Killing Rampage near UC Santa Barbara (1 Viewer)

[Mario Kart]

This personal attack on the parent is really below the belt

http://www.showbiz411.com/2014/05/25/exclusive-hunger-games-killers-dad-sells-art-photos-of-womens-behinds

The kid had severe issues with women and dad was a pornographer. Doesn't seem to be a stretch that it may have had a negative impact on his son.

Edit: I see what you did there...

Really? The blame only needs to be put on one person here. Not sure if you're being serious or not but to put any blame on dad, at this juncture, is just plain dumb.

 

[Otis]

Is getting laid that important?

If only he'd gotten married, it would have become a whole lot less important.

You won't like this guy. He bragged several times how he pigged out on delicious food without getting fat.

Ugh. Hate him.

 

[Otis]

Based on the couple of minutes of his video that I did watch, if the kid just waited about 10 years, put on about 15 lbs, got married, and had kids, he basically just described something I call "weekdays."

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Based on the couple of minutes of his video that I did watch, if the kid just waited about 10 years, put on about 15 lbs, got married, and had kids, he basically just described something I call "weekdays."

WTF?

 

[Otis]

Based on the couple of minutes of his video that I did watch, if the kid just waited about 10 years, put on about 15 lbs, got married, and had kids, he basically just described something I call "weekdays."

WTF?

Does the rest of the video just continue complaining about not having sex?

 

[Politician Spock]

Based on the couple of minutes of his video that I did watch, if the kid just waited about 10 years, put on about 15 lbs, got married, and had kids, he basically just described something I call "weekdays."

WTF?

Does the rest of the video just continue complaining about not having sex?

Yep, pretty much. Except the parts about being a god. But I assumed you were including that part.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Watched the video. Whaaaat a loser.

 

[Ilov80s]

Watched the video. Whaaaat a loser.

That's insulting to losers. A loser is a 40 year old that still lives in their moms basement, has no job, smokes weed all day and spends more time playing video games than they do with their kids. This guy was a delusional monster.

 

[Christo]

Watched the video. Whaaaat a loser.

That's insulting to losers. A loser is a 40 year old that still lives in their moms basement, has no job, smokes weed all day and spends more time playing video games than they do with their kids. This guy was a delusional monster.

I've had a few days where that sounds kinda nice.

 

[drummer]

Watched the video. Whaaaat a loser.

That's insulting to losers. A loser is a 40 year old that still lives in their moms basement, has no job, smokes weed all day and spends more time playing video games than they do with their kids. This guy was a delusional monster.

I've had a few days where that sounds kinda nice.

That should be a Sunday for most parents.

 

[timschochet]

There is also the possibility that he was simply an evil person.

I think this is an important point. It's never simple, and I don't share your religious beliefs regarding good and evil. But evil does exist, unfortunately, and this guy was an example of it.

 

[Ilov80s]

Based on the couple of minutes of his video that I did watch, if the kid just waited about 10 years, put on about 15 lbs, got married, and had kids, he basically just described something I call "weekdays."

WTF?

Does the rest of the video just continue complaining about not having sex?

He wasn't right in the head, it didn't have anything to do with not getting laid. He didn't get laid because he was so out there. He complains about being short. The guy was 5-9. He was average height. Sure he was pretty skinny, but that's not such a bad problem to have. He wasn't really a bad looking guy, had a BMW and nice clothes. Everything on the surface indicates a guy that shouldn't have any trouble getting girls.

 

[timschochet]

If we had a time machine, and could place 1,000 different babies with this dude's parents, each baby an exact physical twin of this dude, each one diagnosed with the same mental issues, and each one would grow up facing the exact same circumstances, upbringing, same incidents all throughout life, it is my contention that NONE of them would have committed this crime. All of these factors- mental illness, mistreatment by others, etc.- they all play a part- but none of them decides the issue, IMO. What made THIS guy commit this crime is that he chose to be evil.

 

[CurlyNight]

Anyone catch on CNN today the interview they did with a neighbor? Very interesting. The neighbor and others tried all the time to include him on stuff. If he'd join in the group outside their building, he'd just be sitting off in the corner there staring. That guy tried hard to get him involved and to talk but he was always quiet, looking like he's angry, and his eyes were dead black. After a half hour of asking questions, he finally said one sentence. One night he came back all beat up. That neighbor tried to help him asking if he needed medical attention or stitches. He was more like repulsed by him wanting to help him. So it's not that people didn't want to interact with him, he clearly didn't want it and hated more than women.

