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I don't know about AP. Realistically, he only has 1 or 2 more years as an elite player left. I'd put Clay Matthews, DeMarcus Ware, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Jason Pierre-Paul, and Haloti Ngata off the top of my head.If the NFL threw every player, from every roster into a pool and drafted them, like a rookie draft, what non-QBs would be selected in the 1st round? To name a few, I would guessemarcus WareJoe ThomasJake LongCalvin JohnsonDarrelle RevisNdamukong SuhAdrian Peterson
While I do think Peterson has much more than 1-2 years, you very well could be right. He is the only RB I think that would be considered and he would no doubt go late in the round. Jason Pierre-Paul seems like a bigger reach to me, however. He has only started a handfull of games - right? He is not even the best player on his team.I don't know about AP. Realistically, he only has 1 or 2 more years as an elite player left. I'd put Clay Matthews, DeMarcus Ware, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Jason Pierre-Paul, and Haloti Ngata off the top of my head.If the NFL threw every player, from every roster into a pool and drafted them, like a rookie draft, what non-QBs would be selected in the 1st round? To name a few, I would guess
He starts now, and he's a freakish talent and he has 6.5 sacks through 5 games. I think some GM would fall in love with the combination of potential and production that he offers in a hypothetical redraft.While I do think Peterson has much more than 1-2 years, you very well could be right. He is the only RB I think that would be considered and he would no doubt go late in the round. Jason Pierre-Paul seems like a bigger reach to me, however. He has only started a handfull of games - right? He is not even the best player on his team.I don't know about AP. Realistically, he only has 1 or 2 more years as an elite player left. I'd put Clay Matthews, DeMarcus Ware, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Jason Pierre-Paul, and Haloti Ngata off the top of my head.If the NFL threw every player, from every roster into a pool and drafted them, like a rookie draft, what non-QBs would be selected in the 1st round? To name a few, I would guess
I would be very surprised if QBs didn't dominate the 1st round.
Wow. I remember the kid from the draft and thought he was a good talent. I had no idea his sack total was what it was.He starts now, and he's a freakish talent and he has 6.5 sacks through 5 games. I think some GM would fall in love with the combination of potential and production that he offers in a hypothetical redraft.While I do think Peterson has much more than 1-2 years, you very well could be right. He is the only RB I think that would be considered and he would no doubt go late in the round. Jason Pierre-Paul seems like a bigger reach to me, however. He has only started a handfull of games - right? He is not even the best player on his team.I don't know about AP. Realistically, he only has 1 or 2 more years as an elite player left. I'd put Clay Matthews, DeMarcus Ware, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Jason Pierre-Paul, and Haloti Ngata off the top of my head.If the NFL threw every player, from every roster into a pool and drafted them, like a rookie draft, what non-QBs would be selected in the 1st round? To name a few, I would guess
What do you mean by "dominate?" With 32 picks in the first round, how many do you think would be QBs (and as a follow-up, which QBs would they be?)
It's a tough call, because how much can a stud QB help your team if your O Line is getting trampled on every play?I'd guess 7 or 8 QBs max out of the first 32 picks. Zero WRs. Maybe a couple of RBs, but quite possibly zero there too.
I would guess 8-10. RodgersBradyBreesRiversStaffordRoethlisbergerAnd maybe even guys like:RyanNewtonBradford
Brady, Roeth, Flacco, Schaub, P. Manning, Rivers, E. Manning, Vick, Romo, Rodgers, Stafford, Cutler, Brees, Ryan, Freeman, Newton, Bradford.I think they would all go in a hypothetical first round.
Peyton Manning? Really? Not a chance.I think Rodgers would have best shot at being the first QB taken. He's as good as any of them, but he's 6 years younger than Brady. Brady is 34, but probably still has a shot at the first round, along with Brees (he's 32). I think Stafford would definitely be a first-rounder due to his youth. And there are enough believers out there that Cam Newton might go too.I've named 5, and with 2 or 3 more possibly sneaking in, I'm sticking with my 7 or 8 number. Bradford might be one of them.I just don't think guys like Flacco, Eli, Cutler or Ryan would be worth picking over a top lineman.
I'm not saying that they're better than good linemen, but in a hypothetical re-draft, GMs who don't get QBs like the ones I mentioned would be stuck with terrible QBs, which they would want to avoid at all costs.
