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Knile Davis traded to Green Bay (1 Viewer)

SameSongNDance said:
I've spent the better part of the week ####ting on Davis but he went unclaimed in one league and was just sitting on the waivers so I felt obligated to pick him up, especially in light of the Lacy news.

This entire backfield feels like a trap seeing as how McCarthy failed to take advantage of a RB who was actually performing well but who knows. 
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I picked up Don ahead of Knile but then broke down and dropped my backup D to roster Knile as well. I'm of the same opine as JFS171, that Knile is a better athlete than RB. If RB whisperer Andy Reid could not make this guy efficient, then it's probably a stretch to expect McCarthy to do so. That said, Don is a complete unknown and could utterly suck, opening the door for Knile to get the volume he needs to be a decent RB2. It's worth waiting and seeing for a week or two if rosters allow IMO.

 
ATB said:
Knile Davis career highlights. 

Fast-forward to about 6:40 for NFL highlights. 

So many are underestimating this dude. He's gonna breakout and get paaaaaaid. 
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He's big and fast and can run straight, and understands none of the nuance of the position, or blocking schemes.  That usually doesn't get paid in the NFL.  That gets traded for conditional 7th rounders.

 
Tommy Collins said:
I have seen several respected FF analysts suggest that Lacy be a buy low. Actually, as the news broke about his injury possibly being more serious, one of the analysts had just recommended him to be a buy low. He was productive, but that offense has looked like hot garbage this year (and last). I think the hope is that if the production is there, McCarthy has to at least consider featuring the RB more. Perhaps it's time he gave the playcalling duties away again.
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Dear God no... That was even worse. GB needs to clean house this offseason. 

 
I picked up Davis in 2 dynasty leagues but didn't bid high on him. He's an easy drop in a couple of weeks if he looks like a backup level player, but there's some intriguing upside to him. I'd probably try and trade him if he had a good week.

 
JFS171 said:
He's big and fast and can run straight, and understands none of the nuance of the position, or blocking schemes.  That usually doesn't get paid in the NFL.  That gets traded for conditional 7th rounders.
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Like CMike?

 
Ran right into his OLinemen and crumbled. Did not look awesome. But granted, its earlyin his GB career and a very small sample size. 

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Michael struggled the whole time in Dallas, then got cut.
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And then Seattle scooped him back up and he's their bellcow. 

Point being: you can't discern how a guy will perform or produce based on what he was traded for. It just comes down to opportunity and situation a lotta times. 

 
The West Coast scheme just doesn't fit him. I think he Is just emergency insurance until Starks comes back.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
but...but...Bronco Billy says he wasn't productive.
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So this is how it's going to be, huh?

Davis so far in 2016: 3 carries, -1 yd. Championship!

The guy has spent his entire career below 4.0 ypc. And that's running behind a KC line that run blocks a hell of a lot better than GB's does.  He was locked into the RB2 behind Charles and promptly lost his job to not one but two out-of-nowhere no-name young RBs. 

He's like Samkon Gado - you aim him at a hole and hope it is open when he gets there, because he gets nothing on his own. 

Enjoy owning him. I saw better options in the backfield last night than this turd - and 2 of them were WRs. 

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Bronco Billy said:
So this is how it's going to be, huh?

Davis so far in 2016: 3 carries, -1 yd. Championship!

The guy has spent his entire career below 4.0 ypc. And that's running behind a KC line that run blocks a hell of a lot better than GB's does.  He was locked into the RB2 behind Charles and promptly lost his job to not one but two out-of-nowhere no-name young RBs. 

He's like Samkon Gado - you aim him at a hole and hope it is open when he gets there, because he gets nothing on his own. 

Enjoy owning him. I saw better options in the backfield last night than this turd - and 2 of them were WRs. 

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my sarcasm filter isn't working right now, but really. 2 days in a system and running against a defense that knew a run was coming? If it happens next week, then yes I throw the towel in on the whole situation, but I am giving it a week.

 
montana_grizzly_bears said:
my sarcasm filter isn't working right now, but really. 2 days in a system and running against a defense that knew a run was coming? If it happens next week, then yes I throw the towel in on the whole situation, but I am giving it a week.
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I don't blame anyone for throwing darts this time of the year. but apparently some here get their panties all twisted up in a knot if you criticize the dart they chose to throw. 

This is this kid's 4th year in the league, and up until now he has played on a team where every RB has had success running the ball lately - except Davis. He is a great athlete, but he has no vision, no wiggle and he can't create anything for himself. Now he is going to a team that does not run block nearly as well as KC does. 

Maybe he'll change completely and be great. Who knows? But some here simply want to deny his history to date because they think he has an opportunity to be a stud suddenly. Opportunity doesn't change his myriad short comings as a RB. 

