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Ladainian - the truth comes out - sort of (1 Viewer)

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Full San Diego Union Tribune article on how LaDainian is totally focused on winning the SB this year.

I found this part here interesting, though some of it is conjecture by the writer, as I agree with the sentiment regarding last year's playoff debacle:

...Not so funny was that he walked off the turf at Qualcomm Stadium seething two weeks after that amazing regular season. It turns out his outburst regarding Patriots coach Bill Belichick after the Chargers' playoff loss might have been more accurately directed at his own offensive coordinator.

Tomlinson said recently “it would be fair” to say he was extremely angry about getting just five carries in the fourth quarter and nine in the second half against the Patriots.

“At times, Cam (Cameron) got it in his mind what we did well,” Tomlinson said of the former Chargers offensive coordinator, now the Miami Dolphins' head coach. “(It was Antonio) Gates does this well. This is what he's going to do, no matter what. LT does this well. This is what we're going to do no matter if people (stopped it). That's what Cam believed, even if it wasn't true.

“Norv (Turner) is more, 'These guys do a lot of things well, and they can do it well if we do it enough, if we teach them enough.' . . . Not only that, at some point Norv can say, 'This is what we're doing, and this is how we're going to adjust to it (if a team is stopping it). I didn't get the sense from Cam that was the case. We just kept doing what we did.”

But Tomlinson's anger also stemmed from frustration that a season that saw him win his first league MVP award crashed and burned with such mind-numbing suddenness. The Chargers self-destructed as much as anything in that playoff game, doomed by stupid penalties and stupid decisions.

It all sort of seemed inequitable for Tomlinson's season to end in such a sudden mess.

“You play the hand you're dealt,” he said. “That's how I look at it. . . . You hope that not only you learn – I learned a lot – but you hope other people do, too. And you leave it at that.”

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I appreciate what Cam did in his time in SD, but I for one put a lot of the blame on him for the way that playoff game went down. I think the offense may be better off with Norv here at this point.
 
Indiana fans I know don't like Cameron. Now this. We all know how his moves in MIA are being percieved by their fans.

Big ?? regarding Cameron's abilities from all around.

 
Ted Ginn and his family will give Cam everything they have this year in Miami

Cam is great, lol

 
“At times, Cam (Cameron) got it in his mind what we did well,” Tomlinson said of the former Chargers offensive coordinator, now the Miami Dolphins' head coach. “(It was Antonio) Gates does this well. This is what he's going to do, no matter what. LT does this well. This is what we're going to do no matter if people (stopped it). That's what Cam believed, even if it wasn't true.

“Norv (Turner) is more, 'These guys do a lot of things well, and they can do it well if we do it enough, if we teach them enough.' . . . Not only that, at some point Norv can say, 'This is what we're doing, and this is how we're going to adjust to it (if a team is stopping it). I didn't get the sense from Cam that was the case. We just kept doing what we did.”

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Maybe the reason for the big difference between the two is that Cam was using Turners system so that's what he knew and couldn't make the necessary adjusts as opposed to Turner who actually came up with and implemented the system and actually has the confidence and knowledge to make adjustments when the time comes.I've always thought that Cam got too much credit for the offenses success. It's easy to look like a genius when half your starters on offense are in the pro-bowl and you've got two of the top players at their positions.

