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Pretty soon, somebody will start a thread about which Big Four RB to choose first: A.Foster, R.Rice, L.McCoy or K.Smith.

Personally, I'd prefer the No. 4 draft position and take which ever one falls to me. ;-)

 
This is just another reason I dislike late drafts. I'd rather take my chances with a preseason injury and be able to get my sleepers while they're still, you know, asleep. :shrug: Oh well.

 
Smith is a big target of mine when I go Rodgers or non-RB in the 1st round. I like to grab him as a 5th/6th round RB2 as a guy I know I can throw out there weeks 1 and 2 and then worry about that RB2 slot from there.

Mocking from 3 for my Money League (12 tm, PPR, 2RB/3WR) when I go Rodgers typically looks something like this:

1.3 A. Rodgers

2.10 S.Jackson/D. Sproles

3.3 W. Welker/B. Marshall

4.10 I. Redman/B. Lloyd/J. Maclin/A. Hernandez

5.3 Another WR likely here

6.10 If I missed on Redman, or can't pass up the value at WR/TE, this or 7 is a good spot for Smith.

I just think I'd rather have his 2 weeks of what I think will be good production (amd hey, maybe more) than chasing a mess like Jonathan Stewart, Ryan Williams, etc in that spot. As my RB3 or 4, sure. But in this scenario I need someone to put out there week 1, and I'd prefer Smith over those guys.

 
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Smith is a big target of mine when I go Rodgers or non-RB in the 1st round. I like to grab him as a 5th/6th round RB2 as a guy I know I can throw out there weeks 1 and 2 and then worry about that RB2 slot from there. Mocking from 3 for my Money League (12 tm, PPR, 2RB/3WR) when I go Rodgers typically looks something like this:1.3 A. Rodgers2.10 S.Jackson/D. Sproles3.3 W. Welker/B. Marshall4.10 I. Redman/B. Lloyd/J. Maclin/A. Hernandez5.3 Another WR likely here6.10 If I missed on Redman, or can't pass up the value at WR/TE, this or 7 is a good spot for Smith. I just think I'd rather have his 2 weeks of what I think will be good production (amd hey, maybe more) than chasing a mess like Jonathan Stewart, Ryan Williams, etc in that spot. As my RB3 or 4, sure. But in this scenario I need someone to put out there week 1, and I'd prefer Smith over those guys.
While I think Smith has a chance to provide some value (if his ADP doesn't rise to high), he plays SF in week 2, and while I don't place a huge amount of stock in SOS from last season, the 49ers return most (all?) of their defense and were super-tough against the run last year. I wouldn't be too confident in "good production" in week 2 from Smith.
 
Smith is a big target of mine when I go Rodgers or non-RB in the 1st round. I like to grab him as a 5th/6th round RB2 as a guy I know I can throw out there weeks 1 and 2 and then worry about that RB2 slot from there. Mocking from 3 for my Money League (12 tm, PPR, 2RB/3WR) when I go Rodgers typically looks something like this:1.3 A. Rodgers2.10 S.Jackson/D. Sproles3.3 W. Welker/B. Marshall4.10 I. Redman/B. Lloyd/J. Maclin/A. Hernandez5.3 Another WR likely here6.10 If I missed on Redman, or can't pass up the value at WR/TE, this or 7 is a good spot for Smith. I just think I'd rather have his 2 weeks of what I think will be good production (amd hey, maybe more) than chasing a mess like Jonathan Stewart, Ryan Williams, etc in that spot. As my RB3 or 4, sure. But in this scenario I need someone to put out there week 1, and I'd prefer Smith over those guys.
While I think Smith has a chance to provide some value (if his ADP doesn't rise to high), he plays SF in week 2, and while I don't place a huge amount of stock in SOS from last season, the 49ers return most (all?) of their defense and were super-tough against the run last year. I wouldn't be too confident in "good production" in week 2 from Smith.
Honestly a lot of Smith's limited value last year came via check downs. And I would expect quite a bit of that v the stingy Niners D. Obviously not an ideal matchup, but if he's on the field for 75+% of the snaps, I think he has a decent shot at 15 pts. But yes, it's a valid point. That weel 1 Rams matchup feels juicy though.
 
