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Kevin Jones is NOT on PUP - yet! (1 Viewer)

TheBradyBunch

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I know the last thing y'all want to see is another Kevin Jones thread, but seeing as there are 4-5 different threads that I believe contain information that is either wrong or misleading, I thought I'd post this in case there are any last-minute drafters out there.

Kevin Jones is NOT on PUP yet. The earlier Kowalski article that many have referenced as having him on PUP are the opinions of the doctors..who undoubtedly have his best-interests in mind, but also probably have no idea about how PUP works. Everything I've heard is that Martz is putting up a big fight to keep Kevin Jones off PUP arguing that if he comes back even a week earlier, he's more important than the 53rd player they'd keep. In the long-run, it probably makes the most sense to take the cautious approach and PUP him, but that has NOT happened yet - contrary to many reports. Stay tuned...

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2007/...p_for_deba.html

Doctor to Jones: Stay on PUP list

by Tom KowalskiFriday August 31, 2007, 9:33 AM

DETROIT -- A final decision on the short-term future of Kevin Jones must be made by 4 p.m. Saturday.

As the Detroit Lions braintrust gathers at the Allen Park practice facility Friday to begin discussing the final moves in shaping the 53-man roster, the Lions running back will be the focus of debate.

According to a source close to the situation, the doctor and trainers involved in Jones' rehabilitation from Lisfranc surgery on his left foot have -- or soon will -- advise Lions president Matt Millen that Jones should remain on the Physically Unable to Perform list. That would mean Jones would miss the first six weeks of the regular season. Because the Lions have a bye in Week 6, Jones only will miss five games.

According to the source, Jones' foot is structurally sound and has healed nearly 100 percent from the surgery that was performed last December. Dr. Robert Anderson, who performed the surgery, re-examined Jones on Thursday and, according to the source, agreed with the assessment of the Lions medical staff that Jones still isn't ready to play NFL football and should remain on the PUP list. Jones was informed of Dr. Anderson's decision Thursday afternoon.

The concern among the medical staff, according to the source, isn't about Jones' foot, but about other potential problems that could arise with his left ankle, knee, hamstring and hip because of Jones' long layoff. They believe that Jones, who is only 8½ months removed from surgery, needs more time to completely recover.

Here's where the debate comes in.

If Jones stays on the PUP list, he cannot practice with the team and only can do individual drills on the sideline. While Jones can continue to build his stamina and improve his conditioning and overall lower body strength, he can't take part in any padded practices.

Jones, along with some members of the offensive coaching staff, believe if Jones comes off the PUP list now, he can take part in practices and get into better "football shape.'' The Lions can then place Jones on the inactive list on the day of the game until he's ready to play.

By doing so, the theory is that Jones will be ready to be activated and play by the third or fourth game of the season, maybe even the second game.

The issue could come down to whether Millen and coach Rod Marinelli want to use a roster spot on a player whose return to action is unknown. At the moment, the Lions are in relatively good health so sacrificing a spot at the bottom of the roster isn't a big factor. However, there's no telling how long that situation is going to last.

 
As a KJ owner (picked him up in the very late middle roudns, or early late rounds) I HOPE they PUP him. I dont want to lose a whole season... we could get a very nice 8 games if he is on the PUP and heals up.

 
As a KJ owner (picked him up in the very late middle roudns, or early late rounds) I HOPE they PUP him. I dont want to lose a whole season... we could get a very nice 8 games if he is on the PUP and heals up.
This is another area in which I think many KJ owners are wrong. If he's on PUP to start the season, he can't practice with the team. If he comes off at week 6, he still hasn't practiced with the team and certainly won't be in game shape. If he goes on PUP, I think his whole season is basically shot. In fact, I think Martz's biggest argument in keeping him off PUP is not that he'll play in the first 5-6 weeks, but that he'll be able to practice, which would then give him a legit shot to step back into the lineup in the 2nd half and be productive. Just my 2 cents.
 
I thiink Joe B made a great point... given rhetoric that KJs foot is || this close to be healed... it's odd to even engage in the PUP vs non-PUP when the likes of a 70% Torry Holt and hammy-d Moss and a few others are planning on starting week 1. Odd. Unless foots lins-francs are a different story....

 
As a KJ owner (picked him up in the very late middle roudns, or early late rounds) I HOPE they PUP him. I dont want to lose a whole season... we could get a very nice 8 games if he is on the PUP and heals up.
This is another area in which I think many KJ owners are wrong. If he's on PUP to start the season, he can't practice with the team. If he comes off at week 6, he still hasn't practiced with the team and certainly won't be in game shape. If he goes on PUP, I think his whole season is basically shot. In fact, I think Martz's biggest argument in keeping him off PUP is not that he'll play in the first 5-6 weeks, but that he'll be able to practice, which would then give him a legit shot to step back into the lineup in the 2nd half and be productive. Just my 2 cents.
This is my hope, keep him off the PUP and limit him to practices until after the bye week.
 
Interesting approach by the Lions. If they can afford the roster spot, it makes sense to keep Jones off the PUP list so he can practice in pads and be in "football shape" sooner. Also interesting they might activate him in two to four weeks.

 

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