Kitna's Prediction (1 Viewer)

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

If you paid attention to anything outside of New England and Indianapolis hype, you probably heard the statement or what most people heard as the prediction Kitna made about the Detroit Lions winning 10 games this season prior to the start of the season.

If you heard it on the radio, what was really said was that any team should be disappointed in not winning 10 games in a season and that it should basically be everyone's goal to achieve that.

However, what came out of that by the media was basically Kitna predicting that the Lions would win 10 games this season. I did a quick search and didn't see a poll done on this prior to the season, because it would be VERY interesting to see the percentage of NO votes. I'm guessing at least 80 percent would have been NO and I would have loved to have read my own comments because no way in I ever would have thought the Lions would get 10 wins.

But, they are now 6-2 and after going to the Lions, Broncos game this past Sunday, I have to say I am impressed. I am impressed at the way the defense is playing and I'm impressed with how the Lions are now running the ball. We all know they were heading into this season with a solid passing game but the reason the Lions have a shot at 10 wins and something that's not talked about in Detroit are the playoffs is their defense.

Remaining schedule:

@ Arizona (Arizona's home record is 2-1)

Home vs. New York Giants (Maybe the hottest team in the NFC)

Home vs. Green Bay (Green Bay is undefeated on the road and Farve's record in Detroit, amazing)

@ Minnesota (Detroit beat Minnesota in overtime at home earlier)

Home vs. Dallas (Dallas undefeated on the road)

@ San Diego (May be a must win game for San Diego)

Home vs. Kansas City (Maybe their easier game left)

@ Green Bay (Wow, that could be a big game)

You don't see Indy or NE on their schedule but that's really not that easy of a schedule. There are a lot of important games left for the Lions and I'm just wondering what people think, will they get 10 wins? They only have to go 4-4 to do it with their remaining schedule but games like @ Arizona are sometimes easy to say are wins when they sometimes end up into 3 point losses.

Thoughts?

 

[Winning IS Everything]

I think at Arizona, home vs Green Bay and home vs Kansas City get them to nine wins. If they can sneak out one of the others (I am thinking maybe the Giant game) they can do it.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

It's going to get tough the rest of the year. I say no. Vikings should have been a gimme, but now? No way.

 

[shadyridr]

DET vs teams with winning records: 1-1

DET vs teams with losing records: 5-1

Not saying they are a fluke but Im not ready to crown them a good team yet.

 

[shadyridr]

I think at Arizona, home vs Green Bay and home vs Kansas City get them to nine wins. If they can sneak out one of the others (I am thinking maybe the Giant game) they can do it.

No shot in hell. Best pass rush in football vs horrible offensive line and Kitna = sack fest

 

[curta269]

At the beginning of the season, I would have laughed and voted no. Now, I really think they can win 4 more games and make the playoffs.

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

Please don't demand apologies from Kitna doubters and bump this thread every week they get closer to 10 wins.

 

[NFZ]

Detroit will beat the Giants. They line is 5x better than it was at the beginning of the year. Teams will start getting blasted at Ford Field. It is the road where they are shakey.

 

[Sidewinder16]

At the beginning of the season, I would have laughed and voted no. Now, I really think they can win 4 more games and make the playoffs.

I voted no because those road games look harder than average, and they play the consensus top 3 in the NFC 4 times. I'm certainly not going to say it's not possible, but the odds don't look favorable for them the rest of the way, IMO.It's been shown they can be scored on (PHI, WAS, CHI) and it's been shown that their offense can be slowed (MIN, WAS, CHI). I think all 3 of GB, DAL and NYG can do that to them (score on them AND slow them down), and I think MIN, SD and KC can do one or the other enough to keep a close game. If they played ARI in Detroit, I'd give 'em that game, but since it's in ARI I think ARI has a decent chance to win, too.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Please don't demand apologies from Kitna doubters and bump this thread every week they get closer to 10 wins.

*smiles* Ok, I promise I won't. But this thread is just to see where people's heads are in terms of how good the Lions are. I fully admit that I was no where close to thinking the Lions would win 10 games at the beginning of this season.Now, I'm thinking they have about a 50/50 shot at winning 10 games, which is pretty darn good.

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

Sorry for the snide remark, IWBACBY, just teasing.

I love the fact that the Lions are good, are winning, and actually have some swagger. I actually hope they make some noise, count me among the few that likes Matt Millen. What Kitna lacks in talent he makes up for in leadership. The Lions play over their heads for him. Great job by everyone in that organization.

 

[Keepers]

If Detroit was playing SD at home would say that should be a win. With it being in SD, it is a coin toss. SD's 4 wins this year have come against team's with losing records .... Chicago, Denver, Oakland and a beat up Houston.

