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Kids listening to 60s-80s music with fresh ears, lend fresh perspectiv (1 Viewer)

Doug B

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When my wife drives the kids around, she usually has in on a contemporary Top 40 station. Lots of Maroon 5, Katy Perry, Bruno Mars, Megan Trainor, etc. And my kids -- 8-year-old son and 12-year-old daughter -- like these songs plenty, as much as other kids their age.

But when I drive the kids around, we listen to one of either (a) the local 1980s station, (b) the local classic rock station, or ( c) the local "oldies" station [1960s-80s Top 40]. They've been turned on to a lot of older music, enough to ask questions about artists' names and song titles so that they can check out more on YouTube.

Here are some interesting and surprising takes they have on old-school music that they get to approach without any burnout factor or negative peer pressure:

- My son thinks pre-Vital Signs Survivor is like Zeppelin or The Who. Kid loves "Eye of the Tiger" ... thinks it's a rocking, rousing, get-the-blood-pumping kind of song and he completely overlooks any cheese factor that might be present. Huge fan of "Burning Heart" from Rocky IV, as well.

- Son is also big in general on hard-driving 80s rock. Scorpions, Hagar, Van Halen, etc. But to his fresh ears, Loverboy and Toto are in this same class of groups, too -- "Turn Me Loose" and "Hold the Line" are big favorites.

- Son also like a lot of post-new-wave synth work. Examples would be Murray Head's "One Night in Bangkok" and the Pet Shop Boys "Opportunities". Gets into Tears for Fears and Howard Jones, too. Loves "Take On Me", but every time it comes on ... he has to blurt out "Hit it, Mr. Butters ..." :D

- He likes to watch the Jimmy Fallon music spoofs online. Accordingly, he thinks of Bruce Springsteen as the "I Whip My Hair guy", and has kind of conflated The Doors with the Reading Rainbow theme song :D .

- Daughter is huge into The Beatles and Stones, and has been since she was a toddler. "Sympathy for the Devil" was the "Wooh Wooh! Song". She got this kids' book about the history of the Beatles in second grade, and then went and looked some more stuff on her own. It's unusual to run into a sixth-grader that can tell you all about the Abbey Road cover shoot, or the relationships of Eric Clapton and Billy Preston to the band.

- Building on the above, she also celebrates pretty much every Paul McCartney song she hears on the radio (Beatles tunes where Paul was on lead vox, Wings stuff, solo, duets, etc.). The interesting thing to me is that, from her perspective, there was no time when McCartney jumped the shark, so to speak. She can listen to "Say Say Say", and categorize that alongside "Coming Up", "Paperback Writer", "Silly Love Songs", etc. All go in the "Paul McCartney" bucket.

- Daughter likes synth-pop too, though she appreciates the earlier-80s new wave work more than my son does. She especially thinks The Flock of Seagulls were brilliant -- she was hooked young by the bird-song opening of the album version of "I Ran", as well as tracks like "Wishing (Photograph of You)". Duran Duran and Human League are also faves.

- Speaking of Duran Duran: I often tell her that they were the One Direction of their day ... that the same way her classmates were fawning over Harry and Liam, mine were fawning over Simon LeBon and Nick Rhodes. She usually says back that Duran Duran's music is way better than 1D's and Five Seconds of Summer's, and that Duran Duran could actually play their own instruments.

- Last anecdote: my daughter grew to have an appreciation of Phil Collins' work after watching Tarzan and being into the soundtrack. That segued into me pointing out "The Tarzan guy" whenever a Collins' song came on the radio. Several years later, she loves most of his vocal work -- "ABACAB", "Misunderstanding", "Sussudio", "Invisible Touch", etc. ... all in the same bucket. She thinks of "In the Air Tonight" as a cool haunting tune, a huge diversion for Collins's musically, and proof of his versatility (true enough, I suppose).

Okay, okay, this has gotten into TL;DR territory. But I am thinking that there a lot of good stories out there about how your kids approach old-school music -- especially regarding how they get to listen to it fresh, without our generation's memory-laden baggage.