 
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The ESPN Magazine article about AJ Smith was also pretty revealing.
I don't think I've seen that one. Is there a link, or was it only in the mag?
Two worlds intersect at a small magnetic board. It hangs in the office of A.J. Smith, meeting his eyes whenever he looks up from his scouting reports or cell phone to reflect on, fixate on and toy with the universe he lords over. There are 53 black nameplates on the white board, one for every Charger, detailed with name and number and school and position. San Diego's general manager sees infinite possibilities in the board's composition, which he can manipulate any way he wants. He can move a third-string corner to safety. Or a tight end to tackle. Or he can remove a nameplate and pitch it into the trash, ending a Chargers career just like that.One magnet is immovable, though, the one marked "Tomlinson, 21, Texas Christian, RB." It sits in the center of the board, a bull's-eye around which magnets come and go. When LaDainian Tomlinson ponders the board, he thinks of the players represented and is comforted by them, blessed to be surrounded by so much talent. But it's scary also, for just as Smith sees potential on the wall, Tomlinson sees a world spinning around him over which he has no control and -- as long as Smith presides over it -- never will.It agonizes him, to be here again. Tomlinson is beginning this season the same way he ended the last, which is the same way he's begun and ended every season of his career: ringless. Tomlinson is 28, and after 2,050 carries and 9,176 yards, he doesn't know how many more seasons he has left. Or whether Smith's major moves will leave him starting over every year.Sitting in San Diego's Maderas Golf Club 10 days before camp starts, Tomlinson takes you back to the first meaningful exchange he had with Smith, in 2003. He was sitting on the team plane, headphones on, leaning away from the aisle and sulking after another loss in what would be a 4-12 season. Smith, in his rookie year as GM, approached. "I want you to know something," Smith said. "Trust me a little bit on this: I promise you, your career will not be in vain.""Okay, I trust you," said Tomlinson, who was sick of wasting Pro Bowl seasons on a losing and divided team; any change was inviting. But today, despite Smith's having given his star what could be the NFL's most talented roster, change has become daunting. Tomlinson has seen how Super Bowl winners step forward: by keeping the key pieces in place and braving the tough times together, the way the Colts and the Steelers did. You don't let a Pro Bowl quarterback like Drew Brees go for an untested one like 2004 first-rounder Philip Rivers. And you don't let a 200-win coach like Marty Schottenheimer go for Norv Turner, who has a career 58-82-1 record.But in San Diego, they did just that. And Tomlinson has learned that under Smith, he has no chance to argue for a different, more stable course. He first realized this after the 2005 season. He'd publicly stated that he wanted Brees back. After all, Brees had led San Diego to a 21-11 record the previous two years, and the two men were best friends, sharing a bond from the moment they'd met, at a 1997 Texas high school all-star game. But Smith wouldn't give Brees the guaranteed money he desired, not after the QB had suffered a torn labrum in the '05 season finale and failed to take the Chargers to the playoffs. Plus, Smith wanted to see what his guy Rivers could do. So Brees was left to explore free agency, and he soon signed with the Saints. Shortly after, Tomlinson's mom, Loreane, called her son. "The San Diego Chargers have lost their minds!" she yelled."My baby will never make it to a Super Bowl!""I just wouldn't have allowed this to happen," an angry Tomlinson said at the time. "I don't see it. I don't understand it."Nor did he understand this past February, when Schottenheimer was fired. But this is exactly what Smith asked of his star on the plane: trust, even when Smith's moves appear to be arbitrary or counterproductive. In many ways Smith has more than earned that trust, having drafted at least one Pro Bowler each year and seven in all -- including linebackers Shawne Merriman and Shaun Phillips and defensive end Luis Castillo. He signed Antonio Gates as an undrafted free agent. "He's tough, opinionated, and he knows his business," says Bills GM Marv Levy.But Smith is also volatile enough to be called a "bully" by one agent and "sketchy" by another. And some of Smith's victims believe that Tomlinson's Super Bowl chances are fading. Chiefs linebacker Donnie Edwards, who left San Diego this off-season following a yearlong contract battle with Smith, recently told The Kansas City Star, "We had something great going there. But egos destroyed it. Well, not egos. Ego."He didn't need to name whose.Hard-###. It's a label