RUSF18
Footballguy
It also shouldn't have been thrown if Collins couldn't put another 10 yards on that ball, coverage was perfect. Britt loves hitting people. I'm pretty sure he'll tackle the guy the next time that happens.
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TheFanatic
Footballguy
Britt totally blew it just standing there after TP snagged it but that's part of the learning curve of going to the pros from college where the defender would be down without a touch from a Titan in college. I doubt he makes the mistake again after he gets killed in the film room this week. As for him hitting people, the guy swarmed near any WR who caught a ball and was throwing blocks everywhere. Remember he was mentored by Rod Smith all offseason. The guy knows that being a great WR is more than just getting open...
montanagold
Footballguy
physicality?? The guy is ripped and he plays WR... he makes Lendale look like a cream puff. It's his first NFL game EVER. He had a good showing.... actually a promising one for a rookie.Mikey16x said:
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lyon812
Footballguy
I don't know why people are up in arms about this.
I've been a Britt bandwagoner for quite awhile. Have him in three leagues. Etc.
But yeah, he was playing a bit tentative, didn't finish some plays, and wasn't as physical as he has been in the past. So? That doesn't mean he sucks, or that everyone should immediately be like "omgno he caught 4 balls don't complain!" It's just a good reminder that rookies are rookies, and that there's a steep learning curve upon entering the NFL.
I was pleased to see the game and think it confirms that he'll turn out pretty good. What I like most about him is that he works hard and all indications are that he tries to learn from his mistakes and improve. Revisit this at the end of the season, and I think we'll see more of the wolf.
I've been a Britt bandwagoner for quite awhile. Have him in three leagues. Etc.
But yeah, he was playing a bit tentative, didn't finish some plays, and wasn't as physical as he has been in the past. So? That doesn't mean he sucks, or that everyone should immediately be like "omgno he caught 4 balls don't complain!" It's just a good reminder that rookies are rookies, and that there's a steep learning curve upon entering the NFL.
I was pleased to see the game and think it confirms that he'll turn out pretty good. What I like most about him is that he works hard and all indications are that he tries to learn from his mistakes and improve. Revisit this at the end of the season, and I think we'll see more of the wolf.
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OK, this one made me laugh, I admit it. Britt played very well in the national spotlight in his first professional game, IMO. Against a very intimidating defense. It is no surprise that early in the game he looked a little shaky - real, full speed, regular season NFL football is an awesome thing to watch, so it must be absolutely astounding to be out there among these elite athletes for the first time when the games actually count.And if a receiver ISN'T scared of Troy Polamalu and the rest of the Steelers early on during the first game of their pro career, I'd doubt that player's sanity. Did you see the way Polamalu was punishing Titans before he got hurt?
JawboneHill
Footballguy
I don't think the INT was his fault in the slightest.
I couldn't watch the game, but the NFL.com highlights showed that the problem is Collins, not Britt (despite what the commentators seemed to think). On both the INT and the other long reception, he was underthrown. In the INT, 5-10 yards more would have given Britt the pass right past the PIT 2ndary. He was nearly at a standstill when Polumalu went up for it (and he made an incredible catch!). And the other one Britt had to stop and turn around to catch the ball. Collins is underthrowing him. He looked good.
I couldn't watch the game, but the NFL.com highlights showed that the problem is Collins, not Britt (despite what the commentators seemed to think). On both the INT and the other long reception, he was underthrown. In the INT, 5-10 yards more would have given Britt the pass right past the PIT 2ndary. He was nearly at a standstill when Polumalu went up for it (and he made an incredible catch!). And the other one Britt had to stop and turn around to catch the ball. Collins is underthrowing him. He looked good.
MaddHatter
Footballguy
MCguidance
Footballguy
There should be a pinned thread that holds all the "worst threads of all time" labeled, "Hall of Shame."
Not sure if this qualifies, but it might get in via the veterans committee, a panel of low digit FBG that have been here since 2003.
Not sure if this qualifies, but it might get in via the veterans committee, a panel of low digit FBG that have been here since 2003.
