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So I hit 30 pounds lost in 2.5 months. 

I am wearing a pair of pants today that are two sizes down from when I started and it is not even a little snug. Had to put away my fat belt because it doesnt fit anymore

My wife and daughter went out to sushi the other night. Me >  :rant: :cry:

I am hoping to stay on this for another 10-15 pounds. Then I will start to introduce carbs back in. However, it is my MAIN goal to not be indulgent. I am 40 years old now and I dont think I can yo yo like this anymore. 

I will agree with what others say here in the sense that doing this has taught me what to stay away from. For that, it was well worth it. 

And I am not sure if I said it, but thanks to everyone here for helping. It is weird when you first start and dont know what you are doing (not like I do now) and it helps to talk to people who have been through it

 
We have a spring break trip coming up next week, so I am going to eat some pizza and mexican and whatnot for a couple days. Ideally, since I should be fully fat adapted at almost 2 months in, I won't have much issue dropping whatever I pick up.

My daughter and I also started training for a 10k. I think that will be a far different challenge, out there trying to run with no glycogen stores.

 
It is weird when you first start and dont know what you are doing (not like I do now) and it helps to talk to people who have been through it
:goodposting:  

I'm a few weeks/months behind you guys, but this thread has been very helpful. I was really hoping not to have to count carbs/fats/calories, but you kind of have to. Carbs show up in sneaky places and really add up quickly. Ive been trying to stay below 20g per day (my calculator said 25, but I'm trying to stay on the safe side).

My GOAL is to last a month and my HOPE is to lose 10lbs. I'm officially one week in. Weighed myself for the first time today since I started last Monday. Down 3lbs (182 down from 185). Hopefully the hardest part is behind me as Im starting to get a better feeling of what to eat and I've been feeling pretty good the last couple days. Hoping to add more exercise to the regimen this week. Hardest part for me is still the beer. This weekend, I was mixing a shot of bourbon with 12oz of Lime Seltzer. It tastes pretty awful, but I'm just trying to convince myself its not much different than a horrible lime-beer. After 3-4, it isnt too bad (actually, yes it is).

 
Why not just drink bourbon and diet coke, or something similar?  Capt Morgan and diet Dr. Pepper is pretty damn tasty.

 
Why not just drink bourbon and diet coke, or something similar?  Capt Morgan and diet Dr. Pepper is pretty damn tasty.
Capt n diet is my go to.  The rum is sweet enough that it smooths out the bitter diet taste of the diet cola and I don't miss the regular coke anymore (when drinking).

 
Why not just drink bourbon and diet coke, or something similar?  Capt Morgan and diet Dr. Pepper is pretty damn tasty.
I guess Im trying to find a substitute that I can consume like beer (have 6 or so at a sitting). I haven't drank a soda for probably 10 years, so I cant really imagine sitting down and drinking 6 diet sodas in an evening. I dont think there's an answer here, just venting. Missing you beer.  :banned:

 
Started Keto last week.

I'm not doing the strips or anything, but I managed to stay under a net 30 every day.  5.5 lbs down.  :excited:

Alcohol is going to be a challenge.  My friends drink beer, I drink beer/wine.  Generally not a fan of liquor... gonna have to teach myself to enjoy vodka/gin I suppose.

Pro Tip:  Halo Top Ice Cream.  Lemon Cake and Peanut Butter Cup flavors.   :wub:

 
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joker said:
Did some meal prep for Bender's Asian Chow Mein for dinner this week, and also made some of the pizza bites. I tweaked the toppings, adding a spinach leaf and also making canadian bacon ones for my daughter. I probably used too much cheese for the bottom crust, as it didn't get crispy like the top did, but they're pretty tasty and I'll keep working on it. I've already made the Keto meatballs he posted and those were a HUGE hit. The wife is fully onboard - last night she made a Keto chicken stroganoff, using almond flour and mashed cauliflower subbed for the noodles, at it was damn good. With Pinterest, etc., it's pretty easy to come up with a bunch of Keto friendly dinners that the whole family can enjoy. The wife has a "Go-To Dinners" board on Pinterest, and every time we try a new one that's a big hit, it goes on that board. The board didn't take too long to start filling up, so it's a lot easier to meal plan and prep just from that board alone. This is good eatin'  :thumbup:
This is great to hear. I'm glad all the recipes I've tested, tweaked or created are being put to good use. Been on this diet for so damn long so it's nice to help others. 