He was clearly at minimum a sociopath.

The neighbor says he never thought this would be a guy to turn violent since he was quiet. He says there are soooo many weirdos here that you just don't know if it's something to fear or not.

That's the problem with this situation. You can't commit someone unless they are posing a threat to themselves or others and you have to either hear it or see something that would indicate it. Had the officers been able to go in his place, they would have seen guns and all but you can't just go into someone's place without a cause. I don't know how you can fix this. Just because someone is really off, weird as hell, mean and angry looking doesn't mean they are a threat. You have to see something more than that or hear something that raises a flag otherwise you would have officers going into a lot of homes just because someone is really off and that's not legal and it impinges on that person's rights.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

If we had a time machine, and could place 1,000 different babies with this dude's parents, each baby an exact physical twin of this dude, each one diagnosed with the same mental issues, and each one would grow up facing the exact same circumstances, upbringing, same incidents all throughout life, it is my contention that NONE of them would have committed this crime. All of these factors- mental illness, mistreatment by others, etc.- they all play a part- but none of them decides the issue, IMO. What made THIS guy commit this crime is that he chose to be evil.

Just shut up for once.

 

[bagger]

Is getting laid that important?

If only he'd gotten married, it would have become a whole lot less important.

Pretty sure getting married would have only aggravated the situation.

 

[Politician Spock]

If we had a time machine, and could place 1,000 different babies with this dude's parents,

Would they move into Hotel Hell?

 

[PatsWillWin]

 

[Freelove]

If we had a time machine, and could place 1,000 different babies with this dude's parents, each baby an exact physical twin of this dude, each one diagnosed with the same mental issues, and each one would grow up facing the exact same circumstances, upbringing, same incidents all throughout life...

I don't think that's what time machines are supposed to do.

 

[Sarnoff]

If we had a time machine, and could place 1,000 different babies with this dude's parents, each baby an exact physical twin of this dude, each one diagnosed with the same mental issues, and each one would grow up facing the exact same circumstances, upbringing, same incidents all throughout life, it is my contention that NONE of them would have committed this crime. All of these factors- mental illness, mistreatment by others, etc.- they all play a part- but none of them decides the issue, IMO. What made THIS guy commit this crime is that he chose to be evil.

Just shut up for once.

Seriously.

 

[PatsWillWin]

If we had a time machine, and could place 1,000 different babies with this dude's parents, each baby an exact physical twin of this dude, each one diagnosed with the same mental issues, and each one would grow up facing the exact same circumstances, upbringing, same incidents all throughout life...

I don't think that's what time machines are supposed to do.

Yeah I don't get it. Do we go back in time 1,000 times and get him as a baby? I think we're getting into alternate universes here. That's beyond the scope of a time machine.

 

[Politician Spock]

If we had a time machine, and could place 1,000 different babies with this dude's parents, each baby an exact physical twin of this dude, each one diagnosed with the same mental issues, and each one would grow up facing the exact same circumstances, upbringing, same incidents all throughout life...

I don't think that's what time machines are supposed to do.

Yeah I don't get it. Do we go back in time 1,000 times and get him as a baby? I think we're getting into alternate universes here. That's beyond the scope of a time machine.

Can it take us to the zoo next week?

 

[Mister Martie]

If we had a time machine, and could place 1,000 different babies with this dude's parents, each baby an exact physical twin of this dude, each one diagnosed with the same mental issues, and each one would grow up facing the exact same circumstances, upbringing, same incidents all throughout life, it is my contention that NONE of them would have committed this crime. All of these factors- mental illness, mistreatment by others, etc.- they all play a part- but none of them decides the issue, IMO. What made THIS guy commit this crime is that he chose to be evil.

 

[Christo]

If we had a time machine the first thing we'd do is go have a serious talk with Tim's dad.

 

[timschochet]

A guy tries to make a serious point about good and evil and personal responsibility, and he's mocked for it. If I were Eminence I would sue the FFA for bullying!