I don't think there's a maybe about it.Those 3 would absolutely go in the 1st round.
I'd say unproven, not necessarily terrible. There are probably some teams out there that would happy starting over from square one with Matt Flynn or Jake Locker, taking them much later in the draft.
Yeah, Orakpo is a good call.I actually thought of DMC or CJ2K as first round possibilities because of their speed and playmaking upside.However, you can find really good RBs later in the draft, and a stud franchise RB isn't as valuable as a franchise QB, LT, or pass-rushing beast.The only one I would think would go in the 1st is AP, as he's a supreme talent who isn't as reliant on elite OL/QB play to succeed (kind of like Fitz...always gets his numbers no matter the QB).
I don't disagree in theory, but once you get past the first 5 young QBs, I just can't see a GM taking an old guy like Brees or Brady over Suh or other young elite franchise players. Depends on the GM I suppose, but I sure wouldn't take Brady for 3 years over Jake Long or Calvin Johnson for 10.
He's struggled this year but he still is one of the best young QBs in the game. I'd like to see what he can do with good players around him. I probably have him too high at #3, but I really like the kid.
lol...Pierre-Paul? The third-best DE on his team? Over arguably the best player in the NFL, AP? Give me a break.P.S. Any NFL GM would take Brian Orakpo over Pierre Paul in a heartbeat.'njherdfan said:I don't know about AP. Realistically, he only has 1 or 2 more years as an elite player left. I'd put Clay Matthews, DeMarcus Ware, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Jason Pierre-Paul, and Haloti Ngata off the top of my head.'Concept Coop said:If the NFL threw every player, from every roster into a pool and drafted them, like a rookie draft, what non-QBs would be selected in the 1st round? To name a few, I would guess
that everyone seems to think Sam Bradford would be taken over Tom Brady. Seriously, guys? If there was a draft today, ANY NFL GM would take Brady for 3-5 more years rather than a young QB who hasn't really shown much at all yet. At the VERY LEAST, you draft Brady and then draft a new QB a few years down the line rather than put all of your hopes on a kid that's only proven himself to be 'good' in a few games...not 'great' for years on end.we did this thread alreadyhttp://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=541470&pid=12118184&st=0entry12118184I also think it's
I'm going to assume you haven't seen JPP play this year. He has 7 sacks already and he's an absolute monster. And he's 22.lol...Pierre-Paul? The third-best DE on his team? Over arguably the best player in the NFL, AP? Give me a break.P.S. Any NFL GM would take Brian Orakpo over Pierre Paul in a heartbeat.'njherdfan said:I don't know about AP. Realistically, he only has 1 or 2 more years as an elite player left. I'd put Clay Matthews, DeMarcus Ware, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Jason Pierre-Paul, and Haloti Ngata off the top of my head.'Concept Coop said:If the NFL threw every player, from every roster into a pool and drafted them, like a rookie draft, what non-QBs would be selected in the 1st round? To name a few, I would guess
You watching any Giants games this year? It's not the other two that are drawing the double teams.
I have him as the #2 pick.
LMAO. Yep. Matter of preference whether you want a quarterback that is pretty much guaranteed to get your team into the playoffs for the next 5-6 years and probably a Super Bowl or two (speaking of Brady and Brees, not Flacco). Or you could go ahead and have Dwayne Bowe. Or an offensive guard. Or a tight end.Pose this question to 32 GMs and you'll get the same answer from all 32.Silly thread. First round would be QB dominated. Between 20 and 25 of them. Quarterbacks win titles.
Show me a GM who would take Travaris Jackson, Kyle Orton, Alex Smith, Kevin Kolb, and even Colt McCoy over Ware, Ngata, Calvin or Jake Long and I'll show you a GM who won't be successful. Quarterbacks only win titles if they have solid support. Below average QBs require great support.
I'm fairly certain the answer would be along the lines of "the players that would help us win".
This.
We do this every year in Madden. It is called a fantasy draft league. I got Willis in the first round, Greg Jennings and Darren McFadden in 2 and 3. My QB was Tebow, but I recently traded for Flacco from a guy who drafted both him and Rodgers by accident.31 other guys, everyone controls a team. Fun as heck!
We have done this a few tines....search in the FFA
