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You said he was serviceable but not solid. How is that not saying he isn't good?
Short bench, can only carry 3 rb's 
I think they will use RB more going forward...just don't think this is the week for it.
But ... but ... CBS already has him projected for 10.7 points this week!
I like Montgomery as a flex play lots of short passes like last week acting as the run game.But ... but ... CBS already has him projected for 10.7 points this week!
FWIW, I think you're 100% right and Rodgers is gonna throw until his arm falls off this week. I'm forced to trot Knile out in one league where I'm completely out of RB options, but if I get 13/40 and a 50/50 shot at a TD I'll call it a win.
I am all over the place? Let's talk reality. We are talking about fantasy football where you want players who score TDs and gain yards. When it comes to running backs, it is preferable to have running backs who can garner 100 yards and catch the ball out of the backfield. Somehow you have stuck yourself to this fat tub of goo and now you feel you have to defend him.sho nuff said:
Montgomery essentially played the Starks role on Sunday afternoon and has a career game. The commentators on that game mentioned that Aaron Rodgers told them that RB "might be his [Montgomery's] best position." Starks has kinda sucked all year, but his primary value to the Packers over the last few years has been in the screen game. Green Bay targets very athletic linemen that can get out on screen plays and block downfield. Montgomery brought an element of that back last week that's been missing from the offense. Starks is also out a month, and Lacy could potentially be headed to IR. Even if Lacy returns in a month, Montgomery's role as the Starks-type back is stable for the next few weeks IMO. If he shines... well... can't put that genie back in the bottle, as they say. Starks is averaging 1.8 YPC this year and is 30 years old. He's not invincible.
To add this this, if Monty gains RB eligibility in Yahoo, he would have def been the pick up for Lacy owners.
If you were in my league I would.renesauz said:Jerome Bettis always looked like a fat tub too...and was awfully effective anyway.
Anyone hating on Lacy is free to trade him to me cheap.
Let's unpack this a little bit...
This isn't a bad assessment. I disagree regarding Davis' abilities but I can agree to disagree on that; we won't know until he actually plays. GB has done better with worse RBs (Samkon Gado for instance). I have been touting Montgomery on a few threads here, starting about 2.5 weeks ago. I am not sure if I see a complete change to RB for him in the immediate future or not. He does add a more receiving option, kind of how we all hoped McCluster would turn out to be all those years. I picked up Montgomery and am starting him this week at flex over Diggs, Crowell, Ajayi as my alternative options.
Maybe that's the problem. GB doesn't look too great this season. Do we expect them to continue with the status quo assuming it will eventually change? Most Packer fans would agree with me and say they wouldn't be surprised, knowing McCarthy, if things didn't change; but if they don't change it and their offense doesn't turn it around, IMO McCarthy is looking for a job in the offseason
GB has done well with some bad RBs - that's true... I guess my question, if we're betting on bad RBs, is why we wouldn't bet on the guy that's been there, working with the team, who they liked enough to keep on the PS over the guy they gave up a conditional 7th rounder 2 years from now for?This isn't a bad assessment. I disagree regarding Davis' abilities but I can agree to disagree on that; we won't know until he actually plays. GB has done better with worse RBs (Samkon Gado for instance). I have been touting Montgomery on a few threads here, starting about 2.5 weeks ago. I am not sure if I see a complete change to RB for him in the immediate future or not. He does add a more receiving option, kind of how we all hoped McCluster would turn out to be all those years. I picked up Montgomery and am starting him this week at flex over Diggs, Crowell, Ajayi as my alternative options.
Seeing Montgomery add something different to the rushing game/offense is intriguing and it could be just what GB needs ot be competitive. "can't put that genie back in the bottle" is a good statement. Once you see what he can do how can you not try to give him the ball more? At the end of the day I think this could be real interesting moving forward. Glad I grabbed Montgomery. Hope you all listened to me in early October
To me -- Montgomery's your potential season changer... he's a Theo Riddick type in the passing game, but he's built like a between-the-tackles bruiser.
