sad pandas
Footballguy
What do you think he will do vs the Raiders this week in his first start?
I am guessing he cracks 100 yds w/ 2 scores (one will be a long one)
I am guessing he cracks 100 yds w/ 2 scores (one will be a long one)
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Kolby v Raiders (1 Viewer)
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Banger
Footballguy
LOL. I hope you're kidding.
oneohh
Footballguy
He'll only do that if I don't start him.
sentr
Footballguy
Wow. I hope you are right but I would say maybe 100 total yards with a 50/50 shot at a short TD.
Wow....wishful thinking there.The Chiefs have a bad offensive line, and Kolby was number 4 (essentially) behind Michael Bennet and a now retired Priest Holmes. We are not talking about LT here.
Steelnation
Footballguy
He's not Cheddar..........yet
LJ went for 133 total and a score against Oakland. Apparently it is logical to assume that Kolby will do better than that? Seems a bit misguided to me but you are right one guess is as good as another.
(unwelcomed)GUEST
Footballguy
I thought about slapping some sarcastic response up when I saw the first post like: Looks like the pandaman either stashed this guy on his bench or just nabbed him off waivers like I did and this week, I am guessing he cracks sad pandas line-up in week 12. It really added nothing so I didn't bother until I saw MD Skinners blurb. I think the Chiefs have more confidence in Kolby that MD Skinner thinks. I believe Bennet was traded once coaches saw Priest's conditioning getting game-ready. If you followed KC through training camp or watched "Hard Knocks", you'd know Priest wasn't in game shape as the season started. So while Kolby was never viewed as a starter, at worst he was #3 prior to Priest's return and after Bennet was traded, #2. Priest was activated and earned the back-up role this year with his experience/knowledge of the offense/pass blocking ability, not by physically outperforming Kolby on the field. Once Priest was activated, Kolby slid back to #3. LJ out, Kolby #2. So caterogizing him as the #4 is misleading. Here's to hoping Kolby has a monster week against what has been a weak run D
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I actually live in KC and feel like I have a decent grasp on the Smith situation, and I actually own the guy in two leagues.You may be right...but I believe the Chiefs would be very happy if LJ could make a more speedy recovery at this point.I thought about slapping some sarcastic response up when I saw the first post like: Looks like the pandaman either stashed this guy on his bench or just nabbed him off waivers like I did and this week, I am guessing he cracks your line-up. It really added nothing so I didn't bother, but I think the Chiefs have more confidence in Kolby that MD Skinner thinks. I believe Bennet was traded once Priest's conditioning got game-ready. If you followed KC through training camp or watched "Hard Knocks", you'd know Priest wasn't in game shape as the season started. So while Kolby was never viewed as a starter, at worst he was #3 and for a few games #2. Priest earned the back-up role this year with his experience/knowledge of the offense/pass blocking ability, not by physically outperforming Kolby on the field. Here's to hoping Kolby has a monster week against what has been a weak run D
H.K.
Footballguy
I would assume those are first half numbers, right? I've got him down for 175 rushing, 60 receiving and 4 TD's. He's FF gold this week.
Now that I would agree with.
(unwelcomed)GUEST
Footballguy
For a this week fill-in I'd say Smith is the safer selection. Who in the he11 knows what's going on in Denver's backfield. Henry's injury status AND suspension status? Young healthy and starting if Henry is out? Hall off limited work taking over for Young IF Henry is out, or RBBC until things are clarified. Did I mention Denver's two capable fullbacks?
Banger
Footballguy
Yes, since there's a good chance that Smith will be the starter and Hall may end up being 3rd string depending on Henry's appeal/injury. That being said I think people should be prepared for a lot of 19-50 type days. LJ had a tough time getting yardage/TD's every week and he's 10X the back that Smith is.
Low and behold....logic.LJ has not had a single day this year by my scoring system that would be even as good as 100 and 2. One was really close, but did not quite make it.
Kolby may do it. But I doubt it.
Crusaderfan
Footballguy
I added Smith in my PPR league and would be happy with 15-65 and 5 catches for 30 yards. He puts that up and a TD is possible. I'll take that for a RB fill-in.
Steel Town
Footballguy
Who do the Chiefs have on the practice squad at rb? I am guessing they won't be comfortable with Kolby Smith as the only rb on the roster.....they might be re-thinking that Bennett trade right about now.
