Westbrook recovered very well.Jones is recovering from an ACL injury.Looks like Lis Franc injuries are potentially to RBs what Achilles Heel injuries are to QBs.Purely from memory here - LF has taken down Chris Brown, Michael Bennett and Kevin Jones. Is that accurate or am I misremembering?
KJ has recovered from the lis Franc. To my knowledge Michael Bennett never had that injury.KJ will be fine and will be starting for someone this year, but we won't likely know until June. I don't think he will be signing anytime soon.Looks like Lis Franc injuries are potentially to RBs what Achilles Heel injuries are to QBs.Purely from memory here - LF has taken down Chris Brown, Michael Bennett and Kevin Jones. Is that accurate or am I misremembering?
While I think he is talented enough, I don't think any team counts on him to be starter. Only time will tell.KJ will be fine and will be starting for someone this year, but we won't likely know until June. I don't think he will be signing anytime soon.
Last I heard chicago was interested in forte' and charles. Also I heard they plan to draft a rb in the 2ndI can only assume most teams want to wait and see how the draft shakes out...I really hope Chicago gives him a call.
I have been hearing that as well. I just don't love the Idea. Considering Chicago needs to draft a QB of the future, I really hope they look Henne or Flacco (maybe Brohm?) in rd 2 and grab a RB in rd 3. IMO the drop off is huge between QBs in rd 2 to rd 3, and the RB drop off is almost non existent from rds 2 to 3.I would like the Kevin Jones move because it would allow for more flexability come draft day.Last I heard chicago was interested in forte' and charles. Also I heard they plan to draft a rb in the 2ndI can only assume most teams want to wait and see how the draft shakes out...I really hope Chicago gives him a call.
The situations are not really similar at all. Most concerns about Dominick Davis was specualtion when he was being selected in the first 4 rounds of dynasty drafts two years ago. Kevin Jones was cut by the Lions, which paints a clearer picture. I dont think anybody in their right mind will consider him in the first 3-4 rounds of a intitial dynasty draft.I remember the unknowns around this time last year (or was it two) with Dom Williams. You saw him being selected in the 3rd and 4th rounds in dynasty leagues and now all the owners are seriously regretting it.K.Jones gives me that same feeling. I for one will be staying far away from him.
Brian WestbrookWarrick DunnDuce StaleyGarrison HearstKevin Jones (ACL has him out currently)Donald Driver also had it.Before they came up with the Lisfranc name for the injury, it was grouped in with "turf toe."Looks like Lis Franc injuries are potentially to RBs what Achilles Heel injuries are to QBs.Purely from memory here - LF has taken down Chris Brown, Michael Bennett and Kevin Jones. Is that accurate or am I misremembering?
There might be a team that drafts a RB that does not live up to expectations. Example, Green Bay went out and got Ryan Grant after they drafted Brandon Jackson in the second. The RB that went one pick before Jackson, Kenny Irons, did not make it through training camp before blowing his ACL. Injuries are unpredicable. You will never know what team will need a Kevin Jones by the start of or during the season.Someone please explain why KJ has any chance to start this year?? Exactly which team would pick him up to start???
Jones was cut/released, so I don't see how there is an injury settlement to negotiate after the fact.Someone in another Kevin Jones thread mentioned that he's probably reaching an injury settlement with the Lions. I don't know if that's true, but it makes sense why he hasn't been doing any visits.
Good point. I think he reached one before he was cut... but maybe not. Regardless, I don't think any teams are looking for his services until after the draft- see how much salary cap they have left, what their needs are, who might get hurt in camp...He might sign with a team that can put him in a RBBC roleNE, CHI, DAL might be possible destinations for himJones was cut/released, so I don't see how there is an injury settlement to negotiate after the fact.Someone in another Kevin Jones thread mentioned that he's probably reaching an injury settlement with the Lions. I don't know if that's true, but it makes sense why he hasn't been doing any visits.
had KJ in 2 dynasty leagues since he was a rookie. traded him in one and trying to trade him in the other. tried of him always being hurt. buyers bewareMr. Peterson said:I remember the unknowns around this time last year (or was it two) with Dom Williams. You saw him being selected in the 3rd and 4th rounds in dynasty leagues and now all the owners are seriously regretting it.