 

[aardball44]

Before the season started, I bet a friend Detroit would win more games than they would lose this season. An 8-8 record was a push.

With the Lions sitting at 6-2 today, I feel good about the bet. Still, looking at their remaining schedule, I can't see them winning more than ten games. I voted "yes", they'll finish 10-6...but it won't be easy.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

With 8 games left, all they have to do is finish 4-4 to reach 10 wins. Normally 10 wins is a lock for a playoff spot in the weaker NFC, but with the Giants and Redskins in the mix, Detroit will have to either win the division (Green Bay in their way) or out-win the Giants or Redskins. It could happen, but there's a lot of football left.

 

[encaitar]

With 8 games left, all they have to do is finish 4-4 to reach 10 wins. Normally 10 wins is a lock for a playoff spot in the weaker NFC, but with the Giants and Redskins in the mix, Detroit will have to either win the division (Green Bay in their way) or out-win the Giants or Redskins. It could happen, but there's a lot of football left.

Well, if the Lions win 10 games, they're in. Washington and New York have to play each other and both have games left against Dallas, amongst harder games. I think one of those two teams finishes at 9-7, most likely Washington and they may be lower than that. However, if Detroit does miss out at 10-6, it'll be a sad day for football. Who would want to watch a .500 team from the NFC West rather than a good Lions team in the playoffs. At least the Lions could put up a fight. Seattle or Arizona is just about as good as a bye in the playoffs.

 

[aardball44]

With 8 games left, all they have to do is finish 4-4 to reach 10 wins. Normally 10 wins is a lock for a playoff spot in the weaker NFC, but with the Giants and Redskins in the mix, Detroit will have to either win the division (Green Bay in their way) or out-win the Giants or Redskins. It could happen, but there's a lot of football left.

Well, if the Lions win 10 games, they're in. Washington and New York have to play each other and both have games left against Dallas, amongst harder games. I think one of those two teams finishes at 9-7, most likely Washington and they may be lower than that. However, if Detroit does miss out at 10-6, it'll be a sad day for football. Who would want to watch a .500 team from the NFC West rather than a good Lions team in the playoffs. At least the Lions could put up a fight. Seattle or Arizona is just about as good as a bye in the playoffs.

Wow. I never thought I'd read those words this season.The Lions have an abysmal playoff record over the past thirty years or so, finding themselves on the short end of a few blowouts along the way. To think they might provide stiff competition for anyone after New Year's Eve...wow.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

With 8 games left, all they have to do is finish 4-4 to reach 10 wins. Normally 10 wins is a lock for a playoff spot in the weaker NFC, but with the Giants and Redskins in the mix, Detroit will have to either win the division (Green Bay in their way) or out-win the Giants or Redskins. It could happen, but there's a lot of football left.

Well, if the Lions win 10 games, they're in. Washington and New York have to play each other and both have games left against Dallas, amongst harder games. I think one of those two teams finishes at 9-7, most likely Washington and they may be lower than that. However, if Detroit does miss out at 10-6, it'll be a sad day for football. Who would want to watch a .500 team from the NFC West rather than a good Lions team in the playoffs. At least the Lions could put up a fight. Seattle or Arizona is just about as good as a bye in the playoffs.

Wow. I never thought I'd read those words this season.The Lions have an abysmal playoff record over the past thirty years or so, finding themselves on the short end of a few blowouts along the way. To think they might provide stiff competition for anyone after New Year's Eve...wow.

To be specific, the Detroit Lions have 1 playoff win Since Super Bowl 1 which was against the Dallas Cowboys back in 1991. That's the only playoff win......that stat always blows my mind.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I think at Arizona, home vs Green Bay and home vs Kansas City get them to nine wins. If they can sneak out one of the others (I am thinking maybe the Giant game) they can do it.

No shot in hell. Best pass rush in football vs horrible offensive line and Kitna = sack fest

LOL, If you think Eli wont be getting sacked and turning the ball over on the road vs. the Lions D that leads the legue in takeaways, well you must be a giants homer

 

[LILB811]

I think at Arizona, home vs Green Bay and home vs Kansas City get them to nine wins. If they can sneak out one of the others (I am thinking maybe the Giant game) they can do it.

No shot in hell. Best pass rush in football vs horrible offensive line and Kitna = sack fest

LOL, If you think Eli wont be getting sacked and turning the ball over on the road vs. the Lions D that leads the legue in takeaways, well you must be a giants homer

My thoughts exactly. Were you saying the same thing last year about the Titans, Jags, and Eagles when the Giants stood at 6-2?? The Giants are 1-2 against teams with a winning record, and the Redskins game they probably shouldn't have won. 5-0 against the rest, and of those the Eagles are the only team that has won more than 2 games... going into week 10. The Eli Manning factor is undeniable. No shot in hell is a little over the top.

