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Kevin Smith kicked to the curb (1 Viewer)

Hoss_Cartwright

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Lions set Kevin Smith free, decline to tender The Lions failed to extend a tender to potential restricted free agent RB Kevin Smith.

The news comes as a surprise after a report just a week ago that the Lions still "really like" Smith. "I've been hurt the last two years so to me it was more of a business decision," Smith said in response. "They did what they had to and I'll do what I have to do." Unlike the majority of players getting the tender, Smith would not have hit the open market as a three-year vet. That changes now, as Smith is free to sign with another team once a CBA is finalized

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/201326/lions-set-kevin-smith-free-decline-to-tender

 
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Too bad they couldn't keep him around as a change of pace to Best. Smith can catch and has a great attitude. The guy just wants to compete. He'll never be a burner or a #1, but I think he's a great #2.

I'd take him over a 30/31 year old Maurice Morris any day of the week.

 
Good for Kevin. I think he'll be good (not great) in this league for a while.

Soooo they're drafting a RB, round 2? I still think Ingram in 1 is a possibility, despite the flack I received already for it.

 
Anyone think the Dolphins is a possibility if they fail to land D'Angelo Williams? They are looking to get younger at the position and Smith played his college ball in Flordia. While Smith isn't a dyanmic talent he has show the ability to run at this level and is a good pass catcher out of the backfield. He could at least be a part of a decent RBBC if they draft a mid to late round rookie as well.

 
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'Bri said:
Good for Kevin. I think he'll be good (not great) in this league for a while.

Soooo they're drafting a RB, round 2? I still think Ingram in 1 is a possibility, despite the flack I received already for it.
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'Bri said:
Good for Kevin. I think he'll be good (not great) in this league for a while.

Soooo they're drafting a RB, round 2? I still think Ingram in 1 is a possibility, despite the flack I received already for it.
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Why? Did anyone think NO was going to take Deuce McCallister when they had Ricky? Or Carolina taking Stewart when the had DWill? Or the Colts taking Donald Brown when they had Addai? Each case is a team taking a 1st rounder when they already have another YOUNG first rounder on the roster. Ingram is the anti-Best, and the two would complement each other well...
 
Smith should be a target for Miami....haha i would start trying to dish out those late 2011 2nd rounders and those early 3rd's to try to snag him in case he goes somewhere worth while. But also he could still resign with Detroit.

 
Smith should be a target for Miami....haha i would start trying to dish out those late 2011 2nd rounders and those early 3rd's to try to snag him in case he goes somewhere worth while. But also he could still resign with Detroit.
He is already released, how can he resign? :popcorn:
 
'Bri said:
Good for Kevin. I think he'll be good (not great) in this league for a while.

Soooo they're drafting a RB, round 2? I still think Ingram in 1 is a possibility, despite the flack I received already for it.
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Why? Did anyone think NO was going to take Deuce McCallister when they had Ricky? Or Carolina taking Stewart when the had DWill? Or the Colts taking Donald Brown when they had Addai? Each case is a team taking a 1st rounder when they already have another YOUNG first rounder on the roster. Ingram is the anti-Best, and the two would complement each other well...
1. They can find a complimentary back for Best in the later rounds. 2. They have bigger needs, obviously.

3. Ingram's combine numbers weren't exactly jaw-dropping.

4. Could easily find someone through FA. Plenty of solid options look like they'll be available.

 
Anyone think the Dolphins is a possibility if they fail to land D'Angelo Williams? They are looking to get younger at the position and Smith played his college ball in Flordia. While Smith isn't a dyanmic talent he has show the ability to run at this level and is a good pass catcher out of the backfield. He could at least be a part of a decent RBBC if they draft a mid to late round rookie as well.
From mid January: Lions' Kevin Smith Tells Dolphins 'Come Get Me'Whether or not they will :lmao: , but he seems to want to play there at least.

 
'Bri said:
Good for Kevin. I think he'll be good (not great) in this league for a while.

Soooo they're drafting a RB, round 2? I still think Ingram in 1 is a possibility, despite the flack I received already for it.
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Why? Did anyone think NO was going to take Deuce McCallister when they had Ricky? Or Carolina taking Stewart when the had DWill? Or the Colts taking Donald Brown when they had Addai? Each case is a team taking a 1st rounder when they already have another YOUNG first rounder on the roster. Ingram is the anti-Best, and the two would complement each other well...
What he said plus the Titans drafting RBs at surprising rate while Schwartz was there. They got flack for it and now have CJ whom many would call their entire offense in that exaggerated context.I don't think there's a single player that can make as big an impact. There are players that would be nice to have, an essential piece of the puzzle for them, but Ingram brings them so much instantly.

