Knee Defender™ (1 Viewer)

[johnnycakes]

What say ye? If I ever fly coach again, I'm using these.

 

[Sheriff66]

If I wanted to recline, and you were using these, there would be a problem.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

If I wanted to recline, and you were using these, there would be a problem.

Problem as in you'd get really mad but get over it while drinking in your seat or problem as in MoP in a movie theater?

 

[johnnycakes]

If I wanted to recline, and you were using these, there would be a problem.

I would have to be sure to pack the "courtesy card":

This is a Knee Defender™ Courtesy Card™ I am using Knee Defender. Knee Defender is a small plastic device that helps me protect myself by limiting how much the seat in front of me can recline. I wanted to let you know about this and provide the following information:___ Unfortunately, my legs are so long that if you recline your seat at all it would immediately bang into my knees. ___ As best I can estimate, you could recline your seat about ____ inches without banging into my knees. If you would like to recline your seat this much at some point during the flight, please let me know and I will adjust my Knee Defender so that is possible. ___ If you would like to recline your seat at some point during the flight, please let me know and I will try to adjust myself and my Knee Defender so that it can be done safely. I realize that this may be an inconvenience. If so, I hope you will complain to the airline. Maybe working together we can convince the airlines to provide enough space between rows so that people can recline their seats without banging into other passengers. Thank you for your understanding.

 

[Wild Young Billy]

People who recline their seats on airplanes are inconsiderate ####s with no regard to anyone around them.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

pretty cool.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

If I wanted to recline, and you were using these, there would be a problem.

I would have to be sure to pack the "courtesy card":

This is a Knee Defender™ Courtesy Card™ I am using Knee Defender. Knee Defender is a small plastic device that helps me protect myself by limiting how much the seat in front of me can recline. I wanted to let you know about this and provide the following information:___ Unfortunately, my legs are so long that if you recline your seat at all it would immediately bang into my knees. ___ As best I can estimate, you could recline your seat about ____ inches without banging into my knees. If you would like to recline your seat this much at some point during the flight, please let me know and I will adjust my Knee Defender so that is possible. ___ If you would like to recline your seat at some point during the flight, please let me know and I will try to adjust myself and my Knee Defender so that it can be done safely. I realize that this may be an inconvenience. If so, I hope you will complain to the airline. Maybe working together we can convince the airlines to provide enough space between rows so that people can recline their seats without banging into other passengers. Thank you for your understanding.

not sure you would like where the sheriff put the "courtesy card" when he gave it back to you.....

 

[BigJohn]

People who recline their seats on airplanes are inconsiderate ####s with no regard to anyone around them.

Last year, flew the kids to Maui. On the 5+ hour flight back from Maui to LA, this uppity old ##### in the seat in front of us had the audacity to lean her seat all the way back on my wife who was holding my 2 year old son. Then, on top of that, had the nerve to keep looking back and grunting every time he touched her seat. I have never gone MOP in public, but I still regret, to this day, not giving that #### an epic earful.

 

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I'm going to order a set and lock the seat in front in an upright position, then lean my seat all the way back to maximize my in-flight experience.

 

[BRONG]

People who recline their seats on airplanes are inconsiderate ####s with no regard to anyone around them.

Last year, flew the kids to Maui. On the 5+ hour flight back from Maui to LA, this uppity old ##### in the seat in front of my wife had the audacity to lean her seat all the way back on my wife who was holding my 2 year old son. Then, on top of that, had the nerve to keep looking back and grunting every time he touched her seat. I have never gone MOP in public, but I still regret, to this day, not giving that #### an epic earful.

Fine, but there is not much worse than having a kid continuously bump your seat. And on a 5+ flight? Brutal.

 

[moleculo]

Maybe I find sitting in an unreclined airline seat extremely uncomfortable, to the point of causing me back pain?

It's my position that reclining my seat is my God-given, unalienable right, and any device preventing me from doing so is intruding on my rights.