 

[sho nuff]

DET vs teams with winning records: 1-1DET vs teams with losing records: 5-1Not saying they are a fluke but Im not ready to crown them a good team yet.

Detroits wins came against opponents with a record of 24-33.Record of their future opponents...41-23.They could get to 10...but their best efforts have come against Griese (twice), Tarvaris Jackson, Patrick Ramsey, and Josh McCown.The one good win IMO was against Tampa. And the turnovers there were not forced by Detroit.

 

[sho nuff]

I think at Arizona, home vs Green Bay and home vs Kansas City get them to nine wins. If they can sneak out one of the others (I am thinking maybe the Giant game) they can do it.

No shot in hell. Best pass rush in football vs horrible offensive line and Kitna = sack fest

LOL, If you think Eli wont be getting sacked and turning the ball over on the road vs. the Lions D that leads the legue in takeaways, well you must be a giants homer

Look who the takeaways were against...the 2 against Tampa came on a botched handoff and a snap that Garcia could not handle.How many against Griese? Jackson? Ramsey? McCown?

Same defense that got lit up by Philly and Washington.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I think at Arizona, home vs Green Bay and home vs Kansas City get them to nine wins. If they can sneak out one of the others (I am thinking maybe the Giant game) they can do it.

No shot in hell. Best pass rush in football vs horrible offensive line and Kitna = sack fest

LOL, If you think Eli wont be getting sacked and turning the ball over on the road vs. the Lions D that leads the legue in takeaways, well you must be a giants homer

Look who the takeaways were against...the 2 against Tampa came on a botched handoff and a snap that Garcia could not handle.How many against Griese? Jackson? Ramsey? McCown?

Same defense that got lit up by Philly and Washington.

That was on the Road, Eli plays the Lions at Ford Field. The difference in the Lions D at home vs. Road is night and day. You dont have to believe me, Im just telling it like it is.

 

[sho nuff]

I think at Arizona, home vs Green Bay and home vs Kansas City get them to nine wins. If they can sneak out one of the others (I am thinking maybe the Giant game) they can do it.

No shot in hell. Best pass rush in football vs horrible offensive line and Kitna = sack fest

LOL, If you think Eli wont be getting sacked and turning the ball over on the road vs. the Lions D that leads the legue in takeaways, well you must be a giants homer

Look who the takeaways were against...the 2 against Tampa came on a botched handoff and a snap that Garcia could not handle.How many against Griese? Jackson? Ramsey? McCown?

Same defense that got lit up by Philly and Washington.

That was on the Road, Eli plays the Lions at Ford Field. The difference in the Lions D at home vs. Road is night and day. You dont have to believe me, Im just telling it like it is.

Look at the caliber of teams at home vs. on the road.Again...Griese, Tarvaris, and Ramsey.

The one good team was Tampa and Garcia had a pretty good day outside of the two unforced fumbles. Graham did pretty well also.

Tampa put up 422 yards of total offense.

 

[Hellfire Snail]

Can it just be said neither the Lions nor the Giants have played very good teams? Because they haven't. The Giants just scraped by winless Miami.

I hate to tell you but most of the teams with great records have played a lot of teams with crappy records. And as for naming all the bad qb's the Lions of faced, you might want to check out how many bad qb's there are in the league right now. There's a TON. It's almost impossible to play a team who doesn't have a crappy qb. When Cutler was in against the Lions he was getting buried and the Denver offense was doing nothing, so don't say the Lions won because they faced Patrick Ramsey. That game was a slaughter from the kick-off.

 

[sho nuff]

Can it just be said neither the Lions nor the Giants have played very good teams? Because they haven't. The Giants just scraped by winless Miami. I hate to tell you but most of the teams with great records have played a lot of teams with crappy records. And as for naming all the bad qb's the Lions of faced, you might want to check out how many bad qb's there are in the league right now. There's a TON. It's almost impossible to play a team who doesn't have a crappy qb. When Cutler was in against the Lions he was getting buried and the Denver offense was doing nothing, so don't say the Lions won because they faced Patrick Ramsey. That game was a slaughter from the kick-off.

It was 6-0 when Cutler went out.Ramsey led the team to 7 points...and gave the Lions 14.Not sure how its not important that Cutler was out.Yes, there are alot of bad QBs in the league right now.But down the stretch...the Lions face, Romo, Favre twice, Rivers, Eli...and so on. A bit different than feasting at the table that is Griese, Ramsey and Tarvaris as they have so far.