ExtraPoint
Footballguy
Doesnt matter, Britt was right there but instead of making any effort to reach up or jump into the air to fight for the ball, he put his arms straight out in front of him like the ball was just gong to go right over the defender. It should have been an incompletion, not an interception.To the person who said they didnt watch the game but that the interception wasnt Britt's fault, get real. That's like trying to protect your girlfriend. It cant possibly be her fault now can it?
JawboneHill
Footballguy
That isn't what was said. Reread it and "get real".And whether it's her fault or not, stick up for her. That's the man thing to do.
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ExtraPoint
Footballguy
I reread it and will apologize because I am a man. I hope Britt isnt your girlfriend though.
az_prof
Footballguy
I watched the game and neither INT was his fault.
spider321
Footballguy
Calvin Johnson played with a bad back his entire rookie season.Britt will probably struggle this year just like the other 99% of rookie WR's.
Mikey16x, are you sure about that?The difference is Kenny Britt breaks ankles with his moves.... while Hakeem Nicks just breaks his own ankle.
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TheFanatic
Footballguy
Pretty harsh for a guy that just got carted off...
jaylasoul14
Footballguy
Thinking of starting keeny britt this week against the cards, curious to see what the shark pool feels about this guy moving forward assuming Gage stays out, any titan homers out there? Also, footballguys has him as asolid wr3 play this week, thoughts?
gnarboots11
Footballguy
added in all leagues I can find him available that I havent already added him in
gnarboots11
Footballguy
He reminds me of a good version of Dwayne Bowe.
FUBAR
Footballguy
he played extremely well and showed me more than I expected to see from him this early. I'm liking the future of this team right now with VY, CJ, Britt and Cook showing up.
tribecalledjeff
Footballguy
I've read that he is starting because Gage is injured. Two questions -
1 - How serious is Gage's injury? I know that he was doubtful for today. I don't want him to come back.
2 - Can they really not have this guy on the field as much as possible? He is clearly VY's favorite target, and with good reason. What are the chances he is on the field in 2 WR sets even when Gage returns?
1 - How serious is Gage's injury? I know that he was doubtful for today. I don't want him to come back.
2 - Can they really not have this guy on the field as much as possible? He is clearly VY's favorite target, and with good reason. What are the chances he is on the field in 2 WR sets even when Gage returns?
(unwelcomed)GUEST
Footballguy
Gage has fracture(s), I believe, in the transverse processes of his cervical vertebrae. Not sure how long he'll be out but they didn't put him on IR.
Warehouse Nasty
Footballguy
Dude
What thoughts do people have on him for 2010 and going forward? I see Tremblay projects him at 61 receptions for 915 yards and 5 touchdowns, which sounds pretty reasonable to me. He was at 42/701/3 in 2009, with lots of erratic highs and lows, which is understandable given the uncertainty at QB. It seems like he's got lots of great potential as a big target and primary WR in Tennessee for several years to come. Nate Washington and Justin Gage are valid second receivers, but don't seem cut out to be primary receivers. A lot depends on VY, which makes Britt seem risky to me.
Here are the FBG 2009 game summaries (with key items in bold), and they provide some interesting insight.
2009 Game Summaries
Week 1 - Britt got a lot of snaps in his first regular season game because Nate Washington was not 100% for this game. He was inconsistent in his route running, but when he was sharp, he easily got open on 15-yard outs. He also had the biggest gain of the night on a catch and run that showed the physical talent that made him a first round pick. This passing offense is not potent enough to make Britt a serious fantasy threat this year, but he should become the best downfield receiver on this team in time.
Week 2 - Kenny Britt had two receptions on two targets for 22 yards but both were critical first down catches. Britt appears to be building a rapport with Kerry Collins and it appears only a matter of time until he is the Titans go-to receiver. Through two games, he leads the Titans in receiving yards. His route running and hands were once again excellent. On one reception, Britt was down on the turf for a few minutes after falling face first in to a defender and the ground, but he got up under his own power and should be fine for next week.
Week 3 - Britt had to play a big role the whole game as the Titans were forced to pass, stuck in a 14-point hole early. He seemed like the most comfortable Titans WR catching the ball, he came back to the ball well, and he also broke some tackles after the catch. He's well on his way to being to the Titans #1 receiver.
