Kolb to start in week 6 (1 Viewer)

[eaglezzz]

I am interested to see how Kolb does this week playing at home. The Eagles are 0-2 at home this year and are 0-2 when the starting QB hasn't finished the game.

I think with last weeks performance on the road in San Fran and another week to prepare as the starter - Kolb has more confidence to go down the field. I think DJax has a nice game here.

Look for Kolb to go down Feild more and not just dump to McCoy play after play.

 

[Riflemen]

I'm interested in seeing how Kolb responds to Vick's presence on the sideline. This is possibly his last chance to make an impression on Andy Reid before he passes the keys to Vick. Does Kolb choke or play inspired? Does he get the vertical passing game going? This game will play an important part in his future with the team IMO.

 

[eaglezzz]

I'm interested in seeing how Kolb responds to Vick's presence on the sideline. This is possibly his last chance to make an impression on Andy Reid before he passes the keys to Vick. Does Kolb choke or play inspired? Does he get the vertical passing game going? This game will play an important part in his future with the team IMO.

Reid loves Kolb. Kolb does not have to make any kind of an impression. But I do agree with Vick on the side line I think Kolb will feel a little extra pressure to get those big plays down field. From what I saw from Sunday Nights game Kolb looked more confident and he managed one heck of a game against a desperate 49ers team. Gutsy performance and that is the same I am hoping for this week.Also Philly's Defense needs to close out games a little better. Big Special teams plays are killing us as well.

 

[Riflemen]

I thought Reid loved Kolb as well until he ripped the rug out from under him and flip flopped on Vick as the starter. If Vick returns to his dominant play and stays healthy I believe the Eagles will be forced to resign him and move Kolb. That's why Kolb's game this week is huge for his future.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Imo if he has another great game it delays Vick's return a few more weeks.

 

[Saint]

Imo if he has another great game it delays Vick's return a few more weeks.

I would agree... as long as the Eagles win.The scary thing about this game is that ATL has a better D than SF. The question is how Kolb is going to react in the pocket with his O-line collapsing around him on every play. He needs to move a bit in the pocket and make quicker decisions. This game is the test for him.

 

[gethugefast1]

Imo if he has another great game it delays Vick's return a few more weeks.

I would agree... as long as the Eagles win.The scary thing about this game is that ATL has a better D than SF. The question is how Kolb is going to react in the pocket with his O-line collapsing around him on every play. He needs to move a bit in the pocket and make quicker decisions. This game is the test for him.

Atlanta is #8 against the run, #9 in sacks & #1 in interceptions...Kolb must be at his very best or Philly could be looking at a loss.

 

[G-King]

I thought Reid loved Kolb as well until he ripped the rug out from under him and flip flopped on Vick as the starter. If Vick returns to his dominant play and stays healthy I believe the Eagles will be forced to resign him and move Kolb. That's why Kolb's game this week is huge for his future.

Andy did not "rip the rug out from under Kolb". Because he loves him, he did the best thing he could do for him- prolong his career from Journeyman NFL Back Up Syndrome by not setting him up to fail on a team that is not ready to have a pocket passer. Vick is the best QB for a bad team (which they are right now); he is not the best QB for a well blocking, fundamentally strong, good team. I believe as the Oline gets it's stuff together and the defense tightens up (like figuring out how to cover a TE) Kolb can lead this team. If Kolb is going to be moved next year, it won't be because they are hitching the wagon to Vick for the long haul. He is just a temporary fix for a lot of other problems that need to be repaired. And I agree that FOR NOW Vick is the right scrambling, backyard-go-long, improvising QB to start in the immediate future.

 

[chinawildman]

Was not impressed with Kolb last week, and I started him in 2 leagues. Honestly can you name one QB that has NOT had a good game against SF's D? They've allowed multiple TD games to the likes of Hasselbeck and Cassel, and somehow Kolb throwing one TD means he had a great week? He had one impressive play on the TD pass, but aside from that everything was pretty much hum drum... Vick has thrown more impressive passes in that GB game than Kolb has all year.

