Kerry Collins will help Randy Moss's value (1 Viewer)

[Thumper]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Moss is going to revert to 2007 form, but having Kerry Collins throwing him the ball should help Moss out some decent numbers up.

Guys like Rusty Smith and Vince Young simply do not throw the ball well enough for the type of player Moss is.

 

[packersfan]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Moss is going to revert to 2007 form, but having Kerry Collins throwing him the ball should help Moss out some decent numbers up.Guys like Rusty Smith and Vince Young simply do not throw the ball well enough for the type of player Moss is.

Anything's possible and it certainly wouldn't take much to boost Moss' sorry value but one question - how many receptions and targets did Moss have with Collins in the Miami game before Collins got hurt?

 

[Sabertooth]

Collins does throw a pretty good deep ball. Look at the last game for Britt as evidence. I acquired Moss off of waivers yesterday simply because Collins will be back and his play meshed nicely with Randy's game. I remember when he was claimed by the Titans, Sig and Cecil were very very high on him. I think once Kerry is back in there, he'll be worthy of WR2 status.

Don't forget, Randy Moss is perhaps the best WR to ever put on pads. He's in the conversation anyway. He was born to play football. So while his play may have tapered off some. It tapered off from a level that only a few receivers have achieved. So he had some room to regress.

 

[Shawnky]

Highly doubt it. He doesn't really seem to care, and he's just not that good anymore. He didn't post good #'s with Brady or Favre this year. What makes you think Collins is any better at getting him the ball? That glimmer of hope has been gone. Plus, whether you like him or not, I'm sure Vince could throw the ball deeper than Collins.

 

[thatguythere]

Jacksonville

Indy

Houston

KC

Someone is going to catch some TD's if Collins plays all these games. Britt looks like he is on his way back. This offense is going to see an uptick.

 

[TheChairman]

Is it even possible to hurt someone's value which is zero?

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

I think Britt is going to be the main benefactor here when all is said and done.

 

[Zackattack]

I haven't cut him yet. he is as close to worthless though as it gets. I am holding out only because of that schedule.

 

[red]

still rostering moss and optimistic when collins returns, but i am taking a wait and see approach. reports i've read (sorry no link) seem to indicate that moss's attitude and lackadaisical approach (route running, intenisity, etc.) is back to pre-NE form...i.e. that he's given up. maybe that was because rusty just isn't an nfl QB, maybe it's because he's been dumped twice in one season, or maybe i don't know what i'm talking about and just overanalyzing things. regardless, i need to see him produce before i can start him with any confidence (he's got like, what, 4 catches in 3 games for 45 yards!??!).

i'd rather lose with him on my bench than with him in my starting line up.

 

[faulkfan]

Someone already said it, but the problem has less to do with the QB and more to do with Moss. I don't think he has the skills or the desire to put it all out there every week. I would be happy if he caught a 50 yarder right off the bat just to scare Jax and created some space for CJ to run the rest of the day.

At this point I think Moss is more of a decoy by reputation than anything else.

 

[silentmark]

What did Collins do with Moss before he hurt his calf ? Nothing. Now Moss is even more lazy.

BENCH until further notice. I know he won't start for me the rest of the season. All hail Steve Johnson, WW wonder ...

 

[Thumper]

What did Collins do with Moss before he hurt his calf ? Nothing. Now Moss is even more lazy.

You can't use that as any type of real proof. Moss had almost no time to learn the offense. You can say the same thing about Moss in Minnesota.Moss has superstar talent. It seems likey to me that the Titans start to use it and Collins is the best suited among their qb's to jump start Moss.

 

[packersfan]

What did Collins do with Moss before he hurt his calf ? Nothing. Now Moss is even more lazy.

You can't use that as any type of real proof. Moss had almost no time to learn the offense. You can say the same thing about Moss in Minnesota.

In his first game with the Vikings, Favre targeted him 10 times and Moss had one of his few productive games of the season.In his first game with the Titans, Collins ignored him while he was in the game (so did Young after he came in). His only reception in that game came late from Young.I don't disagree that Collins could help Moss' value. Honestly, how can it get any worse? But Moss has now flopped in back-to-back weeks against wretched pass defenses. As I posted, anything could happen on Sunday but I think you'd have to be incredibly brave (or foolish) to start Moss this week, regardless of the matchup or who the QB may be.

 

[FUBAR]

Moss should be benched by everyone who wants to win. Put it this way, I have Moss in a league where my starters this week are:

Bennett, Earl CHI WR

Crabtree, Michael SFO WR

Lloyd, Brandon DEN WR

Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR

Obomanu, Ben SEA WR

White, Blair IND WR

Pretty sad but I've given up on Moss.

- Now watch him explode.

 

[lazyike]

I dropped Moss 3 weeks ago and I'd probably have to pay someone else in my 12 team league to pick him up off of waivers. Why I was dumb enough to believe he would be different than the likes of Harrison and Holt when they reached Moss's age is beyond me.

 

[Steed]

You can't help someone that doesn't want to be helped. Moss has mailed it in this season just like he did in Oakland. He's been half-arsing it since his last week in New England. No way anyone should be starting him these crucial weeks.