 

[Ilov80s]

If we had a time machine the first thing we'd do is go have a serious talk with Tim's dad.

1000 times.

 

[Politician Spock]

A guy tries to make a serious point about good and evil and personal responsibility, and he's mocked for it. If I were Eminence I would sue the FFA for bullying!

HFS! You were serious?

 

[Stinger Ray]

If we had a time machine, and could place 1,000 different babies with this dude's parents, each baby an exact physical twin of this dude, each one diagnosed with the same mental issues, and each one would grow up facing the exact same circumstances, upbringing, same incidents all throughout life, it is my contention that NONE of them would have committed this crime. All of these factors- mental illness, mistreatment by others, etc.- they all play a part- but none of them decides the issue, IMO. What made THIS guy commit this crime is that he chose to be evil.

This is right up there with your post about defending Roman Polanski.

 

[Christo]

A guy tries to make a serious point about good and evil and personal responsibility, and he's mocked for it. If I were Eminence I would sue the FFA for bullying!

HFS! You were serious?

timserious

 

[Riversco]

Tim is slipping. It took a reference to travelling through time 1000x to make this thread about him.

 

[Stinger Ray]

A guy tries to make a serious point about good and evil and personal responsibility, and he's mocked for it. If I were Eminence I would sue the FFA for bullying!

Why do you do this? You wonder why you are laughed at here at times and you pull this crap. You have some major issues.

 

[Henry Ford]

A teacher I know stopped something like this from happening at a high school several weeks ago. The kid in question was released from the mental hospital last week. She was just informed on Friday that this kid will be returning to school next year.

 

[CurlyNight]

A teacher I know stopped something like this from happening at a high school several weeks ago. The kid in question was released from the mental hospital last week. She was just informed on Friday that this kid will be returning to school next year.

Scary but you can't keep them locked up forever. I'm sure they have close monitorings on him.

 

[Henry Ford]

A teacher I know stopped something like this from happening at a high school several weeks ago. The kid in question was released from the mental hospital last week. She was just informed on Friday that this kid will be returning to school next year.

Scary but you can't keep them locked up forever. I'm sure they have close monitorings on him.

You can't keep them locked up, but you can keep them from the school they threatened to shoot up a few weeks ago.And no, kid's returning to her class. Monitoring will not be close other than her.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Wow. That video. Wow.

No shtick, reminds me of Eminence.

Like you, I can't think of a better person to do this than BGP, but since he's currently off on some great adventure that I'm sure we'll all hear about on the news some day,

Or, you know, him.

 

[DiStefano]

If we had a time machine the first thing we'd do is go have a serious talk with Tim's dad.

And tell him to get snipped.

 

[Ilov80s]

A teacher I know stopped something like this from happening at a high school several weeks ago. The kid in question was released from the mental hospital last week. She was just informed on Friday that this kid will be returning to school next year.

Had multiple students tell me a kid (that has a myriad of mental, social and behavioral issues and is prescribed Abilify, but dad doesn't believe in meds so doesn't make him take it) told them he was going to kill his dad and then eat 80 style Tylenols. We held him after school, made dad come pick him up, explained the situation and said he can't come back without a clearance from a doctor. The kid denied saying it and said if he wanted to kill his dad he had many chances in the past, why worry now? 2 days later he was back in school with a note from the hospital saying he was all good.

 

[timschochet]

A guy tries to make a serious point about good and evil and personal responsibility, and he's mocked for it. If I were Eminence I would sue the FFA for bullying!

Why do you do this? You wonder why you are laughed at here at times and you pull this crap. You have some major issues.

Whatever. I wrote about how chilled I was because this happened close to where my kids will be next weekend, and I was criticized for THAT. Un####ingbelievable. Politician Spock is still making fun of me over that comment, and yet I'm the one with "major issues"???

Here I was just using an example to try and point out that all of these reasons people are coming up with aren't by themselves good enough to explain what this guy did- Ka El is right, at bottom this guy is evil. That was my point. And I got ripped for it again. Oh well.

 

[Henry Ford]

A teacher I know stopped something like this from happening at a high school several weeks ago. The kid in question was released from the mental hospital last week. She was just informed on Friday that this kid will be returning to school next year.