 

[eaglezzz]

Was not impressed with Kolb last week, and I started him in 2 leagues. Honestly can you name one QB that has NOT had a good game against SF's D? They've allowed multiple TD games to the likes of Hasselbeck and Cassel, and somehow Kolb throwing one TD means he had a great week? He had one impressive play on the TD pass, but aside from that everything was pretty much hum drum... Vick has thrown more impressive passes in that GB game than Kolb has all year.

The guy moved the offense well and took some chances down field against the 49ers. 21 for 31 for 253 and 1 TD. Not awful stats and if you watched the game you could see the confidence growing and potential for a breakout type performance. I think he finds the endzone at least twice this week with one to DeSean and one to McCoy or Celek. Eagles are the top team for TD's in the Redzone as well

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Was not impressed with Kolb last week, and I started him in 2 leagues. Honestly can you name one QB that has NOT had a good game against SF's D? They've allowed multiple TD games to the likes of Hasselbeck and Cassel, and somehow Kolb throwing one TD means he had a great week? He had one impressive play on the TD pass, but aside from that everything was pretty much hum drum... Vick has thrown more impressive passes in that GB game than Kolb has all year.

I understand not being impressed by what Kolb did to SF...but Vick looked fantastic against Detroit and Jacksonville. Let's not pretend either one has gone against the Jets and come out looking like an ace.

 

[chinawildman]

Was not impressed with Kolb last week, and I started him in 2 leagues. Honestly can you name one QB that has NOT had a good game against SF's D? They've allowed multiple TD games to the likes of Hasselbeck and Cassel, and somehow Kolb throwing one TD means he had a great week? He had one impressive play on the TD pass, but aside from that everything was pretty much hum drum... Vick has thrown more impressive passes in that GB game than Kolb has all year.

The guy moved the offense well and took some chances down field against the 49ers. 21 for 31 for 253 and 1 TD. Not awful stats and if you watched the game you could see the confidence growing and potential for a breakout type performance. I think he finds the endzone at least twice this week with one to DeSean and one to McCoy or Celek. Eagles are the top team for TD's in the Redzone as well

As a niners fan I watched the entirety of the game and remember telling myself that he actually looked good in the first quarter, but from then on it was the same "captain checkdown" as Sterling Sharpe would say. Being efficient in the redzone also doesn't not equate to being a good qb... I read something like Alex Smith is no.2 in the league in terms of red zone qb rating or something like that and niners are very high up there as well overall when it comes to red zone efficiency.

 

[chinawildman]

Was not impressed with Kolb last week, and I started him in 2 leagues. Honestly can you name one QB that has NOT had a good game against SF's D? They've allowed multiple TD games to the likes of Hasselbeck and Cassel, and somehow Kolb throwing one TD means he had a great week? He had one impressive play on the TD pass, but aside from that everything was pretty much hum drum... Vick has thrown more impressive passes in that GB game than Kolb has all year.

I understand not being impressed by what Kolb did to SF...but Vick looked fantastic against Detroit and Jacksonville. Let's not pretend either one has gone against the Jets and come out looking like an ace.

I think Vick looked damn good against GB as well, and I don't mean just running the ball. I don't think it's necessarily that Kolb is a bad QB. It's just that 30 yr old Vick > Kolb > 26 yr old Vick as a passer. Add in the scrambling ability and it's really a no brainer as to who should be starting QB for the eagles. Before the game, I'm pretty sure most niners fans thought they were catching a break getting to play Kolb instead of Vick.

 

[dirtywaters20]

Was not impressed with Kolb last week, and I started him in 2 leagues. Honestly can you name one QB that has NOT had a good game against SF's D? They've allowed multiple TD games to the likes of Hasselbeck and Cassel, and somehow Kolb throwing one TD means he had a great week? He had one impressive play on the TD pass, but aside from that everything was pretty much hum drum... Vick has thrown more impressive passes in that GB game than Kolb has all year.

