Lawrence of Arabia (1 Viewer)

[Flying V]

The Good The Bad And The Ugly?Fistfull Of Dollars?For A Few Dollars More?The Dirty Dozen?

Since I don't enjoy older movies, I haven't even gotten around to seeing these. I may have to, however, as I'm running out of new movies to watch.

Monty Python And The Holy Grail?

There's two.

I'll take a shot at this:Ben HurThe StingButch C. and Sundance KidNorth By Northwest

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Ben HurThe StingButch C. and Sundance KidNorth By Northwest

Not seen.Snore.Snore. But some nice one-liners.Horrible ending. Okay otherwise. Eva Marie Saint is quite a dish though.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

Best film before 1960:

On The Waterfront.

Check it out.

 

[Flying V]

Ben HurThe StingButch C. and Sundance KidNorth By Northwest

Not seen.Snore.Snore. But some nice one-liners.Horrible ending. Okay otherwise. Eva Marie Saint is quite a dish though.

I think we may be polar opposites in our taste in film. I was thinking you might be an action movie type guy.What would be 3 of your top 10 in personal favorites? Besides Shawshank, of course.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Ben HurThe StingButch C. and Sundance KidNorth By Northwest

Not seen.Snore.Snore. But some nice one-liners.Horrible ending. Okay otherwise. Eva Marie Saint is quite a dish though.

I think we may be polar opposites in our taste in film. I was thinking you might be an action movie type guy.What would be 3 of your top 10 in personal favorites? Besides Shawshank, of course.

Tough call.My top 10 would include:Terminator 2Miller's CrossingStar Wars Original Trilogy (although I've seen them so many times I can't hardly watch them anymore)Raiders of the Lost ArkThe Matrix Trilogy (Yes. All three)The Abyss: Director's CutE.T. The Extra TerrestrialA Christmas StoryThat's 8. There are a lot of movies that I like a bunch that are all on the same "level" e.g. Die Hard, Glory, Gladiator, Braveheart, Vanilla Sky, Fight Club...Pretty shallow, I know.

 

[saintfool]

Pretty shallow, I know.

"bullitt" with steve mcqueen is a piece of work. you might dig it. all the talk is about the car chase but the rest of the film is solid too. paced pretty well. mcqueen is the epitome of cool.

 

[Flying V]

Ben HurThe StingButch C. and Sundance KidNorth By Northwest

Not seen.Snore.Snore. But some nice one-liners.Horrible ending. Okay otherwise. Eva Marie Saint is quite a dish though.

I think we may be polar opposites in our taste in film. I was thinking you might be an action movie type guy.What would be 3 of your top 10 in personal favorites? Besides Shawshank, of course.

Tough call.My top 10 would include:Terminator 2Miller's CrossingStar Wars Original Trilogy (although I've seen them so many times I can't hardly watch them anymore)Raiders of the Lost ArkThe Matrix Trilogy (Yes. All three)The Abyss: Director's CutE.T. The Extra TerrestrialA Christmas StoryThat's 8. There are a lot of movies that I like a bunch that are all on the same "level" e.g. Die Hard, Glory, Gladiator, Braveheart, Vanilla Sky, Fight Club...Pretty shallow, I know.

Okay, we're not polar opposites, but your criteria for what constitutes a great movie escapes me.Raiders is one of my all time favorites too.

 

[perry147]

Ben HurThe StingButch C. and Sundance KidNorth By Northwest

Not seen.Snore.Snore. But some nice one-liners.Horrible ending. Okay otherwise. Eva Marie Saint is quite a dish though.

I think we may be polar opposites in our taste in film. I was thinking you might be an action movie type guy.What would be 3 of your top 10 in personal favorites? Besides Shawshank, of course.

Tough call.My top 10 would include:Terminator 2Miller's CrossingStar Wars Original Trilogy (although I've seen them so many times I can't hardly watch them anymore)Raiders of the Lost ArkThe Matrix Trilogy (Yes. All three)The Abyss: Director's CutE.T. The Extra TerrestrialA Christmas StoryThat's 8. There are a lot of movies that I like a bunch that are all on the same "level" e.g. Die Hard, Glory, Gladiator, Braveheart, Vanilla Sky, Fight Club...Pretty shallow, I know.

BlackHawk down?

 

[Flying V]

Pretty shallow, I know.

"bullitt" with steve mcqueen is a piece of work. you might dig it. all the talk is about the car chase but the rest of the film is solid too. paced pretty well. mcqueen is the epitome of cool.

And if you like that, you'll probably like "The Seven Ups".

 

[saintfool]

Pretty shallow, I know.

"bullitt" with steve mcqueen is a piece of work. you might dig it. all the talk is about the car chase but the rest of the film is solid too. paced pretty well. mcqueen is the epitome of cool.

And if you like that, you'll probably like "The Seven Ups".

yeah, i partially agree. it's more like "the french connection" than "bullitt". it feels more friedkin somehow.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

BlackHawk down?

I'd put that in the "just missed the top 10" category.It's actually coming on Blu-Ray sometime in the next week from Amazon. That should be

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Pretty shallow, I know.

