Late season emergences to keep an eye on for 2014 (1 Viewer)

[Englishteacher]

A lot of rookies and role players are emerging late this season. Whether you're in the playoffs or watching this one from home, there are some guys to keep an eye on now who won't have great 2013 total numbers but will play big roles next year. Who are some of the guys getting PT late season and making a splash that you will have on your watch list?

Christine Michael - Have this guy stashed in dynasty and hope he gets the lion's share of carries Sunday. I hope we can get some regular season work in versus a non-vanilla, 1st string defense to see how he plays.

Knile Davis - Charles will probably sit the majority of the game Sunday, so the 3rd round pick will get a game to showcase his skills.

Corradelle Patterson - If you look at his last 1/4 season splits, he's put up some decent numbers. He's a guy who could step into a full time role next year and do well. Though the Vikings are out of it, these last few games are giving him some valuable reps. A very raw but talented prospect, he had very little time to polish his skills in college.

Todman - A lot of people like this kid and MJD may not be in Jax next year.

Donald Brown - a retread vet that has outplayed Richardson. Could he cement a starting job next year?

2014 2nd and 3rd year WR and TE's... who's played well the last half of 2013 that will be in line for more targets in 2014?

Great dynasty stash or redraft discounts are available...

Who you got?

 

[Braktastic]

Andre Holmes

 

[GeeYouknit]

I'm still holding out hope for Mark Ingram and Brian Quick

 

[Englishteacher]

I'm still holding out hope for Mark Ingram and Brian Quick

Ingram has been good lately.

 

[Englishteacher]

Kirk Cousins gets an audition as well.

 

[King of the Jungle]

***Just realized I am not following the topic protocol with late season emergence's.....anyway here are some I am looking at....

QBs: Ryan Mallet, Brian Hoyer, Kirk Cousins

RBs: Dion Lewis, Latavius Murray

WRs: Danario Alexander, Santonio Holmes

 

[The Hank]

In Fantasy I'm interested in the progression of Da'Rick Rogers, Mike Glennon and Le'Veon Bell

As a Steelers fan I'm keeping an eye on the aforementioned Bell, as well as Markus Wheaton, Derek Moye and Shamarko Thomas and how they could step in next season for the 2014 Steelers

 

[Braktastic]

I forgot about Da'Rick Rogers, I would also add Edwin Baker.

 

[jacobo_moses]

What do you guys think of Chris Givens if they get another QB to compete with Bradford. ??? For 2014

 

[Shutout]

very small falsh but maybe jerrell jernigan.. Very cheap with maybe flex playability. Who knows? Never heard of Victor Cruz till they stuck him in the slot either.

 

[Englishteacher]

What do you guys think of Chris Givens if they get another QB to compete with Bradford. ??? For 2014

I'd rather they get a new Offensive Coordinator than a new QB. That offense had/has a lot of talent and they vastly under performed this year.

 

[Braktastic]

What do you guys think of Chris Givens if they get another QB to compete with Bradford. ??? For 2014

That reminds me... Stedman Bailey.

 

[Shutout]

What do you guys think of Chris Givens if they get another QB to compete with Bradford. ??? For 2014

That reminds me... Stedman Bailey.

Definitely. I guess in my mind I have been talking him up so long that I don't consider him a sneaky play but, yes, for sure.

 

[aggs]

Luke Willson, Da'Rick Rogers, Justin Hunter, Ryan Griffin and Andre Holmes as players who fit the "late-season emerges' label.

 

[Englishteacher]

I know he had the monster 4 TD game midseason but Marvin Jones has amassed 16 targets the last two weeks. He's a second year WR with 9 TD's and 46 catches. The giant game made him a WW darling but he could be under the radar in 2014. No doubt some of the rookie WR's will garner much more attention next year but he's already broken out in a "mini" way this year. I think I'd rather go with a guy that's shown something than a rookie 1st round WR in redraft. In addition, he might not be a bad dynasty guy.

 

[Otis]

I'm still holding out hope for Mark Ingram and Brian Quick

Ingram has been good lately.

Ingram is very high on my list.

I like Andre Holmes as well.

Da'Rick Rogers

Ertz maybe?

 

[Englishteacher]

I'm still holding out hope for Mark Ingram and Brian Quick

Ingram has been good lately.