His stat line would have looked a whole lot better if Celek hadn't dropped some well placed throws. As to the Captain Checkdown nonsense; I think anyone who watched the game can agree that getting rid of the ball quickly is a good idea if King Dunlap is the one protecting your blind side. I thought Kolb played a real solid game and surprised me with his mobility. It was definitely a nice building block for a young Qb.

 

[G-King]

Was not impressed with Kolb last week, and I started him in 2 leagues. Honestly can you name one QB that has NOT had a good game against SF's D? They've allowed multiple TD games to the likes of Hasselbeck and Cassel, and somehow Kolb throwing one TD means he had a great week? He had one impressive play on the TD pass, but aside from that everything was pretty much hum drum... Vick has thrown more impressive passes in that GB game than Kolb has all year.

His stat line would have looked a whole lot better if Celek hadn't dropped some well placed throws. As to the Captain Checkdown nonsense; I think anyone who watched the game can agree that getting rid of the ball quickly is a good idea if King Dunlap is the one protecting your blind side. I thought Kolb played a real solid game and surprised me with his mobility. It was definitely a nice building block for a young Qb.

How does eveyone feel about Kolb if Celek catches the two big drops and it adds 50 yards/ and another TD to his stats? When the ball hits the receiver in both hands, how is that the QB's fault?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

x3. Kolb got screwed by Celek on a couple throws. 40+ yards and the last one he dropped would have been damned close to a touchdown. Suddenly if those breaks fall his way we're looking at a fantastic game.

I wouldn't play Kolb this week if you have better options (I'm benching him for Brady and Favre). But that's because Atlanta has looked pretty good on defense, and not because Kolb has struggled.

 

[menobrown]

Imo if he has another great game it delays Vick's return a few more weeks.

I would agree... as long as the Eagles win.The scary thing about this game is that ATL has a better D than SF. The question is how Kolb is going to react in the pocket with his O-line collapsing around him on every play. He needs to move a bit in the pocket and make quicker decisions. This game is the test for him.

Atlanta is #8 against the run, #9 in sacks & #1 in interceptions...Kolb must be at his very best or Philly could be looking at a loss.

Deceiving stats really which is why I'm think Kolb is going to have a good day.Look at the QB's the Falcons have faced:Week 1- Dennis DixonWeek 2- Derek AndersonWeek 3- Drew BreesWeek 4- Alex SmithWeek 5- Seneca WallaceSo Atlanta has faced two backups, one guy who lost his job, another guy whi is hanging on by a thread for his job and Brees. Brees threw for 365 on them.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Interesting. Thanks menobrown for showing why the stats might be flawed. I may roll this guy out there afterall...

 

[Bigboy10182000]

x3. Kolb got screwed by Celek on a couple throws. 40+ yards and the last one he dropped would have been damned close to a touchdown. Suddenly if those breaks fall his way we're looking at a fantastic game.I wouldn't play Kolb this week if you have better options (I'm benching him for Brady and Favre). But that's because Atlanta has looked pretty good on defense, and not because Kolb has struggled.

The one Celek drop alone was almost a 40 yard TD. His game very easily could have been 300-3 against SF and he didn't have nearly as many check downs.He actually did pretty well in the SF game all things considered. The key with him against Atlanta is the play of the OL. The one that wasn't looking so great BEFORE losing its starting center and LT. Stat wise I think he'll put up similar numbers to what he put up in SF.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I thought he also had a touchdown to DeSean. They just missed a connection and I think Jackson would have had a very good chance on running that one in.

 

[chinawildman]

Wow is this like a Kolb owners lovefest in here? Why don't we count in all the yards he could've had on holding penalties too while we're at it? Why are you guys talking about the coulda wouldas against a SF defense that allowed 250 and 3TDs to Cassel and not his putrid 5.7 YPA against the skins the week before? Kolb is an average fantasy qb and as of right now a very average NFL qb as well.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Wow is this like a Kolb owners lovefest in here? Why don't we count in all the yards he could've had on holding penalties too while we're at it? Why are you guys talking about the coulda wouldas against a SF defense that allowed 250 and 3TDs to Cassel and not his putrid 5.7 YPA against the skins the week before? Kolb is an average fantasy qb and as of right now a very average NFL qb as well.