K.Jones gives me that same feeling. I for one will be staying far away from him.
The Lisfranc injury had nothing to do with the torn ACL. His cleat was planted in the turf and another player hit the side of his knee. No knee can withstand that. He was never 100% last year. He was so sore after games that he had to take pain killers and rarely practiced all year.I haven't heard anything here about KJ. I assume teams will wait until after the draft to do anything. My guess is it will be a team that is looking for a RB and doesn't get the one they want. Someone above mentioned Arizona and that would be a great fit.I am still not so certain he was totally healed from the lisfranc. I think maybe the lisfranc caused to to possibly change his running style, even ever so slightly possibly making him more likely to have other leg injuries (ACL, MCL, PCL, hammy etc......). I am curious to see if he continues to have leg problems after this.
No. LisFranc injuries were named after Napoleon's field surgeon. So, Lisfranc predates the NFL and "turf toe".Riffraff said:Brian WestbrookWarrick DunnDuce StaleyGarrison HearstKevin Jones (ACL has him out currently)Donald Driver also had it.Before they came up with the Lisfranc name for the injury, it was grouped in with "turf toe."Looks like Lis Franc injuries are potentially to RBs what Achilles Heel injuries are to QBs.Purely from memory here - LF has taken down Chris Brown, Michael Bennett and Kevin Jones. Is that accurate or am I misremembering?
Pretty wishful thinking for a back coming off his second major injury in two years. His ACL injury was late in the year. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't sign till late and never regains starting status.KJ has recovered from the lis Franc. To my knowledge Michael Bennett never had that injury.KJ will be fine and will be starting for someone this year, but we won't likely know until June. I don't think he will be signing anytime soon.Looks like Lis Franc injuries are potentially to RBs what Achilles Heel injuries are to QBs.Purely from memory here - LF has taken down Chris Brown, Michael Bennett and Kevin Jones. Is that accurate or am I misremembering?
mcjc4 said:I would hope the Cardinals would give him a serious look if he looks to be recovering. Edge may have reached the Edge of his career and a healthy Jones would add a serious punch to what should be a very potent offense.
He's very talented when healthy and I can see a team who doesn't have a clear starter at rb, like denver or chicago, taking a flyer on himSomeone please explain why KJ has any chance to start this year?? Exactly which team would pick him up to start???
Pretty wishful thinking for a back coming off his second major injury in two years. His ACL injury was late in the year. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't sign till late and never regains starting status.KJ has recovered from the lis Franc. To my knowledge Michael Bennett never had that injury.KJ will be fine and will be starting for someone this year, but we won't likely know until June. I don't think he will be signing anytime soon.Looks like Lis Franc injuries are potentially to RBs what Achilles Heel injuries are to QBs.Purely from memory here - LF has taken down Chris Brown, Michael Bennett and Kevin Jones. Is that accurate or am I misremembering?
We are talking about Millen here.Else why not wait until after the draft?
The Taylor comment doesn't help the rest of your argument. Regardless, KJ is simply a wait and see in my book. The fact that he was released cannot be ignored, but you always have to qualify what Detroit does in relation to sanity. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Jones heals well and contributes mightily late this season. I also wouldn't be surprised if he never starts again.For all of you pimping KJ. He will never be a #1 RB in the NFL. He gets hurt WAY to much. I am a Cowboy fan and I hope the Cowboys stay away. I am a KJ dynasty owner and I am trying to move him but most of the owners in my league are smart and are not willing to give up much. He is the next Fred Taylor.
I'm sure K.J. would take a pro bowl after he's thirty...He is the next Fred Taylor.
didn’t he make the pro bowl b/c another RB did not play due to injury. Taylor was hurt early in his career just like KJ that is the comparison.hutchins929 said:I'm sure K.J. would take a pro bowl after he's thirty...He is the next Fred Taylor.Bad compairison if you were trying to dog him!