A.J. Smith hasn't shrunk from since earning it three years ago, when the Chargers held the first selection in the draft. Eli Manning was the consensus top pick but didn't want to play in San Diego. Archie Manning demanded that the Chargers trade the pick or select someone else. On the receiving end of that threat was a GM no one had heard of who looked like Paulie from The Sopranos and who governed like him, too. Smith stuck it to the Mannings, all right. He not only chose Eli -- forcing the prince into history's most awkward draft day photo op -- he shrewdly maneuvered to land the quarterback he'd wanted all along, Rivers, in a trade with the Giants. "Then I said, 'Good luck to the Giants, good luck to Eli, good luck to Archie,' " Smith says now, smiling.So, yes, he's a hard-###. He also has guts. He looks good now, after the Manning trade, but if no teams had offered a trade, if his bluff had been called, he would have been left with a disaster. "I believe in being aggressive," he says, sitting in his office in July. "I can't stand the conservative approach."Smith is 58, with platinum hair gelled back and eyebrows fixed so sharply they're intimidating when raised. He isn't known for smiling -- or interacting much at all, for that matter. He doesn't chitchat with players, doesn't even walk the field before kickoff, opting to sit alone in the locker room. During February's combine, when most GMs hobnob on the record by day and off the record by night, Smith is a recluse, darting between meetings with a Chargers cap concealing his face. He sounds quirky, paranoid even. But if he were any other way, Smith explains, "all my friends would say, 'You are the biggest phony we've ever laid our eyes on.' I resent GMs who are on 100 radio shows, 100 TV shows and never turn down a quote."While working as a Rhode Island junior high school teacher 30 years ago, Smith decided he wanted to work in pro football and sent letters to every team, offering to scout for free. Only the Giants responded, with a part-time job. After nine years of bouncing from the NFL to the USFL and back again, he landed in Buffalo, where he developed a color-coded drafting system, which Levy still uses. In 2001, he followed his best friend and colleague, John Butler, to San Diego when Butler got the Chargers GM job. Two years later Smith got his break, in an awful way. Days before Butler died of lymphoma, he told team president Dean Spanos that Smith should succeed him. When Spanos gave Smith the job, his new GM promised, "We're going to try to win a Super Bowl by any means."Of course, when Smith said "any means," he really meant his means. "He insults you," says one agent who has dealt with Smith often. "He tries to act tough and intimidate you. If you explain that his offer is unfair, he'll talk down to you and try to educate you, like he knows what's best for your client. But he's just hurting the chances for a deal."When Gates got into a contract dispute, in 2005, Smith gave him an ultimatum: End his holdout before Aug. 20 or sit out the opener. Gates arrived one day late and on Aug. 23 agreed to the six-year, $24 million deal Smith offered. With Week 1 days away, the GM could have let Gates off the hook. Instead, he put him on the roster exempt list. Gates watched in street clothes as San Diego lost to Dallas 28-24, the game ending on four incomplete red zone passes that the gifted tight end might have caught. Afterward, Smith said he didn't "regret anything."More to the point, a message had been sent: Smith cedes power to no one -- not coaches, not agents, not players, including the tailback destined for Canton. "The players, they're human beings," Smith says. "They have feelings. But their job is to play as hard as they can and hope that upstairs gets it done."Try telling Tomlinson to hope. He hoped Brees would be back after 2005, and that didn't happen. So last year he moved past hope, coping with Schottenheimer's shaky job status by playing on a level so high and so sustained that Smith would have no choice but to keep the team intact.Tomlinson knew Schottenheimer's job was on the line for one reason: Coach and the GM hated each other. Smith disdained Schottenheimer's theatrics, doing impressions for his friends of the coach's over-the-top pregame speeches. He wanted a coach who had a better sense of clock management and, most of all, could get to the Super Bowl, which Schottenheimer hasn't done in 21 seasons as a head coach. Schottenheimer fumed at losing Brees and took offense at Smith's manner. According to the coach, he would occasionally approach Smith and say, "Can we talk about this?" But Smith's response was always: "I don't want to talk about it."Meanwhile, Tomlinson says, he and Schottenheimer were "as close as a coach and a player can be." Tomlinson even told him, "I'm going to do everything I can for you."He thought he had. Tomlinson