The putrid YPA when coming in off the bench or the game where he actually practiced and played well as the starter? Tough choice. The woulda coulda put his game a bit more in perspective, no?

 

[menobrown]

Wow is this like a Kolb owners lovefest in here? Why don't we count in all the yards he could've had on holding penalties too while we're at it? Why are you guys talking about the coulda wouldas against a SF defense that allowed 250 and 3TDs to Cassel and not his putrid 5.7 YPA against the skins the week before? Kolb is an average fantasy qb and as of right now a very average NFL qb as well.

I don't know or care about woulda coulda shoulda but I know he's thrown for 971 yards in the 3 games he has started and played an entire game.

 

[Johnny Ice]

I wonder if all these ifs, couldas, shouldas, and maybes would be made for Vick's statline against anyone. Umm.....

 

[JahVideo_Kilt_Radio_Star]

Wow is this like a Kolb owners lovefest in here? Why don't we count in all the yards he could've had on holding penalties too while we're at it? Why are you guys talking about the coulda wouldas against a SF defense that allowed 250 and 3TDs to Cassel and not his putrid 5.7 YPA against the skins the week before? Kolb is an average fantasy qb and as of right now a very average NFL qb as well.

You seem to really be going out of your way to bash Kolb. You make a comment about Kolb not looking good vs. SF last week. Everyone that watched with their eyes open disagrees with you & you get defensive about it. Sum it up pretty good here?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I wonder if all these ifs, couldas, shouldas, and maybes would be made for Vick's statline against anyone. Umm.....

You mean the guy this thread isn't about? Vick is irrelevant and if his receivers (or any qb's) are dropping passes then the same could be said for them.

 

[G-King]

I wonder if all these ifs, couldas, shouldas, and maybes would be made for Vick's statline against anyone. Umm.....

Sure we can do that.... What would Vicks stat line have been if it wasn't garbage time in GB? What would it be if not playing the Jacksonville and Detroit High School defenses?How's that?

 

[menobrown]

I wonder if all these ifs, couldas, shouldas, and maybes would be made for Vick's statline against anyone. Umm.....

Vick is a stud fantasy QB in this offense. He's top 5 and a legit threat to be the #1 fantasy QB in the second half of the season. But this thread is not about Vick, it's about Kolb's prospects for this weekend.

 

[Johnny Ice]

I wonder if all these ifs, couldas, shouldas, and maybes would be made for Vick's statline against anyone. Umm.....

Vick is a stud fantasy QB in this offense. He's top 5 and a legit threat to be the #1 fantasy QB in the second half of the season. But this thread is not about Vick, it's about Kolb's prospects for this weekend.

This thread is not about Vick? Really? Point being call a spade a spade guy. The stats are what they are, we can make excuses to inflate stats for any player in the league.

 

[Johnny Ice]

I wonder if all these ifs, couldas, shouldas, and maybes would be made for Vick's statline against anyone. Umm.....

Sure we can do that.... What would Vicks stat line have been if it wasn't garbage time in GB? What would it be if not playing the Jacksonville and Detroit High School defenses?How's that?

 

[menobrown]

I wonder if all these ifs, couldas, shouldas, and maybes would be made for Vick's statline against anyone. Umm.....

Vick is a stud fantasy QB in this offense. He's top 5 and a legit threat to be the #1 fantasy QB in the second half of the season. But this thread is not about Vick, it's about Kolb's prospects for this weekend.

This thread is not about Vick? Really? Point being call a spade a spade guy. The stats are what they are, we can make excuses to inflate stats for any player in the league.

No this thread is not about Vick and no I don't get your point about calling a spade a spade. Like I said earlier Kolb has thrown for 971 yards in his full 3 games as the starter. I fail to see a need to inflate anything. This is a very QB friendly fantasy offense. Pretty much no matter who they put under center they can probably produce good fantasy points. Mcnabb did and so have both Kolb and Vick in games they managed to not get knocked out of early.

