Lance Ball (1 Viewer)

[shadyridr]

is he supposed to get all goal line and third down looks? maybe a sneaky desperation play vs a horrible kc team?

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

I dunno I've been thinking about it as well - he's not very talented though - word on the street is they want to run the ball. It is a John Fox offence..............

 

[moleculo]

Ball = special teamer and spell RB. I really doubt his role expands this week.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

I dunno I've been thinking about it as well - he's not very talented though - word on the street is they want to run the ball. It is a John Fox offence..............

Its a peyton manning offense with a dash of john fox........peyton is on pace to either finish with his best or 2nd best stats in every major category of his illustrious career. The most telling is he's on pace for the 2nd most attempts. John fox is there to make the run game more productive and help the defense.Lance ball has a legit shot to steal valuable snaps........we all remember damnt Donald and what became of his playing time

 

[The Squeaky Wheel]

Ball is going to surprise alot of people this week. Ball is going to split time with Hillman. Ball is much too small and inexperienced to be an every down back. Ball will be in on all 3rd downs and passing downs, plus a mix otherwise.

In PPR, Ball is a mid/low end RB2 or a solid flex this week.

 

[flooredyas]

Ball is going to surprise alot of people this week. Ball is going to split time with Hillman. Ball is much too small and inexperienced to be an every down back. Ball will be in on all 3rd downs and passing downs, plus a mix otherwise. In PPR, Ball is a mid/low end RB2 or a solid flex this week.

An owner in my league definately agrees. He nabbed Hillman off waivers, then dropped him for Ball an hour ago.

 

[dwashington]

Ball is going to surprise alot of people this week. Ball is going to split time with Hillman. Ball is much too small and inexperienced to be an every down back. Ball will be in on all 3rd downs and passing downs, plus a mix otherwise.

In PPR, Ball is a mid/low end RB2 or a solid flex this week.

I'm assuming you mean Hillman is much too small and inexperience to be an every down back?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

It was painful but I went with lanced ball.

 

[The Squeaky Wheel]

Ball is going to surprise alot of people this week. Ball is going to split time with Hillman. Ball is much too small and inexperienced to be an every down back. Ball will be in on all 3rd downs and passing downs, plus a mix otherwise.

In PPR, Ball is a mid/low end RB2 or a solid flex this week.

I'm assuming you mean Hillman is much too small and inexperience to be an every down back?

Yes. Sorry, Hillman is much smaller and more suited as a change of pace of committe style back. Usually these type of backs are used as 3rd down or passing situations but Ball is better in pass protections. I think they split time and Ball is an OK RB2 in PPR.

 

[Buffaloes]

Ball is going to surprise alot of people this week. Ball is going to split time with Hillman. Ball is much too small and inexperienced to be an every down back. Ball will be in on all 3rd downs and passing downs, plus a mix otherwise.

In PPR, Ball is a mid/low end RB2 or a solid flex this week.

I don't really agree with this post (Ball will probably be in the mix, but not to the degree your post intimates. Moreno is a better all-around RB, imo), but the bolded is way off, imo. Ball isn't undersized.ETA: nevermind, I see you meant Hillman. Still don't see Ball getting a lot of meaningful carries (or doing much of anything with those carries) unless Denver just boat races KC.

 

[Boone22]

Ball is going to surprise alot of people this week. Ball is going to split time with Hillman. Ball is much too small and inexperienced to be an every down back. Ball will be in on all 3rd downs and passing downs, plus a mix otherwise.

In PPR, Ball is a mid/low end RB2 or a solid flex this week.

I'm assuming you mean Hillman is much too small and inexperience to be an every down back?

Yes. Sorry, Hillman is much smaller and more suited as a change of pace of committe style back. Usually these type of backs are used as 3rd down or passing situations but Ball is better in pass protections. I think they split time and Ball is an OK RB2 in PPR.

He's the same size as the following RBs;LeSean McCoy

Chris Johnson

CJ Spiller

Reggie Bush

Jamal Charles

If he performs like these guys, I'm buying.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Ball is going to surprise alot of people this week. Ball is going to split time with Hillman. Ball is much too small and inexperienced to be an every down back. Ball will be in on all 3rd downs and passing downs, plus a mix otherwise.

In PPR, Ball is a mid/low end RB2 or a solid flex this week.

I'm assuming you mean Hillman is much too small and inexperience to be an every down back?

Yes. Sorry, Hillman is much smaller and more suited as a change of pace of committe style back. Usually these type of backs are used as 3rd down or passing situations but Ball is better in pass protections. I think they split time and Ball is an OK RB2 in PPR.