met with his trainer, Todd Durkin, five days a week during the off-season. LT had realized that the right side of his body was stronger than the left. Scared that defenses would pick up his tendency to cut off his sturdier leg, player and trainer set out to even the imbalance. For 90 minutes every day, Tomlinson stood one-legged and barefoot on a 21/2-inch-thick foam pad while Durkin threw him passes or tried to strip the ball from his grip or charged at Tomlinson with blocking pads for the tailback to stiff-arm away. Tomlinson didn't talk much about Brees' departure. Still, says Durkin, "it hurt him. But he was so focused, he never let up."He didn't when the season started, either, breaking 13 NFL records -- including scoring 31 touchdowns -- and winning MVP honors. At the end of the regular season, Smith stopped by Tomlinson's locker, alluded to the Chargers' league-best 14-2 record and said, "Hey, the plan -- it's working, right?""Yeah, it is," Tomlinson said.Then San Diego blew a fourth-quarter lead to the Patriots in the divisional playoffs, throwing everything into doubt. Tomlinson walked into Schottenheimer's office a day after the 24-21 loss, wondering what the future held. "I'll know in the next 24 hours," the coach said. Tomlinson publicly endorsed Schottenheimer, and when the coach lasted those 24 hours with his job intact, Tomlinson thought his play -- and voice -- had made a difference. But by February, five Chargers assistant coaches had left for other teams, and Tomlinson heard rumors that Schottenheimer and Smith were arguing over who would fill out the staff. When Schottenheimer pushed to hire his brother, Kurt, as defensive coordinator over Smith's top candidate, Ted Cottrell, Spanos intervened and sided with his GM. The pissing match was over.Upon hearing of Schottenheimer's firing, Tomlinson turned to his wife, Torsha, and said, "I can't believe it. How are we going to win a Super Bowl if we're starting from scratch again?"What happened next illuminates how LT ultimately would resolve his question. Smith didn't call him to talk about the firing, and Tomlinson didn't call Smith. "My job is to help this team win on the field," Tomlinson says. "A.J.'s job is to help us win off the field. So it ain't my job to try to do his. Do I have opinions? Yeah. But it really doesn't matter."His iPhone rings. It's Loreane, calling to see how training camp is going. Tomlinson tells his mom that he's nervous about the season. "Why are you worried?" she says. "We have a good team.""Well, you never know how these guys are going to do," Tomlinson says. "You never know."This isn't the first time this summer that Loreane has heard concern in her son's voice. When July rolled around, Tomlinson found himself needing motivation. So at a celebrity golf tournament at Lake Tahoe, he introduced himself to Michael Jordan and asked how to stay driven."Use every little slight to drive you," Jordan said.Tomlinson knows it's a cliché, a trick, but he's using it anyway. Since no one slings mud at a six-time Pro Bowler, he's elected to take on everyone else's slights, starting with Turner, and how critics keep harping on his record. "His approach is, We know we're good, so let's play like we know we're good," Tomlinson says. "That's going to change how we look at big games."He's changing his own outlook while he's at it. For the first time in his career, Tomlinson didn't set personal goals for the coming season -- no small feat for someone who culls through the box scores on Monday morning to see how his numbers fare around the NFL. "You're remembered by Super Bowls," he says, "so that's my only goal."Of course, nothing changes the fact that he's stuck -- a magnet on the wall, locked in place. If Tomlinson were to vent publicly about Smith's risky moves, it would become a national story, split the organization and rip apart his soft-spoken, team-first reputation. So as he begins the season with a new coach and old worries, he has no choice but to go back to the plane ride with Smith. He says he's "kind of grown to trust A.J., knowing he has a plan." But more than that, he's absolving himself of concern. As his mom says before she ends their call and lets him return to camp, just focus on the things you can control.At practice the next day, Tomlinson takes a handoff and skates right, crouching, ducking and dodging, sifting for cracks. The defense crashes his way, and Tomlinson vanishes under the wave. The whistle should blow any second. Even the practice's play-by-play guy announces to the lulled 4,000 looking on, "LT's stopped ... "But he's not. He's free, blazing down the sideline, past A.J. Smith, who stands unmoved, arms folded, eyes masked by sunglasses. The run marks a power shift. The field is Tomlinson's magnetic board, where he sees infinite possibilities, where he answers to no one.And his genius moves the pieces.
 
