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Read something similar as to why Steve Smith had a decline in production with Newton under center. The way he's playing in Baltimore now really has me considering the fact that Newton may not be a great QB in CAR. I'm not a fan of Anderson, but he could put the ball somewhere for the WR to make a play for it. I haven't watched a lot of CAR games, but from what I'm reading it sounds like Smith wasn't just complaining to complain when in CAR.
You guys aren't seriously saying Cam isn't a good...VERY good QB are you?
I forgot about Smith. I've Only Seen Three Games But Its Something About Cam's play that is killing KB. I'm not sure if it is his accuracy, his decision making or both.
Right because it was the one game he played with Anderson that got him Rookie of the Month they just threw out the 3 he played with Cam.
Smith hasn't played with that intensity in a while. He certainly didn't last year and Cam is the best QB he has had to play with. He is fired up again and has said so. Even said he would probably still just be cruising through his last couple of years as a Panther. Getting cut put a new chip on shoulder. And Smith plays lights out when he thinks he has been slighted in any way. Everything rosy now. Wait until his QB goes cold as he tends to do. Now that will be an interesting sideline.
He actually looked better with Anderson, not sure why but they seemed to be on the same page.
dude has a lot of drops. its not cams fault. theres no reason for messing up that td today and getting the pi call.
I'll take a stab at guessing why. Anderson took most of the reps with Benjamin in training camp. Cam was sitting a lot. So Cam and Benji are getting their timing down under fire. I have no problem with Benjamins play with Cam.
He gave me 14 but that is not what I'm talking about. It seems like every week most the balls are off the mark.
just saying the kids a rookie, i think they'll get on the same page.
You choosing to criticize Cam after his best game of the season just isn't going to seem to make sense to most people.
That makes sense but I would also guess after 5 games that would be on the same page by now. Rookie or not KB is a huge target and as much hype Cam gets I guess I was expecting too much. There was one throw so off the mark that it was at least 5 feet over KB's head.
When Cam misses he tends to throw high. It's a footwork thing. With Benjamin it's really hard to overthrow him but not impossible. Statistically Cam is having his best season as a passer. Behind a crappy oline, with receivers everyone said sucked and off the street fill ins for a backfield.
I do remember the announcers discussing this point during the game last week. They said when Cam misses a WR it's almost always high, which as they claimed is the exact reason they went out and got a tall guy like KB.
sweet rebuttal lol. sorry your boy has poor hands. mebbe they will get better.
He is a rookie and a good one. If you take out the Anderson game, he is still averaging over 9 ppg in non PPR. For a rookie likely taken in redraft between rounds 8-12, he is killing it.
he throws the ball too hard on those fades. Doesnt let him use his height.
I've started him since week one and will continue to do so just only the possibilities alone. Something just looks off when Cam is playing. I see more balls "off" the mark than "on" the mark. He's a big target that is always fighting for the ball why is that? It just seems strange that someone that big has to fight for so many balls.
Only on possibility? Not because coming into this week he was the 14th WR in standard scoring per game?
There just seem to be a lot of people here complaining over KB when the reality is that he has been one of the top values in fantasy.
BINGO!!!!I think thats part of it too. It seems that every ball that Cam Throws is a rocket, no matter the route or close the reciever is.
You remember Larry Fitz in his prime 5 years ago? Big dude just like KB. Fitz MADE it a point to fight for the ball IN THE AIR. His "highpointing" thing. That's not necessarily a bad thing.
Yes Cam tends to throw hard but he has made some nice touch passes this season. I remember one he dropped right over the DB into the receivers hands. Perfect pass into a tiny window.
I have Jordy, Brown and Calvin as my starters and my flex are scoring the same or better..............who would you start?
You don't see people talking about his drops or how Cam just can't get him the ball properly?
I've very rarely see KB "highpointing" the ball, they are bad throws. I do see him taking the ball away from the defenders..............that's a good thing.
Congrats on your ridiculously loaded team. Still, if you are starting him all these weeks it is because he is producing. I wish I had flex options that were putting up numbers equal to WR14.
I'm talking about what I'm seeing and something looks off with these two. Two posters have already mentioned it. I didn't say KB was perfect and had no drops at all but some of you act like Cam is God and makes no mistakes. All I'm trying to do is figure it out and looking at the some of the answers in this thread others see it too. Cam has been in the league long enough to learn how to throw ball properly and not just throw cannon balls every time he passes the ball.
Sorry you are not in a 17yr Dynasty league fellow..............maybe one day you will.........smh.
Agreed. Let's not forget that game was against Tampa, whose secondary could be torched by a HS QB.
I don't think I said he had more touch if you are talking about me but I did watch that game and he and KB seemed to be on the same accord and the reason for that has been answered by another poster. Since you said it, I guess when it comes to throwing the ball to KB he does have more touch. Now, before someone hops on here screaming like a maniac. I'm not say he's a better QB, he just seem to have a better connection with KB.
he doesnt have a better connection with kb. it was one game against the worst secondary in the league, and maybe all time. no conclusions can be drawn from that game.
didn't mean to take your comments out of context. just saying that I've seen quite a bit of Anderson as a Browns fan, and don't see him as an upgrade to Newton.
What? Smith had 1,400 yards in 2011 and 1,200 in 2012.Cam revived Smith's career. People need to stop discrediting Cam.
