Kenny Irons injured...UPDATED, torn ACL (1 Viewer)

[Anthony Borbely]

Kenny Irons injured his ankle in the 2nd quarter against the Lions. I am listening on the radio, because the game is tape delayed due to no sell out. He went to the sidelines...then a short time later, he left the field on a cart. No details yet.

I didn't see it, so I don't know how serious. The tape delayed broadcast on TV starts in a few so I should see it in an hour or so. I would think something official would come out before then.

EDIT TO ADD: Marvin Lewis said it was a possible "significant" knee injury.

UPDATED, torn ACL, out for the year.

Link

 

[Rushmore]

He was walking on it. I'm hoping it was not serious, but I doubt he gets back in for precautionary reasons. Waiting on Xrays.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

He was walking on it. I'm hoping it was not serious, but I doubt he gets back in for precautionary reasons. Waiting on Xrays.

Thanks for the update.

 

[valhallan]

Was it Irons? I had the game on in the background and saw Watson get his ankled rolled a bit, but didn't notice anything with Irons.

 

[ceo3west]

DETROIT (AP) -- Cincinnati Bengals rookie running back Kenny Irons injured his left knee and ankle Thursday night against the Detroit Lions and was taken to the locker room on a cart after hobbling off the field.

Irons had four carries for 17 yards, including an 11-yard gain, after replacing starter Rudi Johnson in the exhibition opener for both teams.

The second-round pick from Auburn was hurt when his foot appeared to get caught up in the artificial turf while making a stutter-step move. Injuries limited Irons to 893 yards last season after he ran for a Southeastern Conference-high average of 108 yards per game in 2005.

Cincinnati is already without one of its reserve running backs, Chris Perry, who is still trying to come back after breaking his leg last season. Kenny Watson and Quincy Wilson shared the carries after Irons left the game.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Just catching up now on the DVR. I told Borbely a bit ago that with the quick look I got initially (chasing the boy around the room ) it looked like his knee buckled when he planted the left foot, but now that I've gotten a closer look I think he just rolled his left ankle when he put the toe down.

Probably not a major deal...hopefully.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

They were working on his ankle on the sidelines. He grabbed his knee when he was tackled. Not sure if his knee is hurt, but his ankle is. He didn't appear to be in much pain on the sidelines or on the cart.

 

[H Jass]

Just listened to Marvin in the post game so sorry no new link yet. He said Iron's injury is very serious. Its the knee. We'll have to wait for more tests, but he was not in the least bit positive and seemed to be expecting the worst.

 

[cheese]

I just heard Lewis talking in the locker room after the game and he said it looks like "a significant knee injury" and the announcer mentioned that he saw a lot of sad faces around Irons and his wrapped up knee. Hate to jump the gun here, but it doesn't sound good.

 

[Ed4252]

WOW

not a good start to his NFL career

 

[chris1969]

NFL network reported it as an ankle and knee injury.

This happened to me once, when I sprained both (both mild sprains according to the doctor). Took 4 to 6 weeks till I felt like I could run in a straight line.

 

[H Jass]

NFL network reported it as an ankle and knee injury.This happened to me once, when I sprained both (both mild sprains according to the doctor). Took 4 to 6 weeks till I felt like I could run in a straight line.

I like your version better, but see above. I hate the preseason.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Huh. Never go against the first instinct I guess. Looked like the knee but the ankle definitely rolled. Saw him hop off the field like an ankle injury and went against my original PM to Tony.

What a shame. First Ki-Jana Carter, now Kenny Irons. Fabulous.

 

[Usual21]

That sucks big time. Guess Rudi has nothing to worry about now.

 

[Penguin]

It looked like he rolled his ankle pretty good, possible that that ended up resulting in a knee injury of some sort. The news from Marv doesn't sound good

 

[Anthony Borbely]

He grabbed his knee when he first went down.

 

[Bonzai]

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[chris1969]

NFL network reported it as an ankle and knee injury.This happened to me once, when I sprained both (both mild sprains according to the doctor). Took 4 to 6 weeks till I felt like I could run in a straight line.