"bullitt" with steve mcqueen is a piece of work. you might dig it. all the talk is about the car chase but the rest of the film is solid too. paced pretty well. mcqueen is the epitome of cool.

I didn't care much for The Great Escape...

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Oooh! I just thought of a pre-77 movie that I really like.

Cool Hand Luke.

I can eat 50.

 

[snitwitch]

Oooh! I just thought of a pre-77 movie that I really like.Cool Hand Luke.I can eat 50.

Chinatown?Taxi Driver?Anything from Hitchcock or Kurosawa?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Oooh! I just thought of a pre-77 movie that I really like.Cool Hand Luke.I can eat 50.

Chinatown? - Not seen.Taxi Driver? -

Anything from Hitchcock or Kurosawa? -

I like Hitch's TV show, but haven't seen anything other than Psycho, which was okay.Kurosawa's okay. I liked Ran okay.

 

[guru_007]

Oooh! I just thought of a pre-77 movie that I really like.Cool Hand Luke.I can eat 50.

Chinatown?Taxi Driver?Anything from Hitchcock or Kurosawa?

Why are you offering suggestions like this?Did you see the list of movies he enjoys? Obviously acting/directing and cinemetography are not very important, as he prefers effects and loud noises.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Did you see the list of movies he enjoys? Obviously acting/directing and cinemetography are not very important, as he prefers effects and loud noises.

Pretty much, yeah.Although there's some serious acting being done in both Miller's Crossing (John Turturro) and The Abyss (Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio and Ed Harris).

 

[Gr00vus]

The Good The Bad And The Ugly?

Fistfull Of Dollars?

For A Few Dollars More?

The Dirty Dozen?

Monty Python And The Holy Grail?

this is maybe the best of the clint roles. it is stylized, genre defining and often very funny. more often than not, i found it just really cool.

 

[snitwitch]

Did you see the list of movies he enjoys? Obviously acting/directing and cinemetography are not very important, as he prefers effects and loud noises.

Pretty much, yeah.Although there's some serious acting being done in both Miller's Crossing (John Turturro) and The Abyss (Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio and Ed Harris).

I liked the Abyss but have never seen Miller's Crossing. My bro-in-law lists the latter as one of his all-time faves. It's the Coen Bros directing, right?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I liked the Abyss but have never seen Miller's Crossing. My bro-in-law lists the latter as one of his all-time faves. It's the Coen Bros directing, right?

Yes. And it should be the very next movie you see.

 

[snitwitch]

The Good The Bad And The Ugly?

Fistfull Of Dollars?

For A Few Dollars More?

The Dirty Dozen?

Monty Python And The Holy Grail?

this is maybe the best of the clint roles. it is stylized, genre defining and often very funny. more often than not, i found it just really cool.

I am partial to Fistful of Dollars, and its source material, Kurosawa's Yojimbo.

 

[snitwitch]

I liked the Abyss but have never seen Miller's Crossing. My bro-in-law lists the latter as one of his all-time faves. It's the Coen Bros directing, right?

Yes. And it should be the very next movie you see.

I am going to have to check this out. It never occurs to me to rent it when I'm at the store.I like the Coen Bros, to me they are the Steely Dan of film.LOVED: Lebowski, Raising Arizona, Fargo, Hudsucker ProxyJUST OK: Blood Simple, Oh BrotherDIDN'T CARE FOR: Barton FinkHaven't seen anything else, including Miller's Crossing

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I liked the Abyss but have never seen Miller's Crossing. My bro-in-law lists the latter as one of his all-time faves. It's the Coen Bros directing, right?

Yes. And it should be the very next movie you see.

I am going to have to check this out. It never occurs to me to rent it when I'm at the store.I like the Coen Bros, to me they are the Steely Dan of film.LOVED: Lebowski, Raising Arizona, Fargo, Hudsucker ProxyJUST OK: Blood Simple, Oh BrotherDIDN'T CARE FOR: Barton FinkHaven't seen anything else, including Miller's Crossing

Miller's Crossing is their crown jewell.

 

[saintfool]

Pretty shallow, I know.

"bullitt" with steve mcqueen is a piece of work. you might dig it. all the talk is about the car chase but the rest of the film is solid too. paced pretty well. mcqueen is the epitome of cool.

I didn't care much for The Great Escape...

yeah, it's a pretty by-the-numbers hollywood flick of the time. lots of popular actors, threadbare plot...

 

[snitwitch]

Pretty shallow, I know.

"bullitt" with steve mcqueen is a piece of work. you might dig it. all the talk is about the car chase but the rest of the film is solid too. paced pretty well. mcqueen is the epitome of cool.

I didn't care much for The Great Escape...

yeah, it's a pretty by-the-numbers hollywood flick of the time. lots of popular actors, threadbare plot...

It's no Stalag 17, that's for sure.

 

[saintfool]

Pretty shallow, I know.

"bullitt" with steve mcqueen is a piece of work. you might dig it. all the talk is about the car chase but the rest of the film is solid too. paced pretty well. mcqueen is the epitome of cool.