The article makes LT sound seriously unhappy
I didn't take that at all. I took it as he wants to win the super bowl and is frustrated that he hasn't won it yet.Good article post BTW....
 
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The ESPN Magazine article about AJ Smith was also pretty revealing.
I don't think I've seen that one. Is there a link, or was it only in the mag?
One magnet is immovable, though, the one marked "Tomlinson, 21, Texas Christian, RB." It sits in the center of the board, a bull's-eye around which magnets come and go.
I'm not an NFL GM or anything, but I might give some thought to making Shawne Merriman's magnet immovable as well.
 
Good read. Thanks for posting that, B-Deep.

I wish reporters could get the basic facts straight regarding the Gates situation, though.

When Gates got into a contract dispute, in 2005, Smith gave him an ultimatum: End his holdout before Aug. 20 or sit out the opener. Gates arrived one day late and on Aug. 23 agreed to the six-year, $24 million deal Smith offered. With Week 1 days away, the GM could have let Gates off the hook. Instead, he put him on the roster exempt list. Gates watched in street clothes as San Diego lost to Dallas 28-24, the game ending on four incomplete red zone passes that the gifted tight end might have caught. Afterward, Smith said he didn't "regret anything."
The bolded sentences are just flat wrong, and it's easy to check on for any reporter who wants to understand the rule. Gates was placed on the roster exempt list before he reported (which is very likely why he reported), and there was no way to take him off until after the first game. Gates's own agent didn't understand the rule, either, and publicly said that the Chargers could allow him to play if they'd wanted. Smith said that it would be "amazing" if Gates could play, but the Chargers' attorneys said that's not how it worked. The Chargers double-checked with the league just to be sure, and the league gave the answer everyone already knew: Gates's agent was wrong, and there was nothing the Chargers could do to get him on the field against the Cowboys.
 
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The ESPN Magazine article about AJ Smith was also pretty revealing.
I don't think I've seen that one. Is there a link, or was it only in the mag?
One magnet is immovable, though, the one marked "Tomlinson, 21, Texas Christian, RB." It sits in the center of the board, a bull's-eye around which magnets come and go.
I'm not an NFL GM or anything, but I might give some thought to making Shawne Merriman's magnet immovable as well.
It will be interesting in a few years when he becomes FA eligible. He's gonna want a boatload and AJ won't be held hostage by anyone as the article points out. With the amount of talent the Chargers have they will have to make some difficult decisions in the next few years.
 
I'm not an NFL GM or anything, but I might give some thought to making Shawne Merriman's magnet immovable as well.
It will be interesting in a few years when he becomes FA eligible. He's gonna want a boatload and AJ won't be held hostage by anyone as the article points out. With the amount of talent the Chargers have they will have to make some difficult decisions in the next few years.
I'm thinking they'll sign him to an extension before he ever hits free agency.
 
I'm not an NFL GM or anything, but I might give some thought to making Shawne Merriman's magnet immovable as well.
It will be interesting in a few years when he becomes FA eligible. He's gonna want a boatload and AJ won't be held hostage by anyone as the article points out. With the amount of talent the Chargers have they will have to make some difficult decisions in the next few years.
I'm thinking they'll sign him to an extension before he ever hits free agency.
I think they'd like to do that like they've done with most of their other top players but just some of the things I've read leads me to think there may be a showdown. Hope not. I forgot who his agent is???Condon?? but I read that they are known for getting their clients top $ which Chargers rarely pay.
 
I'm not an NFL GM or anything, but I might give some thought to making Shawne Merriman's magnet immovable as well.
It will be interesting in a few years when he becomes FA eligible. He's gonna want a boatload and AJ won't be held hostage by anyone as the article points out. With the amount of talent the Chargers have they will have to make some difficult decisions in the next few years.
I'm thinking they'll sign him to an extension before he ever hits free agency.
I think they'd like to do that like they've done with most of their other top players but just some of the things I've read leads me to think there may be a showdown. Hope not. I forgot who his agent is???Condon?? but I read that they are known for getting their clients top $ which Chargers rarely pay.
They paid for Gates, they paid for LaDainian, they paid for Rivers.If Merriman continues to be THE top Linebacker in the NFL, they'll get a deal done.
 