I will routinely, and unapologetically, recline my seat to the furthest extent as soon as possible, and won't move it back to the upright position until the stewardess instructs me to. If that's a problem for someone sitting behind me, and they were to ask politely that I not do as such, I will comply with of courtesy and respect. However, any attempt to prevent me form reclining without prior consent will be met with complaints to the stewardesses, dirty looks, and any other assorted passive-aggressive behaviors I can come up with.

If it's that big of a deal to you long-legged-mack-daddies, I'd suggest you sit only in exit rows or in the front row where there are no seats in front of you.

 

[moleculo]

People who recline their seats on airplanes are inconsiderate ####s with no regard to anyone around them.

Last year, flew the kids to Maui. On the 5+ hour flight back from Maui to LA, this uppity old ##### in the seat in front of us had the audacity to lean her seat all the way back on my wife who was holding my 2 year old son. Then, on top of that, had the nerve to keep looking back and grunting every time he touched her seat. I have never gone MOP in public, but I still regret, to this day, not giving that #### an epic earful.

did you politely ask the person in front of you to move the seat up? It's likely they were unaware of your situation.

 

[BigJohn]

People who recline their seats on airplanes are inconsiderate ####s with no regard to anyone around them.

Last year, flew the kids to Maui. On the 5+ hour flight back from Maui to LA, this uppity old ##### in the seat in front of my wife had the audacity to lean her seat all the way back on my wife who was holding my 2 year old son. Then, on top of that, had the nerve to keep looking back and grunting every time he touched her seat. I have never gone MOP in public, but I still regret, to this day, not giving that #### an epic earful.

Fine, but there is not much worse than having a kid continuously bump your seat. And on a 5+ flight? Brutal.

When the seat is crammed in his face, he has nowhere to go. You want relaxing room, buy 1st class.

 

[moleculo]

People who recline their seats on airplanes are inconsiderate ####s with no regard to anyone around them.

Last year, flew the kids to Maui. On the 5+ hour flight back from Maui to LA, this uppity old ##### in the seat in front of my wife had the audacity to lean her seat all the way back on my wife who was holding my 2 year old son. Then, on top of that, had the nerve to keep looking back and grunting every time he touched her seat. I have never gone MOP in public, but I still regret, to this day, not giving that #### an epic earful.

Fine, but there is not much worse than having a kid continuously bump your seat. And on a 5+ flight? Brutal.

When the seat is crammed in his face, he has nowhere to go. You want relaxing room, buy 1st class.

if you want room for a lap child, but 1st class.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I'm going to order a set and lock the seat in front in an upright position, then lean my seat all the way back to maximize my in-flight experience.

#######!

 

[BigJohn]

People who recline their seats on airplanes are inconsiderate ####s with no regard to anyone around them.

Last year, flew the kids to Maui. On the 5+ hour flight back from Maui to LA, this uppity old ##### in the seat in front of us had the audacity to lean her seat all the way back on my wife who was holding my 2 year old son. Then, on top of that, had the nerve to keep looking back and grunting every time he touched her seat. I have never gone MOP in public, but I still regret, to this day, not giving that #### an epic earful.

did you politely ask the person in front of you to move the seat up? It's likely they were unaware of your situation.

He wasn't being obnoxious. There was never any major bumping going on. She was glaring at every single movement. She was wearing headphones, and I could tell "politely asking" her would have done no good.

 

[BigJohn]

People who recline their seats on airplanes are inconsiderate ####s with no regard to anyone around them.

Last year, flew the kids to Maui. On the 5+ hour flight back from Maui to LA, this uppity old ##### in the seat in front of my wife had the audacity to lean her seat all the way back on my wife who was holding my 2 year old son. Then, on top of that, had the nerve to keep looking back and grunting every time he touched her seat. I have never gone MOP in public, but I still regret, to this day, not giving that #### an epic earful.

Fine, but there is not much worse than having a kid continuously bump your seat. And on a 5+ flight? Brutal.

When the seat is crammed in his face, he has nowhere to go. You want relaxing room, buy 1st class.

if you want room for a lap child, but 1st class.