I didn't care much for The Great Escape...

yeah, it's a pretty by-the-numbers hollywood flick of the time. lots of popular actors, threadbare plot...

It's no Stalag 17, that's for sure.

but a step clear step above "Hogan's Heroes"....

 

[snitwitch]

Pretty shallow, I know.

"bullitt" with steve mcqueen is a piece of work. you might dig it. all the talk is about the car chase but the rest of the film is solid too. paced pretty well. mcqueen is the epitome of cool.

I didn't care much for The Great Escape...

yeah, it's a pretty by-the-numbers hollywood flick of the time. lots of popular actors, threadbare plot...

It's no Stalag 17, that's for sure.

but a step clear step above "Hogan's Heroes"....

That's debatable

 

[Spike]

The Good The Bad And The Ugly?Fistfull Of Dollars?For A Few Dollars More?The Dirty Dozen?

Since I don't enjoy older movies, I haven't even gotten around to seeing these. I may have to, however, as I'm running out of new movies to watch.

Monty Python And The Holy Grail?

There's two.

Blazing Saddles?Young Frankenstein?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I thought you foreign policy 's out there might get a kick out of this map that T. E. Lawrence (aka Lawrence of Arabia) drew up showing his vision of the middle east:

If Lawrence had split the Middle EastI just returned to Japan from a delightful Christmas trip to Australia. The Lady Curzon and myself divided our time between the economic center of Sydney and the capital of Canberra, where we spent several hours lost in the enormous War Memorial Museum, which is probably the most comprehensive war museum I have ever visited.

The museum had several special exhibits, including a special on Lawrence of Arabia and his role during World War I. Included in this exhibit was a map that Lawrence, a trained cartographer, drafted with regard to his proposal for the division of the Middle East.

Lawrence’s plan was very different from what the British colonial authorities designated. Under Lawrence’s plan:
* + “Irak” was to be smaller, have King Abdullah in charge, include Kuwait, and be under direct British influence.
* + West of that was to be an Arab state under more indirect British influence.
* + The Armenians were to have their own state in the region of Cilicia, the Armenian state “given” to the Armenians by the Crusaders.
* + Palestine was to follow its general historical borders.
* + The French were to have an interest in what was to become Lebanon.
* + Perhaps most importantly, most of Arabia was to be independent, ruled by Prince Faisel (with whom he fought with in Arabia), and free of any European influence.

We can only wonder what would have happened if his plans had been followed.

http://cominganarchy.com/2008/01/02/if-lawrence-had-split-the-middle-east/

Here's a full size of the map:

http://cominganarchy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/lawrence-arabia-map.jpg

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

So on NPR this morning the call-in show "On Point" had its usual panel of ridiculously intellectual, studied, insightful and brilliant people and today they were talkinbg about Yemen and Saudi Arabia.

One of the panelists (a "Hegel," no not the SOD, a professor of some kind) stated quite pointedly that the Sauds are much more worried about developments in Yemen than ISIL/ISIS/IS in the Levant.

The main reason for this is that the lines drawn encompassing Saudi Arabia are just man-made, as many of you know, and bands of tribes stretch across the border with SA quite easily and unimpeded. Yemen apparently is also one of the most heavily armed areas in the world, meaning not just arms held by militias but also those in households and ordinary, everyday citizens.Apparently traditionally nearly everybody has a gun.

And the concern is that the instability in Yemen will spread to SA via this route, not from above and ISIL.

And it occurred to me then and there that is more or less the route that Lawrence took, though from above. Anyone who has seen the movies or read Seven Pillars knows that Aqaba and the Red Sea coast is the heart of Arabia.

Lawrence famously took Aqaba from the desert to the south, which was considered even (especially) by Arabs to be impossible.

http://www.filmclips.be/images/lawrence%20of%20Arabia-map.jpg

Since Aqaba could also be taken from the south, which once upon a time meant solely by sea and navy (so all the guns faced that way, towards the ocean), by doing this Lawrence also cut off Mecca and Medina from the Ottoman Turks, who put a good deal of their legitimacy on their holding and protecting those holy sites, essentially making them the keepers of islam.

Today that honor goes to the Saud family.

Indeed the Arab "revolution" (essentially a rogue British military operation dreamed up and pulled off by Lawrence himself) started in the south at Mecca and later he and King Feisel (Saud) led the Arab army north all the way to Damascus and Aleppo.

Now today, however, with Yemen falling, especially in the south and west, the belly of Arabia, and Mecca and Medina, can again be taken from the south.

The distance from Sanaa to Mecca is 637 miles, which in today's age of mechanized travel is essentially a day trip. If AQAP pulled this off then AQ (and their ilk) would indeed pull off hijacking the religion of islam, both figuratively and literally. Owning and controlling Mecca is a big, big deal.

 

[E Street Brat]

British Beatlemania

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

And oh yeah - this is probably one of my top-5 favorite movies of all time.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Oh Hey...

I've now seen On The Waterfront and Chinatown since this thread came up last.

Both are awesome.

Lawrence of Arabia is still not.