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Kevin Jones to have open workout on June 28th (1 Viewer)

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Free-Agent RB Jones Will Have Open WorkoutVartan Kupelian & Mike O'Hara, Detroit news - [Full Article]Former Detroit Lions RB Kevin Jones has scheduled a workout for all interested teams on June 28. Jones is training at the Saline Recreation Center under the guidance of Dr. D.S. Ping. Ping has trained athletes and worked as an agent for four decades. He is not representing Jones in contract negotiations. "He's progressing excellent," Ping said. "He's doing very, very well." "Five days a week, I've got him in that pool," Ping said. "He's lifting, doing toe raises, light squats. It's more in the aspect of muscular endurance, not heavy lifting."
 
Muscular endurance is fine, but what about power. What is pool work 5 days a week going to do in June when TCs are coming up where he has to run and cut on the field. No one is going to sign him long term.

 
So, I guess the Patriots are still in the wait and see mode.......................

 
One thing I will take note of very closely here is which teams show up to watch him workout.

It will tell you right off which RB's to red flag.

I never understand Mullens but this had to be on that top ten

off season bad move list if Jones is anywhere near playing shape.

 
I never understand Mullens but this had to be on that top ten off season bad move list if Jones is anywhere near playing shape.
He has been available for quite awhile and there aren't many interested parties.
 
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I never understand Mullens but this had to be on that top ten off season bad move list if Jones is anywhere near playing shape.
He has been available for quite awhile and there aren't many interested parties.
I think there are many intereted parties -- but they are simply waiting to see how he heals. Kevin Jones will sign with a team at some point, I bet half the teams in the league would love to have him at such a discounted price.
 
One thing I will take note of very closely here is which teams show up to watch him workout.It will tell you right off which RB's to red flag.
Or just a smart move to add a talented RB to the stable on the cheap?
It might not spell trouble for the incumbant RB this year, but it could be a sign that a team is entertaining the thought of moving on from the current RB they have...just not right away. All in though, there could be a smart franchise or two that are looking to get a very talented RB for a low price tag, while keeping the talent away from some of their competition.
 
A healthy Jones is an upgrade to a handful of current NFL starters. (Arizona/Houston/Chicago/Detroit/Seattle) Someone is going to get very solid backup insurance at RB.

If I'm AZ and Jones shows he's anywhere near healthy come TC, I sign him to a 2-year $6 million type deal.

 
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Craig_MiamiFL said:
A healthy Jones is an upgrade to a handful of current NFL starters. (Arizona/Houston/Chicago/Detroit/Seattle) Someone is going to get very solid backup insurance at RB.If I'm AZ and Jones shows he's anywhere near healthy come TC, I sign him to a 2-year $6 million type deal.
Houston makes so much sense--Ahman Green? Brown? KJ is a huge upgrade, especially long term.
 
TheFanatic said:
ffweasel said:
Buckeyedawgs said:
I never understand Mullens but this had to be on that top ten off season bad move list if Jones is anywhere near playing shape.
He has been available for quite awhile and there aren't many interested parties.
I don't believe he's running just yet. Makes it difficult to rate what he can do as a running back if he can't run....
Maybe they'll create a new position 'standing-in-place back'. 2 years-$6 million seems like a lot for a guy coming off two major injuries and with a questionable amount of talent before said injuries.
 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
A healthy Jones is an upgrade to a handful of current NFL starters. (Arizona/Houston/Chicago/Detroit/Seattle) Someone is going to get very solid backup insurance at RB.If I'm AZ and Jones shows he's anywhere near healthy come TC, I sign him to a 2-year $6 million type deal.
Houston makes so much sense--Ahman Green? Brown? KJ is a huge upgrade, especially long term.
I thought the same thing until they signed Brown. Now I like him signing with AZ.
 
Good lord do people over-rate Kevin Jones talent (Even when healthy).

He's average, not even in the same league talent wise as the top dogs.

 
TheFanatic said:
ffweasel said:
Buckeyedawgs said:
I never understand Mullens but this had to be on that top ten off season bad move list if Jones is anywhere near playing shape.
He has been available for quite awhile and there aren't many interested parties.
I don't believe he's running just yet. Makes it difficult to rate what he can do as a running back if he can't run....
Maybe they'll create a new position 'standing-in-place back'. 2 years-$6 million seems like a lot for a guy coming off two major injuries and with a questionable amount of talent before said injuries.
:lmao:
Good lord do people over-rate Kevin Jones talent (Even when healthy).He's average, not even in the same league talent wise as the top dogs.
:goodposting: Are these the same people that said he'd sign quickly after being released by the Lions awhile back? Yet here he is holding his own personal workout trying to garner some interest from teams. There is a reason franchises aren't falling all over themselves to sign him.
 