He went 5.12 in the FPC draft last night. At this rate, look out Arian Foster
That better be Kevin Smith himself drafting or his momma. This is insane though, he will be lucky to last 4 games.
I don't understand why people think this.He was a major workhorse in college. He had two decent seasons (2008, 2009) as the starting RB on some horrible lions teams, getting 250+ touches each year. He got hurt badly in 2010 (any NFL RB can get hurt badly like he did). So ok, we have a somewhat decent career forming that gets derailed by a major injury. It happens. He sits a year-plus. Then, he basically comes off the street late last year, did a nice job, but got hurt. However, with no training camp / being sidelined a year / etc, it's somewhat understandable that he got hurt. I'm willing to give that a pass. The guy kept coming out there, too, even though he was hurt.IMHO, there's enough in his past to suggest he's pretty durable.
 
Smith is a big target of mine when I go Rodgers or non-RB in the 1st round. I like to grab him as a 5th/6th round RB2 as a guy I know I can throw out there weeks 1 and 2 and then worry about that RB2 slot from there. Mocking from 3 for my Money League (12 tm, PPR, 2RB/3WR) when I go Rodgers typically looks something like this:1.3 A. Rodgers2.10 S.Jackson/D. Sproles3.3 W. Welker/B. Marshall4.10 I. Redman/B. Lloyd/J. Maclin/A. Hernandez5.3 Another WR likely here6.10 If I missed on Redman, or can't pass up the value at WR/TE, this or 7 is a good spot for Smith. I just think I'd rather have his 2 weeks of what I think will be good production (amd hey, maybe more) than chasing a mess like Jonathan Stewart, Ryan Williams, etc in that spot. As my RB3 or 4, sure. But in this scenario I need someone to put out there week 1, and I'd prefer Smith over those guys.
While I think Smith has a chance to provide some value (if his ADP doesn't rise to high), he plays SF in week 2, and while I don't place a huge amount of stock in SOS from last season, the 49ers return most (all?) of their defense and were super-tough against the run last year. I wouldn't be too confident in "good production" in week 2 from Smith.
Honestly a lot of Smith's limited value last year came via check downs. And I would expect quite a bit of that v the stingy Niners D. Obviously not an ideal matchup, but if he's on the field for 75+% of the snaps, I think he has a decent shot at 15 pts. But yes, it's a valid point. That weel 1 Rams matchup feels juicy though.
The 49ers were middle of the road last year (15th) in receptions allowed to opposing RBs (78), and middle of the road (17) in rec yardage to opposing RBs (612, 38.25 YPG), but only allowed 1 receiving TDs to RBs. Even if Smith gets those checkdown catches, his production might be low (especially in non-PPR leagues).
 