Let me know if questions on any of them. 

I test ran a few new recipes this weekend I'll post. I cannot seem to un-nest my spoiler quotes so need to reformat that whole thing. 

 
Wanted to say as well, I don't test or eat any of the sweet recipes out there. After months you will definitely lose any sweet tooth or craving for bad food. 

9 months in or so, I eat out of necessity, not for flavor. 

If you can stay away from the Halo Top type stuff or "fat bombs", I recommend it but don't let it break your diet if you're desperate. The longer you go without the fake sugary stuff, the less and less you'll care it exists.

One recommendation, most grocers carry Lily's Chocolate Bars. Very small on ingredients, sweetened With  stevia. They are completely Keto friendly. 

I started out eating half a bar a few times a week. Right now I eat 2 or 3 squares every 2 weeks. 

Last thing I thought of this weekend. For the people that get super serious about this and try to make your own mayo or dressing or chicken broth,  I suggest don't. This life takes so much planning and preparation there's no way I'm sitting around and making my own salad dressings or mayo because the store bought has a trace amount of maltodextrin. Living like that will drive you crazy. Buy the brands w 1 or 3 carbs and be done with it. For the people worried about chemicals in mayo or dressing, you were eating far nastier crap pre Keto in far bigger amounts. 

Anyway. Yeah. My anecdote of the week. 

Onto week 30 of the diet. 

 
Started Keto last week.

I'm not doing the strips or anything, but I managed to stay under a net 30 every day.  5.5 lbs down.  :excited:

Alcohol is going to be a challenge.  My friends drink beer, I drink beer/wine.  Generally not a fan of liquor... gonna have to teach myself to enjoy vodka/gin I suppose.

Pro Tip:  Halo Top Ice Cream.  Lemon Cake and Peanut Butter Cup flavors.   :wub:
Congrats on the progress! For me, 11g carbs in a 1/2 cup of ice cream seems like too big of a portion of my daily allowance. I've been pretty much filling my 20g allowance per day just with just vegetables. I did make some cookie-dough fat-bomb recipe I found on reddit. Been eating one a day. It's 2g per "cookie" and it does a good job of satisfying a sweet tooth.

 
If you have the money... 

Ketofridge.com

The iced coffee is out of this world. 

The meals are good. 

It's quite expensive but the convenience factor of 2 nights a week is worth it. Never had an issue with delivery. 

The food is pre cooked and vacuum sealed. This isn't like a meal delivery service that you have to cook. 

They accept PayPal. 

 
Congrats on the progress! For me, 11g carbs in a 1/2 cup of ice cream seems like too big of a portion of my daily allowance. I've been pretty much filling my 20g allowance per day just with just vegetables. I did make some cookie-dough fat-bomb recipe I found on reddit. Been eating one a day. It's 2g per "cookie" and it does a good job of satisfying a sweet tooth.
You subtract half of the sugar alcohol too, right?

My math on the lemon was 8.5 net carbs.  14g carbs - 3g fiber - 2.5g (5g/2) sugar alcohol?

 
You subtract half of the sugar alcohol too, right?

My math on the lemon was 8.5 net carbs.  14g carbs - 3g fiber - 2.5g (5g/2) sugar alcohol?
No, wasn't aware that was a thing?  :bag:   That makes is look much better. :thumbup:   Probably puts it on about the same level as the fat bomb (2g per 1/8 cup, or so).   

This diet is sorta complicated.

 
Sugar alcohols are subtracted. 

However it's preferable to stick to sweeteners with low glycemic index. Aspartame, for example is not technically Keto. Not sure what's in HALO top, but if you are using it to get through the first part of Keto, I say go for it. 

Preferred are erythritol and stevia. 

You can get liquid stevia drops at a grocer for your coffee. It's good stuff. 

I order special chewing gum from Amazon w erythritol. It's just you have all that little hidden stuff in "sugar free" stuff that can screw with your body and progress. 

 
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Tecumseh said:
We have a spring break trip coming up next week, so I am going to eat some pizza and mexican and whatnot for a couple days. Ideally, since I should be fully fat adapted at almost 2 months in, I won't have much issue dropping whatever I pick up.