 

[chinawildman]

Wow is this like a Kolb owners lovefest in here? Why don't we count in all the yards he could've had on holding penalties too while we're at it? Why are you guys talking about the coulda wouldas against a SF defense that allowed 250 and 3TDs to Cassel and not his putrid 5.7 YPA against the skins the week before? Kolb is an average fantasy qb and as of right now a very average NFL qb as well.

You seem to really be going out of your way to bash Kolb. You make a comment about Kolb not looking good vs. SF last week. Everyone that watched with their eyes open disagrees with you & you get defensive about it. Sum it up pretty good here?

Yea because I really have it out for Kevin Kolb... Like I said, I have Kolb in both leagues I'm in and started him in both leagues last week. Not impressed is what I said, and I think he's average. Maybe he'll amount to something eventually, but right now he's pretty meh. Please point out where I said he "didn't look good"... I said I wasn't impressed. The OP was asking what people thought of his performance and I answered and ppl disagreed with me. It's an open forum for debate, big shocker. But you know what, maybe if I accuse them of being blind and defensive I might get somewhere...

 

[Johnny Ice]

I wonder if all these ifs, couldas, shouldas, and maybes would be made for Vick's statline against anyone. Umm.....

Vick is a stud fantasy QB in this offense. He's top 5 and a legit threat to be the #1 fantasy QB in the second half of the season. But this thread is not about Vick, it's about Kolb's prospects for this weekend.

This thread is not about Vick? Really? Point being call a spade a spade guy. The stats are what they are, we can make excuses to inflate stats for any player in the league.

No this thread is not about Vick and no I don't get your point about calling a spade a spade. Like I said earlier Kolb has thrown for 971 yards in his full 3 games as the starter. I fail to see a need to inflate anything. This is a very QB friendly fantasy offense. Pretty much no matter who they put under center they can probably produce good fantasy points. Mcnabb did and so have both Kolb and Vick in games they managed to not get knocked out of early.

Inflation

His game very easily could have been 300-3 against SF and he didn't have nearly as many check downs.

This is what I'm talking about. Kolb actually threw for 253 and 1. It is what it is, no matter what excuse is made. As another poster said, Cassel actually did throw for 3 TDs vs. San Fran and he STINKS!!! So why the unnecessary hype. Kolb played an average game vs. a average defense. That's it, no need to sugercoat. On to Atlanta.

 

[chinawildman]

Wow is this like a Kolb owners lovefest in here? Why don't we count in all the yards he could've had on holding penalties too while we're at it? Why are you guys talking about the coulda wouldas against a SF defense that allowed 250 and 3TDs to Cassel and not his putrid 5.7 YPA against the skins the week before? Kolb is an average fantasy qb and as of right now a very average NFL qb as well.

The putrid YPA when coming in off the bench or the game where he actually practiced and played well as the starter? Tough choice. The woulda coulda put his game a bit more in perspective, no?

Interesting that you said that considering most Kolb supporters cited the fact that the Packers hadn't "prepared" for Vick as the reason for his success against GB. Yes, much needed perspective indeed.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

This is what I'm talking about. Kolb actually threw for 253 and 1. It is what it is, no matter what excuse is made. As another poster said, Cassel actually did throw for 3 TDs vs. San Fran and he STINKS!!! So why the unnecessary hype. Kolb played an average game vs. a average defense. That's it, no need to sugercoat. On to Atlanta.

Why is it Kolb's fault that Celek dropped two long passes? If anything, the best thing that Vick does that Kolb doesn't is not trust Celek enough to throw him the ball.Really though, this couldn't possibly have been timed more perfectly for Vick. People haven't caught on yet, but Atlanta's defense is really good this year. Vick went out there and beat up on two awful defenses in Jacksonville and Detroit, and now he'll be coming back to two more defenses in the bottom 10 in the league in Tennessee and Indy a week after Kolb had to play a top D.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

It's not inflation. It's perspective and pretty easy to understand.