Smith is a big target of mine when I go Rodgers or non-RB in the 1st round. I like to grab him as a 5th/6th round RB2 as a guy I know I can throw out there weeks 1 and 2 and then worry about that RB2 slot from there. Mocking from 3 for my Money League (12 tm, PPR, 2RB/3WR) when I go Rodgers typically looks something like this:1.3 A. Rodgers2.10 S.Jackson/D. Sproles3.3 W. Welker/B. Marshall4.10 I. Redman/B. Lloyd/J. Maclin/A. Hernandez5.3 Another WR likely here6.10 If I missed on Redman, or can't pass up the value at WR/TE, this or 7 is a good spot for Smith. I just think I'd rather have his 2 weeks of what I think will be good production (amd hey, maybe more) than chasing a mess like Jonathan Stewart, Ryan Williams, etc in that spot. As my RB3 or 4, sure. But in this scenario I need someone to put out there week 1, and I'd prefer Smith over those guys.
While I think Smith has a chance to provide some value (if his ADP doesn't rise to high), he plays SF in week 2, and while I don't place a huge amount of stock in SOS from last season, the 49ers return most (all?) of their defense and were super-tough against the run last year. I wouldn't be too confident in "good production" in week 2 from Smith.
Honestly a lot of Smith's limited value last year came via check downs. And I would expect quite a bit of that v the stingy Niners D. Obviously not an ideal matchup, but if he's on the field for 75+% of the snaps, I think he has a decent shot at 15 pts. But yes, it's a valid point. That weel 1 Rams matchup feels juicy though.
The 49ers were middle of the road last year (15th) in receptions allowed to opposing RBs (78), and middle of the road (17) in rec yardage to opposing RBs (612, 38.25 YPG), but only allowed 1 receiving TDs to RBs. Even if Smith gets those checkdown catches, his production might be low (especially in non-PPR leagues).
All PPR for me. You're very focused on that Niners game. I'm simply advocated taking Smith as a strategy when you only have 1 RB come the 6th round, and want something you would at least be able to count on as a starting RB in those first two weeks, regardless of opponent. Fantasy Football is an ever-changing beast, and even after week 1 he could very well be replaced as my RB2 by a waiver wire pickup. But if he isn't, at least I know I'll have someone on the field (v a great run D, yes) for that week while I sort out the situation. I think he's likely good for another week of production as well, as I imagine Leshoure won't get right back into things week 3 with the Week 4 bye following. I just don't really believe Best is coming back in the next couple of months.
 
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In week 13 or so when someone makes a post on where do you think you went wrong with your fantasy team, that caused them to miss the playoffs, 70 percent of the people in this thread (most will never admit it), can say I drafted Kevin Smith before round 10 when I could have had so and so and expected him to be my RB2.

 
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Smith is a big target of mine when I go Rodgers or non-RB in the 1st round. I like to grab him as a 5th/6th round RB2 as a guy I know I can throw out there weeks 1 and 2 and then worry about that RB2 slot from there. Mocking from 3 for my Money League (12 tm, PPR, 2RB/3WR) when I go Rodgers typically looks something like this:1.3 A. Rodgers2.10 S.Jackson/D. Sproles3.3 W. Welker/B. Marshall4.10 I. Redman/B. Lloyd/J. Maclin/A. Hernandez5.3 Another WR likely here6.10 If I missed on Redman, or can't pass up the value at WR/TE, this or 7 is a good spot for Smith. I just think I'd rather have his 2 weeks of what I think will be good production (amd hey, maybe more) than chasing a mess like Jonathan Stewart, Ryan Williams, etc in that spot. As my RB3 or 4, sure. But in this scenario I need someone to put out there week 1, and I'd prefer Smith over those guys.
While I think Smith has a chance to provide some value (if his ADP doesn't rise to high), he plays SF in week 2, and while I don't place a huge amount of stock in SOS from last season, the 49ers return most (all?) of their defense and were super-tough against the run last year. I wouldn't be too confident in "good production" in week 2 from Smith.
Honestly a lot of Smith's limited value last year came via check downs. And I would expect quite a bit of that v the stingy Niners D. Obviously not an ideal matchup, but if he's on the field for 75+% of the snaps, I think he has a decent shot at 15 pts. But yes, it's a valid point. That weel 1 Rams matchup feels juicy though.
The 49ers were middle of the road last year (15th) in receptions allowed to opposing RBs (78), and middle of the road (17) in rec yardage to opposing RBs (612, 38.25 YPG), but only allowed 1 receiving TDs to RBs. Even if Smith gets those checkdown catches, his production might be low (especially in non-PPR leagues).
All PPR for me. You're very focused on that Niners game. I'm simply advocated taking Smith as a strategy when you only have 1 RB come the 6th round, and want something you would at least be able to count on as a starting RB in those first two weeks, regardless of opponent. Fantasy Football is an ever-changing beast, and even after week 1 he could very well be replaced as my RB2 by a waiver wire pickup. But if he isn't, at least I know I'll have someone on the field (v a great run D, yes) for that week while I sort out the situation. I think he's likely good for another week of production as well, as I imagine Leshoure won't get right back into things week 3 with the Week 4 bye following. I just don't really believe Best is coming back in the next couple of months.
How am I "very focused on that Niners game?" :confused: YOU posted that "I just think I'd rather have his 2 weeks of what I think will be good production," since it appears (according to reports) that Smith looks like the starter for the 1st 2 weeks, at least. I merely pointed out that one of those 2 games isn't close to a lock for "good production." My first post said that I think Smith is likely to provide some value this year, but if you are solely concerned with getting "something you would at least be able to count as a starting RB in those 1st 2 weeks," you could select Donald Brown, James Starks (both of those guys are expected to be the starter, and should still be in week 2), Peyton Hillis, Stevan Ridley (the Chiefs are "supposed" to try to get 500 touches from their 2 RBs, and Charles might not be 100% early; Ridley looks to be the lead RB in NE right now), or even McGahee if he drops (end of the 5th round right now). If given my choice, I'd likely take Smith before all those guys, but that doesn't change the fact that your original premise was that Smith would "have his 2 weeks of what I think will be good production," and 1 of those weeks is just as likely to be bad production. That's all I was pointing out. If you still want to take Smith in round 6 despite his bad week 2 matchup, go for it. If I was in the same position, I might do the same.
 