After reading that whole article it sounds to me like LT making statements out of his element. Since when is LT a GM? Not sure how much of this was from LT's mouth, or spun by the writer, but who is Tomlinson to question front office moves. Yeah your a great player, but what does he know about running the finances of a NFL team?

Like the article said, the Chargers with Rivers at QB went 14-2, there is no way you can go into a season and expect to do better than 14-2 in the regular season. Once the playoffs hit, every game matters, so yeah if the chargers go to play the pats 16 times maybe they go 14-2, but the one time they did they lost, and that happens. He should be happy they went 14-2 and got a first round bye and home field advantage.

 
After reading that whole article it sounds to me like LT making statements out of his element. Since when is LT a GM? Not sure how much of this was from LT's mouth, or spun by the writer, but who is Tomlinson to question front office moves. Yeah your a great player, but what does he know about running the finances of a NFL team? Like the article said, the Chargers with Rivers at QB went 14-2, there is no way you can go into a season and expect to do better than 14-2 in the regular season. Once the playoffs hit, every game matters, so yeah if the chargers go to play the pats 16 times maybe they go 14-2, but the one time they did they lost, and that happens. He should be happy they went 14-2 and got a first round bye and home field advantage.
AJ? Is that you?
 
Nobody's on the hook more than A.J. this year. This is what he wanted pretty much. His plan, his coaches, his players. Barring injury, however this season turns out is squarely on him (and by extension on Spanos who's backed him).

 
Nobody's on the hook more than A.J. this year. This is what he wanted pretty much. His plan, his coaches, his players. Barring injury, however this season turns out is squarely on him (and by extension on Spanos who's backed him).
So if they go 14-2 again and get a first round bye, but lose in the playoffs you think he is in the hot seat at the end of this year?-I dont see how you can ask much more than a 14-2 season and home field advantage. Yeah they did not win the superbowl, but 31 teams a year dont win it.
 
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Nobody's on the hook more than A.J. this year. This is what he wanted pretty much. His plan, his coaches, his players. Barring injury, however this season turns out is squarely on him (and by extension on Spanos who's backed him).
So if they go 14-2 again and get a first round bye, but lose in the playoffs you think he is in the hot seat at the end of this year?-I dont see how you can ask much more than a 14-2 season and home field advantage. Yeah they did not win the superbowl, but 31 teams a year dont win it.
No chance he is on the hot seat, none.
 
Nobody's on the hook more than A.J. this year. This is what he wanted pretty much. His plan, his coaches, his players. Barring injury, however this season turns out is squarely on him (and by extension on Spanos who's backed him).
So if they go 14-2 again and get a first round bye, but lose in the playoffs you think he is in the hot seat at the end of this year?-I dont see how you can ask much more than a 14-2 season and home field advantage. Yeah they did not win the superbowl, but 31 teams a year dont win it.
No chance he is on the hot seat, none.
My point wasn't that he'd be on the hot seat, I doubt he would be. My point was that he (and by extension Spanos) would be the one to blame almost entirely at that point. No more Cam to blame things on, no more Marty to blame things on, no more Donnie Edwards to kick around. These are his guys, this is his team, no more excuses. If Norv indeed sucks it again as HC, that's A.J.'s bad for bringing him in despite Norv's poor track record, etc.
 
I'm not an NFL GM or anything, but I might give some thought to making Shawne Merriman's magnet immovable as well.
It will be interesting in a few years when he becomes FA eligible. He's gonna want a boatload and AJ won't be held hostage by anyone as the article points out. With the amount of talent the Chargers have they will have to make some difficult decisions in the next few years.
I'm thinking they'll sign him to an extension before he ever hits free agency.
I think they'd like to do that like they've done with most of their other top players but just some of the things I've read leads me to think there may be a showdown. Hope not. I forgot who his agent is???Condon?? but I read that they are known for getting their clients top $ which Chargers rarely pay.
They paid for Gates, they paid for LaDainian, they paid for Rivers.If Merriman continues to be THE top Linebacker in the NFL, they'll get a deal done.
By top you just mean most sacks right? You do not think he is the BEST linebacker in the NFL do you?