But despite the injuries he's put up seven 1100+ , three 1300+ and one 1500+ yard seasons. He's 31 and has 10,700 career yards even with having just 116 yards in 2001 (in two games) due to injury.Taylor proved that despite injuries you can have a great career.didn’t he make the pro bowl b/c another RB did not play due to injury. Taylor was hurt early in his career just like KJ that is the comparison.hutchins929 said:I'm sure K.J. would take a pro bowl after he's thirty...He is the next Fred Taylor.Bad compairison if you were trying to dog him!
You contradict yourself (last I checked, FT is still the starter in JAX), but since I have him in my league I would LOVE KJ to be the next Fred Taylor.For all of you pimping KJ. He will never be a #1 RB in the NFL. He gets hurt WAY to much.
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He is the next Fred Taylor.
is was and will be RBBC. what does starting mean? JJ started for the cowboys but Barber was the better RBYou contradict yourself (last I checked, FT is still the starter in JAX), but since I have him in my league I would LOVE KJ to be the next Fred Taylor.For all of you pimping KJ. He will never be a #1 RB in the NFL. He gets hurt WAY to much.
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He is the next Fred Taylor.
Sure you do. But that in no way negates the fact that Taylor has lead his team in rushing the past 6 seasons, including the last two with MJD on the roster.Taylor is a very good RB. If you were trying to knock Jones by comparing him to Taylor, you failed miserably. I'm guessing at least 90% of the RBs in the NFL would love to have accomplished what Taylor has accomplished.is was and will be RBBC. what does starting mean? JJ started for the cowboys but Barber was the better RBYou contradict yourself (last I checked, FT is still the starter in JAX), but since I have him in my league I would LOVE KJ to be the next Fred Taylor.For all of you pimping KJ. He will never be a #1 RB in the NFL. He gets hurt WAY to much.
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He is the next Fred Taylor.
You have to admit, MDJ has prolonged Taylor’s career and helped him stay healthy
Sure you do. But that in no way negates the fact that Taylor has lead his team in rushing the past 6 seasons, including the last two with MJD on the roster.Taylor is a very good RB. If you were trying to knock Jones by comparing him to Taylor, you failed miserably. I'm guessing at least 90% of the RBs in the NFL would love to have accomplished what Taylor has accomplished.
Once again my only comparison is both had a lot of injuries the first 4 years of their NFL career.KJ missed around 10 games his first 4 years-seems like moreSure you do. But that in no way negates the fact that Taylor has lead his team in rushing the past 6 seasons, including the last two with MJD on the roster.Taylor is a very good RB. If you were trying to knock Jones by comparing him to Taylor, you failed miserably. I'm guessing at least 90% of the RBs in the NFL would love to have accomplished what Taylor has accomplished.is was and will be RBBC. what does starting mean? JJ started for the cowboys but Barber was the better RBYou contradict yourself (last I checked, FT is still the starter in JAX), but since I have him in my league I would LOVE KJ to be the next Fred Taylor.For all of you pimping KJ. He will never be a #1 RB in the NFL. He gets hurt WAY to much.
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He is the next Fred Taylor.
You have to admit, MDJ has prolonged Taylor’s career and helped him stay healthy
True.I guess I should have said the NFL didn't always appear to diagnose Lisfranc injuries, they called them Turf Toe injuries.I don't know if they didn't know any better or if they just kept it simple for the fans.No. LisFranc injuries were named after Napoleon's field surgeon. So, Lisfranc predates the NFL and "turf toe".Brian WestbrookWarrick DunnDuce StaleyGarrison HearstKevin Jones (ACL has him out currently)Donald Driver also had it.Before they came up with the Lisfranc name for the injury, it was grouped in with "turf toe."Looks like Lis Franc injuries are potentially to RBs what Achilles Heel injuries are to QBs.Purely from memory here - LF has taken down Chris Brown, Michael Bennett and Kevin Jones. Is that accurate or am I misremembering?