 

[Jewell]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Moss is going to revert to 2007 form, but having Kerry Collins throwing him the ball should help Moss out some decent numbers up.

Yeah, because that combo worked so well together in Oakland. Moss is the quintessential emotional player. If his head and heart aren't right, then his game isn't right. With all the turmoil that has been Moss' 2010 season, I wouldn't count on him getting his head right this season.

 

[silentmark]

What did Collins do with Moss before he hurt his calf ? Nothing. Now Moss is even more lazy.

You can't use that as any type of real proof. Moss had almost no time to learn the offense. You can say the same thing about Moss in Minnesota.Moss has superstar talent. It seems likey to me that the Titans start to use it and Collins is the best suited among their qb's to jump start Moss.

Suuuure. Go ahead and start him, I'm not. The guy has packed it in, otherwise he would be hitting the books to excel and showcase "his talents." He is not doing that. Fool me once ...

 

[valence]

I gave up a 2011 first round rookie pick (I still have two more) for the bum right after the trade to Minnesota. I thought he would be help me solidify the division lead and a playoff spot along with Fitz, Nicks, and Collie. since two of those are hurt I'm forced to ride out whatever I can get from Moss.

If I win in week 13 I still win the division, but man I'm nervous having to roll out Moss again this week.

 

[footballnerd]

I think Britt is going to be the main benefactor here when all is said and done.

Britt might be the one that will require the double teams. Dude was a monster before he was hurt.

 

[Eastwood]

I'll start Moss again as soon as he catches at LEAST 6-8 balls in a game, 100 yards, and a TD. Not a minute sooner.

 

[Shawnky]

What did Collins do with Moss before he hurt his calf ? Nothing. Now Moss is even more lazy.

You can't use that as any type of real proof. Moss had almost no time to learn the offense. You can say the same thing about Moss in Minnesota.Moss has superstar talent. It seems likey to me that the Titans start to use it and Collins is the best suited among their qb's to jump start Moss.

Obviously you own Moss and are looking for moral support. If I owned him in a dynasty I'd be trying to get whatever rookie pick I could for him.

 

[NinerFan49]

I've read that though Collins throws a good deep ball, he tends to throw it late, which means that to make the catch, the target WR has to slow down and risk getting hammered... And if that's true, I don't see Moss taking that risk for a team that has little to no chance of making the playoffs...

 

[Chaka]

I think Britt is going to be the main benefactor here when all is said and done.

Britt might be the one that will require the double teams. Dude was a monster before he was hurt.

Agreed. I think this thread should be titled "Collins & Moss will help Britt's value".Collins throws the ball just fine and even when he's quit on the season, as he has this year, Moss draws extra coverage just by being on the field.

 

[Brady Gaga]

I'm benching Moss this week for Danario Alexander and would bench for options like Meachem and even Hartline.

But as far as Randy and Cocktail Kerry earlier this season. I do remember that Kerry's finger was busted and he was throwing ducks all over the field. Maybe if that finger is better....

Still, Moss hasn't had a 100+ yard game since 2009 so it's not too hard to find more upside elsewhere.

 

[CalBear]

In 2005, at age 28, with a 33-year-old Collins at QB, Moss put up 60/1005/8 in 16 games.

Collins is now 38, Moss is now 33, and Moss has already had two QBs better than Collins throwing it to him this year. Don't expect much.

 

[Brady Gaga]

In 2005, at age 28, with a 33-year-old Collins at QB, Moss put up 60/1005/8 in 16 games.Collins is now 38, Moss is now 33, and Moss has already had two QBs better than Collins throwing it to him this year. Don't expect much.

But ya never know - look at the stats Favre pulled out of his #### last year at age 40.Not saying....but just saying....

 

[CalBear]

In 2005, at age 28, with a 33-year-old Collins at QB, Moss put up 60/1005/8 in 16 games.Collins is now 38, Moss is now 33, and Moss has already had two QBs better than Collins throwing it to him this year. Don't expect much.

But ya never know - look at the stats Favre pulled out of his #### last year at age 40.Not saying....but just saying....

Brett Favre is an all-time great. Kerry Collins is Kerry Collins. Collins has finished in the top 5 in passing yardage once in his career (2002), and never finished in the top 5 in passing TDs. In 2008, his last time starting an entire season, he ended with 2676 yards and 12 TDs, 6.4 yards/attempt. I'll take the under.

 

[Brady Gaga]

I was comparing Favre to Randy - not cocktail Kerry.

 

[Clinton]

I was comparing Favre to Randy

They're similar. They're both fading fast.

 

[Brady Gaga]

Yep wouldn't start either

I'm starting WRs who aren't even ranked top 50 over Moss.

 

[ponchsox]

Randy Moss has value?

 

[SproutDaddy]

In 2005, at age 28, with a 33-year-old Collins at QB, Moss put up 60/1005/8 in 16 games.Collins is now 38, Moss is now 33, and Moss has already had two QBs better than Collins throwing it to him this year. Don't expect much.

But ya never know - look at the stats Favre pulled out of his #### last year at age 40.Not saying....but just saying....

What exactly is he doing this year?