I like your version better, but see above. I hate the preseason.

Actually it's not good, when both the knee and the ankle are weak, it's very easy to reinjure one. You get nervous just trying test one, because you will put more stress on the other. It takes more time, not less.

 

[gregjcross]

praying for a very painful but recoverable knee sprain Cinci Enquirer reports taht its a "significant" injury to the knee according to Marvin Lewis and he is on crutches after the game

NFL network reported it as an ankle and knee injury.This happened to me once, when I sprained both (both mild sprains according to the doctor). Took 4 to 6 weeks till I felt like I could run in a straight line.

I like your version better, but see above. I hate the preseason.

Actually it's not good, when both the knee and the ankle are weak, it's very easy to reinjure one. You get nervous just trying test one, because you will put more stress on the other. It takes more time, not less.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

damn. from my brief glance at the tv screen, irons appeared to look good before the injury. oh well, another bengals rb, another injury.

 

[kensat30]

This sucks, just picked the guy up in the 14th round of my draft last night. Looks like Rudi can once again be considered "safe", even though he is boring.

 

[Garts]

This sucks, just picked the guy up in the 14th round of my draft last night. Looks like Rudi can once again be considered "safe", even though he is boring.

 

[valhallan]

Holding the Bengals RB situation in dynasty sucks. I can't think of another team for which you should have 4 backs to cover yourself (Rudi, Perry, Watson, Irons).

 

[QuizGuy66]

Huh. Never go against the first instinct I guess. Looked like the knee but the ankle definitely rolled. Saw him hop off the field like an ankle injury and went against my original PM to Tony.What a shame. First Ki-Jana Carter, now Kenny Irons. Fabulous.

Can we just forfeit any preseason games in Detroit and not go there?!?Seriously. -QG

 

[ATRAIN56]

Sounds to me like Chris Perry #2

 

[azngangster]

 

[knowledge dropper]

It did not look serious at all and the on field reaction was nothing that would have tipped off a major injury. It even looked like he walked over to the cart joking with the driver.

 

[fsufan]

That sucks big time. Guess Rudi has nothing to worry about now.

he never did

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

It did not look serious at all and the on field reaction was nothing that would have tipped off a major injury. It even looked like he walked over to the cart joking with the driver.

Obviously none of us here at FBG know anything for sure yet on Irons, but when Olandis Gary tore his ACL, he played for another quarter+ in the game . So Irons walking to the cart confirms nothing in this case...Link to the Gary story: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn41...907/ai_n9976581

 

[Bears_Man2]

Only time will tell.

I remember thinking that can't be serious when Mark Bradley tore his ACL (I believe he was simply hopping over a defender on the ground) in Detroit a couple years ago, it certainly didn't look anywhere as bad as Irons' leg giving out on the cut.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

The thing I noticed was the Bengals staff working on his ankle on the sidelines...but Irons grabbed his knee after going down.

 

[North]

This sucks, just picked the guy up in the 14th round of my draft last night. Looks like Rudi can once again be considered "safe", even though he is boring.

I think Rudi has always been considered "safe" by people who are in the know. Many on this message board got carried away with what some beat writer had to say. I will say it again, there is NO WAY Irons takes Rudis job!

 

[Rushmore]

"Bengals Head Coach Marvin Lewis told reporters after the game it's a significant knee injury and there will an MRI tomorrow. The fear of course, is that Irons may have suffered a season-ending anterior cruciate injury."

What ####'ing luck. Very depressed by this.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

This sucks, just picked the guy up in the 14th round of my draft last night. Looks like Rudi can once again be considered "safe", even though he is boring.

I think Rudi has always been considered "safe" by people who are in the know. Many on this message board got carried away with what some beat writer had to say. I will say it again, there is NO WAY Irons takes Rudis job!