TheFanatic said:
ffweasel said:
Buckeyedawgs said:
I never understand Mullens but this had to be on that top ten

off season bad move list if Jones is anywhere near playing shape.
He has been available for quite awhile and there aren't many interested parties.
I don't believe he's running just yet. Makes it difficult to rate what he can do as a running back if he can't run....
Maybe they'll create a new position 'standing-in-place back'. 2 years-$6 million seems like a lot for a guy coming off two major injuries and with a questionable amount of talent before said injuries.
:lmao:
Good lord do people over-rate Kevin Jones talent (Even when healthy).

He's average, not even in the same league talent wise as the top dogs.
:) Are these the same people that said he'd sign quickly after being released by the Lions awhile back? Yet here he is holding his own personal workout trying to garner some interest from teams. There is a reason franchises aren't falling all over themselves to sign him.
Yes, there is a reason. He isn't healthy enough yet. It is definitely not a talent related issue.
 
TheFanatic said:
ffweasel said:
Buckeyedawgs said:
I never understand Mullens but this had to be on that top ten

off season bad move list if Jones is anywhere near playing shape.
He has been available for quite awhile and there aren't many interested parties.
I don't believe he's running just yet. Makes it difficult to rate what he can do as a running back if he can't run....
Maybe they'll create a new position 'standing-in-place back'. 2 years-$6 million seems like a lot for a guy coming off two major injuries and with a questionable amount of talent before said injuries.
:pickle:
Good lord do people over-rate Kevin Jones talent (Even when healthy).

He's average, not even in the same league talent wise as the top dogs.
:thumbup: Are these the same people that said he'd sign quickly after being released by the Lions awhile back? Yet here he is holding his own personal workout trying to garner some interest from teams. There is a reason franchises aren't falling all over themselves to sign him.
Yes, there is a reason. He isn't healthy enough yet. It is definitely not a talent related issue.
Isn't this a classic Catch 22 though? Sign him now if you think that he is all that and just injured for cheap while nobody wants him or sign him just before training camp when he is possibly somewhat recovered and everybody wants him? Good move by Jones and his agent just keeping his name out there as the first phase already passed without interest. We'll have to wait till late June to see who shows at the work-out, but at this point I am doubting it is as many teams as some folks on the board think.
 
TheFanatic said:
ffweasel said:
Buckeyedawgs said:
I never understand Mullens but this had to be on that top ten

off season bad move list if Jones is anywhere near playing shape.
He has been available for quite awhile and there aren't many interested parties.
I don't believe he's running just yet. Makes it difficult to rate what he can do as a running back if he can't run....
Maybe they'll create a new position 'standing-in-place back'. 2 years-$6 million seems like a lot for a guy coming off two major injuries and with a questionable amount of talent before said injuries.
:lmao:
Good lord do people over-rate Kevin Jones talent (Even when healthy).

He's average, not even in the same league talent wise as the top dogs.
:thumbdown: Are these the same people that said he'd sign quickly after being released by the Lions awhile back? Yet here he is holding his own personal workout trying to garner some interest from teams. There is a reason franchises aren't falling all over themselves to sign him.
Yes, there is a reason. He isn't healthy enough yet. It is definitely not a talent related issue.
Isn't this a classic Catch 22 though? Sign him now if you think that he is all that and just injured for cheap while nobody wants him or sign him just before training camp when he is possibly somewhat recovered and everybody wants him? Good move by Jones and his agent just keeping his name out there as the first phase already passed without interest. We'll have to wait till late June to see who shows at the work-out, but at this point I am doubting it is as many teams as some folks on the board think.
I think there will be a lot of teams at the workout. A RB with his ability who can be had pretty cheap, or possibly an incentive laden contract will have plenty of interest. The stupid thing was Millen cutting him. His contract was relatively inexpensive and now the Lions have very little RB depth. He should have kept him as a cheap potential insurance policy.