 
'Frankbot said:
Anyone think the Dolphins is a possibility if they fail to land D'Angelo Williams? They are looking to get younger at the position and Smith played his college ball in Flordia. While Smith isn't a dyanmic talent he has show the ability to run at this level and is a good pass catcher out of the backfield. He could at least be a part of a decent RBBC if they draft a mid to late round rookie as well.
From mid January: Lions' Kevin Smith Tells Dolphins 'Come Get Me'Whether or not they will :angry: , but he seems to want to play there at least.
I like that. Tampering rules probably make players and GMs nervous about this sort of stuff, but it'd be cool if more players did that.
 
'Bri said:
Good for Kevin. I think he'll be good (not great) in this league for a while.

Soooo they're drafting a RB, round 2? I still think Ingram in 1 is a possibility, despite the flack I received already for it.
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Why? Did anyone think NO was going to take Deuce McCallister when they had Ricky? Or Carolina taking Stewart when the had DWill? Or the Colts taking Donald Brown when they had Addai? Each case is a team taking a 1st rounder when they already have another YOUNG first rounder on the roster. Ingram is the anti-Best, and the two would complement each other well...
What he said plus the Titans drafting RBs at surprising rate while Schwartz was there. They got flack for it and now have CJ whom many would call their entire offense in that exaggerated context.I don't think there's a single player that can make as big an impact. There are players that would be nice to have, an essential piece of the puzzle for them, but Ingram brings them so much instantly.
CJ was 1.24 and the Titans didn't have a good back despite drafting others in the 2nd.

Deuce was 1.23, Ricky had missed 10 games in 2 seasons and the Saints were otherwise strong.

Donald Brown was 1.27, Addai was coming off a 500 yard rushing season and the Colts had a very strong team.

Stew was 1.13 and the Panthers had other needs so that's one relevant example. I doubt the Lions want to follow the Panthers example.

 
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'Frankbot said:
'Bri said:
Good for Kevin. I think he'll be good (not great) in this league for a while.

Soooo they're drafting a RB, round 2? I still think Ingram in 1 is a possibility, despite the flack I received already for it.
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Why? Did anyone think NO was going to take Deuce McCallister when they had Ricky? Or Carolina taking Stewart when the had DWill? Or the Colts taking Donald Brown when they had Addai? Each case is a team taking a 1st rounder when they already have another YOUNG first rounder on the roster. Ingram is the anti-Best, and the two would complement each other well...
1. They can find a complimentary back for Best in the later rounds. 2. They have bigger needs, obviously.

3. Ingram's combine numbers weren't exactly jaw-dropping.

4. Could easily find someone through FA. Plenty of solid options look like they'll be available.
5. The Lions are not as dumb as they use to be. Why draft a guy in the 1st if you aren't going to make him a 3 down back. I don't see the Lions going that way. They take a guy later. Any team that takes a RB these days and has him split time, better be getting some sort of take it to the house guy. Otherwise they are wasting their #1 pick on a part time player.
 
'Bri said:
Good for Kevin. I think he'll be good (not great) in this league for a while.

Soooo they're drafting a RB, round 2? I still think Ingram in 1 is a possibility, despite the flack I received already for it.
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Why? Did anyone think NO was going to take Deuce McCallister when they had Ricky? Or Carolina taking Stewart when the had DWill? Or the Colts taking Donald Brown when they had Addai? Each case is a team taking a 1st rounder when they already have another YOUNG first rounder on the roster. Ingram is the anti-Best, and the two would complement each other well...
What he said plus the Titans drafting RBs at surprising rate while Schwartz was there. They got flack for it and now have CJ whom many would call their entire offense in that exaggerated context.I don't think there's a single player that can make as big an impact. There are players that would be nice to have, an essential piece of the puzzle for them, but Ingram brings them so much instantly.
CJ was 1.24 and the Titans didn't have a good back despite drafting others in the 2nd.

Deuce was 1.23, Ricky had missed 10 games in 2 seasons and the Saints were otherwise strong.

Donald Brown was 1.27, Addai was coming off a 500 yard rushing season and the Colts had a very strong team.