 
Just read in ESPN the Mag how upset LT was at AJ Smith for firing Marty et al. Hopefully LT has finally gotten some sense into his head that tough decisions have to be made to win a SB and Marty regime wasn't going to get it there. It's really too bad things didn't work out with Brees, but that's another tough call AJ made to get the Chargers where they are today.

 
Nobody's on the hook more than A.J. this year. This is what he wanted pretty much. His plan, his coaches, his players. Barring injury, however this season turns out is squarely on him (and by extension on Spanos who's backed him).
That's what I love about the guy - he's willing to put himself on the line to make the team great. I only moved to LA and became a Chargers fan in 2003 and what I've seen AJ do to the team in the past 5 years has been nothing short of miraculous. Yes, he's played hard ball with some guys but the ones who really deserved the money got it and generally before it came down to a holdout situation.
 
Okay, the jist of this article is that Cam held LT2 back which means our estimates are way low and he could generate OVER 3000 yds of production. It also means that whoever has him is going to be tough to beat.

 
LT is frustrated with a coaching staff and a team that imploded last year. He's tired of the mental breakdowns and the inability to adapt. That's perfectly understandable. I'm surprised more blame isn't put on Spanos who allowed things to escalate to the point they did. It also doesn't help that he is a bit of a cheapskate.

I don't think losing Cam was a big deal, Wade and Manusky were much bigger losses.

 
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After reading that whole article it sounds to me like LT making statements out of his element. Since when is LT a GM? Not sure how much of this was from LT's mouth, or spun by the writer, but who is Tomlinson to question front office moves. Yeah your a great player, but what does he know about running the finances of a NFL team? Like the article said, the Chargers with Rivers at QB went 14-2, there is no way you can go into a season and expect to do better than 14-2 in the regular season. Once the playoffs hit, every game matters, so yeah if the chargers go to play the pats 16 times maybe they go 14-2, but the one time they did they lost, and that happens. He should be happy they went 14-2 and got a first round bye and home field advantage.
No one is a robot. LT as much as any player in the NFL knows the Business. If he has concerns then voicing those concerns in a very balanced and heart felt way are his choice. Quite frankly who the #### are you to tell a proffessional football player that they have no right to question the front office, that would seem like a more legit question. I am not a Chargers Fan, but I always pull for the guy who works his ### off, LT dont do Dog Fighting, no reports of Drugs or hanging out or any of that BS. Worked his ### off to keep Marty, he has a right to speak his mind and question. Without LT the Chargers are a mid level team.I always think of folks that want everyone else to shutup as Punks. Play your fantasy football robot boy and do what your told. I dont expect any reply cause you'll comply with whatever your told.
As a fan of the NFL, who buys tickets to games and buys NFL merchandise I can have an opinion. Ladanian is more than entitled to his own opinion on how to handle things as well. He and I disagree and thats ok. I don't see why you lashed out at me because I have a personal opinion, thats part of being American, the right to have your opinion. Like you said, yes of course he has the right to speak his mind. We all have lots of rights, does not mean we should exercise all of them all the time, and thats my personal opinion.
 
Indiana fans I know don't like Cameron. Now this. We all know how his moves in MIA are being percieved by their fans.Big ?? regarding Cameron's abilities from all around.
Cam was a class act as an individual, but a terrible coach. People actually liked him, but Cam disappointed as a coach.
 
I'm not an NFL GM or anything, but I might give some thought to making Shawne Merriman's magnet immovable as well.
It will be interesting in a few years when he becomes FA eligible. He's gonna want a boatload and AJ won't be held hostage by anyone as the article points out. With the amount of talent the Chargers have they will have to make some difficult decisions in the next few years.
I'm thinking they'll sign him to an extension before he ever hits free agency.
I think they'd like to do that like they've done with most of their other top players but just some of the things I've read leads me to think there may be a showdown. Hope not. I forgot who his agent is???Condon?? but I read that they are known for getting their clients top $ which Chargers rarely pay.
They paid for Gates, they paid for LaDainian, they paid for Rivers.If Merriman continues to be THE top Linebacker in the NFL, they'll get a deal done.
Don't forget Dielman.
 