My daughter and I also started training for a 10k. I think that will be a far different challenge, out there trying to run with no glycogen stores.
I have read that Keto is great for long distance. Using fat as a primary fuel gives you more energy. 9 calories per gram of fat as opposed to 4 in carbs

 
If you have the money... 

Ketofridge.com

The iced coffee is out of this world. 

The meals are good. 

It's quite expensive but the convenience factor of 2 nights a week is worth it. Never had an issue with delivery. 

The food is pre cooked and vacuum sealed. This isn't like a meal delivery service that you have to cook. 

They accept PayPal. 
$100 for Chicken Strips for 4 (not the meal just the strips) and 2 shakes.

Yikes.

 
I have a lot of time on my hands today, so one more post. 

I saw one our brothers taking a break from Keto during vacation. You don't have to if you don't want to.
 

Just some Keto friendly places you can find most anywhere:

5 Guys will wrap your burger in a lettuce wrap with no trouble at all (and they do it well, big pieces of lettuce holds it together as good as bun)
Chipotle salad, double meat, sour cream, guac and a small serving of your favorite salsa is roughly 9 net carbs
Einstein Bagels will give you a bacon egg and cheese on a tray
Jersey Mikes Subs is my favorite Keto place.  Get the Sub, not the Tub.  Get it Mike's Way and do NOT skip the hot pepper relish. It's god like.
Jimmy Johns makes the "Unwich" - any of their sandwiches wrapped the entire way in lettuce. I do not support Jimmy Johns for other reasons, but if you have no hang ups about the owner being a trophy hunter, this is an option (yes I'm fully aware this makes me a hypocrite as a Keto dieter).
Buffalo Wild Wings / Wings Stop - Hot, Mild, Garlic Parmesan, Salt and Vinegar, Desert Heat all Keto Friendly and delicious
Wendys - ask for it without a bun. Be prepared for them to not have a clue what you're talking about though.
Zoes Mediterranean Grill - butt loads of Low Carb options and they're popping up everywhere.
Taco Bell - Power Lunch Bowl - skip the beans and rice, double the meat.
Popeyes blackened chicken tenders with ranch and buffalo dipping sauce / green beans on the side
 

Then of course, omelettes for breakfast at any place (IHOP adds pancake batter to their egg mix, make sure to ask them not to do so) and steaks/burgers for dinner or lunch.
If all else fails, tear apart a rotisserie chicken in your hotel room.

 
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$100 for Chicken Strips for 4 (not the meal just the strips) and 2 shakes.

Yikes.
It's ridiculous. It's good and convenient, but extremely expensive. 
I don't blame anyone for not ordering from them, but I can attest to the quality of the product.

 
breakfast: coffee

lunch: protein bar

dinner: steak with bacon; brussel sprouts with bacon; a couple of chocolate squares for dessert.  Oh and, because red wine 

 
Just discovered these a few weeks back. I find them to be good tasting and filling. https://www.amazon.com/Premier-Protein-Shake-Caramel-Count/dp/B01LNQ2STK?th=1

Trying out some protein powders recently. Forgot how much some of these taste like dog#### with the chalky aftertaste. Tried this one (salted caramel) for the 1st time today and was a huge improvement from what I was trying. Many flavors.  https://www.amazon.com/Quest-Nutrition-Protein-Caramel-Packaging/dp/B014R8GW48/ref=sr_1_3_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1522028932&sr=1-3&keywords=salted+caramel+protein+powder    Gotta find out what to add to it that I enjoy to make it more of a meal replacement. 3 carbs per scoop. I use with coconut milk but easily could just use water.

 
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Just discovered these a few weeks back. I find them to be good tasting and filling. https://www.amazon.com/Premier-Protein-Shake-Caramel-Count/dp/B01LNQ2STK?th=1

Trying out some protein powders recently. Forgot how much some of these taste like dog#### with the chalky aftertaste. Tried this one (salted caramel) for the 1st time today and was a huge improvement from what I was trying. Many flavors.  https://www.amazon.com/Quest-Nutrition-Protein-Caramel-Packaging/dp/B014R8GW48/ref=sr_1_3_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1522028932&sr=1-3&keywords=salted+caramel+protein+powder    Gotta find out what to add to it that I enjoy to make it more of a meal replacement. 3 carbs per scoop. I use with coconut milk but easily could just use water.
We are upping fat with moderate protein, right?