Ingram is very high on my list.

I like Andre Holmes as well.

Da'Rick Rogers

Ertz maybe?

Ertz is a talent. Has put up a handful of big fantasy games. However, the Eagles offense has not been especially TE friendly fantasy wise all year. I wonder if that would change with continued development by Ertz?

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Riley Cooper is an interesting player. If he returns to Philly does he continue to improve or have an expanded role in that offense? He is only 26 and this is his first year as a starter. The Eagles will have to decide what to do with him at seasons end as he is a free agent. He has 800 yards and 8 td's on only 80 targets. If he stays in Philly and the targets were to come up even a little he could very well end up being a pretty nice play in fantasy next year.

 

[Englishteacher]

Riley Cooper is an interesting player. If he returns to Philly does he continue to improve or have an expanded role in that offense? He is only 26 and this is his first year as a starter. The Eagles will have to decide what to do with him at seasons end as he is a free agent. He has 800 yards and 8 td's on only 80 targets. If he stays in Philly and the targets were to come up even a little he could very well end up being a pretty nice play in fantasy next year.

The prospect of him playing another year with Foles, who's emerged, is interesting.

 

[Englishteacher]

A lot of these guys will be had late in redraft or in dynasty startups next year but vastly outperform their draft position. However, if you study the late season games 4 or 8 at a time and not the entire 16 game season, you'll see that these guys were beginning to get it done and be relevant.

Perhaps the biggest contributor on this list in 2014 that will be overlooked by half your league is Patterson. He's a Top 10 WR the last three weeks in standard scoring. Of course, he's a rookie and his end of year stat line will not be impressive.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Riley Cooper is an interesting player. If he returns to Philly does he continue to improve or have an expanded role in that offense? He is only 26 and this is his first year as a starter. The Eagles will have to decide what to do with him at seasons end as he is a free agent. He has 800 yards and 8 td's on only 80 targets. If he stays in Philly and the targets were to come up even a little he could very well end up being a pretty nice play in fantasy next year.

The prospect of him playing another year with Foles, who's emerged, is interesting.

Yes, exactly. Foles did not take over the starting role until week 6. Cooper, with Vick was not very good. Foles only has 291 pass attempts on the season. Foles as a starter this year is averaging 29 pass attempts per game which would work out to 464 attempts on the year. I think 29 pass attempts per game is a pretty conservative projection heading into next year but even if that were the case and if Cooper was indeed back I would say his targets would come up and in turn lead to more opportunity and fantasy points.

 

[Dez]

"Christine Michael - Have this guy stashed in dynasty and hope he gets the lion's share of carries Sunday. I hope we can get some regular season work in versus a non-vanilla, 1st string defense to see how he plays."

Seattle is in a must win game so not understand why he will even play.

 

[Englishteacher]

Riley Cooper is an interesting player. If he returns to Philly does he continue to improve or have an expanded role in that offense? He is only 26 and this is his first year as a starter. The Eagles will have to decide what to do with him at seasons end as he is a free agent. He has 800 yards and 8 td's on only 80 targets. If he stays in Philly and the targets were to come up even a little he could very well end up being a pretty nice play in fantasy next year.

The prospect of him playing another year with Foles, who's emerged, is interesting.

Yes, exactly. Foles did not take over the starting role until week 6. Cooper, with Vick was not very good. Foles only has 291 pass attempts on the season. Foles as a starter this year is averaging 29 pass attempts per game which would work out to 464 attempts on the year. I think 29 pass attempts per game is a pretty conservative projection heading into next year but even if that were the case and if Cooper was indeed back I would say his targets would come up and in turn lead to more opportunity and fantasy points.

On the season, Philly ranks 25th in passing attempts per game. That's factoring IN Vick as the starting QB for several weeks and the offense not being as efficient then.

Philly runs a lot of plays but they are a run based team. It'd be a good discussion on projections next year in the passing game given that "Nicky Franchise" will steer the ship from Week 1. It will also be interesting to see if Foles is as good as he's played this year of if "it's the system." DC's will have more time to digest Kelly's tendencies but Foles will also have a great year under his belt and a training camp where he'll enter as the starter.