 
Better than any RB on the Lions roster.
We'll see. Certainly when healthy Jones is a real talent; but that's the issue, is he ever going to be healthy?Ultimately though I suspect Kevin Smith will be very good this year; he could possibly be the top scoring rookie RB depending on whether they can whip that line into shape.
 
ffweasel said:
Buckeyedawgs said:
I never understand Mullens but this had to be on that top ten off season bad move list if Jones is anywhere near playing shape.
He has been available for quite awhile and there aren't many interested parties.
I think there are many intereted parties -- but they are simply waiting to see how he heals. Kevin Jones will sign with a team at some point, I bet half the teams in the league would love to have him at such a discounted price.
There may be many interested parties, but it's the level of interest that I don't think is that high. I highly doubt if a team were truly interested in him that they'd just be "waiting" for so long and risk him signing on with another team. I do agree that Detroit made a horrible mistake letting this guy go when his contract was very team-friendly. But, his injury has to be a real concern if not a single team has stepped up to take him. I'm sure his personal workout will have lots of teams visiting so it will be interesting to see what happens afterwards.
 
So, I guess the Patriots are still in the wait and see mode.......................
:lmao: This wouldn't have been scheduled if there was a deal imminent with NE. Either this means that they weren't sold on him or he wants more money, and those possibilities are equally plausible to me at this point.
 
Time will tell whether Detroit messed up or not. The only thing I can say is the Lions have let quite a few guys go (by trade or by release) that weren't "Rod" type players. High motor guys, good character, etc...you know the drill....guys that eat, sleep and #### football. Not guys who get arrested in strip clubs, get drug suspensions, or guys that look good on paper and can't perform on the field. READ Sean Rogers, Boss Bailey, Teddy Lehman, Kalimba Edwards, and the list goes on.

Kevin Jones was actually the epitome of a "Rod" type player. So his release leads me to believe they 1) had enough of the injuries and 2) Didn't think he was going to be able to make a impact in 2008....even at the low cap number.

Whether Marinelli's plan works or not is anybody's guess, and you can take what you want from it based on the Lions past performance....but at least they are trying to change the losing atmosphere in Detroit and move on with the guys he thinks can help with that.

 
another Kevin Jones thread . . . what else is new??

there is no one outside Detroit or FF land that truly believes that Kevin Jones is more than an average back . . .

oh well, we will just keep shooting hoops with the townies . . .

livin a dream . . .

 
I actually think the workout "showcase" is a good idea. If he got a very minimal offer from the Pats, then it may be a good ploy to get them to "up" their offer before the workout, just in case it is good, because if he works out well, he would command a solid salary and they may lose him.

 
I never understand Mullens but this had to be on that top ten

off season bad move list if Jones is anywhere near playing shape.
He has been available for quite awhile and there aren't many interested parties.
I don't believe he's running just yet. Makes it difficult to rate what he can do as a running back if he can't run....
Maybe they'll create a new position 'standing-in-place back'. 2 years-$6 million seems like a lot for a guy coming off two major injuries and with a questionable amount of talent before said injuries.
:lmao:
Good lord do people over-rate Kevin Jones talent (Even when healthy).

He's average, not even in the same league talent wise as the top dogs.
:rolleyes: Are these the same people that said he'd sign quickly after being released by the Lions awhile back? Yet here he is holding his own personal workout trying to garner some interest from teams. There is a reason franchises aren't falling all over themselves to sign him.
Yes, there is a reason. He isn't healthy enough yet. It is definitely not a talent related issue.
Isn't this a classic Catch 22 though? Sign him now if you think that he is all that and just injured for cheap while nobody wants him or sign him just before training camp when he is possibly somewhat recovered and everybody wants him? Good move by Jones and his agent just keeping his name out there as the first phase already passed without interest. We'll have to wait till late June to see who shows at the work-out, but at this point I am doubting it is as many teams as some folks on the board think.
I think there will be a lot of teams at the workout. A RB with his ability who can be had pretty cheap, or possibly an incentive laden contract will have plenty of interest. The stupid thing was Millen cutting him. His contract was relatively inexpensive and now the Lions have very little RB depth. He should have kept him as a cheap potential insurance policy.
For Millen, doing the stupid thing is par for the course. However, there is a certain crazy logic to it. You sign a useless bunghole for a lot of money, and compensate for that by letting someone go who is possibly valuable and costs you very little. If Millen had the winning ticket in a lottery he'd sell it to some bum for $1.25 and brag about the 25% profit he made.
 
I'm very confident in a guy I can draft for the equivalent of a 20th round draft pick. How many of those picks are worth anything? How much are those picks worth if they pan out?

 
Since Jones was drafed, I've stood by that he's the type of back who will play well but likely have a short career due to injuries. His work effort has proved better than I expected. It wouldnt surprise me to see him come back again and do well. I dont think he's a long term answer for any team though. His best bet is to get on a team with a short term need to fill. There are a couple teams now and there will be a couple more before the season starts. I like his attitude and approach to his position.

 

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