Nope.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Maybe I find sitting in an unreclined airline seat extremely uncomfortable, to the point of causing me back pain?It's my position that reclining my seat is my God-given, unalienable right, and any device preventing me from doing so is intruding on my rights.I will routinely, and unapologetically, recline my seat to the furthest extent as soon as possible, and won't move it back to the upright position until the stewardess instructs me to. If that's a problem for someone sitting behind me, and they were to ask politely that I not do as such, I will comply with of courtesy and respect. However, any attempt to prevent me form reclining without prior consent will be met with complaints to the stewardesses, dirty looks, and any other assorted passive-aggressive behaviors I can come up with.If it's that big of a deal to you long-legged-mack-daddies, I'd suggest you sit only in exit rows or in the front row where there are no seats in front of you.

When you do that, I am going to stick my knee up your ###, so that your back will be in even more pain from having invaded my space.Not many things more rude than a person who reclines the seat with no regard to the people around them.

 

[BigJohn]

Maybe I find sitting in an unreclined airline seat extremely uncomfortable, to the point of causing me back pain?It's my position that reclining my seat is my God-given, unalienable right, and any device preventing me from doing so is intruding on my rights.I will routinely, and unapologetically, recline my seat to the furthest extent as soon as possible, and won't move it back to the upright position until the stewardess instructs me to. If that's a problem for someone sitting behind me, and they were to ask politely that I not do as such, I will comply with of courtesy and respect. However, any attempt to prevent me form reclining without prior consent will be met with complaints to the stewardesses, dirty looks, and any other assorted passive-aggressive behaviors I can come up with.If it's that big of a deal to you long-legged-mack-daddies, I'd suggest you sit only in exit rows or in the front row where there are no seats in front of you.

When you do that, I am going to stick my knee up your ###, so that your back will be in even more pain from having invaded my space.Not many things more rude than a person who reclines the seat with no regard to the people around them.

Amen. ####ers.

 

[Christo]

If I wanted to recline, and you were using these, there would be a problem.

For you.

 

[Wild Young Billy]

If the person in front of me has the unalienable right to recline their seat, I have the unalienable right to do whatever I want to the food tray attached their seat. I like to see how high I can propel peanuts and pretzels from the food tray by pulling down on it and releasing it.

 

[moleculo]

Maybe I find sitting in an unreclined airline seat extremely uncomfortable, to the point of causing me back pain?It's my position that reclining my seat is my God-given, unalienable right, and any device preventing me from doing so is intruding on my rights.I will routinely, and unapologetically, recline my seat to the furthest extent as soon as possible, and won't move it back to the upright position until the stewardess instructs me to. If that's a problem for someone sitting behind me, and they were to ask politely that I not do as such, I will comply with of courtesy and respect. However, any attempt to prevent me form reclining without prior consent will be met with complaints to the stewardesses, dirty looks, and any other assorted passive-aggressive behaviors I can come up with.If it's that big of a deal to you long-legged-mack-daddies, I'd suggest you sit only in exit rows or in the front row where there are no seats in front of you.

When you do that, I am going to stick my knee up your ###, so that your back will be in even more pain from having invaded my space.Not many things more rude than a person who reclines the seat with no regard to the people around them.

you might try.ETA: why would you prefer to do this, as opposed to politely asking if I would position my seat up? what ever happened to civility? If I do something that makes you uncomfortable, IMO it's on you to seek redress. It's not on me to look behind me and ask if it's ok with you to recline.

 

[Sheriff66]

If I wanted to recline, and you were using these, there would be a problem.

Problem as in you'd get really mad but get over it while drinking in your seat or problem as in MoP in a movie theater?

The smell of tuna would be in the air.

 

[Sheriff66]

If I wanted to recline, and you were using these, there would be a problem.

For you.

Not so much, I would take care of the "contraptions" myself if need be.

 

[BRONG]

People who recline their seats on airplanes are inconsiderate ####s with no regard to anyone around them.

Last year, flew the kids to Maui. On the 5+ hour flight back from Maui to LA, this uppity old ##### in the seat in front of my wife had the audacity to lean her seat all the way back on my wife who was holding my 2 year old son. Then, on top of that, had the nerve to keep looking back and grunting every time he touched her seat. I have never gone MOP in public, but I still regret, to this day, not giving that #### an epic earful.