Wouldn't you use heavy cream?  We are dodging carbs not fat.

Would we even do protein shakes without upping the fat?

 
We are upping fat with moderate protein, right?

Wouldn't you use heavy cream?  We are dodging carbs not fat.

Would we even do protein shakes without upping the fat?
I will be adding some fat to the protein shake to make it more of a long term meal replacement. Just haven't figured out what yet. Heavy cream may be what I use. I will have to look into it some more. The last couple days I've been doing protein shake, high fat lunch, protein shake for dinner. I'm concentrating on the amount of consumption at this point as I've been eating too much lately (all the foods I've consumed are fine with Keto I just need to eat a lot less to get to where I want to be at)

I've literally eaten the same 4-5 things on Keto over the past year but have to change it up a bit. 

 
About 2.5 weeks in.  Have lost about 12 lbs. but on vacation right now.  Have done pretty well (although way too much alcohol).  Just went out to dinner and was surprised that I was satisfied with Salmon and salad.  It was quite tasty and I was not jealous of others with their fried whatnot...

 
Started Keto last week.

I'm not doing the strips or anything, but I managed to stay under a net 30 every day.  5.5  8 lbs down.  :excited:
This is ridiculous.

eta - the 5.5 was as of saturday (didn't lose 2.5 in 20 hours).

 
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breakfast: coffee

lunch: protein bar

dinner: steak with bacon; brussel sprouts with bacon; a couple of chocolate squares for dessert.  Oh and, because red wine 
I'm no expert, but what you actually eat on this diet seems to matter very little. The most important thing is to count the carbs.

breakfast: coffee - 0g (assuming no sweetener)

lunch: protein bar - 20g (seems about average)

dinner: steak with bacon - 0g; brussel sprouts with bacon - 7g; a couple of chocolate squares - 7g for dessert.  Oh and, because red wine 10g

Some of these numbers may be higher or lower, but you're somewhere around 44g for the day. That would be too many for many people. I know you're a biger fella, so maybe that's OK for you? Have you done the Keto Calculator to find out your number? You could be eating a lot better, more satisfying things for your carbs. Look back through the thread, there's tons of great info/recipes.

 
Quest bars have 4-5 net carbs. Sometimes I'll have one after a workout. Most protein bars have way too much sugar & carbs. I try to stay below 20 net carbs a day, so 20 carbs in one bar is a big no no ( for me). 

I took my second progress pic today and compared it to how I looked a month ago. I can definitely notice a difference. Especially my stomach. The scale moves slowish for me because I lift weights, but I'm still sliming down quite nicely. Just goes to show, it's not all about the number on the scale. 

This week I decided to workout 5 days instead of 3. It's going better than I thought. I don't know how long I can keep it up tho. 

As far as what I miss most on keto, I'm what some call a "meat and potatoes" guy. I've never had much of a sweet tooth, but I love potatoes and bread. I miss potatoes more than anything. Mashed, scalloped, potato salad, chips, fries you name it. 

I want to make a big salad this weekend. Any suggestions? 

 
Also, did you guys know they sell bacon flavored and cheese flavored ranch at the grocery store? It's like they're reading my mind!  :lmao:

 
Gachi said:
Quest bars have 4-5 net carbs. Sometimes I'll have one after a workout. Most protein bars have way too much sugar & carbs. I try to stay below 20 net carbs a day, so 20 carbs in one bar is a big no no ( for me). 

I took my second progress pic today and compared it to how I looked a month ago. I can definitely notice a difference. Especially my stomach. The scale moves slowish for me because I lift weights, but I'm still sliming down quite nicely. Just goes to show, it's not all about the number on the scale. 

This week I decided to workout 5 days instead of 3. It's going better than I thought. I don't know how long I can keep it up tho. 

As far as what I miss most on keto, I'm what some call a "meat and potatoes" guy. I've never had much of a sweet tooth, but I love potatoes and bread. I miss potatoes more than anything. Mashed, scalloped, potato salad, chips, fries you name it. 