 
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- Daughter is huge into The Beatles and Stones, and has been since she was a toddler. "Sympathy for the Devil" was the "Wooh Wooh! Song". She got this kids' book about the history of the Beatles in second grade, and then went and looked some more stuff on her own. It's unusual to run into a sixth-grader that can tell you all about the Abbey Road cover shoot, or the relationships of Eric Clapton and Billy Preston to the band.
These books are awesome. They have a whole variety of topics and you can usually get three of them for $10 at B&N. I need to do a checklist but I have to have near 30 of them. I had my nephew read one last Christmas break (he just turned 8) and one book can be read in a week at night time easy.

 
My kids aren't open to new (old) music when I put on the classic rock or "oldies" station. However, I can impress my step daughter by being able to sing along with almost every song played on the "oldies" station. A song will start, especially one that doesn't sound like what I usually listen to (hard rock or grunge) and her jaw drops when I sing right along with "True Colors" or something like that.

I've been listening to a lot of stuff from the 80s on Spotify, getting into some music I didn't get into back then. Hair/glam metal got a bad rap, but when you listen to SOME of it without the prejudice of the music video, you can get a much different impression of the actual music. In this vein, I can see why your son put Loverboy in a more legit category of music than most probably would based on memory (Turn me Loose is awesome).

 
Been having the kids listen to my music since birth since the wife always played wiggles in her car. They can identify some bands like smashing pumpkins or Green day by the voice. I try to listen to all kinds of stuff new and old so they don't get pigeon holed into one type.

 
These books are awesome. They have a whole variety of topics and you can usually get three of them for $10 at B&N. I need to do a checklist but I have to have near 30 of them. I had my nephew read one last Christmas break (he just turned 8) and one book can be read in a week at night time easy.
Yes, indeed. The Roald Dahl and Jim Henson ones are big with my kids, too. I like how they can read/watch Willy Wonka, and watch Sesame Street, and then have their curiosity about the backstory sated with those books.

 
In this vein, I can see why your son put Loverboy in a more legit category of music than most probably would based on memory (Turn me Loose is awesome).
Remember how Loverboy was marketed? They were playing on Mike Reno's looks and marketed to girls. Not as much as, say, Rick Springfield, but not too far off.

 
My 3 year old's favorite song right now is that Talking Bodies sex ditty. He is a real **** in the car when trying to pick out music though he does love Phil Collins, the Cars and the Stones. Mostly he just wants to hear what's on the other channels before he decides.

 
Interesting perspective and thanks for posting. I was agreeing with your boy until you said that he liked that steaming piece of #### 'One Night in Bangkok'. Can't picture anyone liking that un-ironically.

 
Interesting perspective and thanks for posting. I was agreeing with your boy until you said that he liked that steaming piece of #### 'One Night in Bangkok'. Can't picture anyone liking that un-ironically.
Yes. That song is the ugly red headed stepchild of 80's music.

 
Interesting perspective and thanks for posting. I was agreeing with your boy until you said that he liked that steaming piece of #### 'One Night in Bangkok'. Can't picture anyone liking that un-ironically.
Interesting perspective and thanks for posting. I was agreeing with your boy until you said that he liked that steaming piece of #### 'One Night in Bangkok'. Can't picture anyone liking that un-ironically.
Do eight year olds have irony? Some times good is just good.

One night is very like another when your heads down over your pieces brother.

 
Interesting perspective and thanks for posting. I was agreeing with your boy until you said that he liked that steaming piece of #### 'One Night in Bangkok'. Can't picture anyone liking that un-ironically.
Believe it. I bought this for a cool $18 bucks back in the day just for that one song. Didn't realize at the time that I messed up and didn't get Head's version :bag:

The version on the Broadway cast album was still good, though. But GB YouTube (and Spotify if I ever get around to it).