It will be interesting to see if Kelly will come off of his running proclivity if Foles is the real deal. However, you can't argue with success, the Eagles ARE in first place. Many people say Russell Wilson should pass more as good as he is but I think Pete Carroll is very comfortable having the NFC's best record.

 

[Englishteacher]

"Christine Michael - Have this guy stashed in dynasty and hope he gets the lion's share of carries Sunday. I hope we can get some regular season work in versus a non-vanilla, 1st string defense to see how he plays."

Seattle is in a must win game so not understand why he will even play.

You're right. Took a week off of football after being eliminated from the playoffs.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I could easily see Philly passing more next year, all kinds of upside still with Foles/DJax/Cooper.

 

[buck naked]

What do you guys think of Chris Givens if they get another QB to compete with Bradford. ??? For 2014

That reminds me... Stedman Bailey.

Don't forget the best player - Tavon Austin, who will be much improved next year.

That offense spreads it around too much.

 

[Englishteacher]

I could easily see Philly passing more next year, all kinds of upside still with Foles/DJax/Cooper.

Yeah, their 2013 ranking, 25th in passing attempts, is weighed down by the lack of efficiency under Vick where they didn't run as many total plays. It would be interesting to see the run/pass ratio under Vick versus Foles. That would shed more insight about Kelly's system, versatility, willingness to let his best players make plays, etc.

Again though, as good as Foles has been, it's not like Shady is any slouch running the football.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

I could easily see Philly passing more next year, all kinds of upside still with Foles/DJax/Cooper.

Kind of doubt it, given the following:A.) Kelly's history as a run first coach

B.) The Eagles are 2nd in the NFL in both scoring and yardage. If it ain't broke...

C.) McCoy is easily the team's best player, and the guy to feature moving forward.

D.) The most underutilized player? Bryce Brown, who is good enough to deserve a larger role without taking touches from Shady.

If anything, I'd guess in year 2+ of Chip Kelly the defense will improve and the team will actually run more.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I could easily see Philly passing more next year, all kinds of upside still with Foles/DJax/Cooper.

Yeah, their 2013 ranking, 25th in passing attempts, is weighed down by the lack of efficiency under Vick where they didn't run as many total plays. It would be interesting to see the run/pass ratio under Vick versus Foles. That would shed more insight about Kelly's system, versatility, willingness to let his best players make plays, etc.

Again though, as good as Foles has been, it's not like Shady is any slouch running the football.

I'd be willing to bet they won't be 25th in pass attempts in 2014.

 

[need2know]

Dont forget about maclin returning to phili. That will throw a wrench into coopers production for sure...

 

[aggs]

Dont forget about maclin returning to phili. That will throw a wrench into coopers production for sure...

Maclin's a UDFA and no guarantee to return. Cooper will be cheaper and had good chemistry with Foles.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Dont forget about maclin returning to phili. That will throw a wrench into coopers production for sure...

Good point, but could be another plus for the passing game as a whole.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Dont forget about maclin returning to phili. That will throw a wrench into coopers production for sure...

Maclin is a UFA and this free agent class is pretty lacking in marquee WRs. I'd be surprised if someone doesn't offer up more money than Philly thinks he's worth, assuming he can work out for teams at 100% or close to it. Decker and Nicks are the guys he'll be competing with to get overpaid.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

I could easily see Philly passing more next year, all kinds of upside still with Foles/DJax/Cooper.

Yeah, their 2013 ranking, 25th in passing attempts, is weighed down by the lack of efficiency under Vick where they didn't run as many total plays. It would be interesting to see the run/pass ratio under Vick versus Foles. That would shed more insight about Kelly's system, versatility, willingness to let his best players make plays, etc. Again though, as good as Foles has been, it's not like Shady is any slouch running the football.

I'd be willing to bet they won't be 25th in pass attempts in 2014.

I'd be willing to bet that the run / pass ratio doesn't shift towards more passing at all, or if anything, moves in the other direction. Pass attempts might go up regardless, if the offense as a whole improves in efficiency, but the Eagles will still be one of the most run heavy teams in the NFL.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I could easily see Philly passing more next year, all kinds of upside still with Foles/DJax/Cooper.