Fine, but there is not much worse than having a kid continuously bump your seat. And on a 5+ flight? Brutal.

When the seat is crammed in his face, he has nowhere to go. You want relaxing room, buy 1st class.

Fine, but there is not much worse than having a kid continuously bump your seat. And on a 5+ flight? Brutal.

 

[moleculo]

If the person in front of me has the unalienable right to recline their seat, I have the unalienable right to do whatever I want to the food tray attached their seat. I like to see how high I can propel peanuts and pretzels from the food tray by pulling down on it and releasing it.

again - why would you simply not politely ask that the person re-position his seat?

 

[Sinn Fein]

If the person in front of me has the unalienable right to recline their seat, I have the unalienable right to do whatever I want to the food tray attached their seat. I like to see how high I can propel peanuts and pretzels from the food tray by pulling down on it and releasing it.

again - why would you simply not politely ask that the person re-position his seat?

Why wouldn't you politely ask the person behind you if they mind if you recline your seat?

 

[BigJohn]

People who recline their seats on airplanes are inconsiderate ####s with no regard to anyone around them.

Last year, flew the kids to Maui. On the 5+ hour flight back from Maui to LA, this uppity old ##### in the seat in front of my wife had the audacity to lean her seat all the way back on my wife who was holding my 2 year old son. Then, on top of that, had the nerve to keep looking back and grunting every time he touched her seat. I have never gone MOP in public, but I still regret, to this day, not giving that #### an epic earful.

Fine, but there is not much worse than having a kid continuously bump your seat. And on a 5+ flight? Brutal.

When the seat is crammed in his face, he has nowhere to go. You want relaxing room, buy 1st class.

Fine, but there is not much worse than having a kid continuously bump your seat. And on a 5+ flight? Brutal.

But, do you think leaning your seat back is a constructive way to help the situation?

 

[moleculo]

If the person in front of me has the unalienable right to recline their seat, I have the unalienable right to do whatever I want to the food tray attached their seat. I like to see how high I can propel peanuts and pretzels from the food tray by pulling down on it and releasing it.

again - why would you simply not politely ask that the person re-position his seat?

Why wouldn't you politely ask the person behind you if they mind if you recline your seat?

because it's difficult to turn around in an airplane seat and look over the top of the seat, particularly for someone of my height and with a bad back?

 

[Wild Young Billy]

If the person in front of me has the unalienable right to recline their seat, I have the unalienable right to do whatever I want to the food tray attached their seat. I like to see how high I can propel peanuts and pretzels from the food tray by pulling down on it and releasing it.

again - why would you simply not politely ask that the person re-position his seat?

I was kidding.

 

[Sheriff66]

If the person in front of me has the unalienable right to recline their seat, I have the unalienable right to do whatever I want to the food tray attached their seat. I like to see how high I can propel peanuts and pretzels from the food tray by pulling down on it and releasing it.

again - why would you simply not politely ask that the person re-position his seat?

Don't lock my seat up like your the boss of this plane, I paid for my seat.

 

[moleculo]

People who recline their seats on airplanes are inconsiderate ####s with no regard to anyone around them.

Last year, flew the kids to Maui. On the 5+ hour flight back from Maui to LA, this uppity old ##### in the seat in front of my wife had the audacity to lean her seat all the way back on my wife who was holding my 2 year old son. Then, on top of that, had the nerve to keep looking back and grunting every time he touched her seat. I have never gone MOP in public, but I still regret, to this day, not giving that #### an epic earful.

Fine, but there is not much worse than having a kid continuously bump your seat. And on a 5+ flight? Brutal.

When the seat is crammed in his face, he has nowhere to go. You want relaxing room, buy 1st class.

Fine, but there is not much worse than having a kid continuously bump your seat. And on a 5+ flight? Brutal.

But, do you think leaning your seat back is a constructive way to help the situation?

can you give me an example of a constructive way to help the situation?

 

[Arizona Ron]

Just by the airline

 

[Bogeys]

If I am not mistaken most airlines do not allow them and will confiscate them if found.