So what do you guys think now after the news of Jahvid Best staying on the pup list for first 6 weeks?

I'm in a slow draft, we're in the 8th round. 12 team PPR, starts 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1FLEX, 1TE, 1K, 1DEF, 9 BN.

I already used my original 8th, so I already got a well balanced team of 1QB, 3RB, 3WR, 1TE.

Kevin Smith is still on the board. I was offered 8.6 and 12.6 for 9.11 and 10.7. I probably lose out on a good QB2 if I do that, but Kevin Smith is looking like such a huge bargain I think I must do it and take him there.

 
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I'v always liked the strategy of drafting Kevin Smith to pair with Lynch, Mathews or Peterson as a #2. His starts at the begining of the year will hold exceptional point per start value, and when the rest of his team comes back, Lynch will be done with any prospective holdouts, Mathews should be healthy, and Peterson should be closer to taking over. I tend to avoid players like Gerhart, as I don't want the 2-3 weeks where they share carries as the main guy comes back to impact my team.

 
In week 13 or so when someone makes a post on where do you think you went wrong with your fantasy team, that caused them to miss the playoffs, 70 percent of the people in this thread (most will never admit it), can say I drafted Kevin Smith before round 10 when I could have had so and so and expected him to be my RB2.
You're usually not picking up your RB2 until the 9th or 10th round?
 
So what do you guys think now after the news of Jahvid Best staying on the pup list for first 6 weeks?I'm in a slow draft, we're in the 8th round. 12 team PPR, starts 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1FLEX, 1TE, 1K, 1DEF, 9 BN.I already used my original 8th, so I already got a well balanced team of 1QB, 3RB, 3WR, 1TE.Kevin Smith is still on the board. I was offered 8.6 and 12.6 for 9.11 and 10.7. I probably lose out on a good QB2 if I do that, but Kevin Smith is looking like such a huge bargain I think I must do it and take him there.
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One thing to also remember is that even if Leshoure is healthy and ready to go by Week 3 (which is up in the air as of this post), Kevin Smith will likely still have some sort of role on the team even if it's as a 3rd down back. Also worth noting is that Detroit has a week 5 bye so if you are deep enough at RB, you can try to trade him off at a high if he produces well enough in the first 4 games.

 
Whoops my bad. Only my 4th post, didn't know any better (should've). I'll make a post down there then.
No problem :thumbup: Just letting ya know they tend to be pretty firm on that sort of stuff around this time of year (understandably). Good luck in your draft.
 
Pretty soon, somebody will start a thread about which Big Four RB to choose first: A.Foster, R.Rice, L.McCoy or K.Smith.Personally, I'd prefer the No. 4 draft position and take which ever one falls to me. ;-)
i know this post is almost two weeks old, but I just now read it for the first time . . .I have had a LONG day - thanks for the laugh!!
 
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