. That's exactly the type of play that works in the NFL. Clutch catch on the biggest stage stays with you for life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcTcFzjEppY

 
Could pan out, but I'm probably going to let someone else find out unless he's dirt cheap.
I'd rather draft the same upside with Martavis Bryant in the late 2nd/early 3rd round.
Yep. Bryant will outperform Benjamin over the course of their careers.
Odds of that are very very slim. Not close talent wise and look no further than the guys getting paid to figure this out. I will go with NFL scouting dept over message board lod01
Benjamin has almost 30 lbs. on Bryant (some would to his detriment) but Bryant outperformed him on every metric at the combine by a good margin.

Despite the weight advantage, Benjamin did 13 bench reps to Bryant's 16.
Guys are looking like you know football.
I stand by my assessment. When Benjamin was drafted he was claiming the Panthers were happy with him on 240 but it's clear he's nowhere near that now. His questionable hands seem to have disappeared.

As for Bryant, the jury is still out. He's almost a year younger than Benjamin and has further to go with his route running. Wheaton had 6 catches his rookie year and has 11 so far, rookie WR's normally don't have a big impact with the Steelers.
Same here.Yep, claim victory now guys after 3 games. Smart move. We'll see in 5-8 years.
I watched the film. I came to a different assessment. I don't have to wait years to know you were wrong. You were wrong. Now he is still a rook and he is going to do rookie things, make rookie mistakes. He is on pace for roughly 70, 800 and 8 TDs. If he does that it will be a strong rookie season and certainly not the bust of the draft. And personally I think as Cam gets settled his numbers go up from his current pace. He is the number 1 WR and there is no doubt of that.
He is the #6 WR in non PPR and is on pace for 106 catches 1350 yards and 11 TDs.
 
I lucked out and picked him up first week. Just had a feeling. I remember in '98 we had a newcomer in our league and laughed at him when he took Randy Moss in the first round. Now I'm not going to claim that Benjamin has the same numbers, but somehow I've got that same kind of vibe from this guy. he's exciting to watch, and that's worth the investment on its own.

 
Could pan out, but I'm probably going to let someone else find out unless he's dirt cheap.
I'd rather draft the same upside with Martavis Bryant in the late 2nd/early 3rd round.
Yep. Bryant will outperform Benjamin over the course of their careers.
Odds of that are very very slim. Not close talent wise and look no further than the guys getting paid to figure this out. I will go with NFL scouting dept over message board lod01
Benjamin has almost 30 lbs. on Bryant (some would to his detriment) but Bryant outperformed him on every metric at the combine by a good margin.

Despite the weight advantage, Benjamin did 13 bench reps to Bryant's 16.
Guys are looking like you know football.
I stand by my assessment. When Benjamin was drafted he was claiming the Panthers were happy with him on 240 but it's clear he's nowhere near that now. His questionable hands seem to have disappeared.

As for Bryant, the jury is still out. He's almost a year younger than Benjamin and has further to go with his route running. Wheaton had 6 catches his rookie year and has 11 so far, rookie WR's normally don't have a big impact with the Steelers.
Same here.

Yep, claim victory now guys after 3 games. Smart move. We'll see in 5-8 years.
I watched the film. I came to a different assessment. I don't have to wait years to know you were wrong. You were wrong. Now he is still a rook and he is going to do rookie things, make rookie mistakes. He is on pace for roughly 70, 800 and 8 TDs. If he does that it will be a strong rookie season and certainly not the bust of the draft. And personally I think as Cam gets settled his numbers go up from his current pace. He is the number 1 WR and there is no doubt of that.
Might wanna re-check the math. He's on pace for a huge season.

 
Here are the numbers so far for Olsen and Benjamin:

Olsen - 19/224/2 (26 targets)

Benjamin - 16/253/2 (27 targets)

Panthers QB's have only thrown the ball 109 times and 53 of them have gone to Olsen and Benjamin. Only 33 targets have gone to other non-RB receivers.

 
Here are the numbers so far for Olsen and Benjamin:

Olsen - 19/224/2 (26 targets)

Benjamin - 16/253/2 (27 targets)

Panthers QB's have only thrown the ball 109 times and 53 of them have gone to Olsen and Benjamin. Only 33 targets have gone to other non-RB receivers.
What are some realistic projections for Benjamin this year?

 
Granted I didn't need a WR, but looking back I can't believe this guy fell to 19th overall this summer in my dynasty league rookie draft. The fantastic thing about him is that he seems to have the gift of durability. Guy will be a top 5 WR for most of his career.

 
Granted I didn't need a WR, but looking back I can't believe this guy fell to 19th overall this summer in my dynasty league rookie draft. The fantastic thing about him is that he seems to have the gift of durability. Guy will be a top 5 WR for most of his career.
Dude....C'MON! He's played 3 games and you're putting a huge jinx on him.

He gets hurt this week it's on your ###.

 
Here are the numbers so far for Olsen and Benjamin:

Olsen - 19/224/2 (26 targets)

Benjamin - 16/253/2 (27 targets)

Panthers QB's have only thrown the ball 109 times and 53 of them have gone to Olsen and Benjamin. Only 33 targets have gone to other non-RB receivers.
What are some realistic projections for Benjamin this year?
I'm not a owner so I think I'm as unbiased as I can be and I don't expect anything less than 80/1200/8 for the season. The schedule is easy and unless he regresses (mainly meaning drops) I would be surprised if he doesn't hit those numbers.