Kevin Ashcraft
Footballguy
KC Practice Squad only has one back on it and he is a pretty bad fullback.
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Status: Practice Squad# Name Pos Ht Wt Born Exp College Hometown Acquired81 Allan, Michael TE 6-6 254 09/08/83 R Whitworth Bellevue, WA D7-0779 Capizzi, Jason T 6-8 312 06/19/83 R Indiana University (Pa.) Gibsonia, PA FA-0773 Harriot, Claude DE 6-4 252 04/08/81 1 Pittsburgh Belle Glade, FL FA-0730 Harris, Gilbert FB 6-2 235 06/18/84 R Arizona San Antonio, TX CFA-0794 Jackson, T.J. DT 6-0 304 12/12/83 2 Auburn Opelika, AL FA-0772 Smith, Khreem DE 6-3 257 07/07/79 1 Oklahoma State Miami, FL FA-0766 Smith, Rob G 6-3 311 03/08/84 1 Tennessee Ft. Thomas, KY FA-0761 Stallings, Tre T 6-3 315 01/08/83 2 Mississippi Magnolia, MS D6a-06Steel Town
Footballguy
So, the Chiefs have Kolby and that is it? If this kid gets dinged, they will roll with an empty backfield?
If Jordan does get released, the Chiefs would have to make a push for him.
If Jordan does get released, the Chiefs would have to make a push for him.
Kevin Ashcraft
Footballguy
Another name to keep in mind.....Kris Wilson is a FB/TE who is a poor man's Jim Kleinsasser, actually about three poor men removed from JK lol. but Wilson could see some carries.
MNFlyingBoat
Footballguy
Kolby and Priest had 109 total yards against Indianapolis last week. Smith had 51 of those yards.
Why would you think this week Kolby would have less than this 109 against Oakland if he is the only back?
Based on this I picked him up and will likely start him instead of Graham vs tougher Wash run defense or uncertain RB in Denver.
Why would you think this week Kolby would have less than this 109 against Oakland if he is the only back?
Based on this I picked him up and will likely start him instead of Graham vs tougher Wash run defense or uncertain RB in Denver.
sad pandas
Footballguy
Based on what Chester the Molester did to me last week I'd start Priest in a Wheelchair vs the Raiders. I don't seriously think he will hit those numbers, but I think it is likely he will break a 40-50 yd touchdown against Oakland which may put him at around 100 yds
I did pick him up on waivers but I'm not starting him over Portis or Ja Lew at rb2
I did pick him up on waivers but I'm not starting him over Portis or Ja Lew at rb2
Banger
Footballguy
I think it's flawed logic to think that yardage is like a pie with static yardage figures and that you can take one guy out and plug another guy in and expect similar numbers. Kolby was at the bottom of the depth chart for a reason. No one here knows how many plays he knows, whether he can block, etc. He's worth a pick-up but this 100+ yards stuff is a reach IMO. LJ only surpassed 100 total yards 3 times this year and like I said he's 10X the back that Smith is.
Do we really know this as fact?
Tommy Collins
Footballguy
Brady was a 6th round pick and a backup. LJ was a backup. That doesn't necessarily mean anything. Guys get buried all the time, it happens. He could be good, he could be crap. I would curb my expectations for this kid. Nobody knows anything about him. Just because he had 51 of those yards last week doesn't mean much. It would be different if he was splitting time all game but he wasn't.
Banger
Footballguy
LOL. Well considering LJ is a top 5 talent in the NFL and Kolby was behind him, Bennett and Priest (who hadn't played in two years, was out of shape and had serious medical issues) I think it's safe to say. 10X may be exagerating a bit, maybe he's 9.3X or 9.4X better....
cmv5
Footballguy
I don't understand what's not to like about Kolby Smith's match-up. If you have a better option then you are probably starting that running back. If you have issues and by Week 12 most people do, then Kolby Smith has a pretty favorable match-up staring him in the face. Oakland has given up at least one touchdown on the ground every week they have played this season, so I like Kolby Smith's chances.
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Banger
Footballguy
That's the way I would play it. The matchup is a good one so he'll probably do as good as he's going to do this week but the Chiefs are probably the worst offensive team in the league at this point.