A guy throws for 250 and you see a WR drop a 50 yard wide open TD. When evaluating that qb I in no way hold that against him although he was 0-1 on the pass.

Honestly, the fact that this even needs explaining is troubling.

If he's average now that's fine. If he's the suck later that's fine too. What remains is that his game against SF could have and should have looked better then the average game some are making it to be. It's not a slight to Vick or inflation and it rather simple to understand. He ended up with X amount of points but actually played better if you watched the game.

 

[chinawildman]

BTW as a niners fan, please stop using Kolb's decent game against the niners as some kind of springboard of hope... The niners pass D (21st) yields a whole whopping 7 less yds/game than the "horrendous" detroit pass D (24th) that everyone here alludes to. Add to that that the niners give up more tds through the air (9) to detroit's (8) and that detroit's D has more INTs (7 to 4) and sacks (14 to 10).

Much like the entire 49er team, our defense is not what it was made out to be.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Wow is this like a Kolb owners lovefest in here? Why don't we count in all the yards he could've had on holding penalties too while we're at it? Why are you guys talking about the coulda wouldas against a SF defense that allowed 250 and 3TDs to Cassel and not his putrid 5.7 YPA against the skins the week before? Kolb is an average fantasy qb and as of right now a very average NFL qb as well.

The putrid YPA when coming in off the bench or the game where he actually practiced and played well as the starter? Tough choice. The woulda coulda put his game a bit more in perspective, no?

Interesting that you said that considering most Kolb supporters cited the fact that the Packers hadn't "prepared" for Vick as the reason for his success against GB. Yes, much needed perspective indeed.

What other posters say is their business. The problem with people is that they feel they have to be pro Kolb and anti Vick or vice versa. That's not the case with me. If Vick had similar bad luck in the SF I would be saying the same. You're obviously on one side of the fence and a guy who seems hell bent on jamming an opinion down someone's throat.

 

[Johnny Ice]

This is what I'm talking about. Kolb actually threw for 253 and 1. It is what it is, no matter what excuse is made. As another poster said, Cassel actually did throw for 3 TDs vs. San Fran and he STINKS!!! So why the unnecessary hype. Kolb played an average game vs. a average defense. That's it, no need to sugercoat. On to Atlanta.

Why is it Kolb's fault that Celek dropped two long passes? If anything, the best thing that Vick does that Kolb doesn't is not trust Celek enough to throw him the ball.Really though, this couldn't possibly have been timed more perfectly for Vick. People haven't caught on yet, but Atlanta's defense is really good this year. Vick went out there and beat up on two awful defenses in Jacksonville and Detroit, and now he'll be coming back to two more defenses in the bottom 10 in the league in Tennessee and Indy a week after Kolb had to play a top D.

Let's be real here, the only true stout defenses are Pitt, Balt, and NYJ. Maybe throw in Chicago. Everyone else can be had just like Jax and Det.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

BTW as a niners fan, please stop using Kolb's decent game against the niners as some kind of springboard of hope... The niners pass D (21st) yields a whole whopping 7 less yds/game than the "horrendous" detroit pass D (24th) that everyone here alludes to. Much like the entire 49er team, our defense is not what it was made out to be.

I liked it and thought he looked good. Now we'll see how everything else plays out. Is that Ok?

 

[chinawildman]

Wow is this like a Kolb owners lovefest in here? Why don't we count in all the yards he could've had on holding penalties too while we're at it? Why are you guys talking about the coulda wouldas against a SF defense that allowed 250 and 3TDs to Cassel and not his putrid 5.7 YPA against the skins the week before? Kolb is an average fantasy qb and as of right now a very average NFL qb as well.

The putrid YPA when coming in off the bench or the game where he actually practiced and played well as the starter? Tough choice. The woulda coulda put his game a bit more in perspective, no?

Interesting that you said that considering most Kolb supporters cited the fact that the Packers hadn't "prepared" for Vick as the reason for his success against GB. Yes, much needed perspective indeed.