I want to make a big salad this weekend. Any suggestions? 
I wish more people understood this.

My wife jumps around to all different kinds of programs.  Recently she signed up to be a Beachbody coach, so she's doing a newish program, 80 day obsession.  She's eating their suggested meal plan, and working out six days a week.  She litters Facebook with "non scale victory" stuff to keep her clients encouraged (stuff like fiting into clothes that were previously too tight, etc).  Then she'll come to me privately and be frustrated she isn't at her "goal weight" yet.  I try to tell her to look in the mirror and see the massive difference, but when you've been looking at the scale for affirmation for 30 years, its a hard cycle to break.

 
SFBayDuck said:
Anybody try these cauliflower pizza crusts?  Any good?
No, but my wife made one for me a little bit ago. Then she made me a crust made out of chicken and parmesan cheese. I never want to have pizza any other way again, including regular bread. It is so good. If interested, I can see where she got the recipe from

 
No, but my wife made one for me a little bit ago. Then she made me a crust made out of chicken and parmesan cheese. I never want to have pizza any other way again, including regular bread. It is so good. If interested, I can see where she got the recipe from
Yes, sounds better than cauliflower. 

 
I wish more people understood this.

My wife jumps around to all different kinds of programs.  Recently she signed up to be a Beachbody coach, so she's doing a newish program, 80 day obsession.  She's eating their suggested meal plan, and working out six days a week.  She litters Facebook with "non scale victory" stuff to keep her clients encouraged (stuff like fiting into clothes that were previously too tight, etc).  Then she'll come to me privately and be frustrated she isn't at her "goal weight" yet.  I try to tell her to look in the mirror and see the massive difference, but when you've been looking at the scale for affirmation for 30 years, its a hard cycle to break.
Beachbody doesn't coach the scale stuff, they mostly coach "inches" using a tape measure of the 8 key points and watching that is more effective.  (hips, waist, chest, 2xarms, 2xthighs, neck)

Their suggested meal plan contains those shakeology things still? that stuff is insane expensive for what it is.  

Most women as long as they aren't like >30%BF will do better to stay at their current weight for 6 months on a re-comp.  

Doing BB HIIT workouts 6x a week is not really a long term solution imo.  That's simply too much volume that way and will have people on road to burnout and injury.  Would always suggest stuff like the Istines programs and the Contreras stuff to follow that with.  

 
Gachi said:
Quest bars have 4-5 net carbs. Sometimes I'll have one after a workout. Most protein bars have way too much sugar & carbs. I try to stay below 20 net carbs a day, so 20 carbs in one bar is a big no no ( for me). 

I took my second progress pic today and compared it to how I looked a month ago. I can definitely notice a difference. Especially my stomach. The scale moves slowish for me because I lift weights, but I'm still sliming down quite nicely. Just goes to show, it's not all about the number on the scale. 

This week I decided to workout 5 days instead of 3. It's going better than I thought. I don't know how long I can keep it up tho. 

As far as what I miss most on keto, I'm what some call a "meat and potatoes" guy. I've never had much of a sweet tooth, but I love potatoes and bread. I miss potatoes more than anything. Mashed, scalloped, potato salad, chips, fries you name it. 

I want to make a big salad this weekend. Any suggestions? 
For the potato texture. Try making a stew, soup or roast and use radishes instead of the potato. The bitter taste cooks away leaving you with a potato like consistency. 

Off the top of my head try something like this... 

(sorry for any mistakes on mobile) 

Lb of ground hot Italian sausage

A garlic clove

Half an onion

A bunch of chicken broth

A package of spinach 

A bunch of radishes

A can of tomatoes

Add to it from there. Probably fresh parsley and parm cheese as toppers. If you're more of a recipe follower, I'll see what I have, I make something like this pretty often. 

 
Beachbody doesn't coach the scale stuff, they mostly coach "inches" using a tape measure of the 8 key points and watching that is more effective.  (hips, waist, chest, 2xarms, 2xthighs, neck)

Their suggested meal plan contains those shakeology things still? that stuff is insane expensive for what it is.  

Most women as long as they aren't like >30%BF will do better to stay at their current weight for 6 months on a re-comp.  