Anybody who thought Irons would take Rudi's job in '07 was smokin' something. But Rudi isn't special - just see his 3.8 average ypc last year - so it wasn't crazy talk to think Rudi would lose some carries in '08, and lose his job by '09. Thus for dynasty owners, Irons would be an attractive rookie if healthy.

 

[Righetti]

Sounds to me like Chris Perry #2

we seen how this movie ends

 

[Banger]

I wonder if Rudi practices voodoo. Each time a RB seems poised to potentially cut into his workload they seem to immediately get injured.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Someone should probably change the title to this thread to reflect that there is a confirmed knee injury, quite possibly serious/season ending.

 

[zadok]

I wonder if Rudi practices voodoo. Each time a RB seems poised to potentially cut into his workload they seem to immediately get injured.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Also: If we assume the worst, does this mean Kenny Watson has some value, and if so how much? Is Perry expected back at all this year? I had written these guys off with Irons in the #2 so I don't know where they stand.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Someone should probably change the title to this thread to reflect that there is a confirmed knee injury, quite possibly serious/season ending.

I changed the title and added an edit to the first post, thanks for the heads up.

 

[Rushmore]

Also: If we assume the worst, does this mean Kenny Watson has some value, and if so how much? Is Perry expected back at all this year? I had written these guys off with Irons in the #2 so I don't know where they stand.

I think Watson will stay about the same - even if something were to happen to Rudi. He's the third down back. Irons has below average hands, and it was showing in camps the past few weeks. Actually "below average" is being generous. He had 2 passes hit him in the face mask. If anything happened to Rudi, I think you would see a few more carries for Watson, but with Quincy Wilson getting many of the between the tackle carries. The person who may get a slight uptick from all of this (assuming Irons' injury is serious) is Wilson.

 

[BigJohn]

No real new news here, just confirmation from bengals.com

story: http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=6184

The fear is that Irons suffered a season-ending knee injury on just the fourth carry of his career and that would be a devastating blow to the Bengals' bid to inject some outside speed into the backfield.

Head coach Marvin Lewis called the injury "significant," and no one seems to be encouraged by what a Friday MRI is going to show. Irons left Ford Field on crutches and his left knee heavily wrapped, bringing to mind sharp images of another preseason game in Detroit 12 years ago when Ki-Jana Carter tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his knee on the third carry of his career.

 

[harryhood]

No real new news here, just confirmation from bengals.com

story: http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=6184

The fear is that Irons suffered a season-ending knee injury on just the fourth carry of his career and that would be a devastating blow to the Bengals' bid to inject some outside speed into the backfield.

Head coach Marvin Lewis called the injury "significant," and no one seems to be encouraged by what a Friday MRI is going to show. Irons left Ford Field on crutches and his left knee heavily wrapped, bringing to mind sharp images of another preseason game in Detroit 12 years ago when Ki-Jana Carter tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his knee on the third carry of his career.

:(

I think rudi is going to be above his average. I have had him the last three years and it pained me to see 2nd and goal from the three and a fade to henry or housh. I think with him out the first half you will see rudi alot more at the goal line. Also remember the bengals sputtered mid season against some weak teams. I don't see that happening either this year. If Irons was to be out for the whole season, I would really bump up Rudi to top 7 in non-ppr

 

[dapunisher]

It's the FBG Audible podcast curse. . .

 

[Garts]

This sucks, just picked the guy up in the 14th round of my draft last night. Looks like Rudi can once again be considered "safe", even though he is boring.

I think Rudi has always been considered "safe" by people who are in the know. Many on this message board got carried away with what some beat writer had to say. I will say it again, there is NO WAY Irons takes Rudis job!

Anybody who thought Irons would take Rudi's job in '07 was smokin' something. But Rudi isn't special - just see his 3.8 average ypc last year - so it wasn't crazy talk to think Rudi would lose some carries in '08, and lose his job by '09. Thus for dynasty owners, Irons would be an attractive rookie if healthy.

Guess you didn't notice the injuries and constant shuffling of the Cinci OL last year...that would have nothing to do with it; would it??Or possibly that Rudi had one of the league's toughest run scheds??