I agree. Obviously exciting imagining his potential not only as a fantasy player/owner but as a GB fan/owner
And here I was all disappointed that I didn't get Kniles Davis on WW. At least you've given me hope that Ty might amount to something more than a 1 week guy.
You're arguing against me saying he was "productive" (in the past) and taking away his TDs? I stated he wasn't very efficient as a player, but there's no denying he was productive. I saw him play quite a bit and many of those TDs were earned. He didn't just plunge in from the one yard line through a gaping hole.
It's hard to believe Davis will understand the entire playbook as well as audibles and be comfortable with everything over the course of the next couple of days/weeks even.
I would agree. I was surprised that Forsett played last week. But Davis has even less time than Forsett did. So I wouldn't be surprised if he suited up due to their dire need of RBs, but expecting a heavy workload or anything of that nature I thought would be too optimistic. I was thinking beyond this week. Montgomery certainly has some relevance now. I guess it all depends on how well he does. Perhaps a Theo Riddick type role would be a pretty good scenario for a WW pickup.
Yes, if Montgomery does well tonight it'd be hard to justify putting him on the bench or at WR exclusively, although Adams is hurt. Hopefully Abby can step into that role well and Montgomery can play the McCluster role, and hopefully very effectively (for selfish reasons of course). If he does well in that role I think it's hard to put him on the bench just because the number on his back doesn't match up with running backs.
Wasn't directed at you per se, though I realize I quoted you. I was trying to inform the board overall by replying to the idea he's been a top-27 RB the vast majority of times he gets double digit touches. I don't think his TD-rate is sustainable...
Someone will... I'm not sure that's Knile as he's just not a very good RB. He's a good athlete, but let's see how it plays out before anointing him.
Neither am I, but the Lacy news certainly opens it up for him in the mid to long term for this season. Tonight will obviously be the melange of the WRs and maybe some of him sprinkled in, but you'd have to think that at least for the 3 games that follow he'll have a chance to stake a good claim. Don Jackson obviously being the unknown quantity right now.
Yeah - I mean, my read on the situation is out there in all three player threads. I think Montgomery gets the biggest boost in a Riddick-type role, but his combine was basically a mirror image of David Johnson's, and Rogers was quoted on the broadcast as saying RB may be Montgomery's best position. It's plausible to me he's the answer here.
A poor RB wouldn't have avgd 13.8 fantasy points in his 6 lifetime 10+touch games. Been praying for Belichick to trade for this guy since Ware blew everyone away beating out CWest, him and now JCharles, apparently. Got a feeling he's not a good practice guy, though, so he might not be a factor tonite.
I unpacked that stat yesterday... it's not as impressive as it sounds. He has 9 games of 10+ touches. He's basically not been a JAG in 2 of those games. He's scored a TD in 7 of those 9 games... is that sustainable? I'm skeptical... I'll repeat: What can the RB control (at least more than goal line carries)? His efficiency, and Davis just isn't very efficient. And given the success of the other KC backs, I think it's a fool's errand to blame the OL. Even looking at these 9 games (the absolute best games of his career), he averaged 3.6 YPC... AND he has more games below 3 YPC (3) as he does above 4 YPC (2).
Exactly. I guess people will see what they want to see. I don't even own Davis and I would flat out say he will be the bell cow at some point. Montgomery is interesting because if he continues tonight to show that he can transition and give the Packers a sort of hybrid back then he might create a position for himself that would put him in a Riddick type role. That I am hoping for as I am a Montgomery owner, but I can absolutely see a scenario where he is transitioned back to WR when Davis gets the playbook, Starks is back, and Jackson is relegated to 3rd string2ksports said:
I think this is something that is being overlooked but people desperate for their savior at RB - The Packers had a RB that was much better than Davis and (presumedly) Jackson and he wasn't very fantasy relevant.
I have seen several respected FF analysts suggest that Lacy be a buy low. Actually, as the news broke about his injury possibly being more serious, one of the analysts had just recommended him to be a buy low. He was productive, but that offense has looked like hot garbage this year (and last). I think the hope is that if the production is there, McCarthy has to at least consider featuring the RB more. Perhaps it's time he gave the playcalling duties away again.