Yeah, their 2013 ranking, 25th in passing attempts, is weighed down by the lack of efficiency under Vick where they didn't run as many total plays. It would be interesting to see the run/pass ratio under Vick versus Foles. That would shed more insight about Kelly's system, versatility, willingness to let his best players make plays, etc. Again though, as good as Foles has been, it's not like Shady is any slouch running the football.

I'd be willing to bet they won't be 25th in pass attempts in 2014.

I'd be willing to bet that the run / pass ratio doesn't shift towards more passing at all, or if anything, moves in the other direction. Pass attempts might go up regardless, if the offense as a whole improves in efficiency, but the Eagles will still be one of the most run heavy teams in the NFL.

Could you be any more wishy-washy? I said 24th or better, you wanna bet big boy?

 

[Coeur de Lion]

I could easily see Philly passing more next year, all kinds of upside still with Foles/DJax/Cooper.

Yeah, their 2013 ranking, 25th in passing attempts, is weighed down by the lack of efficiency under Vick where they didn't run as many total plays. It would be interesting to see the run/pass ratio under Vick versus Foles. That would shed more insight about Kelly's system, versatility, willingness to let his best players make plays, etc. Again though, as good as Foles has been, it's not like Shady is any slouch running the football.

I'd be willing to bet they won't be 25th in pass attempts in 2014.

I'd be willing to bet that the run / pass ratio doesn't shift towards more passing at all, or if anything, moves in the other direction. Pass attempts might go up regardless, if the offense as a whole improves in efficiency, but the Eagles will still be one of the most run heavy teams in the NFL.

Could you be any more wishy-washy? I said 24th or better, you wanna bet big boy?

Not being wishy-washy at all man. You want action on Philedelphia rushing on over / under 49.2% of the total offensive plays then I'm your guy. It's a subtle difference, but a real one.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I could easily see Philly passing more next year, all kinds of upside still with Foles/DJax/Cooper.

Yeah, their 2013 ranking, 25th in passing attempts, is weighed down by the lack of efficiency under Vick where they didn't run as many total plays. It would be interesting to see the run/pass ratio under Vick versus Foles. That would shed more insight about Kelly's system, versatility, willingness to let his best players make plays, etc. Again though, as good as Foles has been, it's not like Shady is any slouch running the football.

I'd be willing to bet they won't be 25th in pass attempts in 2014.

I'd be willing to bet that the run / pass ratio doesn't shift towards more passing at all, or if anything, moves in the other direction. Pass attempts might go up regardless, if the offense as a whole improves in efficiency, but the Eagles will still be one of the most run heavy teams in the NFL.

Could you be any more wishy-washy? I said 24th or better, you wanna bet big boy?

Not being wishy-washy at all man. You want action on Philedelphia rushing on over / under 49.2% of the total offensive plays then I'm your guy. It's a subtle difference, but a real one.

You quoted my post. You don't get to change what I said. Figures you are too scared to bet me.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

I could easily see Philly passing more next year, all kinds of upside still with Foles/DJax/Cooper.

Yeah, their 2013 ranking, 25th in passing attempts, is weighed down by the lack of efficiency under Vick where they didn't run as many total plays. It would be interesting to see the run/pass ratio under Vick versus Foles. That would shed more insight about Kelly's system, versatility, willingness to let his best players make plays, etc. Again though, as good as Foles has been, it's not like Shady is any slouch running the football.

I'd be willing to bet they won't be 25th in pass attempts in 2014.

I'd be willing to bet that the run / pass ratio doesn't shift towards more passing at all, or if anything, moves in the other direction. Pass attempts might go up regardless, if the offense as a whole improves in efficiency, but the Eagles will still be one of the most run heavy teams in the NFL.

Could you be any more wishy-washy? I said 24th or better, you wanna bet big boy?

Not being wishy-washy at all man. You want action on Philedelphia rushing on over / under 49.2% of the total offensive plays then I'm your guy. It's a subtle difference, but a real one.

You quoted my post. You don't get to change what I said. Figures you are too scared to bet me.

Random Internet tough guy betting schtick was played out years ago, guy. Team EOY ranking is dependent on a lot of stuff that has nothing to do with the direction of the Eagles offense.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I could easily see Philly passing more next year, all kinds of upside still with Foles/DJax/Cooper.