 

[LILB811]

Can it just be said neither the Lions nor the Giants have played very good teams? Because they haven't. The Giants just scraped by winless Miami.

I hate to tell you but most of the teams with great records have played a lot of teams with crappy records. And as for naming all the bad qb's the Lions of faced, you might want to check out how many bad qb's there are in the league right now. There's a TON. It's almost impossible to play a team who doesn't have a crappy qb. When Cutler was in against the Lions he was getting buried and the Denver offense was doing nothing, so don't say the Lions won because they faced Patrick Ramsey. That game was a slaughter from the kick-off.

It was 6-0 when Cutler went out.Ramsey led the team to 7 points...and gave the Lions 14.

Not sure how its not important that Cutler was out.

Yes, there are alot of bad QBs in the league right now.

But down the stretch...the Lions face, Romo, Favre twice, Rivers, Eli...and so on. A bit different than feasting at the table that is Griese, Ramsey and Tarvaris as they have so far.

Interception Leaders Overall, the teams they will play are better, but those QB's by no means are gonna avoid turnovers. I would've never guessed that last week they would dominate Denver like that. If Minnesota can beat San Diego and Chicago can beat Green Bay, you've gotta at least give this team a shot.

 

[Hellfire Snail]

Can it just be said neither the Lions nor the Giants have played very good teams? Because they haven't. The Giants just scraped by winless Miami. I hate to tell you but most of the teams with great records have played a lot of teams with crappy records. And as for naming all the bad qb's the Lions of faced, you might want to check out how many bad qb's there are in the league right now. There's a TON. It's almost impossible to play a team who doesn't have a crappy qb. When Cutler was in against the Lions he was getting buried and the Denver offense was doing nothing, so don't say the Lions won because they faced Patrick Ramsey. That game was a slaughter from the kick-off.

It was 6-0 when Cutler went out.Ramsey led the team to 7 points...and gave the Lions 14.Not sure how its not important that Cutler was out.Yes, there are alot of bad QBs in the league right now.But down the stretch...the Lions face, Romo, Favre twice, Rivers, Eli...and so on. A bit different than feasting at the table that is Griese, Ramsey and Tarvaris as they have so far.

First...are you saying Rivers is a good QB? I hope not.So I take it it's your belief this would have been a close game if Cutler had stayed in. I suppose we just disagree. The Denver o-line was getting blown up from start to finish. I'd also point out that Griese had been putting up some fat numbers against his opponents until the Lions tore him up.I don't think the Lion's secondary is very good, but the defensive line is extremely good. They are capable of delivering enormous pressure and that's what is leading to these turnovers. It doesn't matter if it's Favre or Eli back there--if the heat is on they aren't going to have stellar games. The reason Garcia completed a lot of passes is because he made extremely quick throws for 5 yard gains before the pressure could affect him. It didn't lead to many points, though.

 

[sho nuff]

Can it just be said neither the Lions nor the Giants have played very good teams? Because they haven't. The Giants just scraped by winless Miami. I hate to tell you but most of the teams with great records have played a lot of teams with crappy records. And as for naming all the bad qb's the Lions of faced, you might want to check out how many bad qb's there are in the league right now. There's a TON. It's almost impossible to play a team who doesn't have a crappy qb. When Cutler was in against the Lions he was getting buried and the Denver offense was doing nothing, so don't say the Lions won because they faced Patrick Ramsey. That game was a slaughter from the kick-off.

It was 6-0 when Cutler went out.Ramsey led the team to 7 points...and gave the Lions 14.Not sure how its not important that Cutler was out.Yes, there are alot of bad QBs in the league right now.But down the stretch...the Lions face, Romo, Favre twice, Rivers, Eli...and so on. A bit different than feasting at the table that is Griese, Ramsey and Tarvaris as they have so far.

First...are you saying Rivers is a good QB? I hope not.So I take it it's your belief this would have been a close game if Cutler had stayed in. I suppose we just disagree. The Denver o-line was getting blown up from start to finish. I'd also point out that Griese had been putting up some fat numbers against his opponents until the Lions tore him up.I don't think the Lion's secondary is very good, but the defensive line is extremely good. They are capable of delivering enormous pressure and that's what is leading to these turnovers. It doesn't matter if it's Favre or Eli back there--if the heat is on they aren't going to have stellar games. The reason Garcia completed a lot of passes is because he made extremely quick throws for 5 yard gains before the pressure could affect him. It didn't lead to many points, though.

Im saying Rivers is a decent QB with a good team around him and is playing at home.Yes, I think it would have been a much closer game and perhaps a different outcome had Cutler not been hurt. Not sure how its that big of a leap to think Cutler might fare better than Patrick Ramsey.