Stew was 1.13 and the Panthers had other needs so that's one relevant example. I doubt the Lions want to follow the Panthers example.
I think you're reaching.Young Ricky was a fine RB. Trading an entire draft and the ganja man stuff didn't help his public persona, but young Ricky was quite a runner.

Lendale was beaten up on these boards but he had like 1100 yards rushing in his first full season. That offseason he put on two million pounds and everyone got upset, but still 1100 in your first year as a starting RB is pretty good.

ETA that's not to say that I'm not reaching by suggesting they take Ingram. I mean it would take some nerve and all. Teams are more methodical on draft day than determined.

 
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5. The Lions are not as dumb as they use to be. Why draft a guy in the 1st if you aren't going to make him a 3 down back. I don't see the Lions going that way. They take a guy later. Any team that takes a RB these days and has him split time, better be getting some sort of take it to the house guy. Otherwise they are wasting their #1 pick on a part time player.
This draft is not strong in RBs but in third down back types. As a rookie, Best proved he can be a third down back (see rec stats). People are wanting more from him. They don't need another third down back. They may (this debate) need a sled dog.
 
'Frankbot said:
Anyone think the Dolphins is a possibility if they fail to land D'Angelo Williams? They are looking to get younger at the position and Smith played his college ball in Flordia. While Smith isn't a dyanmic talent he has show the ability to run at this level and is a good pass catcher out of the backfield. He could at least be a part of a decent RBBC if they draft a mid to late round rookie as well.
From mid January: Lions' Kevin Smith Tells Dolphins 'Come Get Me'Whether or not they will :lmao: , but he seems to want to play there at least.
Wouldn't be shocked if he signs in Miami. He played hs ball down there at Southridge.
 
'Bri said:
Good for Kevin. I think he'll be good (not great) in this league for a while.

Soooo they're drafting a RB, round 2? I still think Ingram in 1 is a possibility, despite the flack I received already for it.
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Why? Did anyone think NO was going to take Deuce McCallister when they had Ricky? Or Carolina taking Stewart when the had DWill? Or the Colts taking Donald Brown when they had Addai? Each case is a team taking a 1st rounder when they already have another YOUNG first rounder on the roster. Ingram is the anti-Best, and the two would complement each other well...
What he said plus the Titans drafting RBs at surprising rate while Schwartz was there. They got flack for it and now have CJ whom many would call their entire offense in that exaggerated context.I don't think there's a single player that can make as big an impact. There are players that would be nice to have, an essential piece of the puzzle for them, but Ingram brings them so much instantly.
CJ was 1.24 and the Titans didn't have a good back despite drafting others in the 2nd.

Deuce was 1.23, Ricky had missed 10 games in 2 seasons and the Saints were otherwise strong.

Donald Brown was 1.27, Addai was coming off a 500 yard rushing season and the Colts had a very strong team.

Stew was 1.13 and the Panthers had other needs so that's one relevant example. I doubt the Lions want to follow the Panthers example.
I think you're reaching.Young Ricky was a fine RB. Trading an entire draft and the ganja man stuff didn't help his public persona, but young Ricky was quite a runner.

Lendale was beaten up on these boards but he had like 1100 yards rushing in his first full season. That offseason he put on two million pounds and everyone got upset, but still 1100 in your first year as a starting RB is pretty good.

ETA that's not to say that I'm not reaching by suggesting they take Ingram. I mean it would take some nerve and all. Teams are more methodical on draft day than determined.
Ricky might be a fair comparison here, but Deuce fell to a point where he was BPA. Ingram won't be BPA at the Lions pick. Fair enough on White, I just remember not liking his play and lack of playmaking ability. The Titans needed a spark on offense, their defense was strong enough to contend but their offense sucked. The Lions aren't in that position.

I won't say that it's impossible, but it's not that they already have Best that makes it a bad pick, it's that they have other more pressing needs, like Defense or OT.

 
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3. Ingram's combine numbers weren't exactly jaw-dropping.
That 10 yard burst stat was impressive to me. I don't know re jaw dropping but it was impressive nonetheless.I was impressed with how he acted. I am aware that the camera was following him and hundreds(?) of other potential NFLers were not being followed so closely. However, I haven't seen many college kids that methodical and business-like about their warmup. That rolling pin thing on his thighs, the serious focused look getting his mind set...there was plenty that successful NFL players do. Most college kids I see have parts of his warmup but it's not that intense looking. None of this would replace ability and game film and all the rest, I just figure he earned some fictitious intangible point that day.
 

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