Doing BB HIIT workouts 6x a week is not really a long term solution imo.  That's simply too much volume that way and will have people on road to burnout and injury.  Would always suggest stuff like the Istines programs and the Contreras stuff to follow that with.  
Don't misunderstand me, I'm not a Beachbody pusher.  I think it is classic MLM stuff, so when she told me she signed up to be a coach, I gave her crap.  She said she hopes to just get enough customers to pay for her Shakeology (yes, still a big push from them), which she has done.  :shrug:  Whatever.

I agree that Beachbody doesn't coach the scale stuff, which is why her social media posts don't talk about the scale.  The problem is the scale is a lifetime obsession for a lot of women, and watching a DVD of skinny woman with fake boobs isn't going to shake you of that connection, regardless of success.  That's my complaint.

I can't argue with the results of the program short term.  I did P90X and lost weight, not even eating the meal plan.  Burn out happened for me though, plus injury (don't recall if it was related).  My wife is different, she's one of those crazy people that actully enjoys working out.  Food is her problem though, so if having to be spoon fed (pun intended) what to eat every meal of the day works for her, then power to her.  I don't think that works for most people though.  Maybe if it is a "job" for her to keep it up, and money actually comes in a little bit, then maybe it could actually work long term.  Unfortunately she is friends with one of the top coaches in the entire country, so while she denies it, I think she has some pie in the sky ideas.

 
If they work for you, great, but watch out for the bars and other packaged foods (like Atkins products) that advertise low 'net carbs'. They're sweetening them with sugar alcohols, and not all sugar alcohols are equal. Erythritol is usually fine, but for some people, ones like Maltitol and Sorbitol spike insulin just like sugar and can knock them out of ketosis. 
I bought a box of Atkins bars a month or so ago. They sent me running to the bathroom every time I would eat one. So yeah, no more of those for me. 

 
For the potato texture. Try making a stew, soup or roast and use radishes instead of the potato. The bitter taste cooks away leaving you with a potato like consistency. 

Off the top of my head try something like this... 

(sorry for any mistakes on mobile) 

Lb of ground hot Italian sausage

A garlic clove

Half an onion

A bunch of chicken broth

A package of spinach 

A bunch of radishes

A can of tomatoes

Add to it from there. Probably fresh parsley and parm cheese as toppers. If you're more of a recipe follower, I'll see what I have, I make something like this pretty often. 
I don't think I've ever had radishes. Do they taste anything like turnips? 

 
Gachi said:
I want to make a big salad this weekend. Any suggestions? 
Arugula, diced avocado, red onion (just a little), crumbled bacon, salt-n-vinegar almonds. feta cheese, black olives.

I'm on week 2 of this and this combo is still my favorite. I eat is almost every day. 

 
Ketoconnect.net/recipe/no-carb-pizza/
 

I've also had it with buffalo chicken as the crust. That was good also
Ever had reheated leftovers of this crust?  That's a lot more prep than I prefer to do unless I'm getting multiple meals out of the effort.  I'm curious if this would be as good reheated as well or if the texture don't hold up.

 
Ever had reheated leftovers of this crust?  That's a lot more prep than I prefer to do unless I'm getting multiple meals out of the effort.  I'm curious if this would be as good reheated as well or if the texture don't hold up.
Ive had leftovers and thought they were fine

 
Arugula, diced avocado, red onion (just a little), crumbled bacon, salt-n-vinegar almonds. feta cheese, black olives.

I'm on week 2 of this and this combo is still my favorite. I eat is almost every day. 
I love those salt n vinegar almonds. They have maltodextrin though I think so need to find a way to make my own. 

 
12 pounds down in 12 days.

I'm sure it is a lot of water weight, but this is awesome.

My routine is leaving me ~14g carbs at the end of my day.  So I can grab a couple spoon fulls of Halo Top or a glass of wine in the evenings.  :yes:

 
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While mashed cauliflower isn't as good as mashed potatoes, it's certainly close enough for me and I have no problem eating it instead of the potatoes. My problem is my love affair with bread, and any time we have it for dinner (we're a big garlic bread/texas toast/etc. family) I find it almost impossible to resist. I can get by with low-carb wraps for my sandwiches, low-carb pizza crust, etc, so if I could find something to replace the bread, I'd be pretty dang happy. 

 

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