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Bronco Billy said:
I don't blame anyone for throwing darts this time of the year. but apparently some here get their panties all twisted up in a knot if you criticize the dart they chose to throw. 

This is this kid's 4th year in the league, and up until now he has played on a team where every RB has had success running the ball lately - except Davis. He is a great athlete, but he has no vision, no wiggle and he can't create anything for himself. Now he is going to a team that does not run block nearly as well as KC does. 

Maybe he'll change completely and be great. Who knows? But some here simply want to deny his history to date because they think he has an opportunity to be a stud suddenly. Opportunity doesn't change his myriad short comings as a RB. 

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Alex Smith < Aaron Rodgers.    I see you conveniently leave that out.

Bottom line is, if you picked up Davis looking at the next three games you are sitting in a better position today than you were Thursday before the game. 

Not like Eddy Lacy has been "creating things for himself".   

 
thatguythere said:
Alex Smith < Aaron Rodgers.    I see you conveniently leave that out.

Bottom line is, if you picked up Davis looking at the next three games you are sitting in a better position today than you were Thursday before the game. 

Not like Eddy Lacy has been "creating things for himself".   
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So Smith is the reason KC's RBs "suck"?

 
The last time I watched him play he wasn't playing well but when you have a size/speed combo like Knile Davis you have a punchers chance. He could be the pick up of the year. I'm not saying it's likely becausr Ty Montgomery could take most of the passing down work but it's in his range. 

 
Seems to me that Davis (on paper at least) has a chance to have some value here. No doubt that Montgomery has some value, but the man isn't a rb. I wouldn't be too concerned about the practice squad rb they just promoted to the team...Shouldn't Davis at least have #3 rb value going forward?

 
I do have concern about the wear and tear. Monte has had his er 'illness' limiting him this week but I am guessing he is pretty beat up from that workload last week.

 
Just scooped him up in my league as week 9 is my bye-pocalypse. Curious to see what he's got this week with some actual legit time learning the O.

 
Well, in the interest of being completely honest, I just added him after CJA went to IR. 

Doesn't change my opinion - he's a dart, but the one of the better ones in FA at this point in the season. Samkon Gado did have some value under similar circumstances in GB. 

 
I mean, let's be honest we're not picking him up because we're stacked at the position.  With Rawls & Martin still out, I have Ware and Gillislee starting so I'm just hoping for the best out of KD.

 
I'm pretty stacked with Gurley, Elliott, and Ware but I'm picking him up anyway.  We're picking him up because he might be the GB RB and no one wants to miss out on that or, worse, let another owner have it.

 
Is the GB RB position really that valuable though anymore? They rank dead last this year in terms of Fantasy production from the RB position.

I thought Lacy actually looked pretty damn good this year running the ball, and if he can only average 7-8 points per game in that offense I doubt Knile Davis is going to win many leagues down the stretch.

Of course pick him up if your RB's stink as there's always a chance he does what Hightower did at the end of last year for NO, but I dropped him this week and didn't hesitate at all.

 
Bronco Billy said:
Well that was a FA $ well spent...
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Not to mention draft compensation the Packers paid.  Unusual to see a coach and a GM give up so quickly.  To do so is admitting to an error.  Me, I'm glad they admitted to an error and are willing to take whatever heat that entails rather than continuing on  out of stubbornness.

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
Not to mention draft compensation the Packers paid.  Unusual to see a coach and a GM give up so quickly.  To do so is admitting to an error.  Me, I'm glad they admitted to an error and are willing to take whatever heat that entails rather than continuing on  out of stubbornness.
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They gave up nothing?  The pick was conditional...

 
kcfflguy said:
My guess is he's not good and Starks is close to being back
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Someone either in this thread or somewhere else made a comment that he is kind of a blockhead. It is possible that he just wasn't showing a good grasp of the playbook. Or, as you suggest, Starks is close and they are quite comfortable with what they have.

I think this speaks more to them being very pleased with what they have with Montgomery and especially Ripkowski. Ripkowski has grown leaps and bounds since being drafted last year and looks like a better, younger Kuhn. That's a great thing. Ripkowski can't carry the load but he can take the short yardage stuff and be effective in a certain role. Then you add Jackson and Starks and you have the makings of a pretty decent RBBC. Montgomery gives you that x-factor if being in a Riddick type role.

To the comments either in this thread or the GBP thread suggesting GB is a "RB wasteland:" maybe for fantasy purposes you are correct, but not many teams these days run a workhorse back. Ingram was thought to be one of the few out there and now look, he's in a RBBC. Tampa Bay has a stud but shares time. GB may be a fantasy nightmare for folks, but what they have has worked for them in the past and I think they have a decent combination here of Montgomery and some complimentary RBs. It is going to be interesting to watch, that's for sure.

As for Knile... he can always tell his grandkids about how he played 2 games with one of the greatest QBs ever... 

 
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