YMMV

 

[Sinn Fein]

If the person in front of me has the unalienable right to recline their seat, I have the unalienable right to do whatever I want to the food tray attached their seat. I like to see how high I can propel peanuts and pretzels from the food tray by pulling down on it and releasing it.

again - why would you simply not politely ask that the person re-position his seat?

Don't lock my seat up like your the boss of this plane, I paid for my seat.

I paid for the tray - I'll put whatever I want on the tray imo.

 

[BigJohn]

People who recline their seats on airplanes are inconsiderate ####s with no regard to anyone around them.

Last year, flew the kids to Maui. On the 5+ hour flight back from Maui to LA, this uppity old ##### in the seat in front of my wife had the audacity to lean her seat all the way back on my wife who was holding my 2 year old son. Then, on top of that, had the nerve to keep looking back and grunting every time he touched her seat. I have never gone MOP in public, but I still regret, to this day, not giving that #### an epic earful.

Fine, but there is not much worse than having a kid continuously bump your seat. And on a 5+ flight? Brutal.

When the seat is crammed in his face, he has nowhere to go. You want relaxing room, buy 1st class.

Fine, but there is not much worse than having a kid continuously bump your seat. And on a 5+ flight? Brutal.

But, do you think leaning your seat back is a constructive way to help the situation?

can you give me an example of a constructive way to help the situation?

Using your brain. "Well, she is holding a kid, so maybe I will be courteous an leave my seat upright. Also, there will be less chance he will hit my seat and disrupt me. Win - win." Basically, don't be an ###hole.

 

[Sheriff66]

If the person in front of me has the unalienable right to recline their seat, I have the unalienable right to do whatever I want to the food tray attached their seat. I like to see how high I can propel peanuts and pretzels from the food tray by pulling down on it and releasing it.

again - why would you simply not politely ask that the person re-position his seat?

Don't lock my seat up like your the boss of this plane, I paid for my seat.

I paid for the tray - I'll put whatever I want on the tray imo.

That's your right, but be prepared for the repercussions of your choice.

 

[Uwe Blab]

Sorry, if you lean your seat back I'm not going to care if my 2 year old bumps your seat from time to time. I'm not going to let him play the drums or anything, but if he nudges it, "oops".

 

[tdoss]

If you lean your seat on my knees...I will bump your seat continuously as if I were in the next "Lord of the Dance" production.

 

[Uwe Blab]

By the way, there sure seems to be a lot seething anger under the surface in a lot of this thread. What have the airlines turned us all into? Its Lord of Flies out there....

 

[3C's]

Just by the airline

What is?

 

[aquateen]

I can deal with the person who leans their seat back, but what about these people who think it's OK to just drop a fart on a crowded plane? Is there a product for that?

 

[Christo]

If I wanted to recline, and you were using these, there would be a problem.

For you.

Not so much, I would take care of the "contraptions" myself if need be.

Good luck.

 

[Christo]

If the person in front of me has the unalienable right to recline their seat, I have the unalienable right to do whatever I want to the food tray attached their seat. I like to see how high I can propel peanuts and pretzels from the food tray by pulling down on it and releasing it.

again - why would you simply not politely ask that the person re-position his seat?

Did you ask before you reclined?

 

[Wild Young Billy]

If I wanted to recline, and you were using these, there would be a problem.

For you.

Not so much, I would take care of the "contraptions" myself if need be.

Good luck.

iFight!! iFight!

 

[Sheriff66]

If I wanted to recline, and you were using these, there would be a problem.

For you.

Not so much, I would take care of the "contraptions" myself if need be.

Good luck.

iFight!! iFight!

 

[Exit 1]

at people threatening to start #### on an airplane. That's probably the last place that you would want to start a physical confrontation.

 

[Osaurus]

Will these things be modified once they make you stand/lean the whole flight?

 

[Sinn Fein]

I can deal with the person who leans their seat back, but what about these people who think it's OK to just drop a fart on a crowded plane? Is there a product for that?

Maybe the airlines should offer this?

 

[Sheriff66]

at people threatening to start #### on an airplane. That's probably the last place that you would want to start a physical confrontation.

I never said start a fight, but you would be told to take them off my seat