Had multiple students tell me a kid (that has a myriad of mental, social and behavioral issues and is prescribed Abilify, but dad doesn't believe in meds so doesn't make him take it) told them he was going to kill his dad and then eat 80 style Tylenols. We held him after school, made dad come pick him up, explained the situation and said he can't come back without a clearance from a doctor. The kid denied saying it and said if he wanted to kill his dad he had many chances in the past, why worry now? 2 days later he was back in school with a note from the hospital saying he was all good.

The kid I'm talking about told his teacher he was hearing voices again, and had put together a plan using the guns he currently has in his home to wait until homeroom was over and just kill everyone he could in the halls after the bell rang until the police showed up, then kill himself.

 

[drummer]

A guy tries to make a serious point about good and evil and personal responsibility, and he's mocked for it. If I were Eminence I would sue the FFA for bullying!

Why do you do this? You wonder why you are laughed at here at times and you pull this crap. You have some major issues.

I I my I I'm the one with "major issues"???

I my point. I. Oh well.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Kid was a sociopath who looks like he had a serious case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Really sad all around. Good to hear the Judge Smails' daughters are okay, though. Otherwise not much else to say.

 

[Ilov80s]

A teacher I know stopped something like this from happening at a high school several weeks ago. The kid in question was released from the mental hospital last week. She was just informed on Friday that this kid will be returning to school next year.

Had multiple students tell me a kid (that has a myriad of mental, social and behavioral issues and is prescribed Abilify, but dad doesn't believe in meds so doesn't make him take it) told them he was going to kill his dad and then eat 80 style Tylenols. We held him after school, made dad come pick him up, explained the situation and said he can't come back without a clearance from a doctor. The kid denied saying it and said if he wanted to kill his dad he had many chances in the past, why worry now? 2 days later he was back in school with a note from the hospital saying he was all good.

The kid I'm talking about told his teacher he was hearing voices again, and had put together a plan using the guns he currently has in his home to wait until homeroom was over and just kill everyone he could in the halls after the bell rang until the police showed up, then kill himself.

That's messed up. I can't even imagine returning to that. I know the kid can't be locked up forever, but maybe a different school and clean start might be a better plan?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

A guy tries to make a serious point about good and evil and personal responsibility, and he's mocked for it. If I were Eminence I would sue the FFA for bullying!

Why do you do this? You wonder why you are laughed at here at times and you pull this crap. You have some major issues.

Whatever. I wrote about how chilled I was because this happened close to where my kids will be next weekend, and I was criticized for THAT. Un####ingbelievable. Politician Spock is still making fun of me over that comment, and yet I'm the one with "major issues"???Here I was just using an example to try and point out that all of these reasons people are coming up with aren't by themselves good enough to explain what this guy did- Ka El is right, at bottom this guy is evil. That was my point. And I got ripped for it again. Oh well.

It's just another example of posts you don't need to make yet you do because you have no common sense and/or it's always about you. It's a cycle that happens over and over yet you never learn.

 

[CurlyNight]

A teacher I know stopped something like this from happening at a high school several weeks ago. The kid in question was released from the mental hospital last week. She was just informed on Friday that this kid will be returning to school next year.

Had multiple students tell me a kid (that has a myriad of mental, social and behavioral issues and is prescribed Abilify, but dad doesn't believe in meds so doesn't make him take it) told them he was going to kill his dad and then eat 80 style Tylenols. We held him after school, made dad come pick him up, explained the situation and said he can't come back without a clearance from a doctor. The kid denied saying it and said if he wanted to kill his dad he had many chances in the past, why worry now? 2 days later he was back in school with a note from the hospital saying he was all good.

The kid I'm talking about told his teacher he was hearing voices again, and had put together a plan using the guns he currently has in his home to wait until homeroom was over and just kill everyone he could in the halls after the bell rang until the police showed up, then kill himself.

They probably gave him meds and set him free on the third day. You can only hold them for 72 hours at least in CA unless they are displaying or saying anything that warrants a longer stay.

 

[PatsWillWin]

A guy tries to make a serious point about good and evil and personal responsibility, and he's mocked for it. If I were Eminence I would sue the FFA for bullying!

Why do you do this? You wonder why you are laughed at here at times and you pull this crap. You have some major issues.