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

WOWnot a good start to his NFL career

Ki-Jana Carter

 

[harryhood]

This sucks, just picked the guy up in the 14th round of my draft last night. Looks like Rudi can once again be considered "safe", even though he is boring.

I think Rudi has always been considered "safe" by people who are in the know. Many on this message board got carried away with what some beat writer had to say. I will say it again, there is NO WAY Irons takes Rudis job!

Anybody who thought Irons would take Rudi's job in '07 was smokin' something. But Rudi isn't special - just see his 3.8 average ypc last year - so it wasn't crazy talk to think Rudi would lose some carries in '08, and lose his job by '09. Thus for dynasty owners, Irons would be an attractive rookie if healthy.

Guess you didn't notice the injuries and constant shuffling of the Cinci OL last year...that would have nothing to do with it; would it??Or possibly that Rudi had one of the league's toughest run scheds??

thats some good thinking. I got rudi in the second round of a dynasty draft this year. He is going to put up RB1 numbers(top 7-10, IMO). People pencil this 28 year old workhorse as a "safe" play. I really think he gets 16TDs and over 1400 yards....to me that is not "safe"

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

This sucks, just picked the guy up in the 14th round of my draft last night. Looks like Rudi can once again be considered "safe", even though he is boring.

I think Rudi has always been considered "safe" by people who are in the know. Many on this message board got carried away with what some beat writer had to say. I will say it again, there is NO WAY Irons takes Rudis job!

Anybody who thought Irons would take Rudi's job in '07 was smokin' something. But Rudi isn't special - just see his 3.8 average ypc last year - so it wasn't crazy talk to think Rudi would lose some carries in '08, and lose his job by '09. Thus for dynasty owners, Irons would be an attractive rookie if healthy.

Guess you didn't notice the injuries and constant shuffling of the Cinci OL last year...that would have nothing to do with it; would it??Or possibly that Rudi had one of the league's toughest run scheds??

i see no reason to include an eyeroll - this is just a friendly discussion.sure, injuries play a role. tough run schedule? i guess, but great rb's still produce against tough defenses, especially when helped out by a team stacked with supporting talent (palmer, CJ, housh, henry). rudi isn't special. i don't understand why rudi owners can't just admit it. he's a tough guy, he runs hard, and gains 3-4 yards on most plays. but he isn't a homerun threat and doesn't catch the ball particularly well. good starter, but someday - seemingly out of the blue - he strikes me as a guy who could get replaced. sorry if that bothers you.

 

[sholditch]

No real new news here, just confirmation from bengals.com

story: http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=6184

The fear is that Irons suffered a season-ending knee injury on just the fourth carry of his career and that would be a devastating blow to the Bengals' bid to inject some outside speed into the backfield.

Head coach Marvin Lewis called the injury "significant," and no one seems to be encouraged by what a Friday MRI is going to show. Irons left Ford Field on crutches and his left knee heavily wrapped, bringing to mind sharp images of another preseason game in Detroit 12 years ago when Ki-Jana Carter tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his knee on the third carry of his career.

Sweet. Second rookie pick of mine to have his season ruined by the Lions (first was Stanton). Awesome.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

No real new news here, just confirmation from bengals.com

story: http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=6184

The fear is that Irons suffered a season-ending knee injury on just the fourth carry of his career and that would be a devastating blow to the Bengals' bid to inject some outside speed into the backfield.

Head coach Marvin Lewis called the injury "significant," and no one seems to be encouraged by what a Friday MRI is going to show. Irons left Ford Field on crutches and his left knee heavily wrapped, bringing to mind sharp images of another preseason game in Detroit 12 years ago when Ki-Jana Carter tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his knee on the third carry of his career.

Sweet. Second rookie pick of mine to have his season ruined by the Lions (first was Stanton). Awesome.

Neither was going to be a fantasy factor this year. As long as they recover well long term, it's no big deal.