EdwardCat
Footballguy
Not according to FBG... The prelim cheatsheets have him ranked pretty damn high.
Finatic
Footballguy
oneohh
Footballguy
So my question is who is he worth starting ahead of? The Grahams and Bensons of the world?
EdwardCat
Footballguy
That's only assuming that you look poorly on Graham. Graham is a solid play week in and week out.
MNFlyingBoat
Footballguy
Um, did you miss the part that said Kolby had 51 yards himself last week? So its flawed logic to say a guy who split carriers and had 51 yds last week could get 100+ by himself against a much worse def the next week? By the way, for reference. TB backs had a total of 10 yds rush and 34 receiving vs Indianapolis and a couple of weeks later Graham tore it up at Det with 191 yds. KC did better than TB vs Ind and Oakland is worse than Det in rush def.Who knows how it is going to go, but there is a good chance Kolby will have a very good game vs. Oakland. It is far from a stretch of the imagination, and I would say it is even the more likely event.
oneohh
Footballguy
I mean as far as the matchup is concerned. Obviously you can't go with what Smith has done in the past because he hasn't done anything. Graham has but has a less favorable matchup.
Banger
Footballguy
I'd definitely go Taylor without a thought. Taylor will get 25+ carries and has a MUCH better line and has actually proven that he can play.
Banger
Footballguy
and 30% of those 51 yards came with :02 left in the game with the Colts in prevent defense. Hey, I could be dead wrong and I often play matchups myself but to sit guys that have actually done something over Smith is something I wouldn't do. If KC wasn't so horrible I'd consider it but their QB is awful and their line is worse. I just have no confidence whatsoever in that team regardless of who they are playing.
Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
I will probably start Kolby over K. Jones this week, simply because Green Bay's def is tough and Jones hasn't been getting the rock lately (plus his foot has less time to heal this week.)
My other option is Fargas, so I'm not stacked at RB2...but just thought I'd throw it out there for those that care.
My other option is Fargas, so I'm not stacked at RB2...but just thought I'd throw it out there for those that care.
Lomez
Footballguy
SigEp316
Footballguy
agreed...Priest Holmes was a back-up through college and in the pros until he got his break.Everyone is looking for lightening in a bottle, he may not hit 100yds and he may not score...but if I had to pick a DEF to start him against, it'd be the Raiders.
Lomez
Footballguy
Are you implying Kolby is on the Slimfast?
Please don't start him then!!!
Joe Kidd
Footballguy
I meant to post this in Kolby vs. Raiders but posted it in other KSmith thread.
1. Oakland is 31st in the league for rushing yds given up per game and last in the league with 16 TD's given up on the ground. Their pass D is ranked 6th in the league and have only given up 8 TD's through the air ranking 3rd in that area.
2. We all know that young Rb's adjust to the pro game much faster than young Qb's. Plus, K Smith's pass blocking might be lacking.
With the above mentioned, I'm thinking Herm Edwards and the Chiefs will try to run the ball 35-40 times vs. the Raiders. Add in the fact that, the game is being played at Arrowhead and the Chiefs D keeping the offense in every game as of late, and I think there is a very good chance that they will have every opportunity to the run the ball all game long.
With all that, I've got K Smith getting 100 yds total and .75 TD's with a good chance of those #'s improving, depending on how the game shakes out. IE. KC's time of possession with the lead. ( and yes I do believe they will be leading for most of the game)
1. Oakland is 31st in the league for rushing yds given up per game and last in the league with 16 TD's given up on the ground. Their pass D is ranked 6th in the league and have only given up 8 TD's through the air ranking 3rd in that area.
2. We all know that young Rb's adjust to the pro game much faster than young Qb's. Plus, K Smith's pass blocking might be lacking.
With the above mentioned, I'm thinking Herm Edwards and the Chiefs will try to run the ball 35-40 times vs. the Raiders. Add in the fact that, the game is being played at Arrowhead and the Chiefs D keeping the offense in every game as of late, and I think there is a very good chance that they will have every opportunity to the run the ball all game long.
With all that, I've got K Smith getting 100 yds total and .75 TD's with a good chance of those #'s improving, depending on how the game shakes out. IE. KC's time of possession with the lead. ( and yes I do believe they will be leading for most of the game)
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