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Or the opposite can happen. He could play well against those defenses and carry that over the rest of the season. Its called the Steve Slaton Effect.The only thing i am worried about is that he survives the first five games without injury, loss of confidence, and/or loss of team support. Brutal schedule to begin the yearNOMINWAS@CHIPITIt is called the Chris Perry Effect.
Who knows for sure that those defenses are all that. It's a new year. Detroit's glaring weakness was its defense. Kevin Smith could put up plenty of fantasy points against NO, MIN, WAS, and CHI no problem.The only thing i am worried about is that he survives the first five games without injury, loss of confidence, and/or loss of team support. Brutal schedule to begin the year
He got injured repeatedly?
Well since he finished top 20 (18th) last season and wasn't even the starter for the first 6 weeks that is a no brainer IMO. Lock him up for 300 touches and upside just in the top 10. Loving him in the mid 3rd round IF he's there. And in my main redraft (lions homer) league I'm not counting on it.Agree on the view he'll have top 10 ADP next season.
I had first pick in my re-draft and took him at 3.1.
That's the way I see it. Rookie QB, bad O-Line, bad D. These are not good variables for his Fantasy or NFL success in 2009. In 2010, if they have a 2nd year QB that played well his 1st year but has some more to go, Calvin, an improved O-Line and D from the draft and FA and he could be a monster...
And u know this how?Opportunity wins championships and he will easily touch the ball 350+ times.....
How do I know what? That he doesn't have elite athleticism? That's common knowledge, look at his combine numbers. I don't know what you are trying to say really, I thought I was giving him a compliment.
Really, did u say its common knowledge! r u kidding me, lolYou said he dont have athleticism?How do I know what? That he doesn't have elite athleticism? That's common knowledge, look at his combine numbers. I don't know what you are trying to say really, I thought I was giving him a compliment.
Combine numbers and TD's are not the same thing... A guy can run a 4.7 40 at the combine and still punch it in from the 1.How are you still on this board? Haven't you worn out your welcome already?Really, did u say its common knowledge! r u kidding me, lolYou said he dont have athleticism?How do I know what? That he doesn't have elite athleticism? That's common knowledge, look at his combine numbers. I don't know what you are trying to say really, I thought I was giving him a compliment.
How would you know, are u the final say on whos athletic or not?
And since when has numbers proved athleticism? Lendale got 15 TD's, so he must have good athletism.
Ok, you are not understanding. I said he doesn't have elite athleticism like Steven Jackson. He doesn't. I didn't say anything about him not putting up good stats. I don't think I can gain anything (besides a headache) from your posts so I'm putting you on ignore, have a good one.Really, did u say its common knowledge! r u kidding me, lolYou said he dont have athleticism?How do I know what? That he doesn't have elite athleticism? That's common knowledge, look at his combine numbers. I don't know what you are trying to say really, I thought I was giving him a compliment.
How would you know, are u the final say on whos athletic or not?
And since when has numbers proved athleticism? Lendale got 15 TD's, so he must have good athletism.
Everyone in the NFL is by definition an elite athelete. You don't make it to the NFL level without it. Players like Troy Brown and Tom Brady were once louded as comparatively poor atheletes. Both ended up having great carreers and stellar fantasy seasons.FWIW combine numbers are a friggin stupid way to judge talent. You really think that a few tenths of a second in a short dash makes a big difference? We can't even time that very accurately. The combine is useful for putting players through their paces and seeing who is in overall good condition and responds well to stress. It's not the be-all end-all of assessing talent.How do I know what? That he doesn't have elite athleticism? That's common knowledge, look at his combine numbers. I don't know what you are trying to say really, I thought I was giving him a compliment.
I didn't think I had to preface my statement by saying "For an NFL RB" he doesn't have elite athleticism. It's not a question whether he is as good an athlete as Steven Jackson. He is not. Just like it's not a question that Troy Brown is not as good an athlete as Randy Moss. I never said anything about stats or having careers. As far as combine numbers...they are a good way to judge athleticism, not talent. Talent and athleticism are two different things, sometimes they hinge on one another, sometimes they don't. Again, I never said anything about talent in my original post.Everyone in the NFL is by definition an elite athelete. You don't make it to the NFL level without it. Players like Troy Brown and Tom Brady were once louded as comparatively poor atheletes. Both ended up having great carreers and stellar fantasy seasons.FWIW combine numbers are a friggin stupid way to judge talent. You really think that a few tenths of a second in a short dash makes a big difference? We can't even time that very accurately. The combine is useful for putting players through their paces and seeing who is in overall good condition and responds well to stress. It's not the be-all end-all of assessing talent.How do I know what? That he doesn't have elite athleticism? That's common knowledge, look at his combine numbers. I don't know what you are trying to say really, I thought I was giving him a compliment.
How is this different from last year? The only difference is that he is more experienced, the coaching staff has shown an increased confidence in him and I have read nothing that indicates that he wont see a fairly significant bump in touches. Unless you think he is going to run at 3 yards per carry, I dont see how he doesnt improve upon his rookie year, where he finished as RB18.
Exactly. Lol.
As a previous poster mentioned, how is that different from last year? The big difference is actually a positive in that this year he's gets the majority of carriesall season (barring injury) and last year that only happened for the last eight games.I'm not ready to say that he's a top 12 RB, but I consider last years stats to be the floor for him. I think the ranking of him at RB 14-16 is a reasonableexpectation.
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And if you look at just the second half, he was RB11.There's a little too much fear of drafting Lions in here. They scored 28 TDs last season and there's not much reason to think the offense has gotten worse.
I have them ranked closely. The reason someone MIGHT take Thomas over Smith is because Pierre's upside in that offense is significantly higher.
How does catching 3-5 screen passes a game add up to 44 catches on the season?
16x3 = 48 - hence i made a conservative estimate of production....but do think he has the potential to surpass that by 10-25 catches. So I made my projection based on the low end of what I think will happen...CRAZY I know....
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