What other posters say is their business. The problem with people is that they feel they have to be pro Kolb and anti Vick or vice versa. That's not the case with me. If Vick had similar bad luck in the SF I would be saying the same. You're obviously on one side of the fence and a guy who seems hell bent on jamming an opinion down someone's throat.

Sorry if I'm coming off like that.. just don't think Kolb's all that great. He might amount to something later down the line, but right now Vick's the better QB. And you're right, it's not really about being anti-one guy or the other. I have both guys, and watching from a purely unbiased perspective (not an Eagles fan) Vick's the better passer, I don't really see how you can just leave him out of the conversation. Having said that, I would take Kevin Kolb over Alex Smith any day of the week.

 

[SteelerMurf]

And if maybe Kolb realized what a weapon he had in Djax and actually tried to get him the ball............if

 

[dirtywaters20]

Was not impressed with Kolb last week, and I started him in 2 leagues. Honestly can you name one QB that has NOT had a good game against SF's D? They've allowed multiple TD games to the likes of Hasselbeck and Cassel, and somehow Kolb throwing one TD means he had a great week? He had one impressive play on the TD pass, but aside from that everything was pretty much hum drum... Vick has thrown more impressive passes in that GB game than Kolb has all year.

Matt Ryan...at home with a 1pm start time.

 

[dirtywaters20]

I wonder if all these ifs, couldas, shouldas, and maybes would be made for Vick's statline against anyone. Umm.....

Vick is a stud fantasy QB in this offense. He's top 5 and a legit threat to be the #1 fantasy QB in the second half of the season. But this thread is not about Vick, it's about Kolb's prospects for this weekend.

This thread is not about Vick? Really? Point being call a spade a spade guy. The stats are what they are, we can make excuses to inflate stats for any player in the league.

Hey if you want to include Vick's career numbers as a passer, I'm comfortable with that. Stats are what they are afterall. No need for further examination.

 

[matuski]

It's not inflation. It's perspective and pretty easy to understand.

A guy throws for 250 and you see a WR drop a 50 yard wide open TD.

Just to help you out.His stats were his stats, when you try to give credit for a completion that didn't happen - you are by definition inflating his stats. 250 = real. 300 = inflated..

HTH

 

[Bigboy10182000]

It's not inflation. It's perspective and pretty easy to understand.

A guy throws for 250 and you see a WR drop a 50 yard wide open TD.

Just to help you out.His stats were his stats, when you try to give credit for a completion that didn't happen - you are by definition inflating his stats. 250 = real. 300 = inflated..

HTH

If you would have quoted the rest of my post I think you see that I was in no way inflating his stats. His stats are his stats and his points are his points, we get it. Now if you want to call his game average by strictly looking at stats and/ or pretending to have watched that's fine too. The fact remains that he played above what the numbers would indicate. If you want to simplify it to inflation then so be it.

 

[JoeTall]

Kolb is going to have a rough day of it. Especially with a LT as a turnstile.

LT King Dunlap vs DE John Abraham

 

[CaptainHook]

vick is definitely the better qb as of Today. but kolb being "average" as you people are saying in his first few games is actually a good sign for his longterm prospects and not the negative you haters are portraying it as.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

BTW as a niners fan, please stop using Kolb's decent game against the niners as some kind of springboard of hope... The niners pass D (21st) yields a whole whopping 7 less yds/game than the "horrendous" detroit pass D (24th) that everyone here alludes to. Much like the entire 49er team, our defense is not what it was made out to be.

I liked it and thought he looked good. Now we'll see how everything else plays out. Is that Ok?

And he looked good here as well in his 5th career start

 

[G-King]

This is what I'm talking about. Kolb actually threw for 253 and 1. It is what it is, no matter what excuse is made. As another poster said, Cassel actually did throw for 3 TDs vs. San Fran and he STINKS!!! So why the unnecessary hype. Kolb played an average game vs. a average defense. That's it, no need to sugercoat. On to Atlanta.

Sooo...... how did he do in Atlanta?