I'm not an NFL GM or anything, but I might give some thought to making Shawne Merriman's magnet immovable as well.
It will be interesting in a few years when he becomes FA eligible. He's gonna want a boatload and AJ won't be held hostage by anyone as the article points out. With the amount of talent the Chargers have they will have to make some difficult decisions in the next few years.
I'm thinking they'll sign him to an extension before he ever hits free agency.
I think they'd like to do that like they've done with most of their other top players but just some of the things I've read leads me to think there may be a showdown. Hope not. I forgot who his agent is???Condon?? but I read that they are known for getting their clients top $ which Chargers rarely pay.
They paid for Gates, they paid for LaDainian, they paid for Rivers.If Merriman continues to be THE top Linebacker in the NFL, they'll get a deal done.
Don't forget Dielman.
They paid him $10 mill less than Seattle offered him.
 
This really confirms what we are seeing in Miami now that he is HC. Cam is stubborn and has his own ideas...like having a starting RB return KR. Maybe if he had been HC in SD he would have made LT do it? I thought he would be good for Brown, but I am wondering if he didn't in fact hold LT back and won't be bad for Brown.

 
This really confirms what we are seeing in Miami now that he is HC. Cam is stubborn and has his own ideas...like having a starting RB return KR. Maybe if he had been HC in SD he would have made LT do it? I thought he would be good for Brown, but I am wondering if he didn't in fact hold LT back and won't be bad for Brown.
LT doesn't need motivation, Brown does.
 
Good read. Thanks for posting that, B-Deep.

I wish reporters could get the basic facts straight regarding the Gates situation, though.

When Gates got into a contract dispute, in 2005, Smith gave him an ultimatum: End his holdout before Aug. 20 or sit out the opener. Gates arrived one day late and on Aug. 23 agreed to the six-year, $24 million deal Smith offered. With Week 1 days away, the GM could have let Gates off the hook. Instead, he put him on the roster exempt list. Gates watched in street clothes as San Diego lost to Dallas 28-24, the game ending on four incomplete red zone passes that the gifted tight end might have caught. Afterward, Smith said he didn't "regret anything."
The bolded sentences are just flat wrong, and it's easy to check on for any reporter who wants to understand the rule. Gates was placed on the roster exempt list before he reported (which is very likely why he reported), and there was no way to take him off until after the first game. Gates's own agent didn't understand the rule, either, and publicly said that the Chargers could allow him to play if they'd wanted. Smith said that it would be "amazing" if Gates could play, but the Chargers' attorneys said that's not how it worked. The Chargers double-checked with the league just to be sure, and the league gave the answer everyone already knew: Gates's agent was wrong, and there was nothing the Chargers could do to get him on the field against the Cowboys.
Yep...this is indeed the way that Gates deal actually went down. Guy shoulda done his homework. Nice catch Maurile.
 
I'm not an NFL GM or anything, but I might give some thought to making Shawne Merriman's magnet immovable as well.
It will be interesting in a few years when he becomes FA eligible. He's gonna want a boatload and AJ won't be held hostage by anyone as the article points out. With the amount of talent the Chargers have they will have to make some difficult decisions in the next few years.
I'm thinking they'll sign him to an extension before he ever hits free agency.
I think they'd like to do that like they've done with most of their other top players but just some of the things I've read leads me to think there may be a showdown. Hope not. I forgot who his agent is???Condon?? but I read that they are known for getting their clients top $ which Chargers rarely pay.
They paid for Gates, they paid for LaDainian, they paid for Rivers.If Merriman continues to be THE top Linebacker in the NFL, they'll get a deal done.
Don't forget Dielman.
They paid him $10 mill less than Seattle offered him.
They still ponied up big bucks for him.
 
The Patriots could not stop Tomlinson, and Rivers was not playing well, yet the Chargers kept calling passing plays in the 4th quarter of that playoff game last January. I sat there watching in disbelief.

 

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