Yeah, their 2013 ranking, 25th in passing attempts, is weighed down by the lack of efficiency under Vick where they didn't run as many total plays. It would be interesting to see the run/pass ratio under Vick versus Foles. That would shed more insight about Kelly's system, versatility, willingness to let his best players make plays, etc. Again though, as good as Foles has been, it's not like Shady is any slouch running the football.

I'd be willing to bet they won't be 25th in pass attempts in 2014.

I'd be willing to bet that the run / pass ratio doesn't shift towards more passing at all, or if anything, moves in the other direction. Pass attempts might go up regardless, if the offense as a whole improves in efficiency, but the Eagles will still be one of the most run heavy teams in the NFL.

Could you be any more wishy-washy? I said 24th or better, you wanna bet big boy?

Not being wishy-washy at all man. You want action on Philedelphia rushing on over / under 49.2% of the total offensive plays then I'm your guy. It's a subtle difference, but a real one.

You quoted my post. You don't get to change what I said. Figures you are too scared to bet me.

Random Internet tough guy betting schtick was played out years ago, guy. Team EOY ranking is dependent on a lot of stuff that has nothing to do with the direction of the Eagles offense.

I'll be back next year bumping this when Philly is +24 and I prove you wrong. Have a nice day mr.waffler.

 

[menobrown]

Dont forget about maclin returning to phili. That will throw a wrench into coopers production for sure...

Maclin is a UFA and this free agent class is pretty lacking in marquee WRs. I'd be surprised if someone doesn't offer up more money than Philly thinks he's worth, assuming he can work out for teams at 100% or close to it. Decker and Nicks are the guys he'll be competing with to get overpaid.

Yes and all year long I've thought there were two potential landing spots that made a lot of sense for Maclin.

One of those spots probably won't be as ideal as I once thought and that's the Jets. I saw that as a team in dire need of a proven WR and with Marty Morninwheg(sp?) as the OC so he'd be familiar with Maclin who in turn would feel comfortable in the offense.Jets still are in dire need of a WR so that makes them a potential landing spot but the Marty factor probably will be a moot point soon.

The other obvious one is the Chiefs. Need, Andy Ried and I think Maclin is from that general area so some connect the dots stuff that makes sense. It's possible that coming off an ACL will limit his long term contract goals and he's young enough he can play out a one year deal and still be in a position to get a big long term contract. If that happens I really think familiarity with an offense would be huge selling points to Maclin if he should opt for a one year deal.

 

[Bob Magaw]

What do you guys think of Chris Givens if they get another QB to compete with Bradford. ??? For 2014

That reminds me... Stedman Bailey.

Definitely. I guess in my mind I have been talking him up so long that I don't consider him a sneaky play but, yes, for sure.

he will start next year, runs the best routes and has the best hands on the roster, sneaky speed and RAC ability... do the math.

 

[mad sweeney]

A lot of rookies and role players are emerging late this season. Whether you're in the playoffs or watching this one from home, there are some guys to keep an eye on now who won't have great 2013 total numbers but will play big roles next year. Who are some of the guys getting PT late season and making a splash that you will have on your watch list?

Christine Michael - Have this guy stashed in dynasty and hope he gets the lion's share of carries Sunday. I hope we can get some regular season work in versus a non-vanilla, 1st string defense to see how he plays.

Knile Davis - Charles will probably sit the majority of the game Sunday, so the 3rd round pick will get a game to showcase his skills.

Corradelle Patterson - If you look at his last 1/4 season splits, he's put up some decent numbers. He's a guy who could step into a full time role next year and do well. Though the Vikings are out of it, these last few games are giving him some valuable reps. A very raw but talented prospect, he had very little time to polish his skills in college.

Todman - A lot of people like this kid and MJD may not be in Jax next year.

Donald Brown - a retread vet that has outplayed Richardson. Could he cement a starting job next year?

2014 2nd and 3rd year WR and TE's... who's played well the last half of 2013 that will be in line for more targets in 2014?

Great dynasty stash or redraft discounts are available...

Who you got?

What are you smoking? He'll be lucky to even be active, much less get on the field.

 

[zftcg]

Here's who I see as the prototypes for this thread:

• Arian Foster '09: Finished with a 19/97/1 and 20/119/2 in the last two games, came back the following year and led the league in rushing
• Frank Gore '05: Finished with 19/79, 10/68/2 and 25/108. Next year finished third in the league and put up 2,000 YFS.
• Willie Parker '04: 19/102 in Week 17, rushed for 1,200 the following year.
• Kahlil Bell '11: Just seeing if you were paying attention (and reminding you that sometimes it's fool's gold).