He's the same size as the following RBs;LeSean McCoy

Chris Johnson

CJ Spiller

Reggie Bush

Jamal Charles

If he performs like these guys, I'm buying.

Holy misinformation, Batman!For the record, every one of the 5 RBs you listed are 2"-4" taller than Hillman, and all but CJ weigh more (many by 12-15 pounds).

Hillman has a slight frame. Lots of successful running backs are short, compact fire hydrants. Hillman is short AND small.

 

[Boone22]

Ball is going to surprise alot of people this week. Ball is going to split time with Hillman. Ball is much too small and inexperienced to be an every down back. Ball will be in on all 3rd downs and passing downs, plus a mix otherwise.

In PPR, Ball is a mid/low end RB2 or a solid flex this week.

I'm assuming you mean Hillman is much too small and inexperience to be an every down back?

Yes. Sorry, Hillman is much smaller and more suited as a change of pace of committe style back. Usually these type of backs are used as 3rd down or passing situations but Ball is better in pass protections. I think they split time and Ball is an OK RB2 in PPR.

He's the same size as the following RBs;LeSean McCoy

Chris Johnson

CJ Spiller

Reggie Bush

Jamal Charles

If he performs like these guys, I'm buying.

Holy misinformation, Batman!For the record, every one of the 5 RBs you listed are 2"-4" taller than Hillman, and all but CJ weigh more (many by 12-15 pounds).

Hillman has a slight frame. Lots of successful running backs are short, compact fire hydrants. Hillman is short AND small.

Not sure where you are getting your numbers but I checked both NFL.com and Rotoworld. Hillman is listed at 5'9" and 200 lbs.Here are the numbers I got (NFL.com);

LeSean McCoy 5'11" 208lbs

Chris Johnson 5'11" 191lbs

CJ Spiller 5' 11", 200lbs

Reggie Bush 6', 203lbs

Jamal Charles 5'11" 199lbs

So I'll give you McCoy, he's significantly heavier (8lbs). ALL the other guys are within 3 lbs of Hillman. Does height REALLY matter? If anything, he's shorter and still 200lbs which makes him stockier than guys like Bush at 6ft and 203 so I wouldn't exactly call his frame "slight". Hillman is listed at 5'9". That's not short for a RB. Prototypical RB size is around 5'10". Granted a prototypical RB is usually around 220 but I just gave you 4 examples of successful RBs who play around 200lbs. That's not even counting other unproven guys like Daryl Richardson who's 5'10" and 196lbs. He's certainly not doing to shabby for St Louis.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Ball is going to surprise alot of people this week. Ball is going to split time with Hillman. Ball is much too small and inexperienced to be an every down back. Ball will be in on all 3rd downs and passing downs, plus a mix otherwise.

In PPR, Ball is a mid/low end RB2 or a solid flex this week.

I'm assuming you mean Hillman is much too small and inexperience to be an every down back?

Yes. Sorry, Hillman is much smaller and more suited as a change of pace of committe style back. Usually these type of backs are used as 3rd down or passing situations but Ball is better in pass protections. I think they split time and Ball is an OK RB2 in PPR.

He's the same size as the following RBs;LeSean McCoy

Chris Johnson

CJ Spiller

Reggie Bush

Jamal Charles

If he performs like these guys, I'm buying.

Holy misinformation, Batman!For the record, every one of the 5 RBs you listed are 2"-4" taller than Hillman, and all but CJ weigh more (many by 12-15 pounds).

Hillman has a slight frame. Lots of successful running backs are short, compact fire hydrants. Hillman is short AND small.

Not sure where you are getting your numbers but I checked both NFL.com and Rotoworld. Hillman is listed at 5'9" and 200 lbs.

He was 5'8-3/4" & 185 when he finished up @ SDSU. He worked over the winter to get to 196 for the combine. Preseason and the half dozen games I've seen him he looks closer to his college weight - whatever they are listing him at (I could link a half dozen sites that use his Ferbruary weight), he just look it.But I'm making too big of deal over a minor issue. Dude is fast & a playmaker. I do think he only needs 10-12 touches in that offense to be fantasy relevant.

ETA: stupid phone

 

[BobbyLayne]

I see you did some research. Yes, height is irrelevant for running backs. Leg drive and muscular frame are important, and I haven't seen that in Hillman. Barner (Oregon) is similar - very fast, small frame, but not a tough runner. Just one internet guy's opinion.

 

[JFS171]

Weight distribution is just as important as the weight itself. Hillman looks very thin in the lower half to me...