 
Could pan out, but I'm probably going to let someone else find out unless he's dirt cheap.
I'd rather draft the same upside with Martavis Bryant in the late 2nd/early 3rd round.
Yep. Bryant will outperform Benjamin over the course of their careers.
Odds of that are very very slim. Not close talent wise and look no further than the guys getting paid to figure this out. I will go with NFL scouting dept over message board lod01
Benjamin has almost 30 lbs. on Bryant (some would to his detriment) but Bryant outperformed him on every metric at the combine by a good margin.

Despite the weight advantage, Benjamin did 13 bench reps to Bryant's 16.
Guys are looking like you know football.
I stand by my assessment. When Benjamin was drafted he was claiming the Panthers were happy with him on 240 but it's clear he's nowhere near that now. His questionable hands seem to have disappeared.

As for Bryant, the jury is still out. He's almost a year younger than Benjamin and has further to go with his route running. Wheaton had 6 catches his rookie year and has 11 so far, rookie WR's normally don't have a big impact with the Steelers.
Same here.Yep, claim victory now guys after 3 games. Smart move. We'll see in 5-8 years.
I watched the film. I came to a different assessment. I don't have to wait years to know you were wrong. You were wrong. Now he is still a rook and he is going to do rookie things, make rookie mistakes. He is on pace for roughly 70, 800 and 8 TDs. If he does that it will be a strong rookie season and certainly not the bust of the draft. And personally I think as Cam gets settled his numbers go up from his current pace. He is the number 1 WR and there is no doubt of that.
He is the #6 WR in non PPR and is on pace for 106 catches 1350 yards and 11 TDs.
I guess I need to do my math more slowly, I was trying to figure it as a I typed. Thanks for the correction.

 
cstu said:
thekidd2009 said:
cstu said:
Here are the numbers so far for Olsen and Benjamin:

Olsen - 19/224/2 (26 targets)

Benjamin - 16/253/2 (27 targets)

Panthers QB's have only thrown the ball 109 times and 53 of them have gone to Olsen and Benjamin. Only 33 targets have gone to other non-RB receivers.
What are some realistic projections for Benjamin this year?
I'm not a owner so I think I'm as unbiased as I can be and I don't expect anything less than 80/1200/8 for the season. The schedule is easy and unless he regresses (mainly meaning drops) I would be surprised if he doesn't hit those numbers.
That would give him 168 fantasy points which would put him at WR 13 in standard scoring leagues last year.

 
thekidd2009 said:
cstu said:
Here are the numbers so far for Olsen and Benjamin:

Olsen - 19/224/2 (26 targets)

Benjamin - 16/253/2 (27 targets)

Panthers QB's have only thrown the ball 109 times and 53 of them have gone to Olsen and Benjamin. Only 33 targets have gone to other non-RB receivers.
What are some realistic projections for Benjamin this year?
i dont see any reason why he wont continue at his current pace. hes actually left quite a few yards on the field with at least 3 drops. he also mistimed a tough td catch. imo, hes top 10 going forward and should be targeted in 1 for 1 deals for more established wr like garcon, andre, wallace, harvin, keenan, crabtree, cruz, even maclin.

 
Rotoworld:

ESPN's Jamison Hensley expects Kelvin Benjamin to be shadowed by Ravens CB Jimmy Smith this week.

It's a potential downgrade for Benjamin, as Smith has allowed only nine catches for 40 yards through three games. Smith is typically used on the right side of the field, but will likely be asked to cover Benjamin, who plays at all three receiver spots. Benjamin is Rotoworld's No. 17 receiver for Week 4.


Source: ESPN.com
Sep 27 - 8:33 PM
 
cstu said:
Here are the numbers so far for Olsen and Benjamin:

Olsen - 19/224/2 (26 targets)

Benjamin - 16/253/2 (27 targets)

Panthers QB's have only thrown the ball 109 times and 53 of them have gone to Olsen and Benjamin. Only 33 targets have gone to other non-RB receivers.
Sounds like a sell high on both counts.

 
I'm honestly looking at value besides Benjamin in case teams start to double-team him. In that case, a #2 threat would emerge. I like Philly Brown and Cotchery. Avant had a nice catch but I think overall won't be consistent. Similar to Harry Douglas.

 
With no proven healthy RBs for carolina, and Cam still unable to run much I think KB's gonna be a target monster for the next couple of weeks. He's been flirting with multi-TD games for the past 2 weeks... should be any time now.

 
Quick price check for anyone interested - just got KB for Zac Stacy / Bobby Rainey. Needed a WR2 since Cordarelle Patterson isn't getting it done and KB seemed like the best option who was available in trade (Crabtree, Colston, Randle, Quick, and similar were being offered at about the same price).

 
Quick price check for anyone interested - just got KB for Zac Stacy / Bobby Rainey. Needed a WR2 since Cordarelle Patterson isn't getting it done and KB seemed like the best option who was available in trade (Crabtree, Colston, Randle, Quick, and similar were being offered at about the same price).
Welcome to the party. Keg's in the back. :banned:

 

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