 
Interesting perspective and thanks for posting. I was agreeing with your boy until you said that he liked that steaming piece of #### 'One Night in Bangkok'. Can't picture anyone liking that un-ironically.
Believe it. I bought this for a cool $18 bucks back in the day just for that one song. Didn't realize at the time that I messed up and didn't get Head's version :bag:

The version on the Broadway cast album was still good, though. But GB YouTube (and Spotify if I ever get around to it).
Not sure whether to kick you in the nuts or hug you for that purchase.

Also, make sure that the next generation knows that Rock Me Amadeus only became popular via the version with the guitar riff and the Amadeus bio cliff notes. Not sure why another version of that song even exists.

 
Some good parenting there. :thumbup:

I had my kids locked into 60s/classic rock early on, but once they hit middle school, they became like every generation before them and now can't stand dad's music.

:shakesfist:

 
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Some good parenting there. :thumbup:

I had my kids locked into 60s/classic rock early on, but once they hit middle school, they became like every generation before them and now can't stand dad's music.

:shakesfist:
My older 2 followed this path but my 16yo likes The Clash , Ramones Joy Division , Smiths, Bowie etc . There is hope
 
Some good parenting there. :thumbup:

I had my kids locked into 60s/classic rock early on, but once they hit middle school, they became like every generation before them and now can't stand dad's music.

:shakesfist:
My older 2 followed this path but my 16yo likes The Clash , Ramones Joy Division , Smiths, Bowie etc . There is hope
Yeah, not likely, but I'm hoping at some point they find their way back after tiring of today's sound. They haven't listened to Jose Feliciano yet.

 
My 8 year old son has had his own playlist on my ipod for years. I have never listened to anything but "normal" music- ie no Disney songs, kidsbop crap. He cycles through and tires of some stuff, but we are up to about 60 core songs that he really likes. He seems to like stuff from all eras, as long as it "has a good beat". His current favs of the bunch:

Living on a Prayer

Beat it

Wasted Years

Let's Go Crazy

Wild Wild Life

Under Pressure

He also seems to like a lot of Arcade Fire, Muse, and Arctic Monkeys songs I throw at him too.

Every night he still falls asleep to the scores of the Star Wars movies.

 
I pump my chest out a little bit whenever my 19 yr old is with me and asks to listen to the 80s channel on satellite. :banned:

 
Ofcourse they like New Wave and synth pop, that's one of the biggest influencers on current music. A lot of people brushed it off as a joke maybe even on par with disco but it really holds up and tons of current musicians in every genre are trying emulate parts of it.

 
Karma Police mentioned "Beat It" as well. Both my kids enjoy Michael Jackson. My son's class this past school year ... they actually had an academic unit about Michael Jackson. They watched an edited version of "Thriller" in class (I showed him the fuil version at home), and listened to a lot of songs. He came home knowing about "ABC", "Dancing Machine", "Off the Wall", etc.

 
Have a 16yo daughter. Thanks to iPods/iPhones, she loves 80's/90's music and some 60's/70's. Big into Stones, Zepplin, Beatles, Doors, Pearl Jam, and then modern stuff that I still don't get.

I have to think iTunes is a big reason why our kids today are so much more in tune w/ older music. That and the 'old' music now doesn't suck.

 
Have a 16yo daughter. Thanks to iPods/iPhones, she loves 80's/90's music and some 60's/70's. Big into Stones, Zepplin, Beatles, Doors, Pearl Jam, and then modern stuff that I still don't get.

I have to think iTunes is a big reason why our kids today are so much more in tune w/ older music. That and the 'old' music now doesn't suck.
I grew up on the 90s and between radio, my dads CD, MTV/VH1 and the music stores, I was way into 60s-70s music, 50s doo-***/oldies, classical, jazz and blues. Current tech makes it easier, but there was always good older music.

 
When my kids are in the car with me, we listen to all kinds of stuff. I listen to some of their music. They listen to some of mine. They get a kick out of the older songs that are sampled in newer songs or hearing the old versions of new covers.