Whatever. I wrote about how chilled I was because this happened close to where my kids will be next weekend, and I was criticized for THAT. Un####ingbelievable. Politician Spock is still making fun of me over that comment, and yet I'm the one with "major issues"???

Here I was just using an example to try and point out that all of these reasons people are coming up with aren't by themselves good enough to explain what this guy did- Ka El is right, at bottom this guy is evil. That was my point. And I got ripped for it again. Oh well.

Yeah it's almost as if no one likes you and everyone wants you to leave forever.

 

[Henry Ford]

A teacher I know stopped something like this from happening at a high school several weeks ago. The kid in question was released from the mental hospital last week. She was just informed on Friday that this kid will be returning to school next year.

Had multiple students tell me a kid (that has a myriad of mental, social and behavioral issues and is prescribed Abilify, but dad doesn't believe in meds so doesn't make him take it) told them he was going to kill his dad and then eat 80 style Tylenols. We held him after school, made dad come pick him up, explained the situation and said he can't come back without a clearance from a doctor. The kid denied saying it and said if he wanted to kill his dad he had many chances in the past, why worry now? 2 days later he was back in school with a note from the hospital saying he was all good.

The kid I'm talking about told his teacher he was hearing voices again, and had put together a plan using the guns he currently has in his home to wait until homeroom was over and just kill everyone he could in the halls after the bell rang until the police showed up, then kill himself.

That's messed up. I can't even imagine returning to that. I know the kid can't be locked up forever, but maybe a different school and clean start might be a better plan?

That's certainly her argument.If he returns, she's quitting. After designing the entire LD program for the district she works for and working there 20 years.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

If we had a time machine the first thing we'd do is go have a serious talk with Tim's dad.

1000 times.

I'm pretty sure that's NOT what I'll do if I have a time machine.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

The roommate who dated "ugly" girls was really lucky he moved out early.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

A teacher I know stopped something like this from happening at a high school several weeks ago. The kid in question was released from the mental hospital last week. She was just informed on Friday that this kid will be returning to school next year.

Had multiple students tell me a kid (that has a myriad of mental, social and behavioral issues and is prescribed Abilify, but dad doesn't believe in meds so doesn't make him take it) told them he was going to kill his dad and then eat 80 style Tylenols. We held him after school, made dad come pick him up, explained the situation and said he can't come back without a clearance from a doctor. The kid denied saying it and said if he wanted to kill his dad he had many chances in the past, why worry now? 2 days later he was back in school with a note from the hospital saying he was all good.

The kid I'm talking about told his teacher he was hearing voices again, and had put together a plan using the guns he currently has in his home to wait until homeroom was over and just kill everyone he could in the halls after the bell rang until the police showed up, then kill himself.

That's messed up. I can't even imagine returning to that. I know the kid can't be locked up forever, but maybe a different school and clean start might be a better plan?

That's certainly her argument.If he returns, she's quitting. After designing the entire LD program for the district she works for and working there 20 years.

A teacher I know stopped something like this from happening at a high school several weeks ago. The kid in question was released from the mental hospital last week. She was just informed on Friday that this kid will be returning to school next year.

Had multiple students tell me a kid (that has a myriad of mental, social and behavioral issues and is prescribed Abilify, but dad doesn't believe in meds so doesn't make him take it) told them he was going to kill his dad and then eat 80 style Tylenols. We held him after school, made dad come pick him up, explained the situation and said he can't come back without a clearance from a doctor. The kid denied saying it and said if he wanted to kill his dad he had many chances in the past, why worry now? 2 days later he was back in school with a note from the hospital saying he was all good.

The kid I'm talking about told his teacher he was hearing voices again, and had put together a plan using the guns he currently has in his home to wait until homeroom was over and just kill everyone he could in the halls after the bell rang until the police showed up, then kill himself.

That's messed up. I can't even imagine returning to that. I know the kid can't be locked up forever, but maybe a different school and clean start might be a better plan?

That's certainly her argument.If he returns, she's quitting. After designing the entire LD program for the district she works for and working there 20 years.

Like old cops, teachers got to be extra careful right before retirement.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

If I had a time machine, I'd stay in the present, get some sick rims and just cruise around trying to pick up chicks.