Common thread there is guys who got a chance to start late in the year, performed well but stayed under the radar, and then took over as RB1 heading into the following season. Only candidates I see this year are Baker, Ingram, Todman (if no MJD), Grimes (if Foster is still hurt and no Tate) and maybe Blount (if Ridley can't get out of the doghouse.) I wouldn't necessarily bet on any of those, but I will definitely be keeping tabs on them this week.

 

[Englishteacher]

Here's who I see as the prototypes for this thread:

• Arian Foster '09: Finished with a 19/97/1 and 20/119/2 in the last two games, came back the following year and led the league in rushing
• Frank Gore '05: Finished with 19/79, 10/68/2 and 25/108. Next year finished third in the league and put up 2,000 YFS.
• Willie Parker '04: 19/102 in Week 17, rushed for 1,200 the following year.
• Kahlil Bell '11: Just seeing if you were paying attention (and reminding you that sometimes it's fool's gold).

Common thread there is guys who got a chance to start late in the year, performed well but stayed under the radar, and then took over as RB1 heading into the following season. Only candidates I see this year are Baker, Ingram, Todman (if no MJD), Grimes (if Foster is still hurt and no Tate) and maybe Blount (if Ridley can't get out of the doghouse.) I wouldn't necessarily bet on any of those, but I will definitely be keeping tabs on them this week.

Great list.

 

[Tanner9919]

Here's who I see as the prototypes for this thread:

• Arian Foster '09: Finished with a 19/97/1 and 20/119/2 in the last two games, came back the following year and led the league in rushing
• Frank Gore '05: Finished with 19/79, 10/68/2 and 25/108. Next year finished third in the league and put up 2,000 YFS.
• Willie Parker '04: 19/102 in Week 17, rushed for 1,200 the following year.
• Kahlil Bell '11: Just seeing if you were paying attention (and reminding you that sometimes it's fool's gold).

Common thread there is guys who got a chance to start late in the year, performed well but stayed under the radar, and then took over as RB1 heading into the following season. Only candidates I see this year are Baker, Ingram, Todman (if no MJD), Grimes (if Foster is still hurt and no Tate) and maybe Blount (if Ridley can't get out of the doghouse.) I wouldn't necessarily bet on any of those, but I will definitely be keeping tabs on them this week.

Ahh, yes, Kahlil Bell..won a championship with him in 2011, he was hot as hell the final few weeks of the season.

here's another one for you,same year:

Jabar Gaffney, weeks 13-15.

averaged about 14 PPG during that span..

6-92-1

6-85

6-77-1

Donald Brown might've carved out a bigger role for himself for 2014..

Crabtree last 4 games, 16-255-1, 15.94 y/r.

I'll go the reverse with Frank Gore - first 8 games, 4.9 y/a, final 8 games, 3.6. that's a bad trend.

 

[Patoons]

I'll go the reverse with Frank Gore - first 8 games, 4.9 y/a, final 8 games, 3.6. that's a bad trend.

2014 = Lattimore-time

 

[Terpman22]

Edwin Baker, Shonn Greene, Legarrette Blounte

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

"Christine Michael - Have this guy stashed in dynasty and hope he gets the lion's share of carries Sunday. I hope we can get some regular season work in versus a non-vanilla, 1st string defense to see how he plays."

Seattle is in a must win game so not understand why he will even play.

he wont, the CM hype is still large around here. Doubt he even logs a carry

 

[JohnnyU]

Don't sleep on Travis Kelce TE KC, who was injured this year. He wasn't a late season emerging player, but he was rated higher than Ertz in most rankings at the start of the season.

 

[Terpman22]

Don't sleep on Travis Kelce TE KC, who was injured this year. He was rated higher than Ertz in most rankings.

While I think he is a decent bet, lets be clear: Microfracture surgery (although not as bad as most IIRC), and most rankings had Eifert/Ertz 1,2. I don't remember ever seeing Kelce ranked higher than 3. Anywhere, but that's beside the point. Fat Andy likes him.