 
In this vein, I can see why your son put Loverboy in a more legit category of music than most probably would based on memory (Turn me Loose is awesome).
Remember how Loverboy was marketed? They were playing on Mike Reno's looks and marketed to girls. Not as much as, say, Rick Springfield, but not too far off.
One of these guys referred to Loverboy as the "Canadian Bon Jovi" I laughed and thought it was a good analogy

 
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- Building on the above, she also celebrates pretty much every Paul McCartney song she hears on the radio (Beatles tunes where Paul was on lead vox, Wings stuff, solo, duets, etc.). The interesting thing to me is that, from her perspective, there was no time when McCartney jumped the shark, so to speak. She can listen to "Say Say Say", and categorize that alongside "Coming Up", "Paperback Writer", "Silly Love Songs", etc. All go in the "Paul McCartney" bucket.
Your daughter is correct. McCartney's songwriting is still top notch to this day (in fact has gotten stronger in his last 5 or 6 solo LPs).

What he has missed is someone like John to keep him in line on occasion and John missed Paul quite a bit in his solo career as well. But pick the best 4 songs from any of Paul's albums and they rank right up there with his Beatle stuff.

 
10 & 12 year old girls

When these songs come on the radio, they'll sing the word for word.

Hotel California

Stairway to heaven

American Pie

T.N.T.

Most Beatles songs

....I'm sure there are more

Brings a tear to my eye when they are rocking out to ACDC

 
I have 2 boys 14, and 11. My 11 year old is not too much into music, but likes the top 40 crap my wife puts on.

My 14 year old was raised on Floyd, Dire Straits and 80's music. I took him to his first concert at 11. He saw Muse. Last year was his 2nd concert, and we saw Jack White. We missed out on NiN and Sound Garden, that HE asked me if we could go.

I will be taking him to Aussie Floyd next.

GB that kid!

 
- My son thinks pre-Vital Signs Survivor is like Zeppelin or The Who. Kid loves "Eye of the Tiger" ... thinks it's a rocking, rousing, get-the-blood-pumping kind of song and he completely overlooks any cheese factor that might be present. Huge fan of "Burning Heart" from Rocky IV, as well.
You pretty much have failed at life if you don't like "Eye of the Tiger".

 
I have 2 boys 14, and 11. My 11 year old is not too much into music, but likes the top 40 crap my wife puts on.

My 14 year old was raised on Floyd, Dire Straits and 80's music. I took him to his first concert at 11. He saw Muse. Last year was his 2nd concert, and we saw Jack White. We missed out on NiN and Sound Garden, that HE asked me if we could go.

I will be taking him to Aussie Floyd next.

GB that kid!
One out of two ain't bad...oh, introduce him to Meatloaf next.

 
Nathan R. Jessep said:
When my kids are in the car with me, we listen to all kinds of stuff. I listen to some of their music. They listen to some of mine. They get a kick out of the older songs that are sampled in newer songs or hearing the old versions of new covers.
All :goodposting: but the bolded part is especially fun w/teenagers. The look of :mindblown: when they find out the greatest song ever invented in the last 3 minutes isn't original is great.

 
Two boys, 8 and 11 years old. Both love Hair Nation, Ozzy's Boneyard and 80's on 8 on XM. My older son got very into the pop punk bands of the late 90's/early 2,000's (Green Day, sum 41) he also likes Bon Jovi, testament and 5 finger death punch. Younger son likes his kids pop, but his current favorite song is "Heaven Tonight" by Yngwie Malmsteen. He has it favorited on YouTube, sings it nonstop.

 
My 8 year old son has had his own playlist on my ipod for years. I have never listened to anything but "normal" music- ie no Disney songs, kidsbop crap. He cycles through and tires of some stuff, but we are up to about 60 core songs that he really likes. He seems to like stuff from all eras, as long as it "has a good beat". His current favs of the bunch:

Living on a Prayer

Beat it

Wasted Years

Let's Go Crazy

Wild Wild Life

Under Pressure

He also seems to like a lot of Arcade Fire, Muse, and Arctic Monkeys songs I throw at him too.

Every night he still falls asleep to the scores of the Star Wars movies.
My son will randomly start humming the Empire theme while he's playing. He's 4.

 

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