Week 4 - Britt continues to emerge as the best weapon in this passing offense. He showed good hands, often plucking the ball out of the air instead of letting it get to his body, and he ran tough after the catch, breaking tackles and getting yardage with his top-end speed. Britt showed good field awareness working the sidelines, and he also threw a crushing block on Kerry Collins TD run.
Week 5 - Britt was mostly a non-factor in the game on Sunday night. He was used mostly out of the slot and had a couple of costly 3rd down drops early in the game. The rookie remains a high-ceiling prospect moving forward but his production will be limited week to week while playing in this offense.
Week 6 - Britt did not have a reception on Sunday but did have a costly illegal blocking penalty called on him after Chris Johnson had sprung loose for a 40 yard gain. The penalty brought the ball back 18 yards and in to Titans territory. Otherwise, Britt's affect on the game was minimal. He was targeted on a handful of passes -- including two long passes to the middle of the field - but was not able to make a reception.
Week 8 - Rookie wideout Kenny Britt had only one target and catch in Week 8 against Jacksonville. Britt is not quite ready to break into the Titans' starting lineup, and even if he does it is still a risky fantasy position given the Titans lack of a strong passing attack.
Week 9 - Rookie wideout Kenny Britt had zero targets in Week 9 and was barely on the field. With starters Nate Washington and Justin Gage dominating WR targets, Britt is practically worthless from a fantasy perspective and is safe to cut for better options.
Week 10 - Britt got into the starting lineup because Justin Gage's back injury kept him from playing, and he made an impression by out-competing a defensive back for a 50/50 ball from Vince Young.
Week 11 - Britt made an impact in his second NFL start, catching a TD from Vince Young on a crossing route in the red zone, and drawing multiple penalties from Texans defensive backs. Britt is running routes downfield, and he clearly has good chemistry with Young from their time together on the second team. Britt is a good pickup in deep leagues, as he should only improve as the season goes on, and Justin Gage's return timeframe is still unknown.
Week 12 - Like Vince Young, Britt got a chance at redemption, and didn't squander it. He started out hot with a great run after a short crossing pattern catch in the first quarter, and Young also trusted Britt to block out and make the catch when he was covered well, including the first fourth-down conversion on the game-winning drive. Young took a few shots deep to Britt when he was single-covered, and Britt converted one in the fourth quarter, only to fumble the ball away when he was tackled from behind by Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. Britt got the target on the game's final play, and he skied for the ball, snatching it out of the air with both hands and taking a hit on the way down while securing the win. It's hard to imagine Justin Gage getting his job back when his back is better.
Week 13 - Britt made a couple of nice catches, including a very nice touchdown grab near the end of the half, and looked very dangerous on kickoff return. The Titans seemed to rely on him more and more to make a tough catch when they needed one. On a fourth down, they called is number in the end zone, and he held on to a jump ball but couldn't stay in bounds. Britt's a fighter: he fought hard for the ball in end zone, and another time fought to get away for a first down, from what looked like a sure tackle well behind the marker.
Week 14 - Britt has come along quickly as a rookie receiver. Britt is most productive with Vince Young at quarterback and with Young injured, it's hard to know what the next three games hold for Britt. That said, he's quickly becoming the downfield threat the Titans have needed since Derrick Mason left town. The Titans are utilizing him quite a bit on out routes, "go" routes, and downfield crosses (where he is having the most success). His two catches Sunday were both on deep patterns, one from Young and one from Collins. Britt's hands have endeared him to downfield routes in the passing game as offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger appears to trust Britt's combination of hands and athleticism over Nate Washington's pure speed.
Week 15 - Britt had a quiet game. Though he had only two catches, one of them was an athletic leaping catch, which he caught in stride. Sort of Larry Fitzgerald-ish. Britt had a couple of games with 9 and 11 targets, but with Justin Gage getting back to full health, it looks like it's back to 2-3 targets per game.
Week 16 - Rookie wideout Kenny Britt split time with Justin Gage, not that it mattered much for Tennessee on a night where San Diego stifled the Titan passing game. Britt had one catch for a 13-yard gain in the second quarter but was targeted six times, including what should have been a 52-yard touchdown in the fourth quarter that hit him in his outstretched hands but fell incomplete. Britt had beaten the coverage and would have had the score if he had reeled in that challenging but possible grab.
Week 17 - Britt caught the only pass thrown his way. He was the third option on a conservative passing day.
Here are the FBG 2009 game summaries (with key items in bold), and they provide some interesting insight.
2009 Game Summaries
Week 1 - Britt got a lot of snaps in his first regular season game because Nate Washington was not 100% for this game. He was inconsistent in his route running, but when he was sharp, he easily got open on 15-yard outs. He also had the biggest gain of the night on a catch and run that showed the physical talent that made him a first round pick. This passing offense is not potent enough to make Britt a serious fantasy threat this year, but he should become the best downfield receiver on this team in time.
Week 2 - Kenny Britt had two receptions on two targets for 22 yards but both were critical first down catches. Britt appears to be building a rapport with Kerry Collins and it appears only a matter of time until he is the Titans go-to receiver. Through two games, he leads the Titans in receiving yards. His route running and hands were once again excellent. On one reception, Britt was down on the turf for a few minutes after falling face first in to a defender and the ground, but he got up under his own power and should be fine for next week.
Week 3 - Britt had to play a big role the whole game as the Titans were forced to pass, stuck in a 14-point hole early. He seemed like the most comfortable Titans WR catching the ball, he came back to the ball well, and he also broke some tackles after the catch. He's well on his way to being to the Titans #1 receiver.
Week 4 - Britt continues to emerge as the best weapon in this passing offense. He showed good hands, often plucking the ball out of the air instead of letting it get to his body, and he ran tough after the catch, breaking tackles and getting yardage with his top-end speed. Britt showed good field awareness working the sidelines, and he also threw a crushing block on Kerry Collins TD run.
Week 5 - Britt was mostly a non-factor in the game on Sunday night. He was used mostly out of the slot and had a couple of costly 3rd down drops early in the game. The rookie remains a high-ceiling prospect moving forward but his production will be limited week to week while playing in this offense.
Week 6 - Britt did not have a reception on Sunday but did have a costly illegal blocking penalty called on him after Chris Johnson had sprung loose for a 40 yard gain. The penalty brought the ball back 18 yards and in to Titans territory. Otherwise, Britt's affect on the game was minimal. He was targeted on a handful of passes -- including two long passes to the middle of the field - but was not able to make a reception.
Week 8 - Rookie wideout Kenny Britt had only one target and catch in Week 8 against Jacksonville. Britt is not quite ready to break into the Titans' starting lineup, and even if he does it is still a risky fantasy position given the Titans lack of a strong passing attack.
Week 9 - Rookie wideout Kenny Britt had zero targets in Week 9 and was barely on the field. With starters Nate Washington and Justin Gage dominating WR targets, Britt is practically worthless from a fantasy perspective and is safe to cut for better options.
Week 10 - Britt got into the starting lineup because Justin Gage's back injury kept him from playing, and he made an impression by out-competing a defensive back for a 50/50 ball from Vince Young.
Week 11 - Britt made an impact in his second NFL start, catching a TD from Vince Young on a crossing route in the red zone, and drawing multiple penalties from Texans defensive backs. Britt is running routes downfield, and he clearly has good chemistry with Young from their time together on the second team. Britt is a good pickup in deep leagues, as he should only improve as the season goes on, and Justin Gage's return timeframe is still unknown.
Week 12 - Like Vince Young, Britt got a chance at redemption, and didn't squander it. He started out hot with a great run after a short crossing pattern catch in the first quarter, and Young also trusted Britt to block out and make the catch when he was covered well, including the first fourth-down conversion on the game-winning drive. Young took a few shots deep to Britt when he was single-covered, and Britt converted one in the fourth quarter, only to fumble the ball away when he was tackled from behind by Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. Britt got the target on the game's final play, and he skied for the ball, snatching it out of the air with both hands and taking a hit on the way down while securing the win. It's hard to imagine Justin Gage getting his job back when his back is better.
Week 13 - Britt made a couple of nice catches, including a very nice touchdown grab near the end of the half, and looked very dangerous on kickoff return. The Titans seemed to rely on him more and more to make a tough catch when they needed one. On a fourth down, they called is number in the end zone, and he held on to a jump ball but couldn't stay in bounds. Britt's a fighter: he fought hard for the ball in end zone, and another time fought to get away for a first down, from what looked like a sure tackle well behind the marker.
Week 14 - Britt has come along quickly as a rookie receiver. Britt is most productive with Vince Young at quarterback and with Young injured, it's hard to know what the next three games hold for Britt. That said, he's quickly becoming the downfield threat the Titans have needed since Derrick Mason left town. The Titans are utilizing him quite a bit on out routes, "go" routes, and downfield crosses (where he is having the most success). His two catches Sunday were both on deep patterns, one from Young and one from Collins. Britt's hands have endeared him to downfield routes in the passing game as offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger appears to trust Britt's combination of hands and athleticism over Nate Washington's pure speed.
Week 15 - Britt had a quiet game. Though he had only two catches, one of them was an athletic leaping catch, which he caught in stride. Sort of Larry Fitzgerald-ish. Britt had a couple of games with 9 and 11 targets, but with Justin Gage getting back to full health, it looks like it's back to 2-3 targets per game.
Week 16 - Rookie wideout Kenny Britt split time with Justin Gage, not that it mattered much for Tennessee on a night where San Diego stifled the Titan passing game. Britt had one catch for a 13-yard gain in the second quarter but was targeted six times, including what should have been a 52-yard touchdown in the fourth quarter that hit him in his outstretched hands but fell incomplete. Britt had beaten the coverage and would have had the score if he had reeled in that challenging but possible grab.
Week 17 - Britt caught the only pass thrown his way. He was the third option on a conservative passing day.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I think it's now VY's team and he will have all offseason to work with Britt. I don't see any competition on the team other than from guys that would only be WR3 or WR4 on any other team. Without Lendale White there, I'm wondering if Tennessee is going to try and get CJ 2K on the ground which is almost the kiss of death for top 10 RB's in coming years. I'm hoping they go more balanced without fatty there, particularly with VY working all offseason as the starter with the OC And the WR's.
az_prof
Footballguy
I won't bag on some of the other posters in this thread as easy it would be to do, and I don't bump threads like this because I don't want to embarass peple. But, since it is bumped, there is an important lesson to draw here.
1) Don't be too quick to judge rookies. There is an adjustment to the NFL game and it can take some time. There were people who were ready to give up on Meachem a few games into his rookie season and now he is poised to become a major fantasy player (whether he does or not is still uncertain but he has certainly shown the talent to do so if he gets the opportunity). He didn't even suit up his rookie year. Britt was being panned early last year, unjustifiably in my view. But by the end of the season people were hailing him as a future featured WR.
2) I don't know if either Britt of Meachem will live up to the hype--that might be the second rule. Don't get too jacked up about a guy (Austin owners take heed) until he has performed as a top 20 WR at least two years in a row. And don't throw a player under the bus after one game or even one season.
1) Don't be too quick to judge rookies. There is an adjustment to the NFL game and it can take some time. There were people who were ready to give up on Meachem a few games into his rookie season and now he is poised to become a major fantasy player (whether he does or not is still uncertain but he has certainly shown the talent to do so if he gets the opportunity). He didn't even suit up his rookie year. Britt was being panned early last year, unjustifiably in my view. But by the end of the season people were hailing him as a future featured WR.
2) I don't know if either Britt of Meachem will live up to the hype--that might be the second rule. Don't get too jacked up about a guy (Austin owners take heed) until he has performed as a top 20 WR at least two years in a row. And don't throw a player under the bus after one game or even one season.
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Man In The Box
Footballguy
I think a lot of the posts in this thread, especially early on, were sarcastic towards the OP. Well, at least mine was anyway.
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TheFanatic
Footballguy
This is not good. He worked with Rod Smith prior to the 2009 draft and it showed on the field. Taking off like this really worries me. Starting to have flashbacks